Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]

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Okay catching up people.

Anyone want to call out anything while I"m reading?

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Transcend

I have a question for you a very important question:

Spoiler: Question

Do you wish to be power town with me this game?

Select all that apply

[] Yes
[] No
[] Maybe
[] Applesauce

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Math, what about apple vodka?

....I hate vodka and I want to hear Transcend talk.

But since you're here I'm still reading your posts. Catch me up on claims etc please?

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I have a town role PM that's why.

Yes it's an open setup but I haven't read crap so sometimes claims ARE helpful.

Where's your VCA can you point it out to me please?

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You can find the set up here
There will be 8 VTs, 2 Masons, and 3 Mafia Goons!
There is a daystart.
And the masons only have night chat.

How is there a guilty with this setup?

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Good good.

Transcend and RileyAccountant are two mafia, go ahead and ship that.

Y'all don't deserve any reasons. I'm just doing it for the street credz.

Interesting.

How do Masons have a guilty? I'm reading right before Grendel starts getting votes.

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I have a town role PM that's why.

Yes it's an open setup but I haven't read crap so sometimes claims ARE helpful.

Where's your VCA can you point it out to me please?

Need a scum lynch not on a guilty.

Pretty sure I don't. All I need is my town role PM FYI.

But talk with me more about this guilty. How did it happen?

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Oh okay just found it mason has a recruit deal got it.

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I'm lazy so I won't uphold my promise for today but I will 100% get to everything tomorrow. That being said, GC has solidified any doubt of a leaning SR.

Transcend/Titus/Grendel is where I'm at today tbh though the first is weakening because apparently I'm the only person who thinks he's scum at this point. I'm willing to forego that read until the end based off of crowd appeal.

Also hate the Titus vote even more because he made a huge big stink about how we have two options to play now and then threw them away a second later.

Interesting.

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1314 is CRAP

Why was this not followed up further?

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Grendel you're pinging me a lot.

Me too

Very interesting.

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@Transcend why the oh no? You don't want applesauce?

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Like i dont understand how can anyone townread titus, both nancy and riley appears soooo town and off the chart compared to trans and nancy, but i am willing to give trans another day and just legit kill titus

This is the same stance you took in pyp. We lost.

I have zero desire to vote Trans. Why are you trying to turn me against my number 1 TR?

I am not trying to turn anyone against anyone, im just trying to win by my win condition titus, i am at your full disposition to give you an honest and fair chance to completly change my read on you if you deliver at least content i can use to read you correctly, believe i want more than you not to be wrong again about a tunnel on you

Do you agree Transcend is town?

Sell me on Transcend town please Titus.

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Gut read: CK and Riley both town
Scum: Titus and Transcend

Need to sleep now but that's where I'm at.
Mainly sheeping the masons and some stuff that doesn't seem followed up on but I want to talk with people to get a better footing and see if I get enough time to read all 90 pages.

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HI MATH!!!! *glomps math*

ALL MY FRIENDS ARE HERE!!!!!

HI RILEY!!!!!!!!!!!

*hugs back*

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Okay catching up people.

Anyone want to call out anything while I"m reading?

MATTH IM TOWN THIS GAME WITH YOU AGAIN PLIZ HELP ME I HARD TOWNREAD UR PRED

Hi

Who do you scumread?

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Riley please give me your scumreads

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Why the hell would you vote in LYLO just to see something?

I townread Riley. If I am wrong on you being Town that is GG. Unvote now.

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Okay catching up people.

Anyone want to call out anything while I"m reading?

MATTH IM TOWN THIS GAME WITH YOU AGAIN PLIZ HELP ME I HARD TOWNREAD UR PRED

Hi

Who do you scumread?

i replaced-in with the exact same read as you, i townread riley, your pred and sr titus/trans

Quote it for me please?

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If you expect me to join you on my TRs without an explanation you are sorely mistaken.

I think it is both of you (Titus and Transcend) until one of you convinces me you are Town.

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1314 is CRAP

Why was this not followed up further?

Answer please

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Like i dont understand how can anyone townread titus, both nancy and riley appears soooo town and off the chart compared to trans and nancy, but i am willing to give trans another day and just legit kill titus

This is the same stance you took in pyp. We lost.

I have zero desire to vote Trans. Why are you trying to turn me against my number 1 TR?

I am not trying to turn anyone against anyone, im just trying to win by my win condition titus, i am at your full disposition to give you an honest and fair chance to completly change my read on you if you deliver at least content i can use to read you correctly, believe i want more than you not to be wrong again about a tunnel on you

Do you agree Transcend is town?

Sell me on Transcend town please Titus.

Answer please.

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Titus hasn't answered my questions Cloud doubt she will answer yours.

Fyi still not scum.

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Like i dont understand how can anyone townread titus, both nancy and riley appears soooo town and off the chart compared to trans and nancy, but i am willing to give trans another day and just legit kill titus

This is the same stance you took in pyp. We lost.

I have zero desire to vote Trans. Why are you trying to turn me against my number 1 TR?

