Open 690: Kill All Townies - Game Over

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VOTE: Siblings Pet Doggo

I'm more of a cat guy

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also page top ))

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Post 19 looks like Scum Kawso to me. Kawso expresses an over-eagerness to appear townie by taking an obvious joke post too seriously and responding with a townie-looking question:

Why is someone like Balki & someone like Flubber in different tiers, considering neither have posted?

This question screams:

"I read your post in full, I analyzed it, and I've observed an inconsistency! I am town!"

Kawso appears to be looking for opportunities to blend in.

Scum!

A much more natural town response, I'd wager, is this one:

What the fuck is this shit

with this post aren't you doing the same exact thing that you accused Kawso of doing?

also I'm seeing a lot of familiar avatars! this is going to be wonderful

also what's scary about my avatar, have you never seen rick and Morty?

Cats are still fucking better

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Before we start with this, I want to make sure that I'm understanding you correctly. So you find his vote on SPD scummy because in an obvious RVS fashion, he voted them for a random reason in an attempt to make a joke. Then, his apparent over-analysis on MM's reads, not sure if real or not but I doubt it, pushes you to believe that his analysis was forced and was an attempt to blend in. That's how im interpreting everything, if you believe in interpreting something in a fashion that was not intended, please let me know because if I'm thinking incorrectly then this is going to be absolutely useless

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with this post aren't you doing the same exact thing that you accused Kawso of doing?

also I'm seeing a lot of familiar avatars! this is going to be wonderful

also what's scary about my avatar, have you never seen rick and Morty?

Cats are still fucking better

I'm not accusing Kawso of being scum because he did something townie. I am accusing Kawso of being scum because he was so eager to look townie that he started doing his townie tap dance before the music started.

So, you tell me if I'm doing the same thing I accused Kawso of doing. If you think I am, explain why.

I like how you pretend you don't know what Echo is jokingly (I assume) accusing you of

VOTE: Balki B

If you wanna look town by making the first accusation, at least don't crumble as soon as someone half observes you making the move you're accusing someone else of making

i mean it was a little jokingly but imagine a confused person saying it slowly cause they don't know if they're right or not. i was serious with it, however

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Thirteen times three

~T

thirty nine in case nobody answered

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Also, will you be playing the entire game as a condescending asshole? Is it some sort of role play?

hell of a role choice for the next uplay i'm in

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Seems like we're still in the gradual stages of switching from Joking random voting to proper discussion, so I'd like to see some opinions on some of the other people not being discussed heavily

then let's see some from you motha fucka

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Post 19 looks like Scum Kawso to me. Kawso expresses an over-eagerness to appear townie by taking an obvious joke post too seriously and responding with a townie-looking question:

Why is someone like Balki & someone like Flubber in different tiers, considering neither have posted?

This question screams:

"I read your post in full, I analyzed it, and I've observed an inconsistency! I am town!"

Kawso appears to be looking for opportunities to blend in.

Scum!

A much more natural town response, I'd wager, is this one:

What the fuck is this shit

Alright then
Tryhard
Probably Town tbh

dope. what makes this town tryhard and not scum tryhard??

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VOTE: Balki

this is scum

How's fancy sock puppet dude scum? or is this still RVS vote

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also just to clarify, I'm not using what I said before about Balki about his "hypocrisy" as scum indicative. tbh I'm slightly town leaning sock puppet cool guy but I'm being weary of my reads because people in this game are actually fucking good and im not

soooooo

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Delta, you said, "which ever of you is scum," implying that you find one of them to be scum. who of balki/gamenburger is scum/scummier?

