Open 616: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

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VOTE: not_mafia
L-1 claim or we lynch you

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VOTE: randomidget for calling L-1 when it's like L-4

1v1 me irl

[Randomnamechange]

VOTE: randomidget for calling L-1 when it's like L-4

1v1 me irl

Can I 1v1 you in real life?

Anytime <3
Fire and vedith are in all of my games as well.

VOTE: Random

P-edit: Thanks for signing your posts, Fire... Goddammit, just when I thought I was going to be playing a game without you...

P-Edit 2: I jinxed it, didn't I?

Just once can you not ASP?

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P-edit: Thanks for signing your posts, Fire... Goddammit, just when I thought I was going to be playing a game without you...

I am sorry, do you not enjoy playing with me?

I had no idea, I know some don't, because I take the game not as serious as a few. And I don't create as much content as others.

-Fire[/quote]
That basically summed me up
I like vedith as long as he isn't a dick to me.

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It was a joke...

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Just because I've played with them before. They are acting like they were then, read the spoiler.

Spoiler:

They were town

-Vedith

Same goes to you.

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Just so you know guys according to meta asp will tunnel me then flake day 2.
I am now joining any games with vedith and jester in.
I'm getting gut scum on lilith. Reminds me of New scum in newbies.

@Lillith - Talk to me about Random

I haven't seen you take a step over there for a while, and that is where your vote is.

-Vedith

Talk to me about lilith.

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It's only fun if they run

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I agree that diamond is probably town. Also, I suspect sharky, seems like scum caught doing something they shouldn't have.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: sharky

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Aside: Can we not call anyone noob or newbs in this, it really bugs me whenever someone calls someone else a newb especially when they are not, its shameless attempts at discrediting/superiority shit. We all have varying experiences of mafia, that doesn't make you more right than someone else if you have more.

-Fire

Not sure if this was directed towards me--but for the most part I was calling myself a noob.

Random, do you still have a gut read on me as newb scum? Why didn't you vote me/if you still think I'm scum, why are you not voting me now?

Hi random, mind answering my question?

I have a very very tentative scum read. Not enough to be worth acting on, but I will happily join your wagon if it you or most of the players.

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I have a very very tentative scum read. Not enough to be worth acting on, but I will happily join your wagon if it you or most of the players.

Just trying to figure you out. It seemed like you were scumreading me without bothering to vote me (i.e. trying to get other people to lynch me instead) which is a pretty strange/scummy thing to do.

Shitposting when a wagon builds on you isn't a towntell. It's just as easy for scum to freak out over a wagon. Actually I think it's more likely for scum to freak out, but it'll depend on the person whether they'd freak out more as scum or as town.

Jester, question for you: what made you change your mind about Diamond?

Tbh I should have voted yoy back then. That was a mistake on my part. As a rule I don't lynch people based off of vibes day 1.

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Everything Randomigit has done has seemed to be trying to run town off the rails. He/she hasn't said anything of value, and seems to cause chaos whenever they post.

Welcome to mafiascum. Try playing with me fb vedith and Ika all using our own accounts. It aint pretty.

Well it was Vedith who voted you and Fire who said you were town/unvoted you.

I'm not sure what I think of them. They're a little more serious than I was expecting from them.

Yeah, I agree with this.

Oh, I'm in ANOTHER game with fire? Huh... That explains it, actually.

Post 280 almost begs people to chase his stupid rabbit hole that he still hasn't addressed.
296 was ridiculous. "I don't lynch people off of vibes D1" WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU VOTE THEM OFF OF?

For posting/doing things which I can pinpoint as scummy.

For someone who says they're bad at scumhunting, I don't think you're doing badly at it.

I do think random meant gut reads. I was supposedly gut scumread for him.

Yup.
319/320
I should've voTed you for pressure/reaction. You remind me of newbscum in that you ask lots of questions without commiting to reads. That is less so now.

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I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

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I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

This I 100% disagree with, at this point if I were scum diamond would be the top people to bring to lylo with me.

Only if he is town. I doubt scum will wamt to risk bringing hom into LyLo. From fire and Ice experience, opposing scum and one toen alive normally leads to town win or scum teams drawing.

