Open 645: C9++ - Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

I made this.

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Be back in 20ish minutes then I will start reading.

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I made this.

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Not in fact catching up today actually, sorry.

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Okay I DID do some catchup today! But I will finish tomorrow. gnite.

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I'm NGL I have about as much desire to stab myself with a spork as I do to vote titus.

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VOTE: Iraonavp

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L-1.

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I cannot finish catching up for the next 2 days because I'm helping my mom with her film festival for like 12 hours a day.

If you can wait until that's over without producing too much content I can catch up.

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VOTE: Ranger

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Can't put anything besides gut on that right now.

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Sorry for not being super useful. I thought doing things like this would make me more inclined to engage but I'm just kinda not feeling anything rn in general and Mafia is particularly unenjoyable, plus low free time.

I'll pull something together on monday, I promise.

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I am explaining why things are the way they are so that people who play like I do can understand where my current play comes from and hopefully understand that I'm town for it.

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I mean the way things are these days I can virtually guarantee that I will be generally scumread and no one will put anything to it besides general paranoia and playstyle so I can at least get started on explaining things.

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In other news, I made this.

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My meta worked fine for an entire year of almost never getting lynched. The problem isn't with me, it's with people who are certain that they 'know' I'm scum because of superficial similarities and being dead fucking wrong.
In other words, it's that people in general, even those with decent knowledge of my meta, can't scumhunt me effectively and are completely incapable of reading me and they let that paranoia convince them that I'm 100% scum.
In all but one case where I've had people declaring that they were beyond positive that I was scum and variations thereof, I've been town. That one case comes from someone who statistically cannot read me.

So what you are in fact asking me to do is sabotage my win condition as scum so that I can be read as town. And the sad thing is that I already do that to a degree!
There are various forms of emotional manipulation that I use as town but have never once pulled out as scum, and various things on top of that that I have only used against Postie as revenge for the game that the 3 of us were in.

TL;DR, no.

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You're literally telling me to play against my wincon when I roll scum because otherwise people are going to be paranoid of me because I'm

so gud

at playing scum, right?

Like for the love of fucking Annie do you not see that there's something wrong with this picture? Why should I play against my wincon to prevent other people from playing against theirs?

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I don't put in not much effort and I don't skate by on meta? in case you hadn't noticed when I DON'T have meta in the picture I walk all over towns as scum. I'm sure Titus remembers my VLG games

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I promise you, I do not benefit from meta.

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But like I always had notoriety as a scumfuck. what I didn't always have were people deciding that they 100% knew that I was scum and deathtunneling me entire games in aid of that when I was town. I'm weary of it.

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Oh I'm sorry I forgot that I never scumhunted. I even explain it in thread sometimes these days! It's too bad that when I actually explain my reads I usually get instalynched for it, but hey.

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Ranger, TItus read.
Titus, Ranger read.
Zach, reads on both of them.

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holy fuck stop with the votes.

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ira town

oh wait he got quicklynched.

gimme time.

[RadiantCowbells]

Promise content tonight. just gimme a bit. other priorities.

[RadiantCowbells]

I made this.

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Why the heck am I so low?

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I want to do a lengthy, protracted, page by page catchup like I did in early 2016 when I was imitating Ranger's style.
Those were some of my best town games tbh. Except for some of the newbies but hey.

Gimme a sec.

you haven't done anything to warrant yourself a townread yet man don't be so surprised you're null af

I am surprised.
Would you townread me for flying in and deathtunneling someone and powerlynching them? you shouldn't.

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Titus, do YOU want me to vote Ranger? Why?
I don't think my Ira vote was disgusting at all. I followed the group and Titus's request because I didn't have better reads.
Maybe you shouldn't have collectively followed a bad bandwagon and quickhammered when I was super busy?

And for the record, I DID start catching up and immediately unvoted Ira because he was obvious town.

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Don't townread Smithereens.

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Zach we in for some trubz.

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Page 1:

Zach: {Zach}
Towny: {Kappy}
LeanScum: {Smithereens}
Scummy: {LQ}

Note: The fuck LQ? Why are you calling late confirm a scumtell.

Page 2:

Zach: {Zach & Cody}
LeanTown: {Amanda Bynes, Duncestral}
LeanScum: {GET 'EM SMITHERS}
Scummy: {Lemony Snicket}

lol ok dunnstral.

Question:

Bins, Dunnstral, do you guys have history?