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@Comm/Sesq: Your reads on each other please. Also, if it's not much to ask, your top 3 scum reads each.

lol i dont fuckin know

usually I'd be like k bye scum and lynch you but it's still incredibly early game so I can actually respect this and personally I call this NAI

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game I'm going to put a fucking muzzle on you because you post on every single post and half of it is useless content that's achieving absolutely nothing

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also UNVOTE:

I don't feel a need to keep a vote on the hydra currently

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game I'm going to put a fucking muzzle on you because you post on every single post and half of it is useless content that's achieving absolutely nothing

To be fair I think most of the time I'm wasting is getting other people to say more than just solitary nondescript votes, and answering questions from others. If you could be more direct and clear with what you mean by useless content and what it means to achieve something would be a great help to improve the situation rather than just blindly expressing anger.

Besides, given no night actions have occurred and none of us have day actions, we have nothing aside from interactions to go off on, so as far as I see it I'm giving you something to discuss atleast

And I'm sorry but since when is trying to limit discussion ever a pro town move?

perfect example. what exactly does this post accomplish? I can tl;dr this in about a sentence

I'm trying to make conversation because without it there's nothing to discuss

when I said what I said I wasn't implying for you not to post, although I may have seemed like it, I was implying you to shorten your posts because they're long and I'm lazy and don't want to read and I'm just reading useless fluff anyways

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Welcome to Open 690: Kill All Townies!

You are a Mafia Godfather.

Your partners are {redacted}, who is a Mafia Goon, and {redacted}, who is a Mafia Doctor.

Abilities:
-During the day phase, you may vote and post as normal.
-If investigated by a Cop, you will not return as a member of the mafia.

-You share a factional PT, located {redacted}, where you may talk during each night.
-You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill.

no day chat only night chat if im interpreting correctly

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also UNVOTE:

I don't feel a need to keep a vote on the hydra currently

Why not?

because it was an RVS vote and we're not in RVS anymore

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Odd response from someone who said, without reasons, that my discussion with GNB is more than likely not TvT.

That's because he's scum. Aggressive players aren't usually this tame unless they're trying to be careful, which they won't happen as town because when you're town, you feel comfortable on going all out.

-Ali

is he usually an aggressive player? does this aggression last all game, from the start of day one? what I'm trying to get at here is does he turn aggressive after shit happens or is he already aggressive

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Let's flashwagon Delta

why...? didn't delta make a "case" against you like a page ago? is that why...?

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pedit: I like you, MM4, Game for town. That's honestly all I got at the moment.

what makes you like mm4 as town? what do you think about his "flashwagon Delta"?

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can you quote the post where you said why? I don't remember reading it.

ALSO ALISAE IS A DUDEEEEEEEEEEE GOD DAMN

I like his case. VOTE: CommKnight

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I'm still indtween classes and have dinner to make so excuse my lack of talking for now, as per usual I'll put up a nice wall of everything interesting that's happened

Oh man I can't wait

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With Siblings fake CC I'm comfortable with my vote on the hydra.

it wasn't really a fake cc it was him saying that he doesn't believe you

nothing was claimed, therefore it's impossible for it to be a counter[bold]claim[/bold]

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eh fine

UNVOTE: comm

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It's a FAKE counter claim. Like you outed yourself as scum because if you're doing this as town, it's against the rules to gamethrow soo blantantly.

you really think scum would be that fucking idiotic as to call you out on your claim if you really were a cop??

tbh your frustration over him saying "no you're not cop i don't believe it" seems fake as fuck and i don't see scum saying what alisae said so i'm still going to be watching your ass as i read

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Let's see:

- You build a case on me from "Meta"
- Don't like my "reactions"
- Force me to L2/L1 intention to a full claim
- Immediately CC.

How convenient that you are "Cop" after all that and *I* claim it as well eh? That speaks for itself. I claimed first.

A. This is misrepresentation, because it's also mostly your play.
B. Yeah, you're passive when you go all out and aggressive. You're not doing that.
C. How is this scummy?
D. Yeah, because

that's my role

CommKnight is not a cop.
I am.
Now kill him.

-Ali

oh okay now he kinda says he's a cop

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Balki B, EchoVision, MarioManiac4, GameNBurger, Flubbernugget
^ Vig, if you can shoot in this pool that'd be awesome.

so pretty much anybody who voted you is scum?
no opinion on who, you just kinda give up and say to shoot anybody in this pool in hopes that they're scum

interesting.

so who out of this is scum and who out of this is town?? or are you actually clueless which is why you're putting pressure on the vig to figure out instead of figuring it out yourself

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Nah, CommKnight is scum.

