Open 632 - Jungle Republic (Game Over)

[Dwlee99]

ooooh I replaced kain. Kain is an interestin' fella', y'know?

[Dwlee99]

omg

[Dwlee99]

k

[Dwlee99]

not scum this time. rolling scum in an open = death. I'll probz read tonight.

[Dwlee99]

have their been any claims I should know about considering it is an open? I haven't actually read the setup I should probz do that.

[Dwlee99]

ok so both factions killed ranger? that's interesting.

[Dwlee99]

oh wait the wolves don't have a kill AND are a person down AND there's a cop that only can catch them. what

[Dwlee99]

oh the mafia doesnt have the kill that makes more sense

[Dwlee99]

yea i read your post wrong

[Dwlee99]

@Dwlee:

I'm waiting on your reads and hoping they'd be as good as they were in borderlands.

<3

[Dwlee99]

you actually just gave me the motivation to read the game before I play league

[Dwlee99]

Almost is town. GR is probz town. Likin mario.
Debating a shotty or not mafia vote atm. I'mma go with shotty cause mario is on it:
VOTE: Shotty

[Dwlee99]

shotty feels fake

[Dwlee99]

lies

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Shotty

Silence says a thousand words

And what do those thousand words say?

that kop is a genius

[Dwlee99]

lol i knew that was a fake hammer and almost lays down a real hammer much lulz

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee99
Kop
Not_Mafia
SnarkySnowman
Almost50
grapes
drmyshottyizsik
hasta_la_pasta
Golden Robster
MarioManiac4

5 of these are scum LOL

[Dwlee99]

ayyy back to 4-4.

Yo almost shotty was p obv town after that claim w/ the vanilla townie why you hammer him before I could declare it. :<

[Dwlee99]

ok so like what is happening here and I feel like obvtowning upon replacing in might have been bad.

[Dwlee99]

explain how you're determining who is werewolf and who is mafia?
Then I'll spit reads

[Dwlee99]

town
almost
rob
scum
everyone else but one

[Dwlee99]

tbh one of my town reads is probz wrong.

[Dwlee99]

I'm not very confident that one of you are scum, I'm just paranoid af.

[Dwlee99]

uhhhh

[Dwlee99]

this game is p hype

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: hasta

[Dwlee99]

only slot I don't think has a real chance of being town tbh

[Dwlee99]

mario. You're probz town, get off the almost wagon. Join me on hasta.

[Dwlee99]

you do realize there are 4 town alive right?
And if you're questioning whether or not I'm town I laugh at you

[Dwlee99]

because you acted townie? lol

[Dwlee99]

vote hasta ffs

[Dwlee99]

ewww suzune ;P

[Dwlee99]

i remember you from badlands, we didnt get to play much together unfortunately though.

I want you to vote hasta, tho. He's like for sure scum.

[Dwlee99]

Okay let's get the ball rolling here. This is where my reads stand right now

Town Lean
Mario, Almost
Nullish
Not_Mafia, Dwlee
Scum Lean
Hasta, Snakysnowman,
Scum
Golden Lobster

Almost is in a tough spot. Right now he seems kind of townish, but my feelings for him swing back and forth by page. Therefore, I want to make sure that is marked as a tentative town lean.

incorrect you dont have me at the top

[Dwlee99]

kk.

[Dwlee99]

i'm sad that mario/rob/almost and suzune can't all be town.

[Dwlee99]

there we go two out of the five votes we need.

[Dwlee99]

heuristically you're getting lynched.

[Dwlee99]

the fact that he has given me literally 0 reason to believe that he is town. It's pretty much PoE.

[Dwlee99]

Like here's where I'm at:
People who are most likely town:
Almost
Robster
Suzune
Mario
^ at least one of these has to be wrong

If two wrong, one of the people outside that list has to be town, and out of that list of people hasta is the least likely (practically 0%) to be town.

[Dwlee99]

Not_Mafia
SnarkySnowman
heuristically_alone

There's at least 2 scum in this list based on (at most) two people from
Almost
Robster
Suzune
Mario
being scum.

[Dwlee99]

Robster and suzune are scum hunting like crazy
Almost and you seem genuine.

[Dwlee99]

Honestly if I had to pick which two from my list were not town I would actually pick robster and suzune.