Page 3:

Zach: {Strawberry Zacquiri}
LeanTown: {Din Dins, Bumstrall}
Null: {A Plane Farther}
LeanScum: {SamNDeanz}
Scummy: {Vorpal Blade}

Page 4:

Zach: {Banana Zacquiri}
LeanTown: {Fins, City Hall, I'm Sorry Dave But I'm Afraid I Can't Do That}
Null: {ApaFee}
LeanScum: {Trance Ends}
Midscum: {Smittys' Beans
Scummy: {watadisandwatadat}

The fuck is Transcend's opener? Smithereens the only one who defended him? This is no good.

Page 5:

K we back to regular names because I'm bored.

Zach: {Zach}
Towny: {Dunnstral}
LeanTown: {Davesaz}
Null: {APF, Bins}
Leanscum: {Transcend, Loopdan}
Mid+Scum: {LQ}
Scummy: {Smithereens}

VOTE: Smithereens

[RadiantCowbells]

Transcend has been universally townread in every game that I've seen with him where he was scum. I was the only towny that called him as scum in any of them.

I am very wary that Titus got a scum slot. I'm more sure that Smither is scum atm though.

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Hey Smither, what forum and what posts are you referring to when you address his sense of humor?

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When I have reread and slow cooked all 50 pages, yes.

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Ranger had not posted in the first 5 pages, and therefore since I full reset my reads I don't have one.

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You are correct.

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You are correct.

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Dunn was fucking obvtown. no one should be surprised that he died.

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Oh, and for the record, I'm leaning Davesaz as more likely to be town than not. so unvotes.

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I have personal stuff to do right now.

I will do at least to 10 today, at least to 30 tomorrow, and be caught up by the end of the 31st.

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Today = before bed on the night of the 28th, tomorrow = the 29th, for the record.

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Prod dodge

ಠ_ಠ

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Alright. I will keep to my timetable.

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Excluding confirmed alignments from now on. I just figured out Dunn was dead. I am bad.

Page 6:

LeanTown: {Davesaz, Bins}
Null: {APF}
Leanscum: {Transcend, Loopdan}
Mid+Scum: {LQ}
Scummy: {Smithereens}

Oi, Davesaz. Why does the time into the day make something less scummy?

Page 7:

LeanTown: {Davesaz, Bins, Ranger}
Null: {APF}
Leanscum: {Transcend, Loopdan}
Mid+Scum: {LQ}
Scummy: {Smithereens}

Tentative townlean on Ranger. I can understand her reads, nothing contrasts with what I'm thinking.

Page 8:

LeanTown: {Davesaz, Bins, Ranger, Umlaut}
Null: {APF}
Leanscum: {Transcend, Loopdan}
Mid+Scum: {LQ}
Scummy: {Smithereens}

Page 9:

LeanTown: {Davesaz, Bins, Ranger, Umlaut}
Null: {APF, Loopdan}
Mid+Scum: {Transcend, LQ}
Scummy: {Smithereens}

So many questions I want to ask Transcend rn.

Page 10:

LeanTown: {Davesaz, Bins, Ranger, Umlaut}
Null: {APF, Loopdan}
Mid+Scum: {Transcend, LQ}
Scummy: {Smithereens}

Reads unchanged.

Both Transcend <-> LQ and Transcend <-> Smithereens feel like they could easily be scum-scum interactions.
I'm not especially impressed by the Transcend <-> Bins interactions making Transcend town either.

Done for the night.

[RadiantCowbells]

To clarify, just = after the readslist 1-5 was done.

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Ranger, thoughts on me so far?

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Page 11:

LeanTown: {Davesaz, Bins, Ranger}
Null: {APF, Loopdan, Umlaut}
Mid+Scum: {Transcend, LQ}
Scummy: {Smithereens}

Not sure I like Umlaut on this page but I really hate the Transcend <-> LQ interactions on this page.

Page 12:

LeanTown: {APF, Davesaz, Bins, Ranger}
Null: {Loopdan, Umlaut}
Mid+Scum: {Transcend, LQ}
Scummy: {Smithereens}

APF starting to seem reasonably likely to be town. Am OK with them so far.

Page 13:

LeanTown: {APF, Davesaz, Bins, Ranger}
Null: {Loopdan, Umlaut}
Mid+Scum: {Transcend}
Scummy: {Smithereens, LQ}

Eh. Definitely gonna call LQ/Smither the 2 top scum picks. Reasonably OK with voting LQ as of now on the condition that town lynches the fuck out of Smither following a scumflip.
Aka, don't ignore my reads if I die.