I am not trying to turn anyone against anyone, im just trying to win by my win condition titus, i am at your full disposition to give you an honest and fair chance to completly change my read on you if you deliver at least content i can use to read you correctly, believe i want more than you not to be wrong again about a tunnel on you

Do you agree Transcend is town?

Sell me on Transcend town please Titus.

Answer please.

You have not answered this.

You said Transcend is town because momo push this is wrong.

And in regards to Riley I am listening to the dead mason.

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That isn't SELLING me.

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Titus hasn't answered my questions Cloud doubt she will answer yours.

Fyi still not scum.

Then vote scum. I answered all the questions. Asking the same thing 30 times does not warrant 30 responses.

When I am confirmed not scum I will vote when I damn well please.

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Especially since you are townreading someone for pushing town.

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I am not resisting basic logic here Titus.

Any person can see Riley+Cloud v You+Transcend.

It is a matter of which synergy is Town and which is scum.

I am asking you to sell to me so I can re-evaluate if wrong.

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I am not resisting basic logic here Titus.

Any person can see Riley+Cloud v You+Transcend.

It is a matter of which synergy is Town and which is scum.

I am asking you to sell to me so I can re-evaluate if wrong.

Letting people sell you is the wrong play.

If you feel that is the dynamic, compare which matched the towns in Civilization, which matched the scums.

Me selling you just plays to your bad tendencies and you learn nothing.

Working with town is NOT about me forcing the answer down your throat. It's about me giving you what you need to reach your conclusion.

Yes and I see no reason to townread him when he didn't follow up on his push on you?

Why did you not notice he didn't?

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The only thing this proves is if I am scum it has to be with Riley.

From a mechanics perspective all other teams are still possible

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But here is a hint I am not scum

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1314 is CRAP

Why was this not followed up further?

I am referring to this push

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I honestly don't see how you can do VCA on a confscum's wagon.

For starters, unless the scumteam feels desperate, no votes on non Grendel people are likely buses.

Why did you not say this before?

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Trans pov is the least that makes sens, from his pov

I cant be a team with Math
Riley/Titus 1scum

titus voting 2nd really fast, giving no case, not being open to reconsideration, not pushing extremely hard really really doesnt look like a bus shes going for towncred, which leads to

Math/CK 1scum -> Math scum : which is my hardest read that hes town

They please

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I honestly don't see how you can do VCA on a confscum's wagon.

For starters, unless the scumteam feels desperate, no votes on non Grendel people are likely buses.

Why did you not say this before?

I also want to know the "for enders"

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Telling me you can't do VCA when I replace in but then have done it in thread is like whaaaaaaa????

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Literally the only reason is "unless I messed up Titus is town"

What?

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1314 is CRAP

Why was this not followed up further?

I am referring to this push

Why did you not push Transcend for dropping this push?

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Okay I'm at lunch but basically riley is confirmed scum in mine and Titus' pov. I trust that math and Cloud have enough integrity not to slowroll.

I will case riley when i get home so i don't want a quick hammer.

UNVOTE:

You realize if I was scum and Riley Town I would have wuickhammered?

Again why is Titus Town to you?

Why is Riley scum?

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the odds of trans flipping town to me is <1/20

And you won't vote him because?

At this point, I am thoroughly convinced someone broke into my liquor cabinet.

I am considering moonlogic it's that bad.

For Enders?

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Okay I'm at lunch but basically riley is confirmed scum in mine and Titus' pov. I trust that math and Cloud have enough integrity not to slowroll.

I will case riley when i get home so i don't want a quick hammer.

UNVOTE:

Unvote is useless FYI

Both Cloud and I posted during that time. If Riley was Town and either Cloud or I scum with someone other than Riley it would be GG.

Cloud and I cannot be scum with each other. The only way we are is with Riley.

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I honestly don't see how you can do VCA on a confscum's wagon.

For starters, unless the scumteam feels desperate, no votes on non Grendel people are likely buses.

Why did you not say this before?

I also want to know the "for enders"

I did. When I said no other scum wagon would take.

For enders?

Be back soon.

You started a VCA here...

For starters....

Means there is more following. What is that thought?

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That's a lot of words there Transcend still not explaining how you townread Titus after that hammer.

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That's a lot of words there Transcend still not explaining how you townread Titus after that hammer.

Are you trying to get me to scumread Titus?

I disagreed with the GC hammer but not to the point where it was an immediate scumclaim.

Was her hammers on hapa and then GC really that damning to you?

I think in terms of sorting me that Titus was a lot more genuine than Rileyc.

No. I am not trying to do anything.

Based on my read it looked like it is either you+Titus or Riley+Cloud.

I am just not used to you making explanatory posts. It is throwing me off. I had a plan to scumhunt you by doing weird posting like in prior games at the start and see if it is similar. I am surprised and puzzled.

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Riley I understand you are excited but can you please not do all caps now? I am already up late to try to read you both the caps don't help.

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Also p-sure Dark is conftown for the Grendel 1v1

not scum theater 1v1

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Ask away.

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Posting still reading.

I have been struggling to catch up here.

I still think the 2v2 on a gut read remains.

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Not a fan of being conf town having a hundred pages and having to get both right but st the same time I don't trust anyone here enough for any other scenario.

