Open 682: Watchmen Wanted -- Game Over Some People Won!!

[lucca261]

VOTE: LUV

Consider this a warning

[lucca261]

Who should we be lynching guys?

Hey everybody I've played with. Jae, remember me?

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VOTE: Hawk

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your vote is based on me not liking the question on the end of 11. it's needed and provides no information. only there to make the post larger.

meh. it's based on fucking nothing.

love u hawk. 2 defensive.

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Why LUV assumed by vote was serious in general is a mystery.

it was, but, lol.

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meh. the only comment I don't like from TB is him pointing out the D1-D2 mistake by Grey.

quite opportunistic.

and, on my experience with him, he's not so active. null/scumlean.

why do you ask?

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tomorrow I'll post at this I'm tired.

I do know what is RVS.

Rectal Virile Something.

fuck i'm tired gbye.

[lucca261]

VOTE: Aubrey

re-read the game and like this.

i'll say that Grey is towny. Ankamius is towny.

getting some mixed feelings on Alisae. I'm not going to be able to read Jae or NotMafia right now so I'm not trying.

let's get this game right TB. talk to me.

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i'll play this right now. who's online?

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hey how u doin.

explain your townread on me.
why did you vote ThinkBig.

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i'll say that Grey is towny.

You don't know me like dat homie.

k

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not newbtown.
when did you stop scumreading hawk?

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He who asks for reasons regarding votes should state his own.

71 was very wishywashy. let's start there.

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Suuuuuuuuuuure?

meh. maybe I am.

not newbtown.
when did you stop scumreading hawk?

I never did?

explain your switch then. bam. got you. slipped.
this conversation is getting nowhere.

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fuck. Actually I don't even remember why I voted you. let me read again.

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I'm not basing my read on meta.

On this game, I think you're town.

tunnel me if you want.

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reading aubrey again, I'm not sure what was the post I wanted to vote him for.

meh. I think he's scum.

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I townread and scumread players for reasons different than most.

here it is, I'm starting to think that you're scum.

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VOTE: Grey

I'm caught scum.
guilty for OMGUS.

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Grey, read my play at the last page. do you think I've been wanting to blend in?

is it consistent?

I was voting Hawk already. why switch if I wanted to blend in?

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tunnel me if you want.

Why are you encouraging this again?

not concerned with his vote. it's making me gain more knowledge of his play and how to read him.

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meh you're probably town.

VOTE: Aubrey

your vote is inconsistent and just easy pressure.

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ok, Aubrey:

I voted you because you spent the early D1 coasting and staying under the radar, dropping NAI bombs and empty statements, instead of trying to read people off their small interactions with each other.

once Not_Mafia voted you, you switched playstyle and began to focus exclusively on NotMafia. and then I voted you, and you do the same with me.

you're not engaging with people, you're waiting to people to engage with you.

and that's what I found scummy about you.

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wasn't I newbtown?

alisae is town though.

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alisae thought I was newbtown.

not saying I am, just an interesting information.

but I'm not concerned with him. his vote is good.

the scummy vote is Aubrey.

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if I was scum, you would have the biggest wagon regardless.

changing my focus wouldn't be ideal.

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here and reading.

cool.

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246: @thinkbig, starting to think you're scum buddy. you have one game with me, and you proclaim me scum based on our incredible meta of one game? also blatantly misrepping my statement there, before dropping a vote? hey TB, did you watch any other games I was present?

249: @aubrey, my point is not you saying that defensiveness is not scummy. my point is you saying that defensiveness is scummy, but in this case can be non-scummy, so it's NAI. it's a statement that have no base attached to it. it's empty and only serves to make you seem more active.
if nothing has happened, go talk to people. push them, vote them, talk to them. I see nothing like this from you.
@grey, if you see OMGUS on my post, what do you think of Aubrey's votes?

253: @tth, this actually feels a bit opportunistic. what did you dislike about them?

260: @grey, let's play a game: if you are so sure I'm scum, is anyone bussing me? who do you think are my possible partners?

262: @grey, I agree that I have no meta on you. my read would be a little wobbly, but that is something that happens with everyone. the reason I was townreading you:

- you were trying to create content. on your push on ThinkBig, you were trying to engage with him, trying to feel his alignment. scum wouldn't be concerned with that. scum would be confortable leaving the game on a blank state. and I think that's towny independent of meta.

the rest of page 11 is nothing.

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277: @alisae, can you explain your scumread of me? I thought you were pressuring me, but if you really scumread me things changed.

282: @grey, quote one statement to me that isn't saying you are towny that could be seen as me trying to blend in with the others. no bullshit, now.

286: @alisae, I have no desire in seeing Grey push me.
at the moment that I said for him to go on, it was only one vote, and I was trying to get a better read on Grey slot.
now, when I have a lot of votes, it's a different situation. but Grey push of me furthered the game and created content. now it's a problem.

287: @TTH, I would say I scumread and townread people by consistency and psychology.
consistency by seeing if the thought process of the person is consistent and the person is not trying to grasp for straws for scumread other people.
psychology is a more popular one, using psychology to determine what would be the motivation for someone to post that statement, as town or scum.

289: @aubrey, if you want to see more from Hawk and Jae, why don't you ask them a couple questions about the game state?
this is my problem with your slot.
I don't see a town player only waiting for someone to engage with them.

298: @grey, I would say the scummiest votes are Aubrey and Hawk.
Aubrey because it fits the mold of him only scumreading someone who accuses him of anything.
Hawk because he played with me before, knows I wouldn't slip like that. And even that slip that he accuses me of is something that is at minimum a stretch.

