In post 14, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
Whats this?
I'm thick you know.
VOTE: TOWNIE247
Trying to deceive us with his user name.
In post 14, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
In post 38, KainTepes wrote:In post 27, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:VOTE: KainTepes
Perhaps you would like to explain why you're afraid? Most townies I know aren't this nervous in RVS.
Afraid wtf?? I am never afraid. I am here to find scum and we have a limited time to do it so let's move move move!!!
I don't like your OMGUS vote. And you called me scummy for being 'afraid' when I'm not afraid, so prepare to get dunked, scum!
In post 47, KainTepes wrote:I am VERY aggressive in TOS, and I will do so here too, because that is the only way to catch evil players off guard and lynch them quickly. Quietness is not good which is why I want people to move
In post 49, KainTepes wrote:Whatever!! At least I am trying to play the game while you are just trying to distract people and picking on new players ilyvmjty. being aggressive does NOT mean i am fake or bad
Also your sucking up to Titus is disgusting, happy to vote you
In post 59, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Yeah that was a bit of an overreaction, sorry.
Let's forget that and go here:
I don't like burnings reaction.
VOTE: Burning Crystal
This one is serious.
In post 194, KainTepes wrote:Not that post, Eagle said I am "fake as hell" which is hurtful...
I do not know if Eagle is scum or town but I think Anen is good, he has been helpful and pressuring people,,!
In post 204, KainTepes wrote:But I want to be AGGRESSIVE like all the strong players and catch scum like they can... am I not aggressive enough??
In post 213, KainTepes wrote:I dont like it because I am town, but if you all think I am a useless player then its ok lynch me...
In post 222, KainTepes wrote:The more I think of it the LESS it makes sense, it is just like the game in TOS where a person who was sheriff calimed Godfather (which is a bad role), and got lynched because everyone said "no I know you are not godfather because you are SHERIFF"??? But that is so dumb, because sheriff is actually a good role and godfather is a bad role, they just lynched him because they think he is fake, but in reality he is a good guy and the town lynched him even though they knew he was a good guy because that town was stupid, so dave is being the same,,,,
In post 219, Aneninen wrote:In post 209, davesaz wrote:I see a lot of posturing from KainTepes about being aggressive, and that's good, because evil players aren't aggressive, and that's bad, so he needs to be aggressive.
Looks like an act, which is scummy to me.
VOTE: KainTepes
Ghhhhhhhh, I missed this before.
This sounds like Davesaz is going after the "low hanging fruit".
In post 219, Aneninen wrote:In post 213, KainTepes wrote:I dont like it because I am town, but if you all think I am a useless player then its ok lynch me...
That's not how it works on MafiaScum.
Normally, scumread players are good lynches. Lynching someone because they're useless or annoying is not a good idea, because it rarely has to do anything with their alignment.Utility lynches, however, do exist, but that's a different story. (That happens in weird Setups or situations when even someone's town their mere existence is detrimental and/or their death gives so much information that the gain is bigger than the loss. But this is not a situation like that.)
In post 219, Aneninen wrote:In post 215, Kop wrote:And you wonder why I think this is all fake....
I don't think so.
By the way, Kop, you're so obv-town. ^_^ (For the others: I saw him as scum in another game a couple of weeks ago.)
In post 224, Persivul wrote:In post 209, davesaz wrote:I see a lot of posturing from KainTepes about being aggressive, and that's good, because evil players aren't aggressive, and that's bad, so he needs to be aggressive.
Looks like an act, which is scummy to me.
VOTE: KainTepes
In your experience do newbscum go out of their way to draw attention to themselves like that?
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Whatever. I don't want to deal with this atm. Maybe I'll get back to this game later, I'm still sick to my stomach over the way I was treated here. It may be acceptable to y'all, but that qualifies as an invasion of privacy in my book. I have no problem with what aneninen said, I do have a problem with the way he said it.
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:To pretend to understand me like that after playing that game the way he did.... And then defending him with that BS when the whole time you were agreeing with me- I hate the attacks made against me. Perhaps you guys are different from me and offended by different things, but that doesn't excuse attacking me for being offended by something like that- and I didn't ask much from him, just that he watchs his word choice. But instead of staying out of it you had to get into it. It isn't even really a game related topic and you defended him. My mind is still racing with why.
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I'm sorry I really don't want to play after that BS. I could sit here and take apart every piece of that pile of horse waste of an argument that was used against me but I doubt I could get through your dense skull with a jackhammer, so I'm not even going to try. I need more space for the time being and if you push me I will either claim or replace out.
Seriously, I think your actions by coming into to something that doesn't really affect you was drastically and horrifyingly inappropriate.
In post 93, Aneninen wrote:I remember Eagle from a recently finished game. Plenty of players wanted to lynch him because he'd had a kind of scummy attitude.
This attitude seems just as scummy, however, different to that one.
Either he's changed his gamestyle (I think he said so) or he's scum.
I don't know what to think.
Maybe he should be investigated if we have that one. Although, there may be a Godfather on the scum side.
In post 180, Aneninen wrote:In post 150, KainTepes wrote:What do you think about xtoxm?? He still needs to answer his question, he is taking too long,
Not much, so far.
In post 154, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Spam posting just gives scum a good place to hide and begs for a policy lynch.
The first part is very true.
Policy lynches, on the other hand, are never good.
In post 155, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Unless you'd like to explain what my attitude is and why my attitude is "scummy?"
If I knew, I'd point it out.
In YCBA many players thought you were scum, although I didn't think so, I put you somewhere in the wallspam-town section.
Now, your gameplay is different and if I hadn't met you before, I'd put you in the "bad-town" section.
But it's clear that your posts are different here and I don't know it's happening because you've changed your gamestyle or because you're scum.
In post 162, acryon wrote:In post 93, Aneninen wrote:
Maybe he should be investigated if we have that one. Although, there may be a Godfather on the scum side.
I just read this again and it reads so bad. It's such a nothing comment.
VOTE: Aneninen
And I'll be even more speculative later.
I'd explained my reasons for doing so in the sign-up thread, before the game started.
In post 163, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:My play style changes every game.
Okay, that's a kind of answer.
As for the later posts: what do you mean by "Aneninen shouldn't have said things he doesn't know"? I don't get it.
This?
In post 177, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:1. This is an ok statement: "eagle looked like he had a really scummy attitude to a lot of players that game." I won't dispute this, I actually agree
2. This is not an ok statement: "eagle's attitude was really scummy that game" this is not ok he doesn't know what's going on inside my head
Originally, I said this:
In post 93, Aneninen wrote:I remember Eagle from a recently finished game. Plenty of players wanted to lynch him because he'd had a kind of scummy attitude. This attitude seems just as scummy, however, different to that one. Either he's changed his gamestyle (I think he said so) or he's scum.
Also, see my post above about the topic.
You're making something out of nothing.
In post 178, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Someone please raptor him before I get back. This is a personal matter he's invaded and is pushing on and I swear if he still pushes this when I get back I will push back like he's pushing me: personally.
Was that for me?
If so, I still don't get it why do you think I offened you or something like that.
In post 261, Aneninen wrote:In post 244, Sunset Illusions wrote:2. I do think Eagle is not a good lynch D1. I think this is a noobtown mislynch in the waiting and I will not touch it. I ask the rest of you to do the same. Good choices would be Burning Crystal or Persivul. (More info on this coming).
When will the more info come?
In post 245, Xtoxm wrote:Current preferred lynches would be Smudger/Anen/Mad King. There are others I could compromise on, and others i'd be less enthusiastic to. I won't go into my town reads right now.
Where did those name come from?
In post 246, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
@aneninen. Not mad at you. I wasn't even that messed up until acryon got into it.
Let's just say I have emotional issues that I need to deal with and I apologize for them leaking into the thread. I try to stop myself when I recognize I'm blowing things that don't matter at all into mountains, it's just hard to take a break and calm down when you have... ...things... Like acryon jumping in on things and just riling people up more.
Then let's leave this story where it belongs to. In the past.
In post 253, KuroiXHF wrote:Not that this has anything to do with the game, but how do you (or anyone else) have a flu for a day?
Fzzzzzzzrt.
(1) It might have meant the worst day of flu.
(2) Some people can have flu quickly and dreadfully. It lasts for only a couple of days, 2 or so, but those days are horrible.
In post 253, KuroiXHF wrote:I'm actually in agreement. Some people look better than others, but all of them have a good poker reads. (There are obviously some that are quicker to emotion, but it's striking me more-so as newbish)
The question I have for you is that if you're not really into voting anyone, what's with your vote on Ameninen?
They may have left it there from RVS. Actually I left my vote there from RVS, because I'm another player who simply can't find too much useful content.
I mean, most of the things happening have been about a couple of players, whereas apart from those things... nothing.
In post 254, Almost50 wrote:OK. I'm all caught up. There are more irrelevant posts in this thread than there are actually relevant ones. If I disregard the posts that are irritating in an irrelevant-to-game way I'd say Persy is the one standing out as a slight scum lean.
However, I need to sort out RC first. I haven't had the pleasure of meeting Rasko before, so I would certainly appreciate it if you guys signed your posts for me to tell who's actually doing the post.
Why is it more urgent to sort RC out first than anyone else?