So to answer your question like to? No.

Need to? Probably.

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Riley what do you make of Transcend voting Cloud?

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Whelp...I suppose I will just post random crap then so people know I am here.

Never actually had a reason for shit posting til now I suppose.

Tic Tac Toe Transcend? Or some other game?

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when this countdown runs out you will be confirmed town.

Assuming Riley posts since your vote. Hasn't happened yet.

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Yeah Titus is asleep. I knew you aren't us based so I had to sneak on to read you.

Whelp now I am confirmed town.

Guess that means I has hammers.

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Fuck. Now I am in a mini Mastina from SU2 damn.

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K so I am confirmed town from every player's point of view hooray. /sarcasm

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And hydra maybe not I am very particular about hydra'd after recent events Riley.

Maybe later.

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It's okay Math, we'll get through this. I'm still giving you 20 minutes to blitz if for whatever reasonyou're scum with Riley.

Will you be here to answer questions?

@Riley what about you?

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Yes. I don't sleep til 7 AM so yeah. We can engage until you're blue in the face.

That would make me an Asari. Give me a bit to type them up on my phone.

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@Transcend in about 10 minutes you will be locked into Riley + CK as the team.
Why did the Darklyn (now CK) spot bus from your POV?

@Riley question for you in a sec.

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Incorrect Math.

Titus is not here right now so if she and Riley are scum they cannot blitz.

But I do think Titus sorting me was genuine and I really don't think both scum would manipulate me.

I think Titus and nancy could have blitzed when you both crossvoted. Let me double check.

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Yeah just double checked but yeah. To Titus if she is Town I am conf town though as a you me team could pop onto Riley.

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Still not voting.

Still gonna read and be sure

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Let me guess I just earned another 30 minutes awake to prove not blitzing huh?

Fuck

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@Transcend in about 10 minutes you will be locked into Riley + CK as the team.
Why did the Darklyn (now CK) spot bus from your POV?

@Riley question for you in a sec.

Ignore the team thing. If CK is scum to you (which CK is if you townread Titus) then why did Darklyn bus from the start it seems?

@Riley why did you drop your Transcend scumread?

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Transcend do your timer thing so I can go to sleep soon

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Pretty much Titus/Transcend it becomes a matter of if your townreads of each other are hard or not.

And it looks so far my initial idea is shaping up to possibly be right.

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Also in terms of Duo #8, I did vote CloudKicker, but Titus was not present at all to blitz should they be a scum team. So they're still possible.

Please repost with the possible teams on top please.
With eliminated below that.

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Meh I am going to bed.

Will look tomorrow.

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Good night all.

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@Riley why did you drop your Transcend scumread?

huh??? he's confirmed scum!!!! whatcha mean I dropped my scumread on him?

This means earlier in the game

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OKAY

I forgot about this game and apparently so has Riley

I agree 777 is terrible & opportunistic. I really don't want to let go of my nancy vote, but given that it is essentially now vanity I am willing to consider wagons on:

hapahauli (diminishing tr over last few pages)
Maybe Transcend (if I think the case against him has merit after my reeval)

momo and Grendel are both town and I will not be participating in any nonsense wagon against them.

Hiraki, I owe you a Transcend re-eval and explanation of why nancy is a lying scumfuck and will pay up soon.

Here

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I am sleepy sorry poorly worded

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Thanks Transcend.

Then tomorrow I get to go through and find evidence for every case and see what makes the most sense.

If anyone has anything they would like to say towards those let me know but please don't

"Test" anymore

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This means that giant fucking wagon of crap on me was all town zzz (hiraki, momo, hap, nancy, jaereed)

lmfao

Where was that wagon?

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Now from you and Titus's view Riley is confirmed scum.

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From Cloud's POV it could be Titus and Riley so he should not vote Transcend here.

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OKAY

I forgot about this game and apparently so has Riley

I agree 777 is terrible & opportunistic. I really don't want to let go of my nancy vote, but given that it is essentially now vanity I am willing to consider wagons on:

hapahauli (diminishing tr over last few pages)
Maybe Transcend (if I think the case against him has merit after my reeval)

momo and Grendel are both town and I will not be participating in any nonsense wagon against them.

Hiraki, I owe you a Transcend re-eval and explanation of why nancy is a lying scumfuck and will pay up soon.

Here

*headtilts* but but but

when we made that post, we had a townread on Transcend!!!! hiraki asked us to re-eval him, but we never got around ta doing so since other people caught our attentionsies!!!!

Okay what got your attention? Like talk to me about that.

Like just word vomit.

This goes for everyone. Pitch your teams and your reads.

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Then I have a lot to read.

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Pretty sure nancy is just trying to get a mislynch here.

Transcend is town.

The question is whether Riley or Cloud is the partner.

I am not able to get much from the game at this speed. Can we do something besides turbo charge or dead?

You are now verifiably proven wrong. What are your reads now that I am 100% beyond shadow of a doubt Town?

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Blah I just typed utter nonsense.

Pretty much since the game is in my hands I should notmpist with one eye open.