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I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

Why? Are you planning to kill him?

Might be.

I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.

This I 100% disagree with, at this point if I were scum diamond would be the top people to bring to lylo with me.

Only if he is town. I doubt scum will wamt to risk bringing hom into LyLo. From fire and Ice experience, opposing scum and one toen alive normally leads to town win or scum teams drawing.

Are you really suggesting that we don't lynch scum here? You are saying that you think the diamond is scum, and because of that he will be NKed so we should leave him alive???

I'm not convinced but there is enough of a chance he is scum won't risk it.

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Really ASP? Do you have to attack me every fucking game? That isn't even a case it is a disagreement. Scum don't want the other team to make it to LyLo. I don't think that he is definitely scum, but I think someone who is scum does.

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Probably duppin or itlepip. They were thr people who jumped off when it started to fall apart and did it in a way that would allow rhem to jump back on.

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Really ASP? Do you have to attack me every fucking game? That isn't even a case it is a disagreement. Scum don't want the other team to make it to LyLo. I don't think that he is definitely scum, but I think someone who is scum does.

If you want me to stop scum reading you, stop being scummy.

I think Diamond is actually town and we shouldn't lynch him. Random feels town currently too.

Explain the random read.

@Diamond: why should the scummy lurkers get away with it? And what's so scummy about the guys with 10-15 posts that doesn't apply to those with less? What makes Duppin scummy as of 388 that didn't make NM or myself or Apricity scummy?

I'm not being scummy. You are.

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Really ASP? Do you have to attack me every fucking game? That isn't even a case it is a disagreement. Scum don't want the other team to make it to LyLo. I don't think that he is definitely scum, but I think someone who is scum does.

If you want me to stop scum reading you, stop being scummy.

I think Diamond is actually town and we shouldn't lynch him. Random feels town currently too.

Explain the random read.

@Diamond: why should the scummy lurkers get away with it? And what's so scummy about the guys with 10-15 posts that doesn't apply to those with less? What makes Duppin scummy as of 388 that didn't make NM or myself or Apricity scummy?

I'm not being scummy. You are.

Fkin svge

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I'm scumreading you because you know this is my town meta and are still pushing me, probably because I haven't played with that many people in the game.

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You see, Jester.

That's

a shitty meta. He's trying to pass off

votes

by calling his behavior meta.

ASP attacks me by lying about my meta. I defended myself. How is that scummy? If he was scumreading for my actions then fair enough. But he specifically brought up my meta.

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This is the most apathetic game of all time. Can we just lynch someone?

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: diego
gogogogogo

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Bc they were being shady. Never let your townreads get away with shadiness.

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Oh yeah and if diego is scum Lilith probably is too

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The bit where you cropped sharky's quote was shady.

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Mainly for a reaction, however the timing of the push on me (not the push itself) was suspicious. It seems like she was worried her buddy was going to be flash wgonned and tried to set up a counter. I overexaggerated the extent of the sxumminess though.

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Oh yeah and if diego is scum Lilith probably is too

I would like to know why on this....

524

Mainly for a reaction, however the timing of the push on me (not the push itself) was suspicious. It seems like she was worried her buddy was going to be flash wgonned and tried to set up a counter. I overexaggerated the extent of the sxumminess though.

Given that I've been scumleaning you for the past few pages, and given that you jumped on a wagon for no reason that I could see, I decided to finally vote you instead of letting my vote sit on a wagon that has long since died.

The reason was fairly obvious.

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Just vote him, he's going to be the lynch.

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It's later.
If I am NKed remember the two scum teams dynamic in day phases.

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Really... This isn't going to work. Inb4 jester/diego scumteam.

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Hey Titus
VOTE: jester
That jump at the end of the day was shady af.

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It was shady because there was no way I was being lynched. All his vote did was add a chance that diego wouldn't be.

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I wasn't being lynched because there wasn't time. Not enough people were going to join before the deadline.
It is very beneficial for mafia to have a no lynch.

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I can't form a case on him because there is nothing to form cases based on. He has legitimately 0 content.