In post 256, Persivul wrote:You're putting us in a bad position here. I don't want to see someone get RL pissed off over this, but I've posted similar stuff in the past, and only when I was scum. It was partially true and partially strategic. When I'm town and I think I'm misunderstood or treated badly, I don't threaten to replace out, because I'm satisfied that my lynch is going to give town good info, and particularly on D1 when there's usually a mislynch anyway. All I see from you is concern about your personal survival. I don't see concern for town. Some people do get overly concerned with personal survival as town, but in general it's more often a scum trait, because scum have smaller teams and the loss of one has much greater impact than loss of a single town.
Erm... I can't explain it, why, but this is scum.
I often do such kind of appeasing posts or what-should-I-call-them, both as town as scum, and even if it can't be noticed (or at least, it has not been yet), I know my town-calm-down posts are different to my scum-calm-down posts.
I know it's weak but right now, better than nothing.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Persivul
In post 260, Persivul wrote:You're ruining this game. It's no fun if someone is actually upset about it IRL.
mod, please replace me
Shyt.
UNVOTE:
I simply can't imagine a scum replacing out in this very situation.
________
Frankly, everyone!
Can't we just play? Like in all the other games?
Pisskop deserves a better playlist than we are, including me.
And I f-cking don't care if you think that's my scum-appeasing post, actually it's not, but even my lynch would be more contribution to this game than everything has happened so far.
Actually Persivul was posting something similar, wasn't he? And he got a scumread from me.
Good.
I'm an idiot.
*hitting a tin bucket with a rusty hammer, which sounds terribly*
In post 326, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Is your scum read on them based on lurking/absence?
In post 329, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:That's true enough. I guess I could see someone replacing in without reading the game beforehand and realizing they were in over their heads or getting a role they didn't want, but I always read the thread beforehand because I only get town slots when I replace.
In post 292, Aneninen wrote:In post 264, Xtoxm wrote:My Anen read is based on not liking a handful of his comments combined with a healthy dose of meta. Things like voting and unvoting Pers in #261 i'm not really buying, just looks to me like he's trying to fake stream of consciousness. I don't have a scum meta on Anen but I do have a good amount of town, and his play here is very different to what I was expecting from town-Anen..So it follows that this is more likely to be his scum play. Certainly good enough for me to support for D1.
Your logic is wrong, but whatever.
Actually that vote/unvote was the result of my catching-up method. I saw Percivul's post which I found scummy and I saw him replacing outafterI hit the Preview and I added that part next.
Obviously, I know it's only my words but that's all I can tell.
This part above goes for everyone.
In post 277, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Like from here it looks like you're trying to push over a bunch of rocks that are already on their side. I.e. you're not doing much. I like you and acryon for town but I haven't seen you seem to try to get anywhere
In post 310, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Thoughts on players:
I like Titus, atm. Usually it puts me off when someone agrees with me/sees what I do because that never happens to me- I usually end up explaining forever and still get nowhere, but with Titus I think she's generally more likely to be town since she seems to look for similar things. In the first post of the game she shared my opinion of KT and THAT looks town on me. I don't like her oblivion pushes, however, but her push on kt reads sort of like her Klingon push in ycba. She won't be an easy read this game.
Acryon just reads weird to me and he seems emotionally detached and I don't like how he jumped on and pushed me like he was scum waiting to get into an emotional fight so someone could call tvt like Aphix did in the last game I played. He also addresses one of the most controversial players in the game ONCE and that is to link them to a page. He talks about them twice in defense.
KT reads fake to me still, but I could be wrong on him so I'll stick with that.
I don't like the post I saw out of townie but I really need more from him because that could just be style.
I don't remember what I saw in persivul earlier but I need to look through him and everyone else again to get a clearer read of them.
In post 334, acryon wrote:In post 330, Kop wrote:In post 326, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Is your scum read on them based on lurking/absence?
He quite specifically said that vote was to pressure them into hoping that he would come out and post.
I've done it before as scum, where I've delayed things by saying soon. It's one of those post words that you hope will appease the crowd and hope they forget about you.
Do you believe this is what he is doing? Your last sentence especially seems to imply so.
Oh also @EE, I just realized you said something about me being emotionally detached and that's just how I generally play the game so you shouldn't read it as either alignment.
In post 337, Kop wrote:VOTE: Sunset Illusions
It's been 1 day 18 hours. I think almost 2 days is way over board for a post coming soon.
Question one; This is a question asking for others to provide reads, if he has read the thread, does he not have any reads of his own?
Question two; What has given him this impression, I think this is trying to either veer away from that possible lynch to distance oneself, I would like to see this more info for a case on Burning crystal or the Persivul slot.
Question three; What kind of question is that, seriously? It'll be the same answer it is for everyone on here.
In post 353, davesaz wrote:Eight what time zone? .
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 21, Kop wrote:In post 14, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
Whats this?
I'm thick you know.
VOTE: TOWNIE247
Trying to deceive us with his user name.
Nothing much to go off here but as scum voting townie is a kind of psychological thing that I'm not going to go into because this post is going to be long enough already
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 67, Kop wrote:In post 47, KainTepes wrote:I am VERY aggressive in TOS, and I will do so here too, because that is the only way to catch evil players off guard and lynch them quickly. Quietness is not good which is why I want people to move
In post 49, KainTepes wrote:Whatever!! At least I am trying to play the game while you are just trying to distract people and picking on new players ilyvmjty. being aggressive does NOT mean i am fake or bad
Also your sucking up to Titus is disgusting, happy to vote you
These two posts do swing in one of two ways.
1). These are townie posts. Because scum wouldn't really want the game to progress as quickly as he points out.
2). These are fake town posts in hoping to make out he has town intentions without any real hunting of any sort.
And stating that your happy to vote, why don't you vote for him? What's holding you back from doing so?
In post 59, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Yeah that was a bit of an overreaction, sorry.
Let's forget that and go here:
I don't like burnings reaction.
VOTE: Burning Crystal
This one is serious.
You simply can't suspect someone for over reacting, then do it yourself and say we should forget about it. That's a contradiction, in my opinion.
VOTE: Extrapolated Eagle
Sets up KT for vote and then votes elsewhere. Feels more like trying to frame kt as town imo. :/
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 68, Kop wrote:
Two naked votes.
Are you kind enough to elaborate on these two, I know it's half and half in RVS, but it would be nice to see some justification to these votes, instead of trying to appear to be doing something.
Actually voting someone IS doing something, whereas saying things and not voting is something you do a lot of.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 200, Kop wrote:So what post has made Eagle get the hump? I don't think I've seen any personal attack towards Eagle that has made him react the way he has done. It's baffling that someone who claimed before about over reacting, as gone beyond an over reaction, to a point where he's likely to head this game into a personal confrontation. And I think if he's going to make it personal, it's going beyond the game, imo. Something strikes me that this is all sorts of fake where it is going to cause distractions, will scum do this? Possibly.
I don't know any of your game styles that you have portrayed in the past, so I can only go off what is in the thread. I like many others won't know what is going through your mind, all we can go off, is what you are putting in this thread. And for me, it's far too aggressive, along with contradictions.
I'm being too... Aggressive?
Wut? Also coming from the guy defending kt atm.
Also name two places where I contradict myself.
In post 165, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:listen here.
You.do.not.understand.my.attitude.because.if.you.did.you.would.always.know.with.100.percent.certainty.what.my.alignment.was.
You know what you PERCEIVE my attitude to be but do not dare to ever claim to know what my attitude is, bud.
In post 173, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I'm not doing this. I'll discuss this with y'all when I get back. Go back and reread everything y'all are posting, perhaps if you knew what you were arguing you'd figure out that y'all are contradicting yourselves left and right just to get a chance to disagree with me. What you are arguing (for the most part) isn't even game relevant and honestly after reading your posts it looks like you're attacking me because you feel like attacking me and you're not even paying attention to what you're saying. So. Go back. Figure out where you messed up and I won't have to take you apart when I get back. This isn't really game relevant but it's a point I feel really strongly about and if you don't back off I will fight this.
In post 178, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Someone please raptor him before I get back. This is a personal matter he's invaded and is pushing on and I swear if he still pushes this when I get back I will push back like he's pushing me: personally.
In post 188, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Yes you offended me but screw it it doesn't matter. Apparently I'm not allowed to have feelings this game. I'm not going on vacation angry, but I would like to know what on earth everyone thinks I'm trying to distract from. The fact that a lot of people thought I was town when I was scum?
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Someone explain the reasons for scum reading me?
Whatever. I don't want to deal with this atm. Maybe I'll get back to this game later, I'm still sick to my stomach over the way I was treated here. It may be acceptable to y'all, but that qualifies as an invasion of privacy in my book. I have no problem with what aneninen said, I do have a problem with the way he said it. To pretend to understand me like that after playing that game the way he did.... And then defending him with that BS when the whole time you were agreeing with me- I hate the attacks made against me. Perhaps you guys are different from me and offended by different things, but that doesn't excuse attacking me for being offended by something like that- and I didn't ask much from him, just that he watchs his word choice. But instead of staying out of it you had to get into it. It isn't even really a game related topic and you defended him. My mind is still racing with why.
I'm sorry I really don't want to play after that BS. I could sit here and take apart every piece of that pile of horse waste of an argument that was used against me but I doubt I could get through your dense skull with a jackhammer, so I'm not even going to try. I need more space for the time being and if you push me I will either claim or replace out.
Seriously, I think your actions by coming into to something that doesn't really affect you was drastically and horrifyingly inappropriate.
