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Mail has not posted in thread yet and she is the one who is better at signing consistently so if it's unsigned you can assume that it's me.
I actually for some reason mixed up LQ and EE when I was making a comparison to something EE did in Slavic 2 but then I realized that it wasn't.
LQ this game has been spastic and extremely posturey and usually that kind of stuff is scumtells but as far as I've read into his scum meta they're absent from his scum meta and he does it constantly as town.
So like it still comes across as insincere to me but given LQ's mislynch rate I suspect it comes across as insincere to everyone and I suggest he tones it down; but that's beside the point.
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Idk like LQ is really bland and neutral tone-y and kinda inanimate as scum. I read stuff like 'makes me want to blurt out in laughter' as over the top posturing but that doesn't seem as likely from this specific player as scum.
There's also a lot of 'scumhunting' stuff that I don't like, like calling Persivul out for 2 posts which makes no sense and the whole assuming newbness but it's not like, alignment indicative necessarily I guess?
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In post 117, Creature wrote:lol RC using someone putting effort as a scum tell.
Yeah, we could policy lynch Music and Mail.So are you claiming an actual scumread on me? You think you sorted most cunning manipulator RC on page 6 of the game? Damn you're good.
There are many, Postie included, who would love to attend a seminar that you would run explaining how you divined the secrets of my elusive scumplay.
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I'm saying that you can't read me and may think you can but can't. Being able to correctly identify me as scum means nothing if you're always identifying me as scum.
There's a difference between being able to tell the difference and being able to label me scum every game and it's not hard to do the latter. Most people in general do the latter.
This is a thing I don't feel like dealing with right now and Postie townreads you so I probably can't sway her into trying to lynch you for annoying me so I'll just ignore you.
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pls don't make RC go into hulk mode it makes him bad at the game
Hi momoIn post 26, momo wrote:What I was trying to say is that you are trying to convince us to not lynch you just because you claim to be a vanilla townie. For all we know you could be lying.
Why did you say "vanilla townie" as opposed to "townie"? It feels awkward.
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Also lol @ literally everything about this sentence.In post 150, LicketyQuickety wrote:The reason Potsie has a good Scum game is because people like you and you come across as non-threatening.
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Is RC being an opportunistic follower consistent with anything you know about him?
Please explain this further because I don't understand what you're saying.In post 157, LicketyQuickety wrote:Because you used the idea of distracting me from momo by voting for me with no reason given. Then when you knew I wasn't just going to turn around and vote you, you changed your read on me immediately.
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What does this mean?In post 169, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I will say this though, you seem more focused on proving people wrong than actually scum hunting.
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I don't at all like how LUV is feigning casualness and making gif posts to try to downplay the fact that they're voting us when momentum is actually forming.
Their single point on us makes no sense whatsoever. We are literally the only slot in this game who has done any actual scumhunting in this game. We've told people voting us that they're being shit. That's standard.
LUV would have known that this would piss me off. They would have known that I would react negatively to all this. I don't think that this setup is coincidental nor that it's town motivated.-
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We were on Hawk because I hated iso post #6. It's hugely IIOA as opposed to actual content and even in that IIOA it's a ton of waffling. It feels like the kind of post scum makes about scum, too: which is why I'm perfectly comfortable jumping over to LUV. Obviously it's early and either or none of them may be scum but I don't like the way this game is playing out.-
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I'm not sure how to respond to that wall other than to requote this question. Like, you have played with RC in other games. You should know that being cautious and backing off when under pressure is something he never does ever. If he had wanted to push a lynch on you he certainly wouldn't have waited for someone else to vote you first. Jfc LQ.In post 159, Music and Mail wrote:Is RC being an opportunistic follower consistent with anything you know about him?
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I said that you should stop posting because what you are currently doing is incredibly pro-scum on many different levels if you're scum.
If I were scum I can lynch you and walk away from that and you are a lynchbaity enough player to know that.
You are pushing the angle that I am scum because I did things that weak scum players would do but that have no scum motivation at my level. Stop.
Like why do I give a fuck about what your reasons are do you think that if there's not going to be 2-4 scum to hop on my wagon that anyone will take you seriously?