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Diego was getting lynched. Maybe not the next day, but at some point. This means if scum don't lynch him they get a free night phase.

And why did you vote Diego as soon as NM said he wanted to lynch Diego? Because I never got an answer to that question.

Because we needed a consensus and I correctly guessed enough people would be willing to lynch him.

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Are we really letting nm get away with this? This is horrifically bad play.

VOTE: DS

What page were you on when you did this?

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Hi Titus!

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The fact he still hasn't done anything.
Normally he adds a troll here or there as town (what I've seen anyway).

The random wagon is bad.

I'm not sure what the scum head of mine means with 604. I can see Diamond as NM partner, not much going on between them apart from NM defending him.
However, Diamonds comment isn't an alignment tell neither is it beneficial. He might as well just have said, well ASP died.
I'll get more into this game tomorrow but I'm going to bed now.

-Vedith

1. Why is the random wagon bad?

2.Opinion of Sharky?

The wagon on me is bad because this is my normal playstyle. Note that none of the players except ASP who had played with me before scumread me.

I think we should lynch nm if town can't come to a consensus.

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Hi Titus!

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The fact he still hasn't done anything.
Normally he adds a troll here or there as town (what I've seen anyway).

The random wagon is bad.

I'm not sure what the scum head of mine means with 604. I can see Diamond as NM partner, not much going on between them apart from NM defending him.
However, Diamonds comment isn't an alignment tell neither is it beneficial. He might as well just have said, well ASP died.
I'll get more into this game tomorrow but I'm going to bed now.

-Vedith

1. Why is the random wagon bad?

2.Opinion of Sharky?

The wagon on me is bad because this is my normal playstyle. Note that none of the players except ASP who had played with me before scumread me.

I think we should lynch nm if town can't come to a consensus.

Pretty sure we aren't too far from a consensus on your lynch. That self-meta defense was terrible btw.

It wasn't self-meta, I was pointing out that everyone was ignoring the meta other players had done on me.

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Ask titus or either MOHIS head if this is my normal play.

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"This is how I play when I'm town, ask the people I play with"
That isn't going to do it for me. I'm not saying I am unwilling to unvote random, but I need something about THIS GAME.

What have I done that is scummy.

Diego was getting lynched. Maybe not the next day, but at some point. This means if scum don't lynch him they get a free night phase.

And why did you vote Diego as soon as NM said he wanted to lynch Diego? Because I never got an answer to that question.

Because we needed a consensus and I correctly guessed enough people would be willing to lynch him.

Fine. Diego flipped town so presumably there's at least one scum on one of his wagons.

First wagon: Apricity, Jester, Not_Mafia
Second wagon: Not_mafia, random, snowman (duppin), Diamond, itle, wanderer, MOHIS
Who on these wagons do you think is scum?

Probably jester. It made sense for scum to vote me as well, and he did both. NM is also a candidate. DS is still a possibility but that doesn't have much to do with that wagon.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: not_mafia

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Your MOHIS scumread is so stupid. We had 6 hours left. Someoe needed to hammer otherwise we wouldn't have a lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: diamondsentinel

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Your MOHIS scumread is so stupid. We had 6 hours left. Someoe needed to hammer otherwise we wouldn't have a lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: diamondsentinel

How did that make it any different? Most of the time, D1 lynches are done near deadline. There isn't much reason to hammer halfway through the day phase.

Use you brain. I'm doing what I said I would, and you're bitching about it. Maybe you should find a new player to accost.

Scum aren't as likely to hammer because it draws attention to them. Generally scum will be around position 3/4

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We are getting to the point were ice scum is shooting for fire as they can't risk being NKed and losing the game. Fire will be shooting for Ice as they need to keep up the man advantage they have.

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I think it was a slip about titus having scum buddies. In which case we shouldn't lynch ds as the other scum team will do it.

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If DS flips scum, is the more likely buddy Snarky or I?

Most likely buddy is ASP. but out of you two snarky.

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GG, didn't think town had it

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Kingmaker isn't guaranteed, last time I played this me and the other scum agreed to draw and make town lose.