BTW, I don't care if my reasons for Scum reading someone are wrong. I do that all the time and am known for it on my home site.

The fuck is this? HI I DONT CARE IF MY READS ARE SHIT I HAVE SHIT READS ALL THE TIME. Who advertises that as town? Like holy Amoline mother of Annie.

Page 14:

LeanTown: {APF, Davesaz, Bins, Ranger}
Null: {Loopdan, Umlaut}
Mid++Scum: {Transcend}
Scummy: {Smithereens, LQ}

You say rangers list is legit.. what's legit about it?

YOU CHANGE THAT TOPIC!

LQ your vote on Bins was fucking awful, but who am I to dictate your game right???????????

HEY IMA CALL YOU SCUM BUT DO NOTHIN ABOUT IT. YEAH BRUH WE GUD HERE. ALL GOOOOOOOD

Page 15:

Towny + I Want To Believe: {Ranger}
LeanTown: {APF, Davesaz, Bins}
Null: {Loopdan, Umlaut}
Mid++Scum: {Transcend}
Scummy: {Smithereens, LQ}

As scum, LicketyQuickety thrives, absolutely thrives in town assuming this. He will throw bad reads around, make a lot of noise, and people will basically go, "terrible" but also "not scum", allowing him to push an incredibly pro-scum agenda and get away with it.

haha destroyed.

Ranger, we need to talk about why you're townreading Transcend and Smithereens as of this point. Neither of them belong in your top townreads.
I'm not going to post my continued catchup until I get a response.

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You wanted a Ranger read from me. I'm trying to establish a good ranger read.

I COULD hurry this up but it would come at a big price in terms of the quality of my reads.

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Oh, and

VOTE: Davesaz

I'm not as confident in this post-Ira-flip, but hell if I have any other major scumreads right now.

you fucking unvote.

[RadiantCowbells]

Davesaz is lynchbait. Nothing in this game has given me any impression that he's scum. Stop voting him.

We're lynching Smithereens, LQ, or Titus today unless something major happens in my catchup. Davesaz lynch is unacceptable.

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What are your reads on LQ and Smithereens?

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Why is Smithereens obvtown?

Full case on both please.

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Either way. Could you vote LQ?

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Mod: V/LA for today, and all Wednesdays in July.

Means no posting from me until tomorrow.

makes that hard

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Scum are hard defending each other this game.

I need to catch up and get a sledgehammer out.

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idgi

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I'm caught up to 20. A little behind from the lack of Ranger.

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Okay Bins might be scum. I don't like her gating an LQ scumread behind a Ranger flip.

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Feels like maybe she's an LQ partner who wants to use a ranger townflip as an excuse to not vote lQ.

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Bins unvotes ty.

Still more confsies in Smithereen scumread than Bins.

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FFS ranger.

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Smithereens has got to be scum.

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Ranger, I see you posting elsewhere, I hatin'

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Umlaut since you vanished, I'm going to float another theory. Inb4 you facepalm, this one's about you~!

Your interactions with me have been to simply pass by and announce that you previously town read me but now you're doubting yourself and you actually find that my reasoning is actually not convincing at all. Aside from the fact that this was a really ostentatious thing to do, It's no coincidence that this was timed with RC blatantly vocalizing his disapproval with my behaviour and Zach getting paranoid as well.

Let's say that it's suddenly occurred to you that you could actually avoid needing to NK me to get rid of me, hence why you've paved the way for a future scum read on me. I checked your ISO and no you weren't telling the truth about this mysterious town read you claim you had on me. That suddenly appeared just now when you publically announced your desire to question your 'town' read on me.

By saying that my reads etc are not credible ergo you need to retract a town read that you never previously said you had, you're clearly setting the stage for yourself to be able to scum read my later. Yeah you were probably excited by the prospect that you might not need to waste a NK.

Why does this theory hold water? If I were wrong, then we would expect your behaviour to publically take issue with every player whose reads were less substantiated than my own, which is a majority of the player pool. However I've noticed you've singled me out with your inconsistent standard, therefore it's completely possible that you're trying to remove my apparent 'immunity' from the lynch.

Also while I'm thinking about it, if you're not liking my ideas, my most recent one was vs Bins and so naturally you must believe that my logic is fallacious. Why don't you go and explain what you found to be wrong in my thought processes hmm?