Riley work with your hydra partner if you have one to make a Titus Transcend case

Titus Transcend reasons you TR each other please.
Titus finished thoughts on VCA and new theories now that I am proven Town.

Cloud which team do you think it is and why?

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I still need to sort Titus and Cloud.

I want to do that tomorrow.

Today you lynch Riley.

No today I solve the game and leave my thoughts for tomorrow as if wrong it is GG and right I am the NK.

Unless the other buddy thinks I would make the wrong choice in LYLO.

I have to make a last will and get Town to agree

Pick wrong scum blitz. :/

Gotta solve it all

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Titus talk to me about 1233.

@Titus

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Lemme make another diagram for you Mathy.

Possible scum teams in CloudKicker's POV

1. Rileycountant + Titus
2. Rileycountant + Transcend
3. Titus + Transcend

Possible scum teams in MathBlade's POV

1. CloudKicker + Rileycountant
2. Rileycountant + Titus
3. Rileycountant + Transcend
4. Titus + Transcend

Possible scum teams in Rileycountant's POV

1. Titus + Transcend

Possible scum teams in Titus' POV

1. CloudKicker + Rileycountant
2. Rileycountant + Transcend

Possible scum teams in Transcend's POV

1. CloudKicker + Rileycountant
2. Rileycountant + Titus

For ease of reference
If Riley Town >> Ck town Titus+Transcend scum team
If Titus Town >> Riley scum w/ CK or Transcend

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Dw only 2/4 of your wagon is scum Transcend.

So time to go through dead town's reads starting at the front.
RC scum read us wrong
And the Transcend wagon he refers to I need to check

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VOTE COUNT 1 . 24

• Transcend
  -- 4 ( nancy, Hiraki, hapahauli, momo )
  L- 3
  
  
  hapahauli
  -- 3 ( RadiantCowbells, Transcend, JaeReed )
  L- 4
  
  
  Darklyn
  ---- 1 ( Grendel )
  L- 6
  
  
  nancy
  ------ 1 ( Rileycountant )
  L- 6
  
  
  Titus
  ------ 1 ( Green Crayons )
  L- 6
  
  
  Grendel
  ---- 1 ( Darklyn )
  L- 6
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  - 2 ( Fro99er, Titus )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch
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So RC's reads were horrible. This means RC was likely a pride kill or a kill to say "look who RC read"

The only person somewhat pinging RC was Grendel and two people on the wagon.

@Titus of the end of day one of the four players here who has experience with RC?

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Frogger NK was because conf town. Will throw in his reads in a sec.

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BaeReed was because BaeReed was never getting lynched after Frogger conf Towned them

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So Hiraki is likely the only person shot for what they believed in.

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Or being mass townread.

Day Four is my focus day when not so groggy.

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VOTE COUNT 1 . 24

• Transcend
  -- 4 ( nancy, Hiraki, hapahauli, momo )
  L- 3
  
  
  hapahauli
  -- 3 ( RadiantCowbells, Transcend, JaeReed )
  L- 4
  
  
  Darklyn
  ---- 1 ( Grendel )
  L- 6
  
  
  nancy
  ------ 1 ( Rileycountant )
  L- 6
  
  
  Titus
  ------ 1 ( Green Crayons )
  L- 6
  
  
  Grendel
  ---- 1 ( Darklyn )
  L- 6
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  - 2 ( Fro99er, Titus )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-25 08:15:00)

So RC's reads were horrible. This means RC was likely a pride kill or a kill to say "look who RC read"

The only person somewhat pinging RC was Grendel and two people on the wagon.

@Titus of the end of day one of the four players here who has experience with RC?

I think the first two. RC has a few alts and I don't track all his games.

I am dumb (Transcend,you,Darklyn,Riley) who has experience with RC?

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There are now only 4 possible teams in all Point of Views. I will explain each one and their status.

1. {Cloud, Math}

Impossible. Cloud and Math have had hammer on Rileycountant several times.

2. {Cloud, Rileyc}

Possible. nancy and I did cross but unvoted quickly enough for it not to matter.

3. {Cloud, Titus}

Impossible. Cloud could've hammered Rileyc once Titus and I voted them.

4. {Cloud, Trans}

Impossible. Cloud could've blitzed Rileyc once Titus voted them.

5. {Math, Rileyc}

Impossible. Math and Rileyc had 30 minutes to hammer Cloud once I voted him.

6. {Math, Titus}

Impossible. Math and Titus could've blitzed my vote on Rileyc and Math can hammer right now.

7. {Math, Trans}

Impossible. Math could've blitzed Titus' vote on Rileyc and they have hammer right now.

8. {Rileyc, Titus}

Possible. Riley and Titus did not have adequate time to blitz me/nancy crossing each other.

9. {Rileyc, Trans}

Possible. There is nothing in this game that clears us of a team.

10. {Titus, Trans}

Possible. There's nothing in this game that clears us of a team.

Hope that helps.

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I am confTown Titus how does this change your reads?

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Titus. If you don't stop and adjust your reads you're going to become policy here. Transcend,Riley,Cloudkicker all read me as Town. There is no way I would ever be lynched here and I am experienced enough to know how to vote in LYLO having beaten you twice before.