In post 48, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Titus seems like town based on reaction to Kaintepes.
@KT you sound fake to death.
Day is two weeks, btw.
In post 50, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I didn't say you were aggressive. I didn't say you were bad.
I am not distracting anyone, what would I distract from? If anything you draw attention from anything else happening, so if there was something distracting, you would be doing it.
I did not know you were new but I certainly hope that you aren't planning to continue to use that as an excuse in any game outside a newbie game.
I am not sucking up to Titus, I was responding to Aneninens post about her alignment.
In post 53, Burning Crystal wrote:In post 49, KainTepes wrote:Whatever!!At least I am trying to play the game while you are just trying to distract people and picking on new players ilyvmjty.being aggressivedoes NOT mean i am fake or bad
Also your sucking up to Titus is disgusting,happy to vote you
Fake, fake, fake. He's not distracting anybody, but you are over-reacting. I would vote you but I'm pretty sure we already are.
In post 54, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Overreacting to what? What are you talking about? Bringing up something that seems interesting and placing a vote in RVS? What have you been smoking?
In post 55, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Actually if you'd like to talk about overreacting, hard defending someone who hasn't yet even been accused of being scum nor had anything more than a semi-serious vote on them fits the bill quite nicely, don't you think?
How about you explain attacking someone for pushing their reads?
In post 57, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Just going to say that based on what we have here if I had a gun to my head I'd shoot KT and BC, and the former mostly because of the reaction of the latter. That's a really scummy, post, IMO.
In post 58, KuroiXHF wrote:See, your reaction to being called over reacting is over reacting. You made four posts that appeared very condescending.
In post 59, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Yeah that was a bit of an overreaction, sorry.
Let's forget that and go here:
I don't like burnings reaction.
VOTE: Burning Crystal
This one is serious.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 202, Kop wrote:In post 194, KainTepes wrote:Not that post, Eagle said I am "fake as hell" which is hurtful...
I do not know if Eagle is scum or town but I think Anen is good, he has been helpful and pressuring people,,!
How is it hurtful? He's playing the game and giving his thoughts, you claim to be aggressive but if a slight comment comes off aggressive towards you, you start hurling aTe around?
You can't claim to be aggressive but when something is thrown back at you, you can't claim it to be hurtful, considering aggressiveness as you claim you are, can be hurtful if used incorrectly.
This is what gives me also the impression that this whole charade of you claiming your aggressive is fake.
Sets up KT for vote again and then....
Nothing. :/
Calls KT fake and then doesn't push. What is this?
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 212, Kop wrote:In post 204, KainTepes wrote:But I want to be AGGRESSIVE like all the strong players and catch scum like they can... am I not aggressive enough??
I don't really think you should be asking that question.
How do you feel about this wagon forming on you?
Coaching and defending but he's not being direct about defending which makes his coaching so much more scummy. He's kind of indirectly defending and buddying kt and its scummy. Super bad ugly scummy
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 215, Kop wrote:In post 213, KainTepes wrote:I dont like it because I am town, but if you all think I am a useless player then its ok lynch me...
That's not the attitude you should be taking. If your style is aggressive, you should be dismantling your wagon by posting against your waggoner's. And arguing the toss.
And you wonder why I think this is all fake....
You're calling him fake while asking him to omgus his wagon and talking about how people should get on that wagon./quote]
Really? OMGUS his own wagon?
I simply stated he should be dismantling his wagon by posting against the people on his wagon. Votes on KT by a few should get KT to react to those votes, I asked him that attitude he took was defeatist and he should go against the people who are voting for him, that's not OMGUS, that's acting in defence and answering back to those people who suspect him. By not going back at them, is making that vote, worthless, doing nothing, because he's not even defending against those votes, he's laying defeat by not going against them.
That's not OMGUS, that's defending and arguing back with those voters.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 225, Kop wrote:In post 222, KainTepes wrote:The more I think of it the LESS it makes sense, it is just like the game in TOS where a person who was sheriff calimed Godfather (which is a bad role), and got lynched because everyone said "no I know you are not godfather because you are SHERIFF"??? But that is so dumb, because sheriff is actually a good role and godfather is a bad role, they just lynched him because they think he is fake, but in reality he is a good guy and the town lynched him even though they knew he was a good guy because that town was stupid, so dave is being the same,,,,
I think I understand the whole point of this, and it's relevance.
But assure you, we're not lynching you based on being a poor player or bowing to the demands of your previous post. That is not what this game is about, I don't like policy lynches as we never learn anything from them. So in truth, you aren't becoming a policy lynch, just because you think your a poor player.
I just would like to see some posturing from yourself to get back at those people voting for you, and to show them why there votes should be elsewhere. Something we have been seeing lack of.
More telling KT to OMGUS. Like what? Seriously take a stance on him.
See above. I would actually like to see his defence to those posters who voted for him.
I can't take a stance on someone with an attitude that spells defeated. I've seen that attitude in both alignments, and I'm not going to go policy lynch someone because they simply can't or won't defend themselves with a better case.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 238, Kop wrote:In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Whatever. I don't want to deal with this atm. Maybe I'll get back to this game later, I'm still sick to my stomach over the way I was treated here. It may be acceptable to y'all, but that qualifies as an invasion of privacy in my book. I have no problem with what aneninen said, I do have a problem with the way he said it.
Could you point out this post that has made you feel this way, because as far as I can see, I don't see any posts that causes offence.
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:To pretend to understand me like that after playing that game the way he did.... And then defending him with that BS when the whole time you were agreeing with me- I hate the attacks made against me. Perhaps you guys are different from me and offended by different things, but that doesn't excuse attacking me for being offended by something like that- and I didn't ask much from him, just that he watchs his word choice. But instead of staying out of it you had to get into it. It isn't even really a game related topic and you defended him. My mind is still racing with why.
It would help if you could actually point out who this is aimed at.
And if anything, it gives me a town impression to anyone who doesn't watch what they say, because at the end of the day, scum are more likely to watch there word choice, or how they type there sentences, as opposed to someone who spell checks, thorough checks there posts to make sure they don't give anything alignment wise away. But that could just be me, because I know many times when I've played as scum, doesn't matter what style of posting I'm making I will read over and watch what I say in case I slip.
This is also a game, whatever is said, should not be taken to heart. People are going to gain an opinion on everything that is said in the thread, they can choose whether to get involved or not. I've only gotten involved in the whole thing by your earlier stance on over reactions, and how you've reacted to what ever this post that has offended you, something that you tried to imply before that was over reacting.
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I'm sorry I really don't want to play after that BS. I could sit here and take apart every piece of that pile of horse waste of an argument that was used against me but I doubt I could get through your dense skull with a jackhammer, so I'm not even going to try. I need more space for the time being and if you push me I will either claim or replace out.
Seriously, I think your actions by coming into to something that doesn't really affect you was drastically and horrifyingly inappropriate.
See, I don't know what to make of this. Why have this attitude?
I've seen many players in my time playing mafia, have the wrong type of emotion. And it's not good, because at the end of the day, this just a game, if it gets heated, step away and come back when you've calmed down. By taking this stance in your post, it takes away from the game, yes some posts may offend, I've felt the same in a few games, but I've chosen to remain calm, and just fire back without resulting into taking things to heart.
I suppose everyone is different.
See my last game with aphix. Actually its an easy scum metastatic on this site to just tunnel people all game. I've seen it in a large majority of my games.
I've seen tunnelling from both alignments. I don't use that as an indicator.
I will trawl through my list of games and find one where that person tunnelled for a lot, and he was town.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 289, Kop wrote:Well we are finally seeing something from KT. Let's see how he progresses after this.
UNVOTE: EE
I asked how these two things were related and I didn't get an answer so I'm going to extrapolate a bit here and say you think kt is scummier than I am and expect to be voting him soon. I think this is scummy if that's the case.
Where did you ask those two things were related? I might have missed that, I apologise.
I don't think KT is scummier than you, I've prodded sticks, interacted with KT, but I think it's more newbness in KT, than scummy. What you've done that made me vote you is a lot more scummier than KT.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 290, Kop wrote:In post 261, Aneninen wrote:In post 244, Sunset Illusions wrote:2. I do think Eagle is not a good lynch D1. I think this is a noobtown mislynch in the waiting and I will not touch it. I ask the rest of you to do the same. Good choices would be Burning Crystal or Persivul. (More info on this coming).
When will the more info come?
In post 245, Xtoxm wrote:Current preferred lynches would be Smudger/Anen/Mad King. There are others I could compromise on, and others i'd be less enthusiastic to. I won't go into my town reads right now.
Where did those name come from?
In post 246, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
@aneninen. Not mad at you. I wasn't even that messed up until acryon got into it.
Let's just say I have emotional issues that I need to deal with and I apologize for them leaking into the thread. I try to stop myself when I recognize I'm blowing things that don't matter at all into mountains, it's just hard to take a break and calm down when you have... ...things... Like acryon jumping in on things and just riling people up more.
Then let's leave this story where it belongs to. In the past.
In post 253, KuroiXHF wrote:Not that this has anything to do with the game, but how do you (or anyone else) have a flu for a day?
Fzzzzzzzrt.
(1) It might have meant the worst day of flu.
(2) Some people can have flu quickly and dreadfully. It lasts for only a couple of days, 2 or so, but those days are horrible.
