Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)
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Why do you keep voting against yourself? What purpose does it serve?In post 63, Alisae wrote:
Mew.In post 62, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Stop being silly babeIn post 57, Alisae wrote:
Uzi you never responded to this.In post 24, Alisae wrote:
When you rollout your RVS votes you attract me.In post 22, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Attract and Roll Out were a bitch.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
Gonna go back on my own wagon now cuz I dunno what a Kuriboh is, yet I changed my avatar to it. I must be a dirty liar. All Liars Must be Lynched.
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@Mala post 100 is not Hawk's.In post 124, Malakittens wrote:
So I am liking Hawk for this post, however, I don't like Hawk for his read posts in 100.
I like the fact he got the game from RVS into :serious mode:.
Also tbh, I didn't like Hawk saying that his vote on Alisae, someone he considers is a soft town lean, was a way of getting us out of RVS. Usually we just transition out of RVS phase, we don't require someone to officially announce it.
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In post 168, Kop wrote:In post 163, Alisae wrote:Kop that's fair.
But sofar I like how he's pressuring Mala. Seems genuine and a town thing to do.
VOTE: Mala
This post stinks of a full 180 turn towards Hawk.
I don't have any issues with her vote changes so early in the game. I would be more concerned if she is just sticking to her initial vote and not ready to change as she gets more information. Isn't it too early to talk about 'different camps'.In post 209, Kop wrote:
It's not dumb, it's a valid question. We need to find out the correct stance she is taking, because at the moment, we don't know what position she is taking on the whole situation, one minute she is in this camp, then the next post, she's in a different camp.In post 185, innocentvillager wrote:dumb questions are scummy
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What is the relevance of a discussion on a player who is not involved in this game???In post 269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Transcend's a cool dog. Give him another chance.In post 266, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
The last game i played with him he soft claimed the lead mafia role, self hammered when he was at L-1, and flipped some type of town PR like watcher or tracker. I wont play another game with him personally.In post 256, innocentvillager wrote:
lolIn post 225, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Listen, Transcend is in a class with some players like Kain Tepes that we called the "WTF zone". They break the mold and are uncontrollable. IV is not one of these.
i promise, i am no transcend
i think i my most recent game he deathtunneled me with zero reasoning and lost us the game -_--
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@Lil The question was more directed at Crystalline Dagger. I did an ISo on him and apart from post 222 most of his posts have been irrelevant. They are either hydra clarifying themselves, about Pokemon, about Transcend or about the 'water washy' thing. I know it is an RVS, Crystalline, but do some kind of scumhunting else it looks as if you are just trying to look involved.
Also his one original post 222, he says 218 of IV made him thing IV was a scum. I actually felt 218 made IV lean more towards town. It seems as if he is trying subtly join the IV wagon.
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From the time i last posted to.now. there hasnt been much quality. If you find it inorganic, i dont know what to say. But i get what you are saying about the forced thing. You feel as if am trying to force a catchup that could possibly help me in making Alisae remove her vote.
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First, Alisae and Aelin. You both asked me my reasons for initially voting against IV. Please have a look at the posts IV posted prior to me voting against him. If they are not ambiguous, I don't know what is. He came in at Post 135 and this was all he could muster as a catchup till 185. I thought he was purposefully being non-committal.In post 212, Spade_Ace wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager
Not liking his posts so far. They all seem ambiguous.
In post 136, innocentvillager wrote:Malta is scumIn post 137, innocentvillager wrote:Mala is scum
Hawk is town
Alis is town
Don't ask me to justify these yet these are just gut, I'll let you guys know when to take my opinions seriously if I can find reasoningIn post 139, innocentvillager wrote:Wow dudes I don't know this game idk what to think
Getting mixed vibes all aroundIn post 170, innocentvillager wrote:
take a wild guessIn post 152, Aubrey wrote:
What happened here? You went from what seemed like somewhat sturdy guy reads to being vexed all around.In post 139, innocentvillager wrote:Wow dudes I don't know this game idk what to think
Getting mixed vibes all around
VOTE: aubreyIn post 185, innocentvillager wrote:dumb questions are scummy-
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For questions asked by IV, Kop and Aubrey. Post 218 was IV's first quality post and the reason I town read him for that is:
I could relate to this, cos in my only Newbie game, the IC who later turned out to be scum, did the exact same thing. And she was easily scum read for that. You can check it.In post 218, innocentvillager wrote:hmm mostly gut
your next post 124 or something seemed like a lot of IC-garbage that I would post as an IC which felt unnecessary here since this isn't a newbie, but maybe you're just doing this out of habit and some of these players feel inexperienced in a way
feels like you're trying too hard to "note things that stick out to you but you're not sure why yet", but i don't really see you ever returning to those things that stuck out to you (correct me if im wrong and you did). i like to do this shit as scum bc it makes me seem more organic, but of course they're not so i forget about them and never bring them up again
Your reads on Hawk and Alisae seemed similar to mine.In post 218, innocentvillager wrote:
also rereading hawk from early pages makes me weary of that slot. like wtf was that reaction test on alisae? "im voting you Alisae" next post "this is a reaction test alisae, how do you react" like wat. Not scummy but just weirdly not thought out. idk hawk gives me mixed vibes bc he's does scummy unhelpful shit like this but is also towntelling weirdly to some degree
i still think i like alisae for town
In Post 150 I mentioned the fact that I didn't like what Hawk was doing but I also didn't vote for him cos I didn't feel it was a scumtell.