I mean, this was the statement he thought I slipped on:

I was voting Hawk already. why switch if I wanted to blend in?

I'm not assuming he's town, I'm saying that Hawk had the biggest wagon and if I wanted to blend in, I could've kept voting someone with already pressure rather than voting someone who was clear at the moment, with only one vote.

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- you were trying to create content. on your push on ThinkBig, you were trying to engage with him, trying to feel his alignment. scum wouldn't be concerned with that. scum would be confortable leaving the game on a blank state. and I think that's towny independent of meta.

Bullshit.

I wasn't creating content. I was pushing a lynch I advertised before the game even began. That is the very definition of null, because my motives preempted my role pm.

your lynch created a lot of reads from different players.

Alisae townread you.
LUV scumread TB.
it created Ankamius scumread of LUV.

so it clearly created early content. I would say it's what ended RVS, even if is a lynch that you advertised before the game began.

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253: @tth, this actually feels a bit opportunistic. what did you dislike about them?

If you read 5 posts down, you would know.

when I catching up I try to get my original thoughts on stuff. I'd not read them at the moment I wrote it.

Oh dear God, I think he actually believes this.

I do. call me bad town all you want.

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304: @luv, how I was attention diverting from the read if I kept pushing Aubrey afterwards. this is a stretch.

317: @grey, today, what do you think of Hawk voting me because of that "slip"? analyse without the flip.

meh. this page answer some of my questions already.

340: @tb, that would be a pitiful hammer. are you still scumreading me because of meta?

342: @luv, do a list of things you think are scummy about me. can't get my head around your vote.

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358: @tb, this is so fake. you have no reason stated to suspect me, line up Nancy lynch "in case I flip town" and say that you want a claim for me before hammering.
this is fake.
tell me, how a claim in this setup would impact your decision to lynch me?

361: @luv, if you were concerned with nancy, tb, what do you think of this?

tb is scum. he is concerned about nancy pushing him to lynch me, but offers nothing on LUV telling him to do the right thing.

372: @jae, what do you think of my wagon composition?

374: @grey, good post by grey though. a bit opportunistic, but good anyway.

377: @tb, yeah, this is scum. defensiveness and a fake careless attitude, with only two votes I think on him.

I like ank for town.

382: @anka, what do you see on TTH so far?

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390: @grey, did that happen on an other game? if yes, don't like the display of self-meta here.

really good posting by Ank on LUV.

not sure about Nancy. she could be scum trying to defend me before a very possible flip. maybe I'm overthinking this.

401: @jae, explain to me the finer details of the setup?
fake claiming as scum there would be pointless. it would've been instantly countered by a real claim, given that there's backups and all.
also, didn't you townread me?

403: @nancy, yeah, nancy is town.

like those stream of posts by Jae. his tone is not fake. I think his genuine frustration comes from town. like the vote too.

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434: @hawk, first of all, that stream of reads and content when Hawk is being scumread is scummy. inconsistent with his previous play.

quote]Lucca: Scumclaimed. Waffle waffle waffle. 62 is appeasing me after he naked votes just prior. Rest of his posts through 67 seem very easy to make. Meta read on TB with only one post they're actively disliking despite everyone else thinking TB looks scummy. pushes Alisae kinda for reasoning idk why when Ali kinda was already scumreading both the slots in question. Forgets why he was even voting Aubrey. Town reads Grey not off meta but used a metaish explanation for why TB was null/scum. 220-228 Waffle flail blind hold aubrey read self vote scumslip.[/quote]

this is bullshit.

let's start by saying that the slip don't exist and I never self-voted.
62 is about appeasing you? what do you call 64 then? at the time, you were fine about that post and even answered back at me apologizing? this read of yours is at minimum a confbias.
I never called ThinkBig a scumread on [post]67/post]. I called him a null/scumlean. yes, because of one post. it was the start of the game. on the game I played with TB, he wasn't active. he posted one thought there, one here. here, he was posting on a stream of posts.
I wasn't pushing Alisae, I was trying to engage with him. I said this on the thread. this is clearly Hawk grasping for straws.
the part about me saying that I'm not using meta to townread Grey and using to scumread TB is ???. two different players, two different experience levels.

So, when you read these posts originally, you had no problems with them. Now you have? this is confbias.
also, the change from Nancy to TB seems bussing and fake.

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fucked that quote.

466, @grey, do you really think I'm so easily intimidated? lol.

good post by Jae.

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fucked that quote.

466, @grey, do you really think I'm so easily intimidated? lol.

good post by Jae.

Why do you feel the need to make shit about you that has nothing to do with you?

because I didn't like the feel of the post. Am I forbidden for thinking something is scummy?
stop trying to look like big bad grey.

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and that's hammer, right?

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that is fine.

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lol with 11 days left?

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totes scum with grey.
so, there would be no need to wait for a claim.

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hawk is scum then.

that hop was opportunistic.

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now I'm leaving guys thx.

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don't TB.

is that hydra proposal still available?

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but you're cool anyway.

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hawk is scum then.

that hop was opportunistic.

Really Lucca -_-; please I have enough problems without your shade.

answer me.

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can't go away.

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492

answer this.

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472

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Leaving the site. No time for playing right now. Sorry guys.

mod, replace me out please

a great experience, thanks.

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lol u guys still love me

sorry if the post isn't alllowed im possibly drunk and just remembered this

woowoo