In post 253, KuroiXHF wrote:I'm actually in agreement. Some people look better than others, but all of them have a good poker reads. (There are obviously some that are quicker to emotion, but it's striking me more-so as newbish)
The question I have for you is that if you're not really into voting anyone, what's with your vote on Ameninen?
They may have left it there from RVS. Actually I left my vote there from RVS, because I'm another player who simply can't find too much useful content.
I mean, most of the things happening have been about a couple of players, whereas apart from those things... nothing.
In post 254, Almost50 wrote:OK. I'm all caught up. There are more irrelevant posts in this thread than there are actually relevant ones. If I disregard the posts that are irritating in an irrelevant-to-game way I'd say Persy is the one standing out as a slight scum lean.
However, I need to sort out RC first. I haven't had the pleasure of meeting Rasko before, so I would certainly appreciate it if you guys signed your posts for me to tell who's actually doing the post.
Why is it more urgent to sort RC out first than anyone else?
In post 256, Persivul wrote:You're putting us in a bad position here. I don't want to see someone get RL pissed off over this, but I've posted similar stuff in the past, and only when I was scum. It was partially true and partially strategic. When I'm town and I think I'm misunderstood or treated badly, I don't threaten to replace out, because I'm satisfied that my lynch is going to give town good info, and particularly on D1 when there's usually a mislynch anyway. All I see from you is concern about your personal survival. I don't see concern for town. Some people do get overly concerned with personal survival as town, but in general it's more often a scum trait, because scum have smaller teams and the loss of one has much greater impact than loss of a single town.
Erm... I can't explain it, why, but this is scum.
I often do such kind of appeasing posts or what-should-I-call-them, both as town as scum, and even if it can't be noticed (or at least, it has not been yet), I know my town-calm-down posts are different to my scum-calm-down posts.
I know it's weak but right now, better than nothing.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Persivul
In post 260, Persivul wrote:You're ruining this game. It's no fun if someone is actually upset about it IRL.
mod, please replace me
Shyt.
UNVOTE:
I simply can't imagine a scum replacing out in this very situation.
________
Frankly, everyone!
Can't we just play? Like in all the other games?
Pisskop deserves a better playlist than we are, including me.
And I f-cking don't care if you think that's my scum-appeasing post, actually it's not, but even my lynch would be more contribution to this game than everything has happened so far.
Actually Persivul was posting something similar, wasn't he? And he got a scumread from me.
Good.
I'm an idiot.
*hitting a tin bucket with a rusty hammer, which sounds terribly*
I'm also interested in why the vote, then quote his wanting replacing post to unvote.
I've not participated with you in a game where you are scum, so I have zero idea what your like as scum.
So... He wants to scum read people but he hasn't played with them before so he's going to keep playing it safe as he's been playing it all game long?
I've played a few times with Aneninen. And everytime he's been town, so I've not actually seen his scum game.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 330, Kop wrote:In post 326, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Is your scum read on them based on lurking/absence?
He quite specifically said that vote was to pressure them into hoping that he would come out and post.
I've done it before as scum, where I've delayed things by saying soon. It's one of those post words that you hope will appease the crowd and hope they forget about you.
In post 329, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:That's true enough. I guess I could see someone replacing in without reading the game beforehand and realizing they were in over their heads or getting a role they didn't want, but I always read the thread beforehand because I only get town slots when I replace.
Parts of this is wrong.
How would someone replacing in not be happy that they didn't get a role they didn't want? I understand the semantics of it, but I can't see someone replacing in hoping to get a role they want. It never works like that, even signing up for a game doesn't get them a role they want.
The first part : yes, but also real life too. Like there are people who are quite a bit scummier than this and this is one thing that is (according to occams razer) more likely to come from not alignment indicative than scum.
The second part of this post: yes doing that may not necessarily be right, but saying what I'm saying is wrong is wrong and I have no idea why you would accuse me of lying about that. :/
I said parts of it is wrong, that doesn't say I said you are lying.
You are trying to twist words around.
If I said you were lying, I would not be using the words wrong. Using the word wrong means I'm disagreeing with some of your posts.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 331, Kop wrote:In post 292, Aneninen wrote:In post 264, Xtoxm wrote:My Anen read is based on not liking a handful of his comments combined with a healthy dose of meta. Things like voting and unvoting Pers in #261 i'm not really buying, just looks to me like he's trying to fake stream of consciousness. I don't have a scum meta on Anen but I do have a good amount of town, and his play here is very different to what I was expecting from town-Anen..So it follows that this is more likely to be his scum play. Certainly good enough for me to support for D1.
Your logic is wrong, but whatever.
Actually that vote/unvote was the result of my catching-up method. I saw Percivul's post which I found scummy and I saw him replacing outafterI hit the Preview and I added that part next.
Obviously, I know it's only my words but that's all I can tell.
This part above goes for everyone.
So you added that part after seeing it after you hit the preview button? Why not just delete it and not say anything about it?
I understand people voting then seeing a post further if they just hit the quote button, and replying as they are catching up, instead of hitting Q+ and adding them to one big post.
But you actually saw the post in the preview before you even posted it, I don't understand that.
I'm not using this to paint you as scum, but that just doesn't make any sense. I don't know whether to place that into; you are trying to appear that you are keeping up; or in putting your thoughts out and making people see that you are actually thinking out loud in the thread.
So youre not saying he's lying scum who needs to die, but you think he's lying scum that needs to die? Could you please play a little more carefully and push a little less? I like it when people sit on the fence and try not to stick out.
I've not said he needs to die. I've not voted for him purely based on that, I questioned the motive to that post, and gave two possible suggestions. Suggestions that aren't painting him as scum yet.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 332, Kop wrote:In post 277, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Like from here it looks like you're trying to push over a bunch of rocks that are already on their side. I.e. you're not doing much. I like you and acryon for town but I haven't seen you seem to try to get anywhere
This post reeks of trying to buddy.
They are pushing you, so in aid to appease, try buddy them up in hope that they may change there stance towards you. Hmm.
Extrapolated Eagle, who do you actually suspect at this point, or think is worthy for a lynch?
What on earth? How is that buddying? I'm calling them out for nowhere pushes. How is that buddying? If you want buddying go back and look at your interactions with kT
You like Burning Crystal and Acryon as town.
The Buddy point that I pointed out, you just happened to say those two names, because both have suspected you, or still do at that point of you posting, and say you like them for town. That is what makes me suspect you are trying to buddy them up, in hope to get them off your back.
I've seen scum buddy people who suspect them.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:this is a nasty read and a nasty push.In post 337, Kop wrote:VOTE: Sunset Illusions
It's been 1 day 18 hours. I think almost 2 days is way over board for a post coming soon.
Question one; This is a question asking for others to provide reads, if he has read the thread, does he not have any reads of his own?
Question two; What has given him this impression, I think this is trying to either veer away from that possible lynch to distance oneself, I would like to see this more info for a case on Burning crystal or the Persivul slot.
Question three; What kind of question is that, seriously? It'll be the same answer it is for everyone on here.
So yeah. I think kop is is probably scum.
VOTE: kop
In post 373, Kop wrote:In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 21, Kop wrote:In post 14, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
Whats this?
I'm thick you know.
VOTE: TOWNIE247
Trying to deceive us with his user name.
Nothing much to go off here but as scum voting townie is a kind of psychological thing that I'm not going to go into because this post is going to be long enough already
That was a RVS vote.
How is it psychological?
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 67, Kop wrote:In post 47, KainTepes wrote:I am VERY aggressive in TOS, and I will do so here too, because that is the only way to catch evil players off guard and lynch them quickly. Quietness is not good which is why I want people to move
In post 49, KainTepes wrote:Whatever!! At least I am trying to play the game while you are just trying to distract people and picking on new players ilyvmjty. being aggressive does NOT mean i am fake or bad
Also your sucking up to Titus is disgusting, happy to vote you
These two posts do swing in one of two ways.
1). These are townie posts. Because scum wouldn't really want the game to progress as quickly as he points out.
2). These are fake town posts in hoping to make out he has town intentions without any real hunting of any sort.
And stating that your happy to vote, why don't you vote for him? What's holding you back from doing so?
In post 59, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Yeah that was a bit of an overreaction, sorry.
Let's forget that and go here:
I don't like burnings reaction.
VOTE: Burning Crystal
This one is serious.
You simply can't suspect someone for over reacting, then do it yourself and say we should forget about it. That's a contradiction, in my opinion.
VOTE: Extrapolated Eagle
Sets up KT for vote and then votes elsewhere. Feels more like trying to frame kt as town imo. :/
I voted elsewhere simply because you were the better vote at the time.
I put a theory out in the thread that was in my mind. I don't see that as setting someone up for a vote, keeping thoughts to myself isn't what this game is about.
If I suspected KT more than you at that time, I would have put my vote on KT simply for his game play at the start. However, you did a contradiction that I think warrants more focus with a vote, because a contradiction is a lot more suspicious than someone appearing to be faking his gamestyle.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 68, Kop wrote:
Two naked votes.
Are you kind enough to elaborate on these two, I know it's half and half in RVS, but it would be nice to see some justification to these votes, instead of trying to appear to be doing something.
Actually voting someone IS doing something, whereas saying things and not voting is something you do a lot of.
Voting indeed does something, but when it's nearer RVS than actually voting for someone you suspect, is not going to do a lot to make one think 'hang on'.