In Post 211,I mention why I have no issues with Alisae's vote change and that I would have found it to be scummy otherwise.
So is it not natural to town read a person with whom you agree?? So, yes this changed my view on IV.-
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Apart from that, I townread him for questioning me too. I could understand why IV thought my catchup looked forced. Alisae had just voted against me and my reply could have seemed as a scum trying to throw shade on others.
My issue with Dagger was that I used to all kinds of such irrelevant stuff as a scum during my Whatsapp Mafia days and rarely used to get called out on that. He has posted 26 messages and I felt only 222 was the only one with content. So yes, too many irrelevant and ambiguous posts is something that is scummy to me. This was his post 222.
I didn't think either 218 or 220 warranted a vote change by Dagger and combined with the irrelevant stuff he has been posting, I thought of voting against him.In post 222, Crystalline Dagger wrote:This whole game i have been focused on discerning the scum from the town and trying to improve my player reading skill. Its been kind of hard for me but then i got to post 218 and thought, that is it, there has to be scum between IV and Mala because they wouldnt exchange like that if both were scum and it doesn't make sense if both are town because i then got to post 220 and it made it clear that IV isnt town in my eyes. The way IV shrugs off the suggestion that they make it clear which posts they are responding to looked scummy to me. How can someone just not care about whether or not their posts are clear and understood? How can a town aligned player not care if he makes the town as a whole more confused and in a roundabout way essentially leave the town with less information? For now my vote rests on IV.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: InnocentVillager
I will go through their ISO now that i have a concise read and know how i feel about them.
~Jin~
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In post 315, Aelin wrote:Both Spade and IV ping me a bit, but Spade more so.
He constantly is calling the case on him null and void and blames his scumminess on inactivity, which is not the case at all.
Is Spade's vote still just on CD from RVS?
I also want to read through Mala's iso because at first I was getting scum vibesIn post 316, Aelin wrote:
Very quick to jump on there weren't you?In post 212, Spade_Ace wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager
Not liking his posts so far. They all seem ambiguous.
Aelin, I am not liking any of your posts to be honest. Your read on me seemed quite opportunistic. Few questions.In post 318, Aelin wrote:
Spade then proceeds to completely ignore this case and shade AlisaeIn post 297, innocentvillager wrote:the reason you change your vote to be on someone should be because you actually noticed something significant that points in the direction of them being scum
You've been called out for not providing content lately, started getting some suspicion on you. All you've really done this game is clarify, engage in irrelevant discussion, talk about merits of RVS and stuff, and at one point you literally voted me for like "ambiguous posts". Is that a legitimate reason to vote someone?
Here, you're calling out Crystalline for 1) irrelevant posting, which a. you yourself do and b. is completely null 2) you townread me for a post they scumread me for.
I cannot buy that as a logical, real genuine thought out town process for switching a vote. Your scumtells and follow-up votes have so far all been based on "ambiguity and irrelevance", which are in no way significant scumtells and I doubt town!you would've actually had these thoughts organically arise.
1) When did I throw shade on Alisae???
2) Are you suspecting Mala too?
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Just saw this message. Why are you asking me whether I scumread you or not? That makes no sense.
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Guys, sorry, wasnt paying much attention to this game. Was more focused on a thriller that just got over. My previous town game in Open, i attracted way too much attention on day1 and ended up being scumread. My wagon reached L-1 and had to claim. I got killed that night. So i decided it was wiser to be less active this time. It seems whatever i do, am being scumread. Bang, kop, Saj and gamma, whoever isnt scum, please back me up. You have seen my play before.