^ I even suggest shooting Balki, that would probably be a scum flip from the 5.

don't really see a reason for this other than OMGUS

which is horse ass

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{MarioManiac4, GameNBurger, EchoVision} Pick one.

Actually, I retract the TR on flubber too. Might as well switch him with Siblings. That's the last 4 votes on you, and flubber now the scummiest of them all.

VOTE: flubber

can i ask why the suspicion on us three and not any others on the wagon?

aside from flubber of course

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Also consider this... if I were scum, why would Ali CC? The other scum team would have to SHOOT me with no CC's.

So there's no benefit for town!Ali to CC me as they just get themselves killed in a crossfire.

Just saying.

if you were town, why would ali cc? the other team would shoot him for ccing a town player which

chances are

only scum would do

or he gets lynched the next day with only one town player dead

just doesn't seem worth it on his end to cc you if he were scum

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Plus you're now outed to the OTHER scum faction, so they'll likely pick you off as well.

You are so scum. You did not think through this one before you posted it.

(I'm joking, no personal attacks, I know you're scum too).

why is Balki scum?? (if you have no legitimate reason and this is just omgus i'm taking your head and shoving it into a pile of donkey shit) Why are you not voting to lynch him and letting one of the scum factions kill you/ali to see which one of you fucks is telling the truth?

Is he partners with Ali or is he the other scum fac?

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Scum is so painfully obvious right now.

VOTE: Game Let's lynch one and then Balki and WWs will probably off Ali for us.

so is game mafia with Ali or is he WW with Balki

where do you think shit connects because it has to connect somehow somewhere

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We also now have to sort Echo, Mario and Flubber. 2/3 more likely than not being scum.

hi i'm echo

sort me motha fucka

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I feel like the way sesq avoided the wagon is scummy.
But yeah tbh, I wasn't really thinking about the setup.
-Ali

pedit: I fakeclaimed because I thought you were scum fakeclaiming near a noose.

what do you think is scummy about sesq avoiding the leading wagon? wouldn't scum want to be on the wagon in attempts for a mislynch??

YO SOY CONFUSE

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tbh i havent been paying much attention, will iso now

after reading through it i dont really see anything except sorta what seems like wagoning onto comm

if you scumread me for "wagoning onto comm" then how about the other four people who hopped onto that wagon? are they scumread too? I don't think that any of them gave reasons above mine, being that Ali's case seemed pretty decent and convincing

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VOTE: DeltaW
i have skimmed the last five or so pages so my vote returns to this

por que motha fucka

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VOTE: Delta
MM4 what do you think of Echo?
-Ali

owo whats this

VOTE: Delta

VOTE: Delta

I haven't read yet, I just wanted to vote for the sake of putting 4 consecutive votes on him.

four consecutive votes on this guy and 4 consecutive absences of reason

POR MOTHA FUCKIN QUE

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Have we ruled out the possibility of both Comm & Siblings being Scum? It's unlikely, but if that's the case, then the real cop shouldn't out.

Actually, could it be viable for each of us to hypoclaim cop/seer tomorrow?

yes we have ruled that out cause that's just dumb

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i feel like im stuck right now

and kinda want to lynch comm

but im not sure

why do you still want to lynch comm?

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{MarioManiac4, GameNBurger, EchoVision} Pick one.

Actually, I retract the TR on flubber too. Might as well switch him with Siblings. That's the last 4 votes on you, and flubber now the scummiest of them all.

VOTE: flubber

can i ask why the suspicion on us three and not any others on the wagon?

aside from flubber of course

You mean to ask why I suspected only 50% if the wagon, except I also suspected one third of the other 50%??

wait i'm confused

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How much longer are we going to dwell about this Cop/No Cop thing?? Is this the focal point of the whole game?? Like, GET OVER IT!. Let's SCUM HUNT.