Something tells me a spoonful of bullshit went into your last few posts no offense.

A little behind from the lack of Ranger.

Sorry, been a little bit busy as of late.

Also have found that I don't really like efforting that much so on a sitewide basis I've basically been trying to return to my minimalist roots and give as little as needed.

I can't grok you townreading Smithereens, I really can't.

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RC I'm really placid in this game. I'd normally pull worse shit as town.

My first town game on this site this year I got banned :3

I was in that game. I have seen your town play.

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No, and usually when people are assuming that you're scumreading them for one thing when it's not true they're scum.

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Like, my reads have been below trash tier recently and I accept that people aren't going to be lining up to sublimate their reads to lynch who I want.

But I have a really strong scumread on Smithereens, I didn't trust Transcend, and I'm generally townreading everyone outside of that besides LQ.

And maybe I'm wrong on 1/2/3 of them but if your attitude is that you don't care what I'm saying and you're sticking with your reads then I can't vote LQ on principle.

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I'm going to go ahead and call Ranger town by PoE.

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This is about page 35.

Town: {Bins}
Towny: {Davesaz}
LeanTown: {Ranger}
Null: {APF, Umlaut}
Scummy: {Loopdan}
Mid++Scum: {Transcend}
Scummy: {Smithereens, LQ}

If I get a townflip in you/Smithereens/LQ it will change my read on the group but *shrug*

I need an explanation for your fascination with my ranger read.

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I am confused. Can you rephrase?

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Titus am I doing anything wrong by you here? would you prefer if I were doing something else rn?

[RadiantCowbells]

I am doing my best to scum hunt. I feel like you are unhappy with me regardless of whatever alignment either of us are and if you're resentful of something that I'm doing in this game I'd like to know.

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Do you want me to replace out?

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Not OK with a texcat lynch rn.

Ranger is conftown to you and wants LQ. I want LQ.

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I don't townread you rn titus. talk to me about that.

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VOTE: Texcat

fine.

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@LQ, Really, I planned since start of day to claim 1-shot cop as scum? Lmao.

I'd believe it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Transcend/Smither still makes sense without LQ ftr.

Just putting that out there in case this doesn't go well today.

[RadiantCowbells]

Transcend/Smither still makes sense without LQ ftr.

Just putting that out there in case this doesn't go well today.

VOTE: RC

Why do you have to be scum in our last game together?

I am not scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Titus, why did you check Ranger?

[RadiantCowbells]

You said they had crumbed. IF you thought they had crumbed they would be a likely nightkill target.

I would have expected you to, like, target me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Titus, if you had a mod confirmation that I was town in this game what would you want to say to me?

[RadiantCowbells]

That's supremely unhelpful and not likely to cause me to change any of my reads.

Even if you're town I think Smither is still scum.

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Different tac: if I'm still mod confirmed town, how is my play making you feel about me and in general?

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You're not answering my question.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am town.

if you know that for a fact, what do you want to say to me here?

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I'm asking you to reach out to me. I am town. just pretend if you have to.

[RadiantCowbells]

Everyone thinks I'm scum every game that I've played the last few months.

I am town, leave me alone.

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If I'm right about Titus/LQ/Smither then between the massclaim and me either being alive or nightkilled I sincerely doubt that they end up winning in endgame. people will figure out that I was right.

I would prefer to lynch Smither as the acid test of my current reads but since you all are fighting me like fuck I can't do that so I'm just going to lynch someone who might be scum if my reads are wrong.

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OK. Vote Smithereens with me?

[RadiantCowbells]

Can I have a sentence or 3 on why he's scum pretty please? Apologies if you did this and I missed it.


I get that you're RC and you're awesome but I'd be as stupid as my dad thinks I am if I blindly sheeped.

If I am scum right now I am bussing. pinkie promise.

[RadiantCowbells]

Can I have a sentence or 3 on why he's scum pretty please? Apologies if you did this and I missed it.


I get that you're RC and you're awesome but I'd be as stupid as my dad thinks I am if I blindly sheeped.

If I am scum right now I am bussing. pinkie promise.

sigh you hate explaining things don't you

Hey remember my first Newbie game when you subbed in and both of your guaranteed scumreads turned out to be both the Town PRs?

That's why I'm apprehensive.