[Dwlee99]

I bet hasta's slot is mafia. Not many people joining the lynch.

[Dwlee99]

Which is why my two guesses for scum from my list are suzune and rob.

Well he is. I will probably link posts when I get back this afternoon (about to go out) and town case him, but until then hasta is obviously the correct choice.

Because he's done NOTHING to make me think he is possibly town.

1. True.
2. Forgot.

Either way it doesn't matter that mafia/werewolves have the same amount of people, hasta is still scum.

[Dwlee99]

[quote="In post 539, Dwlee99"][/quote]
like this post is just guessing which scum team he is, it doesn't matter which one, though, he's still scum.

[Dwlee99]

I bet hasta's slot is mafia. Not many people joining the lynch.

like this post is just guessing which scum team he is, it doesn't matter which one, though, he's still scum.

[Dwlee99]

ok, I'm going out for a couple of hours. I do not have data on my phone yet so I'll be back around 4pm EST

[Dwlee99]

ok so what you're saying is it is good that I can't tell who is mafia and who is werewolf. good.
Turns out I got dressed super fast btw

[Dwlee99]

I fucking told you, mario. I fucking told you.
(Excuse my french)

[Dwlee99]

Mario if you thought hasta could have been (within a reasonable possibility) town I am just like facepalming super hard

[Dwlee99]

Dude, I may be 14 and I may not be very good at this game but you don't give me enough credit. Look at his slot. Compare it to all of the other slots. He is so obviously scum I can't even.

[Dwlee99]

You finally recognized how obvscum the slot was with that shit replace in. I'm now telling you I was right all along and that replace in just proves my point.

[Dwlee99]

idek what you're saying so ^-^

[Dwlee99]

idek what you're saying so ^-^

why does my vote matter more than everyone else's?

I'm talking to everyone but specifically you because you were the one fighting me on my read.

[Dwlee99]

yea mario is trying to fight me on this obvscum and I'm just like why

[Dwlee99]

suzune you have held intent way too long what is goin on?

[Dwlee99]

woopwoop

[Dwlee99]

mario can you be more clear in your posts like what the heck is it in that sentence

[Dwlee99]

okay so no lynch isnt correct play as I will just get night killed so no thanks. Nm and ss is too easy, I feel.
I think out of my town reads:
Almost
Mario
Rob.
rob is the most likely scum. I dont think all of my town reads are right but I dont think more than one is wrong. So.I want to lynch out of
rob
nm
ss

[Dwlee99]

Ok so I think that the ww team is either snarky./ nm or snarky / rob.

[Dwlee99]

mario came off looking super good.from that exchange, imo

[Dwlee99]

Btw I am feeling snarky and rob as the scum team

[Dwlee99]

almost, please seriously consider it being rob snarky. I have had stubborn town lose us the game in lylo before. Look at legend of zelda mafia, I had pisskop pegged but the other conftown.threatened to stall the game to no lynch and when I got nked to lynch sircakez.

[Dwlee99]

everyone unvote please

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Golden Robster because Hilary is irl scum

distancing from rob, never even mentions them again in the rest of their iso

Unpopular opinion time: I am the first pro-town player to have posted so far.

VOTE: kelbris.

My standard "town claiming early = scum" note.

So yeah, I pretty much assume you're just going for reactions unless you are just completely full of shit.

I'm pretty sure I could name why you made those connections though, as thin as they are.

And at least you're voting the person you call a WW, which I think it kind of the more dangerous scum between the two factions so there's that.

oh no we got a fun-sucker here!

<Turn Sarcasm on> How long before 'I die pretty much night one' from Ranger <Turn Sarcasm off>

Well if I do my job right, then that

is

the result which'll happen.

Or N2, but eh. You've got your answer; just until 23!

Is this a WW claim I see?

Almost is being unnervingly quiet. Snarky has a recurring meta of lurking, which is slightly annoying but not alignment indicative. KainTepas is annoying as both alignments, hard to differentiate him as town or scum. Not played with half of these players so I have no idea of their capabilities.

Paranoid much?

That said I'm attempting to not let the lurksack meta creep into all my games

And at least you're voting the person you call a WW, which I think it kind of the more dangerous scum between the two factions so there's that.