If you voted me early game during RVS, I'm not going to get my back up and start defending myself, especially when it's a vote that doesn't contain even a joke as to why that vote is there. Within that post you quoted, I tried to get some justification to why those votes were placed, so that I could see why they were there, and possibly the person they voted for, could have answered with something towards those votes. I don't think I recall those people ever questioning or even defending themselves against those votes. If they have and I've missed it, please do point them out to me.
So please don't try misrep me saying that votes don't do anything.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 200, Kop wrote:So what post has made Eagle get the hump? I don't think I've seen any personal attack towards Eagle that has made him react the way he has done. It's baffling that someone who claimed before about over reacting, as gone beyond an over reaction, to a point where he's likely to head this game into a personal confrontation. And I think if he's going to make it personal, it's going beyond the game, imo. Something strikes me that this is all sorts of fake where it is going to cause distractions, will scum do this? Possibly.
I don't know any of your game styles that you have portrayed in the past, so I can only go off what is in the thread. I like many others won't know what is going through your mind, all we can go off, is what you are putting in this thread. And for me, it's far too aggressive, along with contradictions.
I'm being too... Aggressive?
Wut? Also coming from the guy defending kt atm.
Also name two places where I contradict myself.
I can point out those posts that you were being aggressive. But I'll say this first, you blew everything out of proportion for god knows what, that you almost made it a personal attack rather than debating between each other.
In post 165, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:listen here.
You.do.not.understand.my.attitude.because.if.you.did.you.would.always.know.with.100.percent.certainty.what.my.alignment.was.
You know what you PERCEIVE my attitude to be but do not dare to ever claim to know what my attitude is, bud.
In post 173, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I'm not doing this. I'll discuss this with y'all when I get back. Go back and reread everything y'all are posting, perhaps if you knew what you were arguing you'd figure out that y'all are contradicting yourselves left and right just to get a chance to disagree with me. What you are arguing (for the most part) isn't even game relevant and honestly after reading your posts it looks like you're attacking me because you feel like attacking me and you're not even paying attention to what you're saying. So. Go back. Figure out where you messed up and I won't have to take you apart when I get back. This isn't really game relevant but it's a point I feel really strongly about and if you don't back off I will fight this.
In post 178, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Someone please raptor him before I get back. This is a personal matter he's invaded and is pushing on and I swear if he still pushes this when I get back I will push back like he's pushing me: personally.
In post 188, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Yes you offended me but screw it it doesn't matter. Apparently I'm not allowed to have feelings this game. I'm not going on vacation angry, but I would like to know what on earth everyone thinks I'm trying to distract from. The fact that a lot of people thought I was town when I was scum?
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Someone explain the reasons for scum reading me?
Whatever. I don't want to deal with this atm. Maybe I'll get back to this game later, I'm still sick to my stomach over the way I was treated here. It may be acceptable to y'all, but that qualifies as an invasion of privacy in my book. I have no problem with what aneninen said, I do have a problem with the way he said it. To pretend to understand me like that after playing that game the way he did.... And then defending him with that BS when the whole time you were agreeing with me- I hate the attacks made against me. Perhaps you guys are different from me and offended by different things, but that doesn't excuse attacking me for being offended by something like that- and I didn't ask much from him, just that he watchs his word choice. But instead of staying out of it you had to get into it. It isn't even really a game related topic and you defended him. My mind is still racing with why.
I'm sorry I really don't want to play after that BS. I could sit here and take apart every piece of that pile of horse waste of an argument that was used against me but I doubt I could get through your dense skull with a jackhammer, so I'm not even going to try. I need more space for the time being and if you push me I will either claim or replace out.
Seriously, I think your actions by coming into to something that doesn't really affect you was drastically and horrifyingly inappropriate.
Those posts may not appear aggressive, but the tone of the posts and the way it's worded, It strikes me that there is some aggression within those posts.
The contradiction is here; In this back and forth, it certainly set alarms off which made me put my vote on you over KT as I felt these few posts stood out a lot more than what KT was doing.
In post 48, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Titus seems like town based on reaction to Kaintepes.
@KT you sound fake to death.
Day is two weeks, btw.
In post 50, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I didn't say you were aggressive. I didn't say you were bad.
I am not distracting anyone, what would I distract from? If anything you draw attention from anything else happening, so if there was something distracting, you would be doing it.
I did not know you were new but I certainly hope that you aren't planning to continue to use that as an excuse in any game outside a newbie game.
I am not sucking up to Titus, I was responding to Aneninens post about her alignment.
In post 53, Burning Crystal wrote:In post 49, KainTepes wrote:Whatever!!At least I am trying to play the game while you are just trying to distract people and picking on new players ilyvmjty.being aggressivedoes NOT mean i am fake or bad
Also your sucking up to Titus is disgusting,happy to vote you
Fake, fake, fake. He's not distracting anybody, but you are over-reacting. I would vote you but I'm pretty sure we already are.
In post 54, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Overreacting to what? What are you talking about? Bringing up something that seems interesting and placing a vote in RVS? What have you been smoking?
In post 55, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Actually if you'd like to talk about overreacting, hard defending someone who hasn't yet even been accused of being scum nor had anything more than a semi-serious vote on them fits the bill quite nicely, don't you think?
How about you explain attacking someone for pushing their reads?
In post 57, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Just going to say that based on what we have here if I had a gun to my head I'd shoot KT and BC, and the former mostly because of the reaction of the latter. That's a really scummy, post, IMO.
In post 58, KuroiXHF wrote:See, your reaction to being called over reacting is over reacting. You made four posts that appeared very condescending.
In post 59, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Yeah that was a bit of an overreaction, sorry.
Let's forget that and go here:
I don't like burnings reaction.
VOTE: Burning Crystal
This one is serious.
Then you fly off onto the high horse for something that was 'said', I didn't feel warranted your over reaction. It set something off in my mind that just doesn't feel right.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 202, Kop wrote:In post 194, KainTepes wrote:Not that post, Eagle said I am "fake as hell" which is hurtful...
I do not know if Eagle is scum or town but I think Anen is good, he has been helpful and pressuring people,,!
How is it hurtful? He's playing the game and giving his thoughts, you claim to be aggressive but if a slight comment comes off aggressive towards you, you start hurling aTe around?
You can't claim to be aggressive but when something is thrown back at you, you can't claim it to be hurtful, considering aggressiveness as you claim you are, can be hurtful if used incorrectly.
This is what gives me also the impression that this whole charade of you claiming your aggressive is fake.
Sets up KT for vote again and then....
Nothing. :/
Calls KT fake and then doesn't push. What is this?
There's suspecting, questioning, and talking, that doesn't spell setting up for a vote.
See the tone of these posts, because you've said setting up enough times, it's like you would actually like me to vote KT.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 212, Kop wrote:In post 204, KainTepes wrote:But I want to be AGGRESSIVE like all the strong players and catch scum like they can... am I not aggressive enough??
I don't really think you should be asking that question.
How do you feel about this wagon forming on you?
Coaching and defending but he's not being direct about defending which makes his coaching so much more scummy. He's kind of indirectly defending and buddying kt and its scummy. Super bad ugly scummy
If I could actually be arsed to go trolling through every page to find further proof that this is wrong, I could go through some posts in this game that are actually helping KT with his gamestyle by many others. In hindsight, you could call that coaching, something to which you are also guilty off. So if you want to paint that picture, just make sure you also paint yourself into that too. Thanks.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 215, Kop wrote:In post 213, KainTepes wrote:I dont like it because I am town, but if you all think I am a useless player then its ok lynch me...
That's not the attitude you should be taking. If your style is aggressive, you should be dismantling your wagon by posting against your waggoner's. And arguing the toss.
And you wonder why I think this is all fake....
You're calling him fake while asking him to omgus his wagon and talking about how people should get on that wagon./quote]
Really? OMGUS his own wagon?
I simply stated he should be dismantling his wagon by posting against the people on his wagon. Votes on KT by a few should get KT to react to those votes, I asked him that attitude he took was defeatist and he should go against the people who are voting for him, that's not OMGUS, that's acting in defence and answering back to those people who suspect him. By not going back at them, is making that vote, worthless, doing nothing, because he's not even defending against those votes, he's laying defeat by not going against them.
That's not OMGUS, that's defending and arguing back with those voters.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 225, Kop wrote:In post 222, KainTepes wrote:The more I think of it the LESS it makes sense, it is just like the game in TOS where a person who was sheriff calimed Godfather (which is a bad role), and got lynched because everyone said "no I know you are not godfather because you are SHERIFF"??? But that is so dumb, because sheriff is actually a good role and godfather is a bad role, they just lynched him because they think he is fake, but in reality he is a good guy and the town lynched him even though they knew he was a good guy because that town was stupid, so dave is being the same,,,,
I think I understand the whole point of this, and it's relevance.
But assure you, we're not lynching you based on being a poor player or bowing to the demands of your previous post. That is not what this game is about, I don't like policy lynches as we never learn anything from them. So in truth, you aren't becoming a policy lynch, just because you think your a poor player.
I just would like to see some posturing from yourself to get back at those people voting for you, and to show them why there votes should be elsewhere. Something we have been seeing lack of.
More telling KT to OMGUS. Like what? Seriously take a stance on him.
See above. I would actually like to see his defence to those posters who voted for him.