My updated lynch pool is: Sesq, Hawk, havingfitz, DeltaW, Balki B, Tenshii

If I had to rank them, I'd say I'm more confident in my scum reads on Sesq & Balki. Pick one of the two to vote and let's form some serious wagons.

i was catching up and i figured i should give my opinions on things such as the cop/no cop thing because that was a big part of the game that i missed

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VOTE: DeltaW
i have skimmed the last five or so pages so my vote returns to this

por que motha fucka

read the thread motha fucka

I came across your case eventually, however it was only on about two posts iirc. I'm assuming that's just due to the lack of content from him.

Is his lack of posts pinging you as scummy too? is that part of it?

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Because Delta seems to be grandstanding

excuse me sir what is grand standing if ya don't mind me askin

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Okay well I'ma just vote
VOTE: Echo
because I'm worried Delta isn't going to flip scum. Everyone just seems okay with Delta dieing.

Also ehhhh, I still feel like there would be more resistance, ya know?
-Ali

so did you actually scum read delta or were you just kinda following the wagon

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whatever.
VOTE: echo
i don't have the charisma to push through a lynch.
if ppl want to do delta i'm willing anytime.

is there reasons or are you just following Alisae cause it's quite apparent you still scum read delta but you're hopping wagons

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daily reminder that bella is scum

por qué motha fucka

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I want to iso Delta eventually

not enough posts to iso and get a read Imo but he does need to start acitiving the fuck up

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null because there's not shit to base a read off of. if inactivity continues into d3 or maybe d2 then fuck em up

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also you point to your read being null as you stated in the quoted post but if you truly scum read delta then vote for delta and not a null read that could potentially gain steam

I don't like your vote on me, and no its not just because it's on me

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I'm isoing tenshii actually

also Ali can we get frog to come post his case about him because I'm actually incredibly interested in hearing it

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what do you strongly disagree with?

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VOTE: Flubbernugget

Oh. He scumclaimed.

i'll get to more in a few mins but i don't like this post because you never actually say when he scum claimed and three iso posts later you vote delta even though you never read

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How could you even scumread me this game? My lines are beautiful.

your whoppin 19 lines blow dick

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yeah, bellaphant is scum.

P O R Q U E M O T H A F U C K A

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what do you strongly disagree with?

"if you truly scum read delta then vote for delta and not a null read that could potentially gain steam"

if your vote was just an attempt at pressure then yeah i see where you disagree however if you were hoping that the case would stick then i stand by my prior statement.

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VOTE: Flubbernugget

Oh. He scumclaimed.

i'll get to more in a few mins but i don't like this post because you never actually say when he scum claimed and three iso posts later you vote delta even though you never read

Tenshii likes to shitpost on d1. It's one of the better ideas mafia players tend to have.

in order to shitpost he has to post

#fucked

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why do i get the feeling echovision would rather say "por que motha fucka" than read the thread

because i definitely would however that's not acceptable play so i have to say

something

other than por que motha fucka

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Can you two stop this, separate arguments is anti-town, all I see is 2 fuckwits arguing over a point made several pages ago and escalating it so which ever of you is scum can use it as material for your wagon later.

are you referring to this post for your "talk's a big game"?

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through

ALL 19

of tenshii's posts i don't really see an attempt at scum hunting which should be pretty easy because 6/17ths of the game is scum fucks

however if you're right about shitposting then i guess that's nai at this point

ALL OF YOU FUCKS WITH UNDER 20 POSTS NEED TO POOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT

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why do i get the feeling echovision would rather say "por que motha fucka" than read the thread

because i definitely would however that's not acceptable play so i have to say

something

other than por que motha fucka

i was more referring to the fact that you have repeatedly asked people to give reasons for their votes or statements when they have already done so

well her reason was shit iirc so i'm attempting to get better reasons

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what do you strongly disagree with?

"if you truly scum read delta then vote for delta