I kinda wanna lynch this into the ground.
Weird as fuck thing to be factoring into your reads at this point.
Appeasement vibes out the ass.
And I don't understand how you can brush off rangers reads by assuming they're not serious but at the same time say something like this where it looks like you're taking them seriously.

VOTE: Knightmare

Amen to this.

Ok so you're probably scum.

I think my point is valid about the WW's being the more dangerous faction and Ranger voting in that way makes me think he's coming from a townie mindset. His reads are thin, as I've stated, but I think it's coming from a townie place to get things going.

Not sure I understand what you're saying but I also think you missed Grape's point, being that the implied tone of your post felt scummy, along with grape's other point about how you say the list can't be serious yet you also take it seriously. Vibes somewhat scummy.

VOTE: grapes

Also, OMGUS-y much?

Am I not allowed to voice concerns about the players I'm trying to discern?

Of course you are, but -out of sympathy- I decided to make it easier for you in this game: I'm a "werewolf mafia serial killer cult recruiter town godfather" (OH! Shoot!! Did I just claim on page 2?? Me and my soft heart.)

ANOTHER WEREWOLF CLAIM GUYS EZ GAME

It's been a long time since no one tried to insta lynch me. I guess 4 years away will do a lot.

Insta-lynch this guys??


Ranger + Almost WW team
???? Mafia team


Actual reads though,

scumlean on Knightmare, slight townlean on Grapes and Ranger. Null everywhere else.

VOTE: Knightmare

distancing from being werewolf

pedit thanks

[Dwlee99]

Where is "the town"?? It's a 3-way debate going on between you, me & Dwlee. There are 3 other players who have yet to comment on this. Mario didn't make a stance and Grob/SS didn't even post yet.

P-edit:

UNVOTE:

I don't see the need to unvote though. there are only 2 WWs so they can't speed lynch.

I dont want to end the day. Just fos for now. But snarky is scum, just so you know.

[Dwlee99]

{Almost50}
{Snarky}
{Kelbris, knightmare}
{Ranger}

VOTE: Ranger

{Ranger, Almost50, Snarky}
{Kop}
{Kelbris, Knightmare}

Knightmare & Ranger are most likely not the same alignment from that discussion, unless they orchestrated that little discussion which I doubt considering both factions do not have a daychat.

I liked Ranger's response in #21 and I disliked Knightmare's response to Ranger's vote. There was an aggressiveness in his posts that i'm not quite sure what to think of.

Almost is being unnervingly quiet. Snarky has a recurring meta of lurking, which is slightly annoying but not alignment indicative. KainTepas is annoying as both alignments, hard to differentiate him as town or scum. Not played with half of these players so I have no idea of their capabilities.

Rob puts snarky into high town.from early on. When explaining.reads simply says snarky has a.meta of.lurking that isnt.alignment.indicative, no explanation of that read

pedit omg ffs ranger isnt a fucking.god at mafia no offense but why do.people.take.his.reads as god sent?

[Dwlee99]

i think ranger is.good at this game, yes, but he isnt a.god and his reads are not always right.

pedit BUT ROB HAD THEM AS HIGHEST TOWN.FOR NO REASON

[Dwlee99]

she*

[Dwlee99]

{Golden Robster}
{

SnarkySnowman

}
{

grapes

}
{

Kop

,

shotty

}
{

Almost50

}
{

hasta_la_pasta

,

KainTepes

}
{

Reubrus Swagrid

}
{

kelbris

| Not_Mafia}

Almost, Why should we sheep these reads?

[Dwlee99]

scum all at the top, and one near the bottom. pls almost

[Dwlee99]

Post #643 (ISO) »

Wed Apr 20

, 2016

4:20 pm

hehehehe

[Dwlee99]

{Golden Robster}
{

SnarkySnowman

}
{

grapes

}

Almost Positively Town Starts Here ->>>

{

Kop

,

shotty

}
{

Almost50

}
{

hasta_la_pasta

,

KainTepes

}
{

Reubrus Swagrid

}
{

kelbris

| Not_Mafia}

^ what we know / are very sure of

{

Golden Robster

}
{

SnarkySnowman

}
{

grapes

}

Almost Positively Town Starts Here ->>>

{

Kop

,

shotty

}
{

Almost50

}
{

hasta_la_pasta

,

KainTepes

}
{

Reubrus Swagrid

}
{

kelbris

| Not_Mafia}

it is this, or

{Golden Robster}
{

SnarkySnowman

}
{

grapes

}

Almost Positively Town Starts Here ->>>

{

Kop

,

shotty

}
{

Almost50

}
{

hasta_la_pasta

,

KainTepes

}
{

Reubrus Swagrid

}
{

kelbris

|

Not_Mafia

}

I don't see your point..