I remember this. Look, I'm not perfect. I do have a tendency to peg newb PRs as scum because of the way they hide and in fact when I"m scum in newbies PR hunting newer players I scumhunt them exactly how I'd scumhunt as town and the people I think are scum are PRs normally.

I am not beyond 100% certain that Smithereens is scum and I am willing to vote elsewhere. But if I'm wrong I won't know unless we get a scum lynch on a townread or a town lynch on a scumread.

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I don't particularly scumread APF though. Sorry.

I think even if I'm wrong on TItus/LQ Smither is still scum so this is the optimal lynch for me.

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I'm considering LQ/Smith/APF right now.

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I'd feel fine about an RC or dav lynch. Can we go that way?

This is back to being a priority lynch.

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APF is only a possibility, Smithereens is the glue to the scumteam.

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Y are you so sure LQ is scum?

Do you think he's actually as braindead as he's acting like he is?

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is town*

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davesaz is obvious town to anyone who knows his meta. stahp.

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VOTE: Smithereens

[RadiantCowbells]

yall are killing me.

[RadiantCowbells]

dav is not scum. stop.

[RadiantCowbells]

still like my vote.

[RadiantCowbells]

Btw, did some ISOs. Reads have changed a lot.

{Zach}
{Titus}
{Ranger}
--
{Umlaut} -- where did he go tho?
--
{APF}
==
{davsaz}
--
{RC, Smith}
{LQ, tex}
---

Game is working a lot more by PoE than I thought it would.


I feel comfortable pushing people in the bottom two rows. I want to see their reactions before I say "I feel comfortable lynching these ____". I also know if we hit scum in the bottom row this game is pretty much solved, imo. This lynch is important.

VOTE: Smithereens

Why are you scumreading me?

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Why are you scumreading me?

PoE, you haven't done anything town.

You haven't really done anything bad either, though. I don't want to lynch you today. You are just bottom of the pile for now because I don't have a concrete read on you and by D2 that freaks me.

were you expecting to have a concrete read on me? cuz you shouldn't.

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selfvote then, go.

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I'm pretty sure Smither's trying to play chicken with me here. I'm not buying in. more votes.

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It seems like Smithers' push on you is the application to himself of the logic he felt Bins should've been following, as articulated in 1288. I'm not too big a fan of that (scum can just say "I believe town should act this way" and preemptively shield themselves for when they do just that), but I don't think that in itself is enough to scumread him. What has he done previously that's scummy?

It's because he's a scumfuck and if he believed in it he would have worded it differently. Vote him or me.

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I think that these wagons may actually be SvS but I still prefer Smithereens wagon to a great extent.

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Everything is going exactly how I'd expect this to go for SvS with LQ as thirdscum.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm picking Smithereens!

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I wish we were seeing eye to eye rn titus but I'm having issues engaging and you're doing nothing to help it.

[RadiantCowbells]

If tex isn't scum town has already lost this game.

VOTE: Texcat

that's a hammer.

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Postie wasn't getting lynched. If it's Postie/Titus/LQ like I think there's a 0% chance that we'll win with towns reads as they are, and every other texcatless scumteam remaining has either Bins or Postie, neither of whom are getting lynched this game with things as they are. If the game hasn't already been lost then I helped town.

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I'll try and get some catch-up stuff in before threadlock.
In case I inexplicably die - LQ is town. RC is probably also town but I have no idea why.

scumclaim.

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Sorry Titus.

*hugs*

[RadiantCowbells]

Tentative VOTE: Postie but I think she would have killed me overnight.

[RadiantCowbells]

ok so we've got guaranteed 3 scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

'finessed'

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VOTE: APF

fuck no.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Postie

I'm going to reread everything before I vote.

[RadiantCowbells]

here's an easy one: there's a below 0% chance that I would have made that nightkill if I were scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

What if scum targeted him N1 and so they knew/suspected he was SK?

I'm going to read for that.

[RadiantCowbells]

fuck yall are awful.

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VOTE: RC

I'm not posting until twilight then you lynch both the people that I tell you to.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Bins

If Bins is town I don't want to lynch scum today.

[RadiantCowbells]

Your read progression on me is the single most awful read progression on myself that I've ever seen. If this is legitimately how you're approaching my slot then I don't care what you have to contribute on anyone else. bye.

[RadiantCowbells]

If I'm right that Bins is scum all her actions make sense and I can put myself in her shoes and understand every decision that she's made this game.

