Open 668 - Diffusion of Power [Game Over]

[notscience]

Hi.

[notscience]

I want to say something about the 3 votes on me, but really I can't say anything. I mean it is obv rvs wagon don't know what reaction I am supposed to give.

Why do you feel like you have to react in a certain way

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My question is moreso why do you care how you react?

Scum are more self concious and worried about how they come across

So you being concerned over the right way to respond to the wagon is sketchy as shit

[notscience]

Why do you care if you look pro-town or not

because he's scum

Hello everybody, new player here. I hope we have a fun game.

VOTE: chilledtea
I prefer Icetea

This post is not alignment indicative and the only post in necta's iso. I refuse to believe this gives you a scum lean.

to be fair I have scumread people (correctly) for saying "Hi."

so

tr necta

^

snip

This reads like iioa and your trying to control PRs is dumb and this is the one warning you get

It reads like newb town. After reading it I looked at his join date expecting it to be recent, but it isn't. That's problematic.

He's stereotypical lynchbait. I know I've played with him before but cba to go figure out which games, but I remember him being annoying as shit

It might have been WTP2

Persivul and KT are my main scum reads as of right now, but that is obviously subject to change as people start posting more. I can't lay my finger on it, but Persivul reeks experienced scum. I'll find a better way to put into words my thoughts about him later. As for KT, Post #129 (ISO #17) was a pretty weak case. I see what he's saying about Trans being short and vague, but that's almost too easy of a target to jump on because he doesn't provide a ton of context. I think 129 was an attempt to look town by going on the offensive, but it was a weak case and an easy target; Trans is who I would go after if scum,

This is so non-commital

Why are you scared of commitment

I spend 30 minutes doing an ISO analysis giving my thoughts on a player and i get called a newb and scum


I'mhonestly done

This reads as fake tbh

(I've spent 11 hours on walls before. So.)

There's nothing else to do right now

._.

because he knows I'm town*


Yeah, I'll claim now because of that lol. I'm town N-1 Doctor. If there is any way for me to prove myself tonight, I'll gladly do it.

lmao

Why did you feel the need to claim so early

Texcat and KT are both lynchbait iirc

Blawb is playing way too noncommital and is wy too kneejerky for my liking

Mixed feelings re creature

Liked chilledtea's flipout

Don't like the fearmongering over experience, think at least one scum in the mix

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That entire wallpost

It was essentially summarizing every post in trans's iso to look busy

It could be that he doesn't actually know how properly analyze an ISO.

KT's posts where he was calling for investigatives to follow exactly what he said, I hate. At worst he's town who thinks he knows better than other town, at best he's scum who is trying to send someone on a wild goose chase. All it does it cloud things and make it more annoying for anyone trying to decide who to target

[notscience]

VOTE: Blawb

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I will take anyone claiming N1 cop as a scumclaim.

That being said,

Blawb's vote on Pers slot is godawful.

[notscience]

UNVOTE:

Hold on, I'm thinking newbtown.

[notscience]

Attention

Any dicussion regarding the reasons behind Persivul's replace out is not relevant at this point in time. There is no "Maybe there was an alternative reason, he must be upset he got found out!," because most games have rules (and iirc people have been banned before) for strategic replace outs. Any line of questioning regarding that is out of Penguin's power to defend. (To that point, pretty much everything Pers did penguin can't really atone for. They share a slot therefore the read should be based off of both.)

This is the last I want to hear of that line of thought.

pedit-

Because there is literally NO reason to claim cop at this point in time. Like real shit, someone claims N1 cop now, says they will inv blawb, blawb dies and we get no valid proof down the line. People need to crumb their targets well so we can look for this shit LATER, because it is too easy for scum to claim a cop and coast off of "oh well scum must have just thought I would be protected"

Nope.

Nuh uh.

Not buying that shit.

[notscience]

Blawb have you played on other sites

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Town-
TTTT
Penguin
Creature
Trans
Chilled
KT
blawb
arona

meh
Texcat
Kyouko

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DVM
pepto

[notscience]

None of this is really true.
A claimed cop doesn't have to say who they're going to investigate.
A claim now gives us information we can use down the line.

Claiming early just gives scum a guideline on who to kill, particularly if the setup is more cops than doctors.

So no.

Crumb shit, if you die and you crumbed your shit right we will be fine.