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I am at either you're scum or you're too proud to see Riley is. Either way, I just want to get on with this.

If you think it's Trans, vote him. If you think it's Riley, hammer.

I am still adjusting and I am looking at the four teams Transcend mentioned.

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Lynch scum today. Scum NK anyone but me or you as you tunnel me incorrect.

Two deaths from three people means one of Transcend Riley or CK alive.

They instavote you I hammer.

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So unless you start townreading me and go through with some serious though and provide me cases on Riley+Cloud and Riley+Transcend from your POV I will ignore all cases without scum you in it.

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Lynch scum today. Scum NK anyone but me or you as you tunnel me incorrect.

Two deaths from three people means one of Transcend Riley or CK alive.

They instavote you I hammer.

And great, so you're telling me town cloud/transcend is an idiot so I should resign myself to losing? And that cloud is dumb enough to vote instantly? And you'll bus?

Ok.

Cloud hard townreads me. Look at the ISO.
Transcend hard town reads me.

Seriously. Titus you have evidence here I am Town you need to readjust here.

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So Titus is scum y'all. The facts demand it not me.

Sanity requested.

Meanwhile Riley+CK can be removed from potential teams.

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Lynch scum today. Scum NK anyone but me or you as you tunnel me incorrect.

Two deaths from three people means one of Transcend Riley or CK alive.

They instavote you I hammer.

And great, so you're telling me town cloud/transcend is an idiot so I should resign myself to losing? And that cloud is dumb enough to vote instantly? And you'll bus?

Ok.

Cloud hard townreads me. Look at the ISO.
Transcend hard town reads me.

Seriously. Titus you have evidence here I am Town you need to readjust here.

Last time I checked Trans scumreads you but for the wrong blitz interpretation. You never had a blitz chance.

Reread the post I quoted. He has said I am confTown a lot.

He even voted Cloud last night to prove it.

He is trying to get you to see that.

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Titus wow.

Riley CK is out.

Transcend needs to come online soon and I am going to watch you discuss things here because quite frankly this is absurd if Transcend still townreads you after this.

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Assume the too proud angle Titus who is scum with Riley?

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I'll do a vca asap though.

Should have suspected you were scum a lot sooner when you said you couldn't do VCA because only conf scum guilty and earlier you said you were doing VCA.

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Titus I am not discussing your mother in law in a game of mafia. That seems like a low blow to me. Again condolences but you know me IRL.

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Assume the too proud angle Titus who is scum with Riley?

Cloud probably, Trans if not by PoE.

Seems a wierd angle for Transcend.

PoE can't be a thing anymore because every lynch must be right.

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Why is Riley confirmed scum to you?

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Why is Riley confirmed scum to you?

Play, votes, reluctance to vote me yet shading me, just the entire situation.

Like scum don't want to vote Riley, yet, they don't want me conftown when he flips. They don't want to waste themselves by voting me, so they just shade me and hope some idiot votes Transcend (unless I am horribly wrong and Riley Trans but I think that one actually did have the original voter afk, will need to check later).

You won't be conf Town when he flips. You and Riley is actually my top case right now considering how you just say things rather than wall it up or provide lots of words.

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Seriously I am debating hammering Riley right now but my second most likely is you and Transcend. But you confTown when Riley flips is a joke.

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Need Transcend online so he can see this.

And that post you made about walls and escape hatches feels like you are high Titus. It doesn't make sense. And you obviously didn't see my Shadowrun meta I literally sat and active lurked the whole game and agreed with whatever Town pushed except McMenno.

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Cloudkicker who is your top scumread?

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Not a fan of being conf town having a hundred pages and having to get both right but st the same time I don't trust anyone here enough for any other scenario.

So to answer your question like to? No.

Need to? Probably.

you dont trust me with town win? tf

It is LyLO.

Suspect everyone unless confirmed is SoP.

Who is your top scumread?

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From Cloud's POV it could be Titus and Riley so he should not vote Transcend here.

theres equal chance that anyone insthose 3 are scum

Sort them. I will wait.

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Not a fan of being conf town having a hundred pages and having to get both right but st the same time I don't trust anyone here enough for any other scenario.

So to answer your question like to? No.

Need to? Probably.

you dont trust me with town win? tf

It is LyLO.

Suspect everyone unless confirmed is SoP.

Who is your top scumread?

From Cloud's POV it could be Titus and Riley so he should not vote Transcend here.

theres equal chance that anyone insthose 3 are scum

Sort them. I will wait.

stop acting like that

No

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i hardtownread you pred and i knew for a fact that this was nancy town play the moment that i entered the game so its nothing new to me, just dont be an ass and being heavily manipulated and then ruin the game, you might think clearing you is pro town, its not for me

I don't think clearing me was pro town either as now the entire game rests on my shoulders.

However since it does certain things are now forced. Including me having hammers.

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math you being an asshat as clear and ruining my game isnt something i wanted when i replaced-in

Asking you your top scumread is not being an asshat.

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Like just vote already please.