I have poor reads on everyone, so far. Ill need to go back and read the game again.-
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I think i'll give my reads on everyone in an alphabetical order.
Aelin- Scum lean
- Hasn't changed her RVS vote. Says she suspects IV, Me and Mala but refuses to commit to anyone.
- I felt her initial scum lean on me was kind of convenient. Backs of when questioned.
- In Post 352 she says she understands my reasons for suspecting dagger. But in Post 488 says she still scum leans me.
- Didn't like the way she cleared Mala as town based on a weird reaction test. Post 366
- Didn't give reasons for townreading Uzi. Post 364
- Having said that, her style of play is somewhat consistent. Last game too she gave reads but didn't explain the reasons.
@Aelin who do you prefer seeing lynched today?
Alisae - NULL
- Is the most active player.
- Seems to be giving off reads and changing her vote often without being concerned about how they are perceived. Scum would fear appearing inconsistent.
- Post 201 gives a town vibe.
- But I didn't like Post 437 at all. Seems BS to me. Needs to explain it further.
- Post 465. Scum would NEVER hammer on day 1 in a 12 person game.
- Understood the Post 457 reference. So can understand why she wanted a wagon on me. But do note I react to wagons badly, irrespective of my alignment.
@alisae Respond to Post 453 and Post 472. Also do you scumread or townread daggers?
Aubrey - Town Lean
- Second most active player. Seems to be doing his fair share of scumhunting. Provides reasons and explains his thoughts. Is calling out people on their inconsistencies
- But at times he appears to be buddying up to people. Took too much effort in explaining the transcend issue to me. And explaining the 'spoliers' to bang. Might be trying to act like an IC.
- But other than that, am not able to find anything that stands out scummy
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She seems to have bread crumbed (stuff I have marked in green). It can either be:In post 191, Malakittens wrote:I haven't yet decided how I lean on the three you mentioned so far. I liked the Hawk getting us out of RVS, but I don't like his early reads.
Yes KT and IV will both be pia reads for me.
Maybe they will be vigged for my sanity.In post 155, Hawk wrote:Aubrey and Spade: Self-vote in RVS from Alisae to me is an engage me vote not nesscarily null. IME it's often town looking to start ppl talking, accidentally start a wagon, or in general just be different and standout during RVS. So I engaged wanting to see what he had to say.
1) An innocent random town post: If so why did she go to the extra efforts of making the size small.
2) It is a Vig soft claim. If it is, then it is a DUMB DUMB Obvious one. Cos i noticed ryt away while doing the ISO.
3) It is a scum, who wants to later claim she was a Vig. And show proof that she had already breadcrumbed.
4) She is directing the vig to kill someone.
@Mala please explain. If you are indeed Vig then Scum would have definitely noticed it and is purposefully quite about it.-
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Mala - Scum Lean (keeping aside Post 522)
On first glance, she gives off a no nonsense townish vibe. Strong opinions, curt replies, mentions what she likes, dislikes. But her statements resemble a lot like the Scum!IC in my newbie game who gave such similar responses.
-Her Post 370, is word by word, the excuse used by the IC to not explain her reads and survive day1.
-Her questioning Alisae on whether English was her first language or not. Felt that was an unwarranted attack aimed at discrediting someone. This was in response to Alisae's vote on her.
-Her vote on Alisae, Post 489, and her not providing a reason when asked to.
-She makes it certain to everyone that she is the most experienced among the lot. Post 368. Granted it was in response to the reaction test, but still seems as if she is saying "I know what I am doing and don't question"
-Statements like: "So I am liking Hawk for this post, however, I don't like Hawk for his read posts in 100."
maybe I am bit biased because of a similar experience but this is my read-
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10 pages since I last posted. How? I just posted yesterday evening
Really bang, really?? Maybe if you weren't busy playing scum last game you would have seen what was discussed. Check Game Link 1. Check the next post too. Gamma clearly mentions, any bold texts /In post 801, bangthemafia wrote:@Spade, yoy have still not completed your reads list. And your whole "wait, OMG, i just noticed Mala's breadcrumb" made me completely cringe when I read it.
Just few weeks back, in Open 657, I thought we discussed this with MDS that breadcrumbs are breadcrumbs bcoz the original player doesnt want to openly announce that. So it must be revealed by only the Original player. You never say hey see what that guy is trying to hide!