[notscience]

VOTE: pep

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I'm poeing that wasnt in any real order

[notscience]

ARona's my only one who could move down one tbh

I didn't really hate persivul, I think the experience thing is moronic (bc I have more experience and noone has pulled that shit and noone has pulled that shit on DVM, I think people were scumreading him bc he was trying to be productive and do things amidst a playerlist that's sitting around with its thumb up its ass).

Sooooooo

I think blawb is newbtown

I think KT is town but if he keeps up his woe is me thing in later days lynch him bc its scum excuse to not do anything

chilled prob town, re:his confbias and yada yada

you and creature are town bc I looked at your isos and decided you can be town

necta was town as shit TTTT just absorbed it

texcat and kyouko are both meh because that is how i feel about them

meh

I didn't like subutai and I don't like pep

[notscience]

I'm trying to decide if i like those explanations or not

Also i didn't really ask for explanations yet you directed them at me

bc I am scum who feels the need to explain myself so you dont try to lynch me

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I'm done arguing setup with you, DVM.

If the cop wants to claim, it's their head, not mine.

But stop wasting my time arguing over this shit when you should be trying to discern my alignment.

[notscience]

Ask me what I didn't like about sub trans

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Hey KT

Buddy

Want to tell me what changed from this game?

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I do not like subutai because they tried to act like they were a newbie trying to discern the setup and so worried about the setup and they were an alt! I think it was a fake act to make us ignore him. I also think his comments about KT's 129 being excellent analysis is lolsy and trying to buddy him

pedit-

lmao

Whatever you say bucko

[notscience]

Some thoughts so far:

Blawb is pretty much confirmed town at this point. I did not really care for chilldtea's reaction to the RVS votes on him, though I can see that coming from both town and scum.

I have town vibes from both transcend and creature. I've played with both of them on my main account (secret for now) and this seems to be their town play rather than their scum play so far.

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Actually I change my mind on blawb too

I feel like scum him likes to use "experienced scum" to bullshit reads

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Yeah Im flipping around and thinking blawb is scum

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

He basically uses calling someone experienced scum and "not being able to put his finger on it" as a reason to scumread them up until he has to NK them

Look at what he does here, its literally the same exact thing

lmao

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well not kill but the first part

VOTE: blawb

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My first thought upon looking at his other games and seeing he had no scumgames was that this was his first town game and he was nervous town hence the early claim and the focus on being confirmed because its so fucking weird that he is so focused on being confirmed but it makes sense kinda to me bc I used to be someone where I could look to a few choice people and be like "k they called me town I'm confirmed lata losers" and I would focus on that but that was after building up some rapport with them

[notscience]

Voting scum what are you doing

Oh right

chainsawing

carry on

[notscience]

Maybe an overexaggeration

but accurate nonetheless

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Trans how does blawb/pep/dvm sound to you

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idk man I'm feeling kinda good about it I think the lynchbait is elsewhere

I want to understand KT's angst a bit more and make sure it's not a scum facade

But something about that team just rolls off the tongue

[notscience]

Dvm why are you defending blawb,

your strongest scumread

so hard?

Ftfy

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Idk trans maybe he's right

we should give blawb a day

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VOTE: dvm

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I feel like I'm going to give the mod a headache

pedit-

Please, discredit more

tia

- No headache here, vote away. I can keep up at a rate of 14.5 votes per minute. (not a figure substantiated by testing)

[notscience]

Yes I am clearly impaired by my emotions and have not brought forward actual reasons why your slot is scum

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I don'wanna lynch DVM
Why is everybody forgetting how scummy Peng's slot is?

Because one of the big things that people have been using to describe him is the same thing blawb-scum uses to push fake paranoia in past games?

[notscience]

penguin I have a great way for you to get towncred

vote the scum w/ me!

pedit-

PLS PENG

[notscience]

He likes to guard blawb
The highest guy on his list
And he kicks puppies

[notscience]

You must not forget
That discredits are the thing
He did when voted

[notscience]

Im using said poem to lynch scum

[notscience]

Meanwhile, as the game stagnates.

Lets get this show on the road, folks.

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Different people who have the exact same benxhmark when it comes to reading scum, on one account that has played in newbie games (where shared accounts arent allowed)

Uh huh

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Go ctrl f experienced in the newbie game then tell me where my logic is wrong

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Thats the point im trying to make

He used it as scum as a way to pass off paranoia on a more experienced player

No way these are "different people" when shared accounts arent usable in newbie games, and its the same reason everyone is up in arms over persivul who really wasnt that bad, people just kept using the same term over and over as a form of paranoia resulting in everyone calling him scum for some reason

[notscience]

Dvms protection over him despite blawb being his highest scumread is sketchy as shit too

[notscience]

Lurkerscum will never not be focused, creature.