If you're stuck on Trans Riley, ok. Just vote. Math isn't going to because they are waiting to fast hammer.

Again I AM CONFIRMED TOWN TITUS.

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math you being an asshat as clear and ruining my game isnt something i wanted when i replaced-in

Asking you your top scumread is not being an asshat.

ignoring my post, re-asking when i was obviously reading past pages is being an asshat

Oh sorry...That was rude of me...Carry on. Didn't realize you weren't done.

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i kinda want to vote you titus

Then vote me and fuck the game again for not listening to me like PyP.

This game needs to progress.

its lylo, im comfortable using most of the day, we could even set up a date where everyone would be online for a least 1 hour and then decides a lynch

I'm deciding the lynch since I can't be scum. Titus can hem and haw but there's literally no way for me to be scum.

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Cloud, if you think I'm the idiot, transcend in the play.
If you think I'm not the idiot, Riley is the play.

Why do we need to coordinate times when Riley is just lurking? I get what you want, but is it what you need?

Riley posts at different hours. Riley slot is not lurking.

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id vote trans honestly but i really fear being wrong

Who would hammer if you're wrong?

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Riley is on Trans.
You'd vote Trans.

If trans is town and you're town scum hammer. Who would hammer if you're wrong?

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Do you scumread Transcend and Titus together?

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I did...A lot has happened so I'm asking.

Assuming you're town:
If the game is Titus+Riley voting Trans we lose.
If the game is Titus+Transcend voting Riley is we lose.

So the safer play if you scumread Titus and Transcend is voting Titus.

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I did...A lot has happened so I'm asking.

Assuming you're town:
If the game is Titus+Riley voting Trans we lose.
If the game is Titus+Transcend voting Riley is we lose.

So the safer play if you scumread Titus and Transcend is voting Titus.

And you're not voting me because...

You don't want Transcend to see you and Riley were afraid of him unvoting.

I'm not voting you because I'm conf town and not playing stupid in LYLO.

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I did...A lot has happened so I'm asking.

Assuming you're town:
If the game is Titus+Riley voting Trans we lose.
If the game is Titus+Transcend voting Riley is we lose.

So the safer play if you scumread Titus and Transcend is voting Titus.

And you're not voting me because...

You don't want Transcend to see you and Riley were afraid of him unvoting.

I'm not voting you because I'm conf town and not playing stupid in LYLO.

So you think I'm town then?

And you're not voting Riley because Transcend is scum

but you're not voting Transcend because...

No I don't think you're town.

I am not voting because confTown always has hammers in LYLO so proper teams form. That's like Mafia 101.

I want to see Transcend and Riley's responses to you scumreading me.

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They please CloudKicker*

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math are you there ?

I'm here just distracted a bit.

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I'm not pushing anyone. I'm literally saying I'm not voting ANYONE.

Anyone could be voted and I won't vote them until I've solved the game. Period.

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Now Titus can continually spam the thread with how a Riley/Me scum team slow played when Transcend voted Cloud kicker even though I could have hammered a shit ton of times and 30 minutes worth of posting or she is scum. Not once did Transcend unvote. He'd have to have been psychic for a me/Riley team.

However Transcend is going to see this and realize he was not smart with his townread of you and that's it. I'm just waiting for him and Riley to get on and Titus knows it.

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Why not open to me and riley?

If that's the scenario, I've already lost because Math is town and not trying anymore but just wants to hammer whatever two people agree on that isn't Riley.

Nah you and Riley could be scum together. I'm working from the four teams Transcend posted. You're just likely pushing absolute bullshit on a timer.

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Then vote Titus Riley.

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Here

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And not a boy or girl

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Unvote now please just in case Titus is town

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given up on trying to tell people what my pronoun is in mafia games they always forget anyway

are you "they"because of hydra? also not signing your post and asking for a certain pronouns is a lot

I am genderfluid and ask for that and one person.

It doesn't matter what you want it matters who they are.

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Math are you willing to get some balls and clears me as well?

While I am cooking eggs over a stove I am not doing a half baked plan.

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@math do you want me ro prove that titus is with trans?

No because if it is Titus Riley we lose.

I want time.

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Riley put your vote back on Titus please.

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@math do you want me ro prove that titus is with trans?

No because if it is Titus Riley we lose.

I want time.

yes but itd be more fun

It is more fun to solve the game and be right.

Chill. Give me a chance.

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then youre the one who was completly dead wrong on my slot, hi

Yes, hi. What do you want?

Vote back on titus please Riley.

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Now we wait on Transcend to see what he thinks.

@Titus do you still scumread me?

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Now we wait on Transcend to see what he thinks.

@Titus do you still scumread me?

no she said i was mefia with riley insteand

I want her to be explicit.

Who do you scumread Titus?

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UNVOTE: Riley

Tell me when you want to vote Riley or Cloud Math. Otherwise, I am not voting until then. I am flat out protesting your shitty play Math.

Vote back on Riley since he is confirmed scum to you please.