If she's town it's beyond me to even start understanding what her reasoning is or why she's approaching things in the way she is. I am fairly sure that she is scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not unvoting you without a hardclaim and a massclaim.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, and if you had an issue you should have complained when I'm joined. I'm 100% not replacing out for you at this point.

[RadiantCowbells]

No. I've been planning to vote Bins since I saw the Umlaut flip.

I never even fucking voted Titus. Stop letting scum discredit me.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you keep saying you're obvtown maybe it'll make you actually obvtown!

[RadiantCowbells]

Bins, if you say I'm the best scumhunter ever I'll consider switching my vote.

[RadiantCowbells]

At this point I don't give a shit about any of the PRs dying because Ranger is more valuable than any of them so I'm going to say we should massclaim right now.
The claim order is going to be as follows:
{LQ, Postie, APF, Bins, Davesaz, RC, Ranger}

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, and Zach? You literally just claimed that the scumteam is APF/Postie.

Do you believe that the scumteam is APF/Postie? If so, why?

If not, then one of your reads is fucking wrong so stop townreading people who don't fucking deserve it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have my reasons for wanting a massclaim. it's going to happen.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: LQ

It's happening today and no later.

[RadiantCowbells]

I will make a mass claim happen.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean for this game alone.

Things that I wanted:

Texcat lynch.

Things that I didn't want:

Iraonavp lynch.


Now Titus was a shit cop but I'm not losing her another game after the last one. not after I was scumreading her at one point. I do feel like noting that it's pretty fucking obvious that I was townreading her towards the end of the day but whatcanyoudo and the people trying to hold Titus against me are scum. We are massclaiming and we are doing so now.

[RadiantCowbells]

I will make a mass claim happen.

Frankly, IDGAF if you are voting me. That is not a reason to vote someone. What I said ie. not wanting mass claim is not even Scummy, so wtf gives?

I don't think that you get how this works.

I bet you that I will get you lynched, today, if you don't claim.

You can try to have a pissing contest with me that you'll lose and waste half the day and incline myself to lynch you anyway, or you can shut the fuck up and claim. Decision's yours.

[RadiantCowbells]

This isn't claim versus not claim, this is claim right now versus claim when I get you to L-1 and force you to claim. Except if I have to get you to L-1 in the process I might just slip and lynch you anyway cuz you're pissing me off.

[RadiantCowbells]

Town 1-Shit Cop

And yeah. Titus is one shit cop.

[RadiantCowbells]

We are massclaiming today.

If I explain my reasons it will hurt the value of the massclaim.

And fuck if it wouldn't be amazing for town if you got nightkilled.

[RadiantCowbells]

Zac, Davesaz, both of you are town and I need your support with this.

[RadiantCowbells]

Listen.

No matter WHAT the pesron we first L-1 today claims we will have to massclaim when they claim.

We are massclaiming now.

[RadiantCowbells]

Zac just tell people to claim in the order I told them.

We're going to do no scumhunting until this happens and you're letting scum stall the day out.

[RadiantCowbells]

Zac I've had people literally claim to be masons with people that I've been scumreading and they've still been scum so fucking forgive me if I'm not going to drop everything I'm doing to townread Bins.

[RadiantCowbells]

I trust neither your judgement nor alignment. sorry.

[RadiantCowbells]

My judgement got us a serial killer lynch and correctly anticipated that townflip

I also correctly called Jester and got NS lynched in spite of your big time incorrect townread on him.

So even just your experience says that my judgement is to be trusted!

[RadiantCowbells]

In fact the only flip that I didn't anticipate was Umlaut.

But we had a vig to deal with him

LQ claims in his next post or I do not unvote him the remainder of the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I voted IRA because I didn't have time to catch up and Titus wanted the lynch. shush.

[RadiantCowbells]

Postie is still a great scum candidate though! I'm just not voting her because I have better things to do right now.

If there's not going to be a massclaim then I WILL have a who is better at town fight with you and I guarantee you I will win. Stop and massclaim.

[RadiantCowbells]

idc what you think of my scumhunting as long as this massclaim happens. as long as it's not happening I'm going to keep explaining why you should stop not massclaiming and start massclaiming.

[RadiantCowbells]

You don't claim first. you claim when I told you to claim. but you do vote LQ until he does claim.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ranger claims last because she has an inno on her.

[RadiantCowbells]

LQ, Postie, APF, Bins, RC, Dave, Ranger

I am okay with this.

However, if you don't claim Vig I will autolynch you.