Im lynching the scum im 90% sure you guys will ignore after im dead

I am willing to negotiate, your vote on him today for my vote on pepto tomorrow.

Unless you have reasons to think hes town, which I would love to hear.

Btw flubber if you want free towncred vote dvm tia

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Dvms protection over him despite blawb being his highest scumread is sketchy as shit too

So, I loved the haiku and all, but I'm not seeing DVM scum. While not too fond of his 390, 406, and 455; he hasn't really defended Blawb without reason. And, while part of me thinks he just wants to out an N1 cop he's being fairly logical in his reasoning for it, and the only danger would be if Blawb and DVM are both scum. Even then, it would be a bad trade because we would power lynch Blawb D2 in that circumstance.

Ive already said i think them being scum together is the case.

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Real shit, dvm

If you are town and this is all you intend to do then why the fuck are you even here? Like literally all youve done is try to be a dick and pretend youre the smartest guy in the room. You have spent more time arguing theory and discrediting than actually scumhunting. You dont want to lynch blawb snd you obv dont want yourself lynched but rather than try to work with people all you are doing is shitting all over them and its not cool. Actually try to get someone lynched, get off your high horse and have a dialogue that doesnt involve condescension and maybe you will get somewhere.

If you are scum, then find a strategy that doesnt cement your death next time.

[notscience]

I know I have an ego but I am one of the easiest people in the world to read and i actually work with my townreads, but none of this playerlist seems to give a shit and none of the typical people i link up with are here. Thats why i have to strongarm everything. Its why I am going o die tonight and this game will turn into a massive lurkfest. If you are town you need to stop being a dick and show me you are town. I need someone to take the reigns when I get killed tonight.

[notscience]

There are rules against replacing out for tactical advantages. People have been banned for it before.

So no.

I said it once, I'll say it again.

You look like someone who has resigned to being lynched.

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I think Pepchoninga is way more likely to flip scum.

Let's see if DVM has anything to bring to the table. I'm toying with the idea of lynching pep, but I don't want to take DVM off the table without a reason to.

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how about you tell me why he's scum first

I asked first but ok...

trying too hard to be PowerTown^TM

and ok the blawb "experienced" find was townish

but why move off it to vote blawb's defender?

This is what I do. Go big or go home, you don't see anyone else trying to run this show. This game is flaccid.

Did you read that line of posts in context? I've also explained that town isn't likely to forget lurker scum (which both blawb and pep are being).

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It's really weird seeing you being more irritated than irritating

I'm like 95% sure our first game together was PvZ where I just fluffed up the place.

So I mean, yeah.

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I'd rather lynch DVM than Pep.

As would I,currently. But if you read in context, I said I was willing to consider pep if DVM could bring something non-discreditty and non-setupy to the table and I liked what he had to say.

[notscience]

I must fight my sarcastic urges.

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I like flubber.

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I feel like all hes done is kiss ass

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Lmao

[notscience]

Can someone explain to me why there is a counterwagon with two of the three people on my scumteam pushing it

[notscience]

There sure is a handy dandy ISO button, and your slot is conveniently 60% of what I've talked about!

[notscience]

Or we can talk about your "oh its diffusion of power"

Like you couldnt tell from your role (hint: If you are town, and your role would have made it pretty fucking obvious what setup it was. You know which role pm doesn't make it obv simply from the title? orite)

Of course it's hard to talk with your lips so firmly planted in everyone's rear's tho

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Spoiler:

creature, whats ur read on me buddy.

VOTE: Blawb

Creature is town.

Like come on transcend, that is so townie.

creature be my second mason buddy.

help me pressure this piece of blawb

Creature Mason buddy let's do shit:
VOTE: Penguin

You know, I realize you seem to have a lot more focus on literally anyone scumreading you. In fact, that is most of your ISO is talking to/about the people scumreading you/voting you. The only person you really interacted with that it doesn't apply for is Transcend who was voting DVM pretty solidly for a while there.

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Nah but let's make a counterwagon onto peng with blawb who apparently is conftown for insisting peng is scum every time he gets prodded and has to bullshit a content post

That's a good idea

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Or we can talk about your "oh its diffusion of power"

Like you couldnt tell from your role (hint: If you are town, and your role would have made it pretty fucking obvious what setup it was. You know which role pm doesn't make it obv simply from the title? orite)

you don't believe i missed that?

Clearly.

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I'm saying it's convenient that you are being oh so buddy buddy and diplomatic like a sleazy politician with the people voting you

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I didn't say you had to be hostile.

I said it was convenient you are acting so diplomatically with the people all gunning for your head, it feels more like you are worried about saving your ass than feeling them out.

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Well, it's kinda hard to express a scumread on someone the way you are treating them, so if you did you would be putting a nail in your coffin.

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Transcend I'm kinda disappointed you would be caught anywhere near that wagon tbh

pedit

I'm an emotional person and player. So.

Of course, you could read my ISO and see that this irritation has been pretty persistent for a while (and that I've even SAID why I'm annoyed at this game)

But nah

Lets all just hold hands and pretend like I don't die tonight and this game doesn't stagnate

[notscience]

Because scum wouldn't dream of killing the player standing in the way of a game stagnating into a lurkfest and loldeadlinelynches

mhm

In other news, I'm currently trying to figure out what's going on with blawb's whole confirmation thing.

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Like I will fully admit that has me questioning this peng wagon a little less because I could plausibly see it as a bus.

And granted, I typically am someone who towns it the fuck up and stays out of the way while I let the heavyweights I trust lead shit, so I kinda can see where the need to be a strong townread comes from

But at the same time the way he keeps pushing CONFIRMED is super sketchy to me

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Like my whole thing is it could just be a scum hailmary bc he thinks he is the obv lynch so it buys him a day and can net a Pr. Like I could see the scum plan being (Someone else gets lynched, pref townie so its 9-3. The N1 cop claimed, so kill them to make it 8-3, then its 8-2 bc blawb's caught in a lie)

Whereas if he gets lynched, it's 10-2 going into tonight, if there is a N1 cop they can confirm someone else so that forces mafia to have to kill in a certain way, not to mention the possibility of the cop hitting a different scum and then them being even more fucked

But how early the claim was is weird too, it was trying to halt the wagon on him altogether

but if he was that committed to lynching his scumreads he would have other reasons that werent just "lolexperiencedscum (which I've brought up why its sketchy as shit already)" and "hurrdurrreplaceout (which isn't alignment indicative)" Instead he shows up, like I said, every time he is about to be prodded, and does literally nothing else and it's really fucking weird

It could be scum relaxing now that the wagon on him dissipated. It could be uninterested town.

pedit-

I said I was CONSIDERING it.

Hint: It is based off of preflip associatives, which is thereby null. I also blatantly refuse to get on a wagon that two of my top three scumreads are already on.

[notscience]

Creature, I would like to talk to you about your Poe when you are around. (feel free to leave thoughts in thread when you see this in case I'm not here, I'll get back to them later)

Bc sans your transcend read I can kinda see most of them but I want to rack your brain

[notscience]

blawb/aron/pep/fire are my SRs in no particular order. Rest of the players are iffy.

These people can all burn imo: blawb, Creature, penguin, pep

If I go extreme, my PoE is down to Pepchoninga, Blawb, Transcend and ssbm_Kyouko. Though, I still can't feel enoughly confident everybody else is town.

I also want some dialogue here

Because I agree that blawb and pep both need to go but I think fire is next and then MAYBE peng based on blawb's flip

But its weird that you 3 have fairly similar pools, yet they seem to include each other

do you think the other person is bussing or what?

I also am wondering what you guys think about pushing through a lynch on blawb or pep

[notscience]

I also remember part of my initial reason for voting you over blawb was on DVM's insistence that blawb live until d2

So hm.

I am thinking out loud because I don't have the people who sync with me here to leave it in the subtext

[notscience]

Why cant we just lynch blawb exactly

[notscience]

VOTE: blawb

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All due respect titus

But fuck

[notscience]

A reason not to lynch you

A vote on blawb

Pedit

Its only bc i have had your slot as a poe target and dont really feel up to the headache or arguing atm

[notscience]

Penguin wagon is shit and fire wagon was dying before his replace in bc i decided to be a nice guy then he came in and played sleazy dictator and its not as feasible to lynch him over blawb who is a p much universal scumread

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Actually it looks like it could happen now

Hm

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My big thing was his use of the term experienced scum was a buzzword he used in a prior scumgamr to push off a bs scumread on the ic in that game. Also he has literally just shown up when prodded to say lynch peng rather than do anything else

[notscience]

He claimed n1 doctor

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Its the oly newbie in his history ctrl f experieced

Its why im so against the peng wagon

I stonewalled him using a replace oht to push it too

Pedit

No blawb did fire never claimed

I ran up his predecessor and all he did was discredit and argue theory and i hgave him an inch of room and told him if he was town to do something productive and then lolreplaceout after i stunted the wagon

Soo

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I mean i will definitely lynch fire and leash blawb if you are up for it but it didnt seem feasible

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Oh i missed the discredits from that slot

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Also fires predecessor had blawb as his stringest scumread ans was defending him

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^tbf i noticed the buddying to

Pedit

Si

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Im not arguing atm titus i am saying what i am thinking

I am clearly giving you room to work but we mever really meshed well before which is wherein my skepticism lies

[notscience]

ftr both of your slots are still in my poe pool so iam in no way making a deal regarding lynching x first then leaving y alone

Second off I think with the place scum was in, bussing is the only way to turn this game around

Third, i dont really hate titus's entry but given the prior two i am wary

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Also why is fire lecturing about viability while he tries to start a last second lolwagob on titus

Pedit

Bc im giving her an imch of room bc i have deathtunneled on her a bunch before

But note that i said im pretty sure this is scum theatre so

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If blawb isnt viable then neither is titus

Way to deflect

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Ftr if we lynchfire and he flips scum i want blawb leashed to me

[notscience]

VOTE: Fire

Idk, we'll see!

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Transcend I have a proposition for you

You vote fire now and if he doesn't flip scum I make you a doublevoter all of tomorrow

[notscience]

I tried

Then decided the blood gods would not be satisfied by that meager sacrifice

[notscience]

Except she was already on

Do you have anything other than discredits to do or

[notscience]

What I can't seem to understand is why that slot keeps ending up acting the same way regarding the wagon

[notscience]

Because I am basing this off a multitude of players occupying the same slot?

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Is there any real reason you're nitpicking me or

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I wonder if titus is coaching you

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5 - Setup:
5.1 - The mafia have daytalk. See the first post for more information.

Also not buying 926 before someone tries to call it a townslip

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Because you are ate'ing which is typically the best way to negate me

And it didn't really start until she replaced in

Not to mention (which I know bc I just checked) you used slot to refer to your slot already in this game

So pray tell why it minds if I use it

Also growing more and more confident in my scumteam

heeeeeeeeeeeeell yeah.

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Because you are ate'ing which is typically the best way to negate me, along with attempting to undermine my confidence in my reads

And it didn't really start until she replaced in

Not to mention (which I know bc I just checked) you used slot to refer to your slot already in this game

So pray tell why it minds if I use it

Also growing more and more confident in my scumteam

heeeeeeeeeeeeell yeah.

ftfm

[notscience]

Let me explain this for everyone so they know where to go tomorrow.

Titus and Fire are scum together, distancing from each other, because Titus's slot in particular is already a very negatively viewed slot.

Fire's slot was previously defending blawb, his highest scumread. Fire lightly engaged blawb but has since just ruled him out altogether because it "doesn't fit with his team"

Blawb has avoided interacting with pretty much everyone this game. He mentioned DVM looked like a frustrated town in passing, but has not mentioned Titus's slot at all.

The reason they are bussing is because at the current point in time, most of the scumteam was a viable lynch. They needed SOMETHING out of a scum lynch, particularly because a day one scum lynch where two scum do literally fucking nothing (technically one now that titus is here) is a death sentence, and this can prolong their longevity.

I understand titus is trying not to be as titus as she used to be but this is someone I have consistently butted heads with in the past in a slot I already was wary over based on PoE who is telling me literally everything I want to hear. That is sketchy.

Blawb pushing the experienced scum thing, as I said, as well as only showing up when prodded to comment on the Peng wagon to provide as little alignment info as possible. I refuse to believe someone in their first town game would be this apathetic and refuse to try and convince people why he is right

Re: Fire, read my ISO lol

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If Fire flips scum, Blawb is leashed to me tonight. If I die overnight, he dies tomorrow.

[notscience]

Transcend.

[notscience]

I'd love to hear why

pedit-

Your question was who should be doctor'd should you flip town, was it not?

[notscience]

you do realize that I have separate reasons to scumread you all despite having associative reasons correct

[notscience]

Like I don't even understand how you could think I would get that question from that post and it feels like you are strawmanning me super fucking hard yet people keep calling you town with no discernable reason?

[notscience]

Protip

If you want me to stop lynching fire, you need to explicitly spell out what it is you are seeing that makes you think he is town so I can attempt to understand it

Just saying "he is town" will not stop me because you have done literally nothing to explain it so how the fuck do you magically expect me to go "oh they said he is town now it all makes sense"

[notscience]

You have been playing like a sleazy politician, which is why i prefer bot to discuss it with you

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Creature dont think its one or the other

It very plausibly is both

[notscience]

This is a dodge, not in a decent mental state atm. Back tomorrow.

[notscience]

There is this underlying suspicion I'm fighting. This obscures winning now.

Perhaps peng's inevitable future starts crumbling under manpower?

Idk, I'm pretty confident blawb is scum, but I am willing to let people talk before hammered.

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Actually, reverse what I said.

Hm.

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VOTE: blawb

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VOTE: creature

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Blawb should have been lynched yesterday but wasn't because of his claim.

He also did not listen to the leash, which said if Fire said town, to doc Transcend.

His protect on me was laughable too.

That being said, I made a deal.

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At work bbl

[notscience]

reading now.

[notscience]

Not Science, You've said you think Blawb is scum, haven't you? Why aren't you voting there?

I was following transcend.

I also am townreading arona

also

VOTE: arona

but i would like to vote blawb

[notscience]

Because fire flipped town

[notscience]

lmao this wagon

[notscience]

Why does it feel like every wagon this game is purely based on impulse and without a shred of reason

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Also scum have pretty obviously been perfectly fine hiding in the lurkmass since d1 lol

[notscience]

Can someone explain why chilled is scum like I'm five pls tia

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Uh

Guys we suck

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Jfc

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Im ditto with the other two, will show crumbs shortly.

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Idk, I'm pretty confident blawb is scum, but I am willing to let people talk before hammered.

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Actually, reverse what I said.

Hm.

post right after bc I meant to do titus if scum pp if town

as in, based off the lynch flip

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I was also n2.

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God damnit bold doesnt really work right hold on

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Idk, I'm pretty confident blawb is scum, but I am willing to let people talk before hammered.

original

Actually, reverse what I said.

Hm.

post right after bc I meant to do titus if scum pp if town

as in, based off the lynch flip

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What's wagonomics?

Wagonomics is a different way of saying VCA. Both are the study of vote counts to see what conclusions can be drawn and where votes should be.

I tend to favor that over raw charisma.

Pls call it VCA VCA sounds so much better tia

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Who is the scum on the fire wagon titus

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VC final

- Day 1 - Final Votecount -

Firebringer [LYNCH]

: Flubbernugget,

texcat

, ssbm_Kyouko,

Titus

,

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,

Creature

, Transcend

Titus [3]

:

Firebringer

,

TTTT

,

chilledtea

PenguinPower [2]

: Blawb,

aronagrundy

TTTT[1]

: PenguinPower

Blawb [1]

: Transcend

Not Voting [0]

:

Day 1 has ended.

Although there's tons of vanity wagons, i don't think fire was an all town lynch.

Need to look at kyouko and flubber some more.

Penguin was a competing wagon to fire and he won out when he low efforted it vs fire giving it his all.

Green conftown

Blue is claimed N2 cops with pink being me

Red confscum

Titus what do you think

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Another thought

It would make sense for scum going into last night to be stressed about coming into today and looking to make a big move to vault themselves into a town position

Also neither one of the other two crumbed and that bothers me on a spiritual level

pedit-

One thing I also noticed is that when I'm scum sometimes to circumvent vca I like to leave the side where more scum are found on the d1 wagon (so on or off the lead wagon) as full as possible so if they insist scum is on/off the wagon they have to go through as many people as possible in order to figure out who the scum in there is

But scum here split that

Did they not consider it?

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My first thought given the two leading wagons being on town and all 3 of the cop claims being on them is that one of us is scum

Second thought is that Titus's entire wagon is green sans chilled

Third is then why would scum-chilled give us the alignment on EVERYONE else on the wagon going into d2, then tell us on d3 that said wagon is on town?

My fourth thought is that I really doubt scum double'd up on someone so I doubt its blawb

My fifth thought is why has transcend lasted this long

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i do

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I have a response if he doesnt ftr

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Also the whole that would mean every scum was off the lead wagon

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Why do you think sxum killed who they killed

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Do you think all the cop claims are true

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I like to crumb as much as possible.

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kyouko vote pp so I can have absolute power tia

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It's times like this that I have to ask myself, what would zmuffin do.

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Its pretty obvious the blawb ship has sailed

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I want my goddamn rap battle.

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Okay.

I have the power.

CK give me back my power.

Now, rap battle

Whoever wins doesn't get voted.

Go.

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We have three claimed town n2 cops so do you think scum tried to double fakeclaim?