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then youre the one who was completly dead wrong on my slot, hi

Yes, hi. What do you want?

nothing, im just starting to be insufferable about it

If you think this is the first or last time I've been wrong about my read in a mafia game, you're wrong. And if you think opening a green role PM means it would be very fun to troll and shit up the game for no reason, then have fun doing it in games where I'm not on the playerlist. If you want an apology, you aren't going to get it. What I did earlier was absolutely correct, and you being town does not change that. Maybe the vote was hasty, but I'm not too torn up about it seeing as I immediately took it down.

Vote back on Titus please.

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Now we wait on Transcend to see what he thinks.

@Titus do you still scumread me?

No. I just stubborn pride read you.

Then vote confirmed scum to you then please.

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UNVOTE: Riley

Tell me when you want to vote Riley or Cloud Math. Otherwise, I am not voting until then. I am flat out protesting your shitty play Math.

Vote back on Riley since he is confirmed scum to you please.

No. I am not wasting my time any further. If you are not going to vote confscum, we lose.

It's Riley Cloud.

The more you insist conf town vote first instead of thinking things through then the worse you look.

The proper thing for me is time to think and you know it.

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VOTE: titus

Vote off.

I want Titus and Riley cross voting.

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And those the only votes.

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Perfect.

Now I get time to read in peace.

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Can I ask what's your plan Math?

Solve the game.
We lynch scum.
I die.

Last player alive listens to my reads.

You know what screw it everyone Unvote I saw what I wanted.

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vc you guyz are going at the speed of sound.
And ywall got places to go now.

It will slow down in a bit promise.

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vc you guyz are going at the speed of sound.
And ywall got places to go now.

VOTE: alisae
UNVOTE:
VOTE: math
VOTE: trans
UNVOTE:

Unvote for realsies please

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Do it again for my sanity please

I am soooo annoying.

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Cloud is not voting by my count. Titus is voting me, Transcend is voting me, no other votes(I unvoted after math said to).

Transcend isn't voting actually.

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Cloud is not voting by my count. Titus is voting me, Transcend is voting me, no other votes(I unvoted after math said to).

Transcend isn't voting actually.

Oh my bad he is.

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Now we wait.

I read. Y'all chill the fuck out.

Transcend gets back and we see how hard his townread of Titus is.

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@math you realize both trans and titus unvoted conf scum for some obscure reasons

Chill the fuck out I said and let me read.

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Or Titus Riley could exist.

Now I want some time to THiNK

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i wouldnt enter the day and hardtownreading my partner, just so that my parnter hardscumread me back and vote me on lylo lolzi

It works. Scum only need one more mislynch doesn't matter which day.

Now I am going to take the four possible teams and think.

Titus has made her case Riley+Cloud.
Riley and Cloud both say Titus.

Pedit: CK you said Trans and Riley

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Titus is a known gambiter. I have to consider all the glasses of wine and if a newer hydra could be convinced to gambit.

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In order to do that I NEED to talk to Transcend.

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Titus is a known gambiter. I have to consider all the glasses of wine and if a newer hydra could be convinced to gambit.

? you prob misread, i said that my play with riley wouldnt be happening because shes a new hydra, nothing to do with titus

Oh I thought you were talking about a Titus Riley double bus.

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Perfect now I have all the time to read quietly.

Transcend when you are online please post.

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In order to do that I NEED to talk to Transcend.

Great maybe he'll get you to vote Riley but I would be arguing Riley is town so you'd do the opposite of what I say.

A) You couldn't because when I replaced in what was happening.
B) I get Riley is confirmed scum to you. That doesn't make them confirmed scum to me.

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Math I genuinely do not see how you can see Titus as town here

As I have stated numerous times

I must have the entire game solved. Not one person.

Titus gets to be a stick in the mud and wrong til reason is shoved down her throat st times.

I need to analyze everything.

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I will be reading and listening for everything.

Votes hammers reads lines the whole shebang everything in the entire game.

Transcend needs to get here so I can see if his read changed on you.

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Do you townread Titus Transcend?

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Even after she scumread me?

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I mean i convinced myself that Darklyn was scum and thinkbig was town pretty hard

That's probably just a derp-up

That sounds wish washy please do as you need for a straight answer.

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Yes what you townread Titus?

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Then why is Darklyn scum Titus town a derp up to you?

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Man i wish i could have cleared mysrlf 100% to Titus

But I was flip fuckitty asleep

You're like 99.9% anyway.

Vote Cloud with me to prove Riley Cloud?

Titus Riley still a possible thing. Please don't.

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1. {Cloud, Rileyc}

Possible. nancy and I did cross but unvoted quickly enough for it not to matter.

2. {Rileyc, Titus}

Possible. Riley and Titus did not have adequate time to blitz me/nancy crossing each other. Also Titus was asleep while I voted CloudKicker for 30 minutes to clear MathBlade.

3. {Rileyc, Trans}

Possible. There is nothing in this game that clears us of a team.

4. {Titus, Trans}

Possible. There's nothing in this game that clears us of a team.

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I'd rather solve the game myself than have it solved for me.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'm taking a leap of faith and clearing Titus in my pov.

VOTE: CloudKicker

Sorry you need conf Town and if it is Titus Riley you just lost us the game. So please Unvote.