I can't take a stance on someone with an attitude that spells defeated. I've seen that attitude in both alignments, and I'm not going to go policy lynch someone because they simply can't or won't defend themselves with a better case.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 238, Kop wrote:In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Whatever. I don't want to deal with this atm. Maybe I'll get back to this game later, I'm still sick to my stomach over the way I was treated here. It may be acceptable to y'all, but that qualifies as an invasion of privacy in my book. I have no problem with what aneninen said, I do have a problem with the way he said it.
Could you point out this post that has made you feel this way, because as far as I can see, I don't see any posts that causes offence.
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:To pretend to understand me like that after playing that game the way he did.... And then defending him with that BS when the whole time you were agreeing with me- I hate the attacks made against me. Perhaps you guys are different from me and offended by different things, but that doesn't excuse attacking me for being offended by something like that- and I didn't ask much from him, just that he watchs his word choice. But instead of staying out of it you had to get into it. It isn't even really a game related topic and you defended him. My mind is still racing with why.
It would help if you could actually point out who this is aimed at.
And if anything, it gives me a town impression to anyone who doesn't watch what they say, because at the end of the day, scum are more likely to watch there word choice, or how they type there sentences, as opposed to someone who spell checks, thorough checks there posts to make sure they don't give anything alignment wise away. But that could just be me, because I know many times when I've played as scum, doesn't matter what style of posting I'm making I will read over and watch what I say in case I slip.
This is also a game, whatever is said, should not be taken to heart. People are going to gain an opinion on everything that is said in the thread, they can choose whether to get involved or not. I've only gotten involved in the whole thing by your earlier stance on over reactions, and how you've reacted to what ever this post that has offended you, something that you tried to imply before that was over reacting.
In post 233, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I'm sorry I really don't want to play after that BS. I could sit here and take apart every piece of that pile of horse waste of an argument that was used against me but I doubt I could get through your dense skull with a jackhammer, so I'm not even going to try. I need more space for the time being and if you push me I will either claim or replace out.
Seriously, I think your actions by coming into to something that doesn't really affect you was drastically and horrifyingly inappropriate.
See, I don't know what to make of this. Why have this attitude?
I've seen many players in my time playing mafia, have the wrong type of emotion. And it's not good, because at the end of the day, this just a game, if it gets heated, step away and come back when you've calmed down. By taking this stance in your post, it takes away from the game, yes some posts may offend, I've felt the same in a few games, but I've chosen to remain calm, and just fire back without resulting into taking things to heart.
I suppose everyone is different.
See my last game with aphix. Actually its an easy scum metastatic on this site to just tunnel people all game. I've seen it in a large majority of my games.
I've seen tunnelling from both alignments. I don't use that as an indicator.
I will trawl through my list of games and find one where that person tunnelled for a lot, and he was town.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 289, Kop wrote:Well we are finally seeing something from KT. Let's see how he progresses after this.
UNVOTE: EE
I asked how these two things were related and I didn't get an answer so I'm going to extrapolate a bit here and say you think kt is scummier than I am and expect to be voting him soon. I think this is scummy if that's the case.
Where did you ask those two things were related? I might have missed that, I apologise.
I don't think KT is scummier than you, I've prodded sticks, interacted with KT, but I think it's more newbness in KT, than scummy. What you've done that made me vote you is a lot more scummier than KT.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 290, Kop wrote:In post 261, Aneninen wrote:In post 244, Sunset Illusions wrote:2. I do think Eagle is not a good lynch D1. I think this is a noobtown mislynch in the waiting and I will not touch it. I ask the rest of you to do the same. Good choices would be Burning Crystal or Persivul. (More info on this coming).
When will the more info come?
In post 245, Xtoxm wrote:Current preferred lynches would be Smudger/Anen/Mad King. There are others I could compromise on, and others i'd be less enthusiastic to. I won't go into my town reads right now.
Where did those name come from?
In post 246, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
@aneninen. Not mad at you. I wasn't even that messed up until acryon got into it.
Let's just say I have emotional issues that I need to deal with and I apologize for them leaking into the thread. I try to stop myself when I recognize I'm blowing things that don't matter at all into mountains, it's just hard to take a break and calm down when you have... ...things... Like acryon jumping in on things and just riling people up more.
Then let's leave this story where it belongs to. In the past.
In post 253, KuroiXHF wrote:Not that this has anything to do with the game, but how do you (or anyone else) have a flu for a day?
Fzzzzzzzrt.
(1) It might have meant the worst day of flu.
(2) Some people can have flu quickly and dreadfully. It lasts for only a couple of days, 2 or so, but those days are horrible.
In post 253, KuroiXHF wrote:I'm actually in agreement. Some people look better than others, but all of them have a good poker reads. (There are obviously some that are quicker to emotion, but it's striking me more-so as newbish)
The question I have for you is that if you're not really into voting anyone, what's with your vote on Ameninen?
They may have left it there from RVS. Actually I left my vote there from RVS, because I'm another player who simply can't find too much useful content.
I mean, most of the things happening have been about a couple of players, whereas apart from those things... nothing.
In post 254, Almost50 wrote:OK. I'm all caught up. There are more irrelevant posts in this thread than there are actually relevant ones. If I disregard the posts that are irritating in an irrelevant-to-game way I'd say Persy is the one standing out as a slight scum lean.
However, I need to sort out RC first. I haven't had the pleasure of meeting Rasko before, so I would certainly appreciate it if you guys signed your posts for me to tell who's actually doing the post.
Why is it more urgent to sort RC out first than anyone else?
In post 256, Persivul wrote:You're putting us in a bad position here. I don't want to see someone get RL pissed off over this, but I've posted similar stuff in the past, and only when I was scum. It was partially true and partially strategic. When I'm town and I think I'm misunderstood or treated badly, I don't threaten to replace out, because I'm satisfied that my lynch is going to give town good info, and particularly on D1 when there's usually a mislynch anyway. All I see from you is concern about your personal survival. I don't see concern for town. Some people do get overly concerned with personal survival as town, but in general it's more often a scum trait, because scum have smaller teams and the loss of one has much greater impact than loss of a single town.
Erm... I can't explain it, why, but this is scum.
I often do such kind of appeasing posts or what-should-I-call-them, both as town as scum, and even if it can't be noticed (or at least, it has not been yet), I know my town-calm-down posts are different to my scum-calm-down posts.
I know it's weak but right now, better than nothing.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Persivul
In post 260, Persivul wrote:You're ruining this game. It's no fun if someone is actually upset about it IRL.
mod, please replace me
Shyt.
UNVOTE:
I simply can't imagine a scum replacing out in this very situation.
________
Frankly, everyone!
Can't we just play? Like in all the other games?
Pisskop deserves a better playlist than we are, including me.
And I f-cking don't care if you think that's my scum-appeasing post, actually it's not, but even my lynch would be more contribution to this game than everything has happened so far.
Actually Persivul was posting something similar, wasn't he? And he got a scumread from me.
Good.
I'm an idiot.
*hitting a tin bucket with a rusty hammer, which sounds terribly*
I'm also interested in why the vote, then quote his wanting replacing post to unvote.
I've not participated with you in a game where you are scum, so I have zero idea what your like as scum.
So... He wants to scum read people but he hasn't played with them before so he's going to keep playing it safe as he's been playing it all game long?
I've played a few times with Aneninen. And everytime he's been town, so I've not actually seen his scum game.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 330, Kop wrote:In post 326, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Is your scum read on them based on lurking/absence?
He quite specifically said that vote was to pressure them into hoping that he would come out and post.
I've done it before as scum, where I've delayed things by saying soon. It's one of those post words that you hope will appease the crowd and hope they forget about you.
In post 329, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:That's true enough. I guess I could see someone replacing in without reading the game beforehand and realizing they were in over their heads or getting a role they didn't want, but I always read the thread beforehand because I only get town slots when I replace.
Parts of this is wrong.
How would someone replacing in not be happy that they didn't get a role they didn't want? I understand the semantics of it, but I can't see someone replacing in hoping to get a role they want. It never works like that, even signing up for a game doesn't get them a role they want.
The first part : yes, but also real life too. Like there are people who are quite a bit scummier than this and this is one thing that is (according to occams razer) more likely to come from not alignment indicative than scum.
The second part of this post: yes doing that may not necessarily be right, but saying what I'm saying is wrong is wrong and I have no idea why you would accuse me of lying about that. :/
I said parts of it is wrong, that doesn't say I said you are lying.
You are trying to twist words around.
If I said you were lying, I would not be using the words wrong. Using the word wrong means I'm disagreeing with some of your posts.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 331, Kop wrote:In post 292, Aneninen wrote:In post 264, Xtoxm wrote:My Anen read is based on not liking a handful of his comments combined with a healthy dose of meta. Things like voting and unvoting Pers in #261 i'm not really buying, just looks to me like he's trying to fake stream of consciousness. I don't have a scum meta on Anen but I do have a good amount of town, and his play here is very different to what I was expecting from town-Anen..So it follows that this is more likely to be his scum play. Certainly good enough for me to support for D1.
Your logic is wrong, but whatever.
Actually that vote/unvote was the result of my catching-up method. I saw Percivul's post which I found scummy and I saw him replacing outafterI hit the Preview and I added that part next.
Obviously, I know it's only my words but that's all I can tell.
This part above goes for everyone.