[Dwlee99]

ok I kind of see what you mean. You think she had to get SOMETHING right?

[Dwlee99]

do we want to do this for every dead player's final reads?

[Dwlee99]

actually this seems like a great idea, look at every single dead town player's reads.

[Dwlee99]

I'll start getting the reads lists and stuff after i eat some pizza.

[Dwlee99]

oh yea I never did the looking through the reads lists. almost, tomorrow you need to vote rob.

[Dwlee99]

okay so no lynch isnt correct play as I will just get night killed so no thanks. Nm and ss is too easy, I feel.
I think out of my town reads:
Almost
Mario
Rob.
rob is the most likely scum. I dont think all of my town reads are right but I dont think more than one is wrong. So.I want to lynch out of
rob
nm
ss

I say a lot in this post and you just say no? Very informative.

[Dwlee99]

Long post incoming

{Anybody + Snarky} -> Top choice -> N_M < Almost <= Mario < Dwlee
{Almost, Mario} -> Top choice -> Mario first
{Dwlee, N_M} -> Possible
{Mario, Almost} -> Possible
{Mario, Dwlee} -> Nope
{N_M, Almost} -> Nope
{Almost, Dwlee] -> Nope
{Mario, N_M} -> Nope

longest post 2k16..

[Dwlee99]

{Almost, Mario} -> Top choice -> Mario first This isn't possible.
{Dwlee, N_M} -> Possible Not possible
{Mario, Almost} -> Possible Repetition of the other one..
{Mario, N_M} -> Nope Why is this nope?

[Dwlee99]

{Almost, Mario} -> Top choice -> Mario first This isn't possible.

How is it not possible? They strongly townread each other for the majority of the game without much reasoning. The only substance I got when I questioned Almost about his entrance was #237 where he stated that he liked that they were on the Shotty wagon together.

{Dwlee, N_M} -> Possible Not possible

{Mario, N_M} -> Nope Why is this nope?

You think their latest discussion has been an orchestrated charade? Point out parts where you feel it's forced and come back to me.

I doubt 3 out of 4 of my town reads were wrong? That's why. Almost is genuine in all his posts, making that combo impossible.
Good point.

[Dwlee99]

Don't ever change Dwlee.

unsiht k

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: snarky

[Dwlee99]

if one of you is town (almost 100% sure of that) and we're wrong we lose, btw.

[Dwlee99]

so scum team was nm rob? Or nm mario?

[Dwlee99]

i suppose nm almost is also possible there?

[Dwlee99]

eh i'll find out when the mod comes I guess :/

[Dwlee99]

I am asking the same question

[Dwlee99]

at least you convinced me you were town at the end, rob.

[Dwlee99]

why don't you just tell us, instead?

[Dwlee99]

know what would be funny, if you quick hammered as town and are trolling us. Is that what is happening?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: SS

when I saw this I was going to unvote but figured snarky had to be scum. fml

[Dwlee99]

I hate you

[Dwlee99]

Fuck me

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Golden Robster because Hilary is irl scum

distancing from rob, never even mentions them again in the rest of their iso

Unpopular opinion time: I am the first pro-town player to have posted so far.

VOTE: kelbris.

My standard "town claiming early = scum" note.

So yeah, I pretty much assume you're just going for reactions unless you are just completely full of shit.

I'm pretty sure I could name why you made those connections though, as thin as they are.

And at least you're voting the person you call a WW, which I think it kind of the more dangerous scum between the two factions so there's that.

oh no we got a fun-sucker here!

<Turn Sarcasm on> How long before 'I die pretty much night one' from Ranger <Turn Sarcasm off>

Well if I do my job right, then that

is

the result which'll happen.

Or N2, but eh. You've got your answer; just until 23!

Is this a WW claim I see?

Almost is being unnervingly quiet. Snarky has a recurring meta of lurking, which is slightly annoying but not alignment indicative. KainTepas is annoying as both alignments, hard to differentiate him as town or scum. Not played with half of these players so I have no idea of their capabilities.