Dear fucking lord should I lynch you for your shit case and your terrible posturing then?Meta reads are mostly shit. Besides, its a lot easier to read someone based on what you know about their personality than what exactly they would do as Town or Scum. That is about all meta reads are good for according to me.-
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That's exactly my point though. This doesn't fit with RC's personality. At all. Which is why this isn't ever how he approaches the game.In post 185, LicketyQuickety wrote:its a lot easier to read someone based on what you know about their personality than what exactly they would do as Town or Scum. That is about all meta reads are good for according to me.
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Btw is the implication here that we're telepathic and I jumped in to rescue RC after sensing his fear because if so that's mildly hilarious.In post 175, LicketyQuickety wrote:RC now sees its too risky not to ask why I think this so jumps the gun on asking themselves what the reasons are so as to not be able to have that used against them.
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Right so it's NAI and you want to policy lynch him for it rather than trying to actually change that and work with us.In post 189, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Nope. On principle they ARE Scum tells because if you allow people to not have to provide arguments and not be transparent then we end up with people like RC who gets away with a ton of shit as Scum for that sole reason.In post 184, Music and Mail wrote:Also not providing arguments and lack of transparency aren't even remotely scumtells so you can stop using that as a reason to tunnel us.
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Then why are you still voting us?In post 194, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Read pretty honest and insightful to me. He also was just clarifying something.In post 172, Music and Mail wrote:We were on Hawk because I hated iso post #6. It's hugely IIOA as opposed to actual content and even in that IIOA it's a ton of waffling. It feels like the kind of post scum makes about scum, too: which is why I'm perfectly comfortable jumping over to LUV. Obviously it's early and either or none of them may be scum but I don't like the way this game is playing out.
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RC: Postie help I think if I ask LQ why he's scumreading us I'll look like scumIn post 196, LicketyQuickety wrote:Who says you have to be telepathic? You are talking on Skype right now.
Postie: Oh no I will ask instead
Yes this is a conversation that happened
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Hi I am going to ignore the information that contradicts my preconceived notions of the gamestate because I just don't do that thing.
News flash you are using meta to read me one way or the other. If you are just going to ignore the stuff that says I'm town while paying attention to the (nonexistent) stuff that says I'm scum I am fine policy lynching you.-
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Okay, well I can tell you that neither of those things have ever happened. Think I'm lying? Go ahead and prove me wrong by finding a single instance of either. If you do, that basically guarantees our lynch since I have no reason to lie about this as town. If you can't, your entire "case" holds no water and an unvote is warranted.
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And if you're going to read us as anyone else: then sitting on a scumread on you is a perfectly safe and easy play. I instead 180d my scumread on you (which looks scummy) then came up with a large set of reasons why you were town (and spent a considerable amount of time doing so that I could have spent doing literally anything else.) I would NOT use that reasoning because I am fucking RC and I don't tend to sit on easy lynches because I seek challenge, and none of that is outside the range of what I am capable of doing as scum: but if you're going to read me without meta that's super towny amirite? So either read me with meta, I'm town, read without, I'm town. bye.-
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Oh I didn't realise you were talking about Hawk. My bad.In post 207, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:What does Hawk have to do with my read on you two?
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I have made it perfectly clear that I suspect that you are partners based on Hawk's wafflewaffle post looking a lot like scum-scum interactions with you.In post 207, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
What does Hawk have to do with my read on you two?In post 197, Music and Mail wrote:
Then why are you still voting us?In post 194, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Read pretty honest and insightful to me. He also was just clarifying something.In post 172, Music and Mail wrote:We were on Hawk because I hated iso post #6. It's hugely IIOA as opposed to actual content and even in that IIOA it's a ton of waffling. It feels like the kind of post scum makes about scum, too: which is why I'm perfectly comfortable jumping over to LUV. Obviously it's early and either or none of them may be scum but I don't like the way this game is playing out.