So you added that part after seeing it after you hit the preview button? Why not just delete it and not say anything about it?
I understand people voting then seeing a post further if they just hit the quote button, and replying as they are catching up, instead of hitting Q+ and adding them to one big post.
But you actually saw the post in the preview before you even posted it, I don't understand that.
I'm not using this to paint you as scum, but that just doesn't make any sense. I don't know whether to place that into; you are trying to appear that you are keeping up; or in putting your thoughts out and making people see that you are actually thinking out loud in the thread.
So youre not saying he's lying scum who needs to die, but you think he's lying scum that needs to die? Could you please play a little more carefully and push a little less? I like it when people sit on the fence and try not to stick out.
I've not said he needs to die. I've not voted for him purely based on that, I questioned the motive to that post, and gave two possible suggestions. Suggestions that aren't painting him as scum yet.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 332, Kop wrote:In post 277, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Like from here it looks like you're trying to push over a bunch of rocks that are already on their side. I.e. you're not doing much. I like you and acryon for town but I haven't seen you seem to try to get anywhere
This post reeks of trying to buddy.
They are pushing you, so in aid to appease, try buddy them up in hope that they may change there stance towards you. Hmm.
Extrapolated Eagle, who do you actually suspect at this point, or think is worthy for a lynch?
What on earth? How is that buddying? I'm calling them out for nowhere pushes. How is that buddying? If you want buddying go back and look at your interactions with kT
You like Burning Crystal and Acryon as town.
The Buddy point that I pointed out, you just happened to say those two names, because both have suspected you, or still do at that point of you posting, and say you like them for town. That is what makes me suspect you are trying to buddy them up, in hope to get them off your back.
I've seen scum buddy people who suspect them.
In post 359, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:this is a nasty read and a nasty push.In post 337, Kop wrote:VOTE: Sunset Illusions
It's been 1 day 18 hours. I think almost 2 days is way over board for a post coming soon.
Question one; This is a question asking for others to provide reads, if he has read the thread, does he not have any reads of his own?
Question two; What has given him this impression, I think this is trying to either veer away from that possible lynch to distance oneself, I would like to see this more info for a case on Burning crystal or the Persivul slot.
Question three; What kind of question is that, seriously? It'll be the same answer it is for everyone on here.
So yeah. I think kop is is probably scum.
VOTE: kop
Not a nasty push. Question one phrase I've seen scum do that. Question two, I've also seen scum do that.
Is that a nasty push considering I've seen scum do it? Nope, I can push what I think and experienced before.
In post 408, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:@kop
3. Voting is a stance regardless of whether or not you're reacting to it. You can read into why he's voting and such by reading context on the vote.
I'm not misrepping you by saying votes mean something, I'm not pretending to rep you there at all. I'm saying what you were saying was wrong. Misrepping is what you just did with me, taking my words and presenting them as if I was misrepping you when I wasn't.
4. That's not aggression in the scope of the game, you're literally taking passive aggressive behavior and calling it aggression. It is, I guess, aggression, but not really in the sense that I wasn't pushing for reads, etc. I wasn't being aggressive as far getting people lynched. I was reacting, flailing, at an attack made against me. This is borderline misrepping because as far as the game was concerned, I wasn't being aggressive at all.
And you did avoid KT here who HAS been more aggressive than me at least at the start of the game and he was aggressive in terms of the game.
5. Yes. I would like you to vote kt because then there wouldn't be a huge inconsistency between the words you say and the things you Do. You time and time again brought up points on which he was suspicious and then backed off at the end of the post. And since KT is one of the big players you've been focused on all game, your interaction with him is super important as far as reading.
6. Playstyle coaching is what I and several other players have done. Reaction coaching is what you did there. Play style coaching isn't alignment indicative, it's an attempt to help someone get better. Reaction coaching is hinting at how you think said player should react so that they will do the right thing in the right place. THAT IS alignment indicative because it helps the alignment of the player you alter the content of.
The post I quoted there is super scummy because you literally suspect him but instead of pushing him you ask him to turn on his wagon.
7. Yep. You wanted him to attack his wagon. The words you used were dismantle, but that can mean more than one thing. You didn't say dismantle the arguments against him. You said dismantle the wagon. Either way you want him to turn on them.
8. That's not a policy lynch. A policy lynch is lynching someone for a less than town play. But it's good to know that all I have to do to avoid getting pushed by you is stop defending myself.
11. No. People do replace in for those reasons expecting something and don't get what they want so they don't play. You can't say that's wrong, because it's not. It happens. I don't get what you don't get here.
12. You voted him but you're not trying to paint him as scum? K?
13. Yes. But suspecting that I would try to buddy and me actually buddying people are TWO COMPLETELY different things. I didn't buddy them there and its misrepping to say I did.
14. It's a scummy push because you already said you won't push someone who can't defend themselves and yet here you are voting a freaking LURKER of all things. I'm sorry? I've seen town do it to. It's kind of like the tunneling point. You seem to use the logic most beneficial to you at the time of posting. That's a scum thing to do.
In post 483, davesaz wrote:VOTE: Kop
1. Ineffective pushes on new people and flakes
2. Eagle's case was pretty good
3. Quote wall defense when Eagle started making points on him
4. Not paying attention to most of the player list
In post 692, davesaz wrote:I see that my "pay attention" vote was paid attention to.
UNVOTE:
Spoiler: longquote
Aneninen wrote:
VOTE: Burning Crystal
Because slowly but firmly, they are getting in control to manipulate the whole town.
Maybe one of the earlier major wagons were on their partner, but we can check that later if I'm right. Some other "reads" of them are Whiteknighting, I guess.
This time, I'm not going to get blinded by thinking that someone who comes around to me easily is town.
Comparing Aneninen who is willing to let me live but still uncertain about my alignment to Burning Crystal who is willing to call me obvtown after I say the bodyguard needs to live, I'm more inclined to trust Aneninen. I'm also quite worried about BC's horse trading. It's almost like they're talking up a compromise in thread so as to appear like it isn't coordinated off thread, but I have seen Titus plan a manipulation and this looks similar.
VOTE: Burning Crystal
Note: I have said this in other games and will repeat it here. Being west coast US, I often have to go "last" in the posting order. This means that others, especially those in Europe and east coast US, get to see and respond to a lot of posts while I am sleeping. Coming to the same conclusion can be sheeping, but often it is merely seeing the same thing as much as 8 hours later. End PSA.
In post 710, Kop wrote:@Chilled Tea
Could you care to elaborate more on your scum read of me, because the way I posted doesn't give me much of a mean to defend my self too.
In post 705, chilledtea wrote:I get townie vibes from Kuroi but he could be a very good scum player, regardless I see no reason at the moment to go for his lynch.
You get town vibes, but could be a very good scum player. Is this a fence sitting read? I'm not sure what your trying to achieve with this comment.
In post 705, chilledtea wrote:The next best is burning crystal. This is because of the fact that largely she was very difficult to read through the thread, and at the end she changed her mind very quickly during the convo with MKA. I don't like that.
Something we agree on.
Burning Crystal is the best option for this day. I don't like this peace keeping offering offer. Yeah (titus head) may have jumped on RC of MKA regularly in the past, but you can't shy away from it in a game where you feel that there is traction, because of previous games. Whatever has happened in previous games, you are following your reads at the end of the day and playing a game.
Is it your fault that he could be giving you a reason to push it? Or something you sense is wrong, you aren't going to push it further? I'm not sure what Titus is trying to achieve, the hachet should be buried after the game is finished, not during another one where she could be possibly correctly guessing her reads. I understand the motive, but not during the process of a game.
She has turned away from the whole thing too softly for my liking.
In post 712, chilledtea wrote:In post 711, Kop wrote:In post 710, Kop wrote:@Chilled Tea
Could you care to elaborate more on your scum read of me, because the way I posted doesn't give me much of a mean to defend my self too.
I agree that my post was a bit vague regarding you. It is regarding some stuff that happened some time back, and eagle made a case on you.
I got the feeling that he was right. It felt a lot like your posts were empty, some advice to KTepes, to eagle, some possibility regarding theories. To put it simply it didn't feel like as if your contribution to this game is something more than common sense. I am fairly certain that you were also on the wagon on KTepes early on, and to me that feels a bit scummy. That is also the reason for my distrust in dave. Like aneninen put it, "going for the low hanging fruit".
In post 591, Burning Crystal wrote:I could but my obvtown reads are pushing Anenenien. Tex is not likely to give us reaction, so he's more of a lynch if there's nothing better to do.
~Titus
In post 716, chilledtea wrote:As far as kuroi is concerned, I have, for the most part in the game considered him town and he has given me little reason to consider him otherwise. But some people are mentioning that he plays differently according to his meta if he is town, and that was the reason why I said that he could be a really good scum player.
In post 718, chilledtea wrote:In post 715, Kop wrote:In post 712, chilledtea wrote:In post 711, Kop wrote:In post 710, Kop wrote:@Chilled Tea
Could you care to elaborate more on your scum read of me, because the way I posted doesn't give me much of a mean to defend my self too.
I agree that my post was a bit vague regarding you. It is regarding some stuff that happened some time back, and eagle made a case on you.
I got the feeling that he was right. It felt a lot like your posts were empty, some advice to KTepes, to eagle, some possibility regarding theories. To put it simply it didn't feel like as if your contribution to this game is something more than common sense. I am fairly certain that you were also on the wagon on KTepes early on, and to me that feels a bit scummy. That is also the reason for my distrust in dave. Like aneninen put it, "going for the low hanging fruit".