Paranoid much?

That said I'm attempting to not let the lurksack meta creep into all my games

And at least you're voting the person you call a WW, which I think it kind of the more dangerous scum between the two factions so there's that.

I kinda wanna lynch this into the ground.
Weird as fuck thing to be factoring into your reads at this point.
Appeasement vibes out the ass.
And I don't understand how you can brush off rangers reads by assuming they're not serious but at the same time say something like this where it looks like you're taking them seriously.

VOTE: Knightmare

Amen to this.

Ok so you're probably scum.

I think my point is valid about the WW's being the more dangerous faction and Ranger voting in that way makes me think he's coming from a townie mindset. His reads are thin, as I've stated, but I think it's coming from a townie place to get things going.

Not sure I understand what you're saying but I also think you missed Grape's point, being that the implied tone of your post felt scummy, along with grape's other point about how you say the list can't be serious yet you also take it seriously. Vibes somewhat scummy.

VOTE: grapes

Also, OMGUS-y much?

Am I not allowed to voice concerns about the players I'm trying to discern?

Of course you are, but -out of sympathy- I decided to make it easier for you in this game: I'm a "werewolf mafia serial killer cult recruiter town godfather" (OH! Shoot!! Did I just claim on page 2?? Me and my soft heart.)

ANOTHER WEREWOLF CLAIM GUYS EZ GAME

It's been a long time since no one tried to insta lynch me. I guess 4 years away will do a lot.

Insta-lynch this guys??


Ranger + Almost WW team
???? Mafia team


Actual reads though,

scumlean on Knightmare, slight townlean on Grapes and Ranger. Null everywhere else.

VOTE: Knightmare

distancing from being werewolf

pedit thanks

{Almost50}
{Snarky}
{Kelbris, knightmare}
{Ranger}

VOTE: Ranger

{Ranger, Almost50, Snarky}
{Kop}
{Kelbris, Knightmare}

Knightmare & Ranger are most likely not the same alignment from that discussion, unless they orchestrated that little discussion which I doubt considering both factions do not have a daychat.

I liked Ranger's response in #21 and I disliked Knightmare's response to Ranger's vote. There was an aggressiveness in his posts that i'm not quite sure what to think of.

Almost is being unnervingly quiet. Snarky has a recurring meta of lurking, which is slightly annoying but not alignment indicative. KainTepas is annoying as both alignments, hard to differentiate him as town or scum. Not played with half of these players so I have no idea of their capabilities.

Rob puts snarky into high town.from early on. When explaining.reads simply says snarky has a.meta of.lurking that isnt.alignment.indicative, no explanation of that read

pedit omg ffs ranger isnt a fucking.god at mafia no offense but why do.people.take.his.reads as god sent?

i think ranger is.good at this game, yes, but he isnt a.god and his reads are not always right.

pedit BUT ROB HAD THEM AS HIGHEST TOWN.FOR NO REASON

scum all at the top, and one near the bottom. pls almost

oh yea I never did the looking through the reads lists. almost, tomorrow you need to vote rob.

[Dwlee99]

WAIT MARIO WAS SCUM. WTF
SNARKY YOU LYING SCUM

[Dwlee99]

WHAT IS HAPPENINGGGG
NORBERT PLS

[Dwlee99]

snarky said rob was scum.
Shotty said we just lost..

[Dwlee99]

I was told by the mod that Mario was scum

what

[Dwlee99]

I had the team pegged though. So salt

[Dwlee99]

This day was p awful. No one looked back in the rest of the thread to look for associatives. No one looked at nk'd players reads (except almost but dude ranger's reads were crap I told you that)
So yea

Whatevs gg

[Dwlee99]

This day was p awful. No one looked back in the rest of the thread to look for associatives. No one looked at nk'd players reads (except almost but dude ranger's reads were crap I told you that)
So yea

Whatevs gg

Oh, well. I think if I followed you I would've voted N_M

It was like, my own read was on GRob, yours on N_M & Ranger's said Mario!! Yours must've changed bc of the N_M hammer on the previous day I assume, but I didn't know which of the two (Mario/GRob) you would've gone for next!!

SORRY!

I said:
Rob
You said:
NM
Ranger said:
Mario

iirc

[Dwlee99]

-meh-