Open 668 - Diffusion of Power [Game Over]
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Why do you feel like you have to react in a certain wayIn post 52, chilledtea wrote:I want to say something about the 3 votes on me, but really I can't say anything. I mean it is obv rvs wagon don't know what reaction I am supposed to give.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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My question is moreso why do you care how you react?
Scum are more self concious and worried about how they come across
So you being concerned over the right way to respond to the wagon is sketchy as shitShowSTRIKE HARD
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because he's scumIn post 99, Transcend wrote:Why do you care if you look pro-town or not
to be fair I have scumread people (correctly) for saying "Hi."In post 103, Transcend wrote:
This post is not alignment indicative and the only post in necta's iso. I refuse to believe this gives you a scum lean.In post 28, Necta wrote:Hello everybody, new player here. I hope we have a fun game.
VOTE: chilledtea
I prefer Icetea
so
^In post 119, Transcend wrote:tr necta
lmaoIn post 129, KTthecreeper wrote:
This reads like iioa and your trying to control PRs is dumb and this is the one warning you getIn post 14, Transcend wrote:snip
He's stereotypical lynchbait. I know I've played with him before but cba to go figure out which games, but I remember him being annoying as shitIn post 133, Persivul wrote:It reads like newb town. After reading it I looked at his join date expecting it to be recent, but it isn't. That's problematic.
It might have been WTP2
This is so non-commitalIn post 134, Blawb wrote:Persivul and KT are my main scum reads as of right now, but that is obviously subject to change as people start posting more. I can't lay my finger on it, but Persivul reeks experienced scum. I'll find a better way to put into words my thoughts about him later. As for KT, Post #129 (ISO #17) was a pretty weak case. I see what he's saying about Trans being short and vague, but that's almost too easy of a target to jump on because he doesn't provide a ton of context. I think 129 was an attempt to look town by going on the offensive, but it was a weak case and an easy target; Trans is who I would go after if scum,
Why are you scared of commitment
This reads as fake tbhIn post 142, KTthecreeper wrote:I spend 30 minutes doing an ISO analysis giving my thoughts on a player and i get called a newb and scum
I'mhonestly done
(I've spent 11 hours on walls before. So.)
._.In post 148, KTthecreeper wrote:There's nothing else to do right nowIn post 180, Blawb wrote:because he knows I'm town*
Yeah, I'll claim now because of that lol. I'm town N-1 Doctor. If there is any way for me to prove myself tonight, I'll gladly do it.
Why did you feel the need to claim so early
Texcat and KT are both lynchbait iirc
Blawb is playing way too noncommital and is wy too kneejerky for my liking
Mixed feelings re creature
Liked chilledtea's flipout
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That entire wallpost
It was essentially summarizing every post in trans's iso to look busy
It could be that he doesn't actually know how properly analyze an ISO.
KT's posts where he was calling for investigatives to follow exactly what he said, I hate. At worst he's town who thinks he knows better than other town, at best he's scum who is trying to send someone on a wild goose chase. All it does it cloud things and make it more annoying for anyone trying to decide who to targetShowSTRIKE HARD
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Any dicussion regarding the reasons behind Persivul's replace out is not relevant at this point in time. There is no "Maybe there was an alternative reason, he must be upset he got found out!," because most games have rules (and iirc people have been banned before) for strategic replace outs. Any line of questioning regarding that is out of Penguin's power to defend. (To that point, pretty much everything Pers did penguin can't really atone for. They share a slot therefore the read should be based off of both.)
This is the last I want to hear of that line of thought.
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Because there is literally NO reason to claim cop at this point in time. Like real shit, someone claims N1 cop now, says they will inv blawb, blawb dies and we get no valid proof down the line. People need to crumb their targets well so we can look for this shit LATER, because it is too easy for scum to claim a cop and coast off of "oh well scum must have just thought I would be protected"
Nope.
Nuh uh.
Not buying that shit.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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Claiming early just gives scum a guideline on who to kill, particularly if the setup is more cops than doctors.In post 346, Dont_Vote_Me wrote:None of this is really true.
A claimed cop doesn't have to say who they're going to investigate.
A claim now gives us information we can use down the line.
So no.
Crumb shit, if you die and you crumbed your shit right we will be fine.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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ARona's my only one who could move down one tbh
I didn't really hate persivul, I think the experience thing is moronic (bc I have more experience and noone has pulled that shit and noone has pulled that shit on DVM, I think people were scumreading him bc he was trying to be productive and do things amidst a playerlist that's sitting around with its thumb up its ass).
Sooooooo
I think blawb is newbtown
I think KT is town but if he keeps up his woe is me thing in later days lynch him bc its scum excuse to not do anything
chilled prob town, re:his confbias and yada yada
you and creature are town bc I looked at your isos and decided you can be town
necta was town as shit TTTT just absorbed it
texcat and kyouko are both meh because that is how i feel about them
meh
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bc I am scum who feels the need to explain myself so you dont try to lynch meIn post 355, Transcend wrote:I'm trying to decide if i like those explanations or not
Also i didn't really ask for explanations yet you directed them at me
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I'm done arguing setup with you, DVM.
If the cop wants to claim, it's their head, not mine.
But stop wasting my time arguing over this shit when you should be trying to discern my alignment.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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Hey KT
Buddy
Want to tell me what changed from this game?