I don't think I've ever voted KT, I was suspicious off him, but I've suspected people who have played in the same manner, and it's become an distraction because those have always flipped town. I'd not lynch him for the way he is playing, unless he gives off a tell that he is scum.
There are much better options right now, over KT.
Actually, the fact that you weren't voting for KT but pushing for him, is exactly what irked eagle. And I agree with him on this case. There was no fear of lynching KT at that point. So voting him/not voting him didn't really matter.
Like I said, it felt like you were trying to manipulate the town into starting the wagon while looking innocent in the process. I am not sure how to put it. I still think you are scum.
In post 705, chilledtea wrote:Allright. I have somewhat completely read throught the thread to the best of my capability.
I believe that Kop would be the best person to lynch today. He is my biggest scumread but only because of the way he posted.
In post 722, acryon wrote:The following is my stream of consciousness read-through post.
In post 514, Almost50 wrote:OK, I double checked to verify the result. I'm convinced you ARE a WW, but also a 3 Mafia (GF + 2Goons) would know there's no PGO.
Either way:
VOTE: Mad King Ashnard
Oh goodness...
In post 533, Burning Crystal wrote:Ok, someone please explain why we are WW hunting? I am tired and half brain dead.
~Titus
We aren't. Almost50 is almost out of his mind.
In post 539, Mad King Ashnard wrote:I think Almost is actually just really really bad.
I mean I know Almost is just really really bad but I think this is an instance of him being bad rather than scum.
Davesaz is scummier.
Ugh I am worried this might be the case. So many of my games have me torn on people who are just town playing very badly.
Spoiler:
The spoiler above is just horrible. Any WW would just sit quietly and pretend your claim was real, knowing it wasn't. Why in the world would a WW ever call you out based on your claim not matching the setup?
At this point I am feeling bad-town for Almost and scum for Dave. His post re: not killing the bodyguard reads very bad.
In post 729, acryon wrote:In post 727, Burning Crystal wrote:@acyron, Dave was softingbeforethe Almost wagon had traction. I think that's fueling a lot of people misreading Dave (especially Xtoxm). If Dave was softing PR onlyafterAlmost claimed BG it would be a problem as it would look like scum seeking survival. I get the suspicion thrown Dave's way but it's bad. I feel awkward defending Dave so hard because he doesn't want it. Maybe some of the push on Dave is Wifom protection, but since a good chunk of the game is scumreading me now, I can defend Dave without him being obvtown which he doesn't want and Dave being obvtown is bad. Xtoxm is making a mistake that how he feels is somehow objective when looking at only half the picture. #frustrating
I would totally vote Kurio. I know my support might not mean much given the current mentality against me. I have always felt the dynamic between him and MKA was wierd and I hate his lurking when we should be trying to throw together. I think MKA and I would both be ok with that. They have virtually no interaction and K has been following MKA like a lost puppy and obvtown reading him. Being scum in this scenario, the perfect play is to drop something a little scummy and leave. Lurk shit out. The other scum (SK or other team) would be much less likely to shoot you.
As for Kop, I am not as big a fan of a lynch there. As opportunistic as his posts are, I think it's town opportunism. People jump down my throat for being a decent human being and cooperating with people all the fucking time. I used to have an expression (if Titus is wagoned D1, she's usually town). That's frustrating as fuck about things but I cannot necessarily say the timing alone is scummy of Kop.
VOTE: Kurio
I will most likely join you in a moment on Kuro, but want to sort this first. Would you mind pointing me to Dave's softing prior to the BG claim? I don't know how but I read through and missed it still.
In post 731, acryon wrote:In post 730, Burning Crystal wrote:Acyron, I would rather not as Dave was softing his full role, not just being a PR generally. It would probably be more protown to lynch us than to have me out Dave's role.
~Titus
I thought maybe this was just common knowledge that I was somehow missing, but if what you said is the case, then let's not discuss that anymore.
That being said I'm sure you'll understand my unwillingness to trust your vouch for him unless I see it myself. Still fine with leaving him for today, but taking a closer look tomorrow.
In post 735, Burning Crystal wrote:Reread Dave's ISO supposing Dave is the furthest thing from arrogant. That's as close as I can get you.
~Titus
In post 746, Mad King Ashnard wrote:My read on kuroi this game has consisted of "if he was scum he would be better than this right?"
In post 758, chilledtea wrote:In post 755, Aneninen wrote:In post 705, chilledtea wrote:I believe that Kop would be the best person to lynch today. He is my biggest scumread but only because of the way he posted. Some people who I consider town (Anenien, etc) believe he is town because of some posts in which he advises my previous slot owner. Unfortunately I don't consider advice as a town read.
Have you ever seen scum-Kop?
No, I haven't.
In post 705, chilledtea wrote:Texcat is also good choice in my opinion, I don't agree with anenien that there is some planned wagon on her.
Why is she scummy?
By the way, Chilled may be town.
I will answer this a bit later
Is that one still a tell?In post 718, chilledtea wrote:Like I said, it felt like you were trying to manipulate the town into starting the wagon while looking innocent in the process. I am not sure how to put it. I still think you are scum.
To me it is. You don't think so? Personally I am not a big fan of "X plays inthismanner when scum ; he isn't playing inthismanner. Hence, he is town." logic.
In post 780, Mad King Ashnard wrote:We're town yo.
I've only been mislynched on D1 once before. And that involved both BBT and Lilith.
Don't be the second.
In post 755, Aneninen wrote:In post 719, Kop wrote:I've said similar things to that in previous games when I've been scum, when trying to give reads out without really asserting myself to give the impression that I know too much.
Did you mean Zar's?
In post 755, Aneninen wrote:In post 746, Mad King Ashnard wrote:My read on kuroi this game has consisted of "if he was scum he would be better than this right?"
Feels fake. Although I can't put my finger on anything definite.
In post 788, acryon wrote:In post 760, KuroiXHF wrote:
Two things:
1) Eagle isn't in the game anymore. You need to relax with a cup of chilled tea.
2) You're coming up with excuses now. If you had such a huge problem with my drunk post, you'd mention it at the time. No one did, except Eagle.
...and I never got that five bucks.
Eh, I've pushed someone for a drunk post that I thought felt fake in another game and it just turned into a big TvT wall-off, which I'd rather not do here. Made more sense for me to hold it until I had more to talk about re: you. Also please...the walls...
In post 768, Almost50 wrote:*Sigh* I keep refreshing and refreshing in hopes to find something useful, but all I see is chit-chat or wall quotes with one-liner comments. You people don't seem to agree on anything at all. No 3 players have the same #1 lynch priority, and it looks like we're bargaining with each other, yet not even close to being successful at that.
Are you part of the town or not? You have a part to play in convincing people and getting people to agree, which I haven't seen you really do, and then you expect to leave and have it just happen organically?
In post 782, KuroiXHF wrote:In post 780, Mad King Ashnard wrote:We're town yo.
I've only been mislynched on D1 once before. And that involved both BBT and Lilith.
Don't be the second.
It's fallacious to assert that you're not scum because you weren't scum in another game. As for the other points pointed to me, I'll get to it when work slows down later, but in short - I completely forgot to add in the votes since the last vote count. I take responsibility for that error.
Are you playing dumb here? Obviously no one would genuinely assert that, and that's certainly not what MKA is doing here.
In post 784, Kop wrote:In post 780, Mad King Ashnard wrote:We're town yo.
I've only been mislynched on D1 once before. And that involved both BBT and Lilith.
Don't be the second.
To be fair, anybody and everybody can use that defence. It doesn't hold water. I've been mislynched many a time, I don't use that as a defence to votes being put on me.
Are you also playing dumb? MKA clearly being snarky, not making a legitimate defense to be argued with.
In post 808, Almost50 wrote:Probably. Scum!Titus would've seized the chance to make a push on town!me all the way. But that's not all. I get town vibes from their posts (both of them) and reactions to everything being said of/to them.
In post 810, Almost50 wrote:In post 809, Kop wrote:Is there not a slight chance Burning Crystal has taken this stance, to get town credit?
Who would be your preferred lynch?
1- It's possible, but not very probable IMHO.
2- One of the 4 in my lynch pool. I'm currently on Mad King, but I'm really tempted to lynch KT now. The problem with KT is I don't know if I'm hating them "just" for scum or hating their posting style more which could be making them look even more scummy for me.
Also, I know myself that my early reads on the game are usually off especially when there have been lots of replacemnets, but this one mostly concerns the EE/chilled spot bc I'm scum reading them. It works FOR the Ranger slot, bc if I'm still reading them as town after the first replacement then they must've been really good bc I tend to suspect the replacement slots more.
Also, Fire Starter actually did provide a wall post of reads, and I don't see why scum!Fire would do that if they intended to sub-out. I mean, if you hated your slot and intended to leave, why would you go through the trouble of typing all this? I'd've suspected them a li'l bit more had they decided to stay.
In post 811, davesaz wrote:In post 805, texcat wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that KT is an alt and is doing this on purpose??
No opinion on the alt vs new question.
No doubt that it's on purpose. Torn between "scum trying to skate by" vs. "alignment neutral attention seeker". I had that thought right from the very beginning and events since then have not done much to change it.