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Then why is Darklyn scum Titus town a derp up to you?

I made a giant case on Darklyn

I thought you meant your townread of Titus was a derp up.

Silly me following grammar rules.

Please Unvote.

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I'd rather solve the game myself than have it solved for me.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'm taking a leap of faith and clearing Titus in my pov.

VOTE: CloudKicker

Sorry you need conf Town and if it is Titus Riley you just lost us the game. So please Unvote.

What you don't understand is if it's Titus and riley I'm okay losing.

I got balls homie.

I don't. Please Unvote.

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Will you all just stop commenting here.

Any wagon you want to go throw has to have me on it and I have to hop in the shower in 7 minutes to not be late for dnd

So how about we just chill?

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Lol

I'm just clearing Titus fmpov and officially setting up the teams.

And if you are wrong GG.

I did not stay up til 3 in the morning becoming conf Town for you to possibly piss it all away.

Unvote.

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If Titus and riley do not blitz the vote, you will have two and only two options as opposed to four.

And if they do Town loss.

Put your vote away.

I would rather Four than risk loss

And those options were where I was starting from.

Gtg shower now.

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Damn it Transcend.

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Everything in the world made sense for Titus to be town

Oh well

Even scum reading confirmed town?

Cmon Transcend.

I was trying to get you to see things where she was scum or we lose.

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What I get for taking a shower I suppose shit

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like town was utter shit this game. the only lynch we got was the guilty that I said would be a guilty.

you all hard townread scum and lynched everyone who thoughts differently than you like a bunch of idiots instead of realizing that you were wrong

Ermmm

Can we say I wasn't an idiot? Please?

I had Titus Riley as my top pick.

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I HAVE NO IDEA WHY TITUS WASN'T AUTOLYNCHED FOR THOSE TWO HAMMERS

I actually wanted to bus her hard because that was obvscum then everyone was like "she is town get off her back" and I'm like "okay, okay... I'm fine with this."

Why the hell do you think I asked Transcend about that hammer?

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Transcend, that was horrible lylo play on your part. I don't give a shit what your reads were - you have a clear, you let them lead.

Thank

God

I replaced out when I did.

This so much this.

We would have won if you let me lead holy fuck.

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like town was utter shit this game. the only lynch we got was the guilty that I said would be a guilty.

you all hard townread scum and lynched everyone who thoughts differently than you like a bunch of idiots instead of realizing that you were wrong

Ermmm

Can we say I wasn't an idiot? Please?

I had Titus Riley as my top pick.

You were better in lylo but you should have let me bus.

I had to convince Transcend as if I let you bus you kill me and claim towncred.

I had to convince him.

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I just didn't. He decided to do his own thing.

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Math, I gotta give it up for your play here tbh. You took a spot that was pretty horrible (nancy) and turned it into a lylo clear and should have won the game. You are the redeeming quality in this town.

Thanks horrordude.

Still gotta work at being convincing.

Maybe if I was this doesn't happen.

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Dw only 2/4 of your wagon is scum Transcend.

? Who were the scum then on the Transcend wagon then RC?

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I was shit but he was blinded by accountant so idrc

Pedit: Hapahauli says hi, RC. You fucked up as well.

I random tunneled day 1 to stay alive. It didn't work since scumteam were all terrified of me. I did not particularly think Hapa would flip scum.

You were shot because I did a hammer on hapa that went against some other completed game, I think PyP. You would have had my head for it.

Frogger because conftown.

JaeReed because I didn't want to teach VCA with this situation (shitty foundation for vca) plus I would be pointing at myself.

I think Riley and I were on every lynch this game.

Yeah no shit.

Titus's contradictory VCA answer meant conf scum.

I asked everyone one question here and pretty much solved it. Couldn't let Titus and Riley know though.

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Honestly shoulda hammered Titus when I could.

That is my biggest regret.

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Phone posting will get it in a sec.

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Then cloud would've lynched me.

It was unwinnable

Titus tricked me

Accountant tricked him

Zzz

Not if I had TIME.

That is what I needed.

I just gah :/

@Riley

Mainly votes. I had a titus gambit bus suspicion especially when she accused me of not blitzing she was likely subconsciously telling.

You didn't obey conf Town vote requests.

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Sorry y'all.

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Then cloud would've lynched me.

It was unwinnable

Titus tricked me

Accountant tricked him

Zzz

<3 the 2 player con game

Glad you trusted me. I think you were confused at first.

I like me some White Flag and similar gambits. Particularly with bus cred because #TitusNeverBusses.

Except when you do.

I never trust anyone who says they don't bus.

Damn it.

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Tried to stay alive. didn't work.

OH I ALMOST FORGOT

Riley called you as being mason after your first post which implied that you weren't mason and she figured it was a gambit to make people think you weren't

Lol yeah.

I called RC death based off that post and flip mason
Derping intro was so hard.

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Wow okay lol.

Color me shocked.

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Well played scum manipulating Transcend.

Nice try Town.

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GG all. I really tried

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How was the flavor btw?

Dying in a washing machine is how I feel

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But seriously great modding.

Is dead thread available?