With this background, what were you thinking when you exposed that breadcrumb. Especially since it was a Vig claim according to you, how did a town!you think you are helping town? We dont have a doc in this setup so there was no way Vig could be protected. JKing vig would protect him but lose his ability to shoot down scum, right? So please explain why you exposed a breadcrumb.writing patternsthat is obvious needs to be shared. This was super obvious to me. When the vig is exposed to town (that is town also knows who vig is and not just scum), it entails a bit of WIFOM (the JK may protect may not protect). Which is better than a certain scum kill according to me.
Ohh crap. It looks like Gamma has modified his original wikki article, Wikki, to include the term, "if the person is close to being lynched". Thanks for making me look stupid, Gamma.-
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Answer for thatIn post 593, Hawk wrote:You let up off ofSpade to Vote Mala after spades read which is super oppurtunistically of Spade anyway since he was going alphabetically he just skips me and Kop and goes for his Mala read?
In post 509, KainTepes wrote:SPADE,, respond on MALAKITTENSIn post 522, Malakittens wrote:Another thing is spade still got a pass for not answering about his read on me. This post feels like a distraction.
@Hawk I wonder why I magically decided to give a mala read out of nowhereIn post 562, Hawk wrote: 528 Mala's reasoning actually to me makes pretty good sense. Spade seems to be role fishing a bit here, and despite what he was saying this entire post feels like a distraction as to what was originally asked of him.-
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@Alisae Check Post 335 Have already responded to that. If you have an issue with the response then mention that. Stop posting the same thing again.In post 547, Alisae wrote:In post 278, Alisae wrote:
Is it just me, or does this post seem very opportunistic.In post 212, Spade_Ace wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager
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@Hawk confirmation bias much?? Did you check out the very first sentence on my Mala read?
I didn't know what to make of the breadcrumb issue, didn't clearly understand Mala's response to it and everyone seemed to think it was a bad idea. So I 'kept that aside' from my read. I gave a scumlean way before Kain claimed Vig. How is this being opportunistic? Also unlike everyone else I dont believe exposing breadcrumbs is anti-town.
Also explain to me how I am distancing myself from Aelin? She is clearly dragging me down with her. I have been calling her out on her convenient scumread from the start.
Hawk I am starting to really not like you. You simply used Alisae's argument,Post 555 against me. Your breadcrumb issue was already explained in detail by Kop and bang. Do you not have any original thoughts or arguments??
Also, what is the deal with everyone about my reads.
Scum - Aelin, Mala
Scum leaning - Alisae, hawk
NULL -IV, CD, bang, Lil
Town - Aubrey, Kop, Kain
Expected CD to be defensive against my accusations. He simply didn't care. Quite indifferent throughout the game.
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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Breadcrumb
"scum have been known to breadcrumb roles as well; if the role they breadcrumbed became inconvenient to claim, they simply do not point them out later. Last, an obvious breadcrumb will draw the scum's attention and place that player at the top of the list of players they have an interest in killing overNight."
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Enough with this. Do i need to spell it out for you.
1) I DIDNT scumlean mala based on the breadcrumb. It was due to her nature of play which greatly resembled the scum!IC in my newbie game. Mala's response had NOTHING to do with my scumlean. I specifically kept aside the breadcrumb issue while making a read.
2) Spot a breadcrumb, immediately announce it. This was kinda imbibed in my mind based on my previous open game, check Game Link 1.
3) If you are phone posting, it was super obvious. I initially thought, Vig!Mala had made a super dumb breadcrumb and it was imp for JK to know that. Or else she was directing the vig or she was scum laying out a defense plan. Either way, at that moment, I thought it was imp town knew about that.
4) In hindsight, yes, it was better I left it out.
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Read Post 844In post 885, Aelin wrote:
This. Is. Still. Fucking. RelevantIn post 816, Aelin wrote:Spades finish your reads list
Why are you not voting for anyone?
Aelin townreads Mala based on something random.
Mala votes for Alisae but doesn't explain why.
Mala has no comments on Aelin.
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In post 425, innocentvillager wrote:will check in at some ptIn post 566, innocentvillager wrote:So I don't have time to read through carefully everything that's happened in the last 10 ish pages holy shit. But, if there are specific things you guys want me to look at that are particularly relevant, I'd be happy to answer.