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Your read on us is relevant because I find it very unlikely that Town!you would have behaved in this way and I want to get more clarity as to why you're voting me.-
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In post 172, Music and Mail wrote:We were on Hawk because I hated iso post #6. It's hugely IIOA as opposed to actual content and even in that IIOA it's a ton of waffling. It feels like the kind of post scum makes about scum, too: which is why I'm perfectly comfortable jumping over to LUV. Obviously it's early and either or none of them may be scum but I don't like the way this game is playing out.In post 171, Music and Mail wrote:I don't at all like how LUV is feigning casualness and making gif posts to try to downplay the fact that they're voting us when momentum is actually forming.
Their single point on us makes no sense whatsoever. We are literally the only slot in this game who has done any actual scumhunting in this game. We've told people voting us that they're being shit. That's standard.
LUV would have known that this would piss me off. They would have known that I would react negatively to all this. I don't think that this setup is coincidental nor that it's town motivated.In post 141, Music and Mail wrote:Idk like LQ is really bland and neutral tone-y and kinda inanimate as scum. I read stuff like 'makes me want to blurt out in laughter' as over the top posturing but that doesn't seem as likely from this specific player as scum.
There's also a lot of 'scumhunting' stuff that I don't like, like calling Persivul out for 2 posts which makes no sense and the whole assuming newbness but it's not like, alignment indicative necessarily I guess?
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I actually for some reason mixed up LQ and EE when I was making a comparison to something EE did in Slavic 2 but then I realized that it wasn't.
LQ this game has been spastic and extremely posturey and usually that kind of stuff is scumtells but as far as I've read into his scum meta they're absent from his scum meta and he does it constantly as town.
So like it still comes across as insincere to me but given LQ's mislynch rate I suspect it comes across as insincere to everyone and I suggest he tones it down; but that's beside the point.
Town this game unless something happens to make me reevaluate.
Bam, I gave reasons for everything.In post 135, Music and Mail wrote:Actually I just spent a while metaing you and a whole bunch of things that are scumtells for normal people are either NAI or towntells for you. We're good for now.
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In post 211, LicketyQuickety wrote:Feel free to actually address my wall, RC/Potsie.In post 201, Music and Mail wrote:Okay I'll just boil things down to this for you, LQ:
Have you ever seen RC...?- Show fear as scum
- Not continue to hardpush a lynch after getting heat for hardpushing a lynch
In post 206, Music and Mail wrote:Okay, well I can tell you that neither of those things have ever happened. Think I'm lying? Go ahead and prove me wrong by finding a single instance of either. If you do, that basically guarantees our lynch since I have no reason to lie about this as town. If you can't, your entire "case" holds no water and an unvote is warranted.
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Sakura I think that even when you had recent experience with me you would have no idea how to gaugae how I'd react to anything. I react differently to differerent things. I thought my response to Creature was appropriate because he has claimed confidence in being able to successfully read me because he called me as scum in my last 4 games and I was scum in all 4 of them. My point is that that doesn't entail him actually being able to read me because he hasn't proven that he can correctly gauge my alignment as town unless he ends up townreading me here.
My response to Creature was purely a rational one. I get lynched for being woe is me in actual games so I don't do that unless I've totally given up and instead do what I am doing this game. We are town. If you are town please settle down and vote elsewhere.-
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What's the scum motivation for it? What does she gain from lying about the vote? And also not many people read the rules: I didn't read the rules except the game related ones.In post 257, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Why not? I don't think it was her intention to not understand but that she knew she wasn't going to keep their vote on you very long so didn't need to know that you had to use the full username, conveniently.In post 255, Music and Mail wrote:Even if Sakura is scum I sincerely do not believe that she is lying about not understanding how the vote counter works, nor that she was wifully deceiving anyone via casting a trickvote.
If I was back from a long hiatus I would be damn sure to read every last thing the mod wrote in text.-
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If I agreed with you that the intent was to perform a trickvote than I would be interested in what you had to say about how it's scum motivated to perform a trickvote there.
If I agreed with you that there was scum intent in performing a trickvote then I would be interested in what you had to say about why you believe that she actually DID perform a trickvote.
As is I'm seeing neither the intent nor the motivation for it as a scum play.-
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