[RadiantCowbells]

umm no?

if she's scum then there's a gf and its 1t and her claim won't impact that.

[RadiantCowbells]

oh my god go away.

[RadiantCowbells]

LQ is scum.

I am fine quickhammering him with no claim.

[RadiantCowbells]

I will not be doing anything besides prod dodging while LQ is alive regardless of the massclaim status.

Cheers gentlemen.

[RadiantCowbells]

It's a situation where he's very, very likely to be scum and on the off chance that he's town I really can't be assed to give a shit after how he has been playing this game. bye felicia.

[RadiantCowbells]

Bins stopped pushing on me and LQ didn't.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am perfectly happy being called a poor sport as long as if you're town you admit that you're a poor player. There is no reason whatsoever to scum me right now and tons of reasons to townread me.

[RadiantCowbells]

zach no stop.

[RadiantCowbells]

Bins you don't know my scum meta.

[RadiantCowbells]

You claim to know my meta.

I'm going to ask 5 questions about my meta that anyone with any cursory knowledge of my gameplay would know the answer to.

Post when ready.

[RadiantCowbells]

You have 2 minutes from your next post assuming it's in the next ten minutes.

[RadiantCowbells]

You are still online and posting.

If you haven't responded in 4 minutes I'm interpreting it as you not knowing jack about my meta and acting accordingly.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nm, maybe you logged off.

I will harass you next tim we're both on.

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't you dare hammer unless he doesn't claim in the next 24h.

There's an obvscum who we're lynching today.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not commenting on who it is.

[RadiantCowbells]

Hurry this massclaim the fuck up so we can get to some actual scumhunting.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll consent to it if Ranger does, and if so, she should have the final say on the order.

Postie->LicketyQuickety->a plain farmer->RadiantCowbells->davesaz->Bins is what I'd do.

I am not okay with Davesaz going so late.

I can do LQ->Postie->APF->Davesaz->RC->Bins->Ranger

[RadiantCowbells]

I want this massclaim on the road and I want us to agree to policy lynch anyone who stalls the massclaim by longer than 24H from the point of LQ claiming onward.

This needs to happen.

[RadiantCowbells]

Zac, bins, readlists.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm assuming you're just writing Daves and Bins off as town because of their supposed PR claims? They aren't actual reads?

[RadiantCowbells]

OK I'm going to ignore Zac's reads the rest of the game probably. That readslist is just disgusting from confirmed town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not really, and after that readslist I think it is quite fortuitous for my blood pressure that I haven't been.

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

jfc you are the worst conftown ever.

[RadiantCowbells]

Bins you just called the entire game town, besides me who could be scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, and APF. So real not happy about your reads atm.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have nothing to say about who is scum from here to the point where the massclaim is finished.

[RadiantCowbells]

Postie, reads list please.

[RadiantCowbells]

No. If we don't do the massclaim today I'm lynching in Bins/Davesaz without exception.

[RadiantCowbells]

Stop your grinnin and drop your linen.

[RadiantCowbells]

We are massclaiming. Stop fighting me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Shut the fuck up don't let bins worm her way out of this massclaim. make it happen.

[RadiantCowbells]

What the fuck is that hyperbole? How does your role getting revealed autowin the game for scum. For fucks sake you can't actually believe that that's a thing. Stop with your crap and let's do the massclaim.

[RadiantCowbells]

Massclaim is happening while I am alive and this is 100% non-negotiable. If you're town quit obsessing over whatever shitty pr you got and stop being a stick in the mud and trying to derail this.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am not happy until the entire game has massclaimed.

[RadiantCowbells]

You claim full cop? OK. What were your results?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm trying to get a massclaim to happen and you're calling it fishing. okay.

Full or 1-Shot vig?

[RadiantCowbells]

Nothing in this game is stronger than a full cop or a full vigilante. You could perhaps argue masons?

[RadiantCowbells]

Lol shoo.

[RadiantCowbells]

Doctor strongest role in game like wut.

Hardclaim, go.

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay, you claim full doctor. Agreed?

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry.

Okay, the massclaim is officially underway. Everyone is to hardclaim in their next post, any future attempts to change your claim will result in an automatic lynch.

I claim VT.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am fine with you stalling your target claims until after everyone else has claimed, ftr. This needs to get on with so we can get going with actual scumhunting though.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am fine with Davesaz claiming next.

...Why would Davesaz scum be well fucking played exactly?