Ask away bitchesIn post 897, innocentvillager wrote:yeah same kinda? yall post so much hard to keep up fuck me
If you can't catchup. Then replace out.In post 898, innocentvillager wrote:im honestly so bad at reading through a lot of pages and actually getting useful info can someone plz give me the sparknotes and ask me to address certain things-
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I agree.In post 905, innocentvillager wrote:
not scum rxn.In post 903, Alisae wrote:
This made me laugh and smile a lot. Quite frankly it seems as if I am the only person that understands that.In post 902, innocentvillager wrote:your wagon is shit alisae i don't need to read through 25 pages of bullshit to realize that-
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I think her intentions were nobler than you give credit. As a VT she would have known that by claiming JK, she would be an instant kill target for the scum. She could have been hoping that scum would waste their shot on her. Might not have anticipated JK not protecting KT. But still, a bad move.In post 1025, KainTepes wrote:alisae is frustrating because even when he is town the way he plays is always to preserve himself and never to town win condition,,-
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So sorry for not posting. Got completely caught up IRL. My thoughts so far. Some have already been mentioned.
1) Why was LUV chosen? Scum must have reaslised that if JK chooses not to protect KT, then JK would most likely protect one of their top town reads and KT would kill one of his top scumreads. So I guess it makes sense to choose someone was neither too townish nor too scummy. He also wasn't a lurker and was contributing regularly.
2) Associations.
It doesn't make much sense for both scum to bus Aelin on Day 1 (possible but not that probable). So there is a pretty good chance for one of Mala, Kop and IV to flip red.
Mala - I have already mentioned my case against her in Day1. In Day2 she accuses IV post 1070 of doing exactly what she did to Bang post 996. It is clear that she is reading the thread and has time to post repeatedly on why 'she can't post'. I understand being caught up IRL but I don't think its asking too much to have at least 'one proper reads' post per mafia day or to explain the reasons for voting someone. But it is also rather worrisome that she is not even bothering to defend herself when she is a viable lynch suspect.
IV - I was okay with his contributions in the first half of day1. But then he disappeared and When he came back all he said was, 'there are too many posts for me to read'. In Day2, he is quick to defend himself when someone accuses him. But he has still not provided any worthwhile content other than a half-hearted attempt at accusing Bang.In post 1003, Hawk wrote: IV didn't vote but he also didn't Hammer when Alisae was at L-1 So I don't think he's scum...
Hawk and Bang mention in their initial posts that IV is not scummy because he didn't hammer. That is exactly what scum would do. After all, the game doen't end on Day 1. If they hammer, they know they would look scummy.In post 1088, bangthemafia wrote: IV is otherwise quite scummy to me. What saves him in my eyes is the only fact that he did not hammer Alissae when he cud easily have
@IV Yes inactivity =/= being a scum. But it is anti-town.
Kop - I have nothing against him actually. Except for his post 1079. He says he finds it suspicious how quickly the wagon on Mala formed. But then proceeds to vote against me, someone who was not on the wagon
Am ruling out (Mala, Kop) scumteam for now. I don't think all 3 scum would vote to lynch Alisae. Mala and Kop are both experienced players and they wouldn't want the heat to be on both of them on just day 2. It is either Mala or Kop.
(Mala, IV) scumteam also seems less likely. As they have both been relatively inactive in the second half of Day1 and in Day2. Scum would want to control the narrative at least to some extent and appear as if they are contributing. So it is either Mala or IV.
It is highly probable that one scum would have bussed Aelin to get some town cred. Scum lean on Aelin wagon is CD/Bang. CD for obvious reasons. Bang, as scum, is a player who can pretend to be town very well. But I don't want to lynch either of them today.
Am okay with either Mala or IV lynch. But I think Mala is the best lynch option today. If she flips red we can eliminate Kop and IV from suspect list.
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@hawk there might be a slight delay. Mod has IRL issues.In post 1123, The MM wrote:IRL issues are going to kick in shortly. I apologize right now for any future lackings.
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^^^This.In post 1168, Hawk wrote:
KT has to shoot if we misLynch today. Because it's the only way we get to F3 if that happens. If we Lynch Mafia He should shoot as well since it's 4v1 going into final 4. A good shot ends the game a bad shot sends us to final 3.
Irrespective of what happens today, KT should definitely use his vig shot tonight.
If we manage to lynch scum today, night starts with 4v1. Suppose KT doesn't use his kill. D4 begins with 3v1. If we mislynch, then the game is lost. 2v1 is def better than 3v1 for D4.-
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Leaning towards Kop or CD lynch, preferably Kop. Cos it makes sense for one scum to be outside Aelins wagon.
@Hawk backup role cop is right now a VT for all practical purposes.
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