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I do not like subutai because they tried to act like they were a newbie trying to discern the setup and so worried about the setup and they were an alt! I think it was a fake act to make us ignore him. I also think his comments about KT's 129 being excellent analysis is lolsy and trying to buddy him
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In post 230, Subutai wrote:Some thoughts so far:
Blawb is pretty much confirmed town at this point. I did not really care for chilldtea's reaction to the RVS votes on him, though I can see that coming from both town and scum.
I have town vibes from both transcend and creature. I've played with both of them on my main account (secret for now) and this seems to be their town play rather than their scum play so far.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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He basically uses calling someone experienced scum and "not being able to put his finger on it" as a reason to scumread them up until he has to NK them
Look at what he does here, its literally the same exact thing
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My first thought upon looking at his other games and seeing he had no scumgames was that this was his first town game and he was nervous town hence the early claim and the focus on being confirmed because its so fucking weird that he is so focused on being confirmed but it makes sense kinda to me bc I used to be someone where I could look to a few choice people and be like "k they called me town I'm confirmed lata losers" and I would focus on that but that was after building up some rapport with themShowSTRIKE HARD
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idk man I'm feeling kinda good about it I think the lynchbait is elsewhere
I want to understand KT's angst a bit more and make sure it's not a scum facade
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I feel like I'm going to give the mod a headache
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Please, discredit more
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- No headache here, vote away. I can keep up at a rate of 14.5 votes per minute. (not a figure substantiated by testing)Last edited by Not Chara on Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:30 am, edited 1 time in total.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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Because one of the big things that people have been using to describe him is the same thing blawb-scum uses to push fake paranoia in past games?In post 423, TTTT wrote:I don'wanna lynch DVM
Why is everybody forgetting how scummy Peng's slot is?ShowSTRIKE HARD
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Thats the point im trying to make
He used it as scum as a way to pass off paranoia on a more experienced player
No way these are "different people" when shared accounts arent usable in newbie games, and its the same reason everyone is up in arms over persivul who really wasnt that bad, people just kept using the same term over and over as a form of paranoia resulting in everyone calling him scum for some reasonShowSTRIKE HARD
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Lurkerscum will never not be focused, creature.
Im lynching the scum im 90% sure you guys will ignore after im dead
I am willing to negotiate, your vote on him today for my vote on pepto tomorrow.
Unless you have reasons to think hes town, which I would love to hear.
Btw flubber if you want free towncred vote dvm tiaShowSTRIKE HARD
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Ive already said i think them being scum together is the case.In post 474, PenguinPower wrote:
So, I loved the haiku and all, but I'm not seeing DVM scum. While not too fond of his 390, 406, and 455; he hasn't really defended Blawb without reason. And, while part of me thinks he just wants to out an N1 cop he's being fairly logical in his reasoning for it, and the only danger would be if Blawb and DVM are both scum. Even then, it would be a bad trade because we would power lynch Blawb D2 in that circumstance.In post 454, notscience wrote:Dvms protection over him despite blawb being his highest scumread is sketchy as shit tooShowSTRIKE HARD
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Real shit, dvm
If you are town and this is all you intend to do then why the fuck are you even here? Like literally all youve done is try to be a dick and pretend youre the smartest guy in the room. You have spent more time arguing theory and discrediting than actually scumhunting. You dont want to lynch blawb snd you obv dont want yourself lynched but rather than try to work with people all you are doing is shitting all over them and its not cool. Actually try to get someone lynched, get off your high horse and have a dialogue that doesnt involve condescension and maybe you will get somewhere.
If you are scum, then find a strategy that doesnt cement your death next time.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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I know I have an ego but I am one of the easiest people in the world to read and i actually work with my townreads, but none of this playerlist seems to give a shit and none of the typical people i link up with are here. Thats why i have to strongarm everything. Its why I am going o die tonight and this game will turn into a massive lurkfest. If you are town you need to stop being a dick and show me you are town. I need someone to take the reigns when I get killed tonight.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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There are rules against replacing out for tactical advantages. People have been banned for it before.
So no.
I said it once, I'll say it again.
You look like someone who has resigned to being lynched.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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Let's see if DVM has anything to bring to the table. I'm toying with the idea of lynching pep, but I don't want to take DVM off the table without a reason to.In post 508, Creature wrote:I think Pepchoninga is way more likely to flip scum.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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In post 503, TTTT wrote:
I asked first but ok...In post 498, Transcend wrote:how about you tell me why he's scum first
trying too hard to be PowerTownTM
and ok the blawb "experienced" find was townish
but why move off it to vote blawb's defender?This is what I do. Go big or go home, you don't see anyone else trying to run this show. This game is flaccid.
Did you read that line of posts in context? I've also explained that town isn't likely to forget lurker scum (which both blawb and pep are being).ShowSTRIKE HARD
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I'm like 95% sure our first game together was PvZ where I just fluffed up the place.In post 514, Flubbernugget wrote:It's really weird seeing you being more irritated than irritating
So I mean, yeah.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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As would I,currently. But if you read in context, I said I was willing to consider pep if DVM could bring something non-discreditty and non-setupy to the table and I liked what he had to say.In post 516, texcat wrote:I'd rather lynch DVM than Pep.ShowSTRIKE HARD
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Or we can talk about your "oh its diffusion of power"
Like you couldnt tell from your role (hint: If you are town, and your role would have made it pretty fucking obvious what setup it was. You know which role pm doesn't make it obv simply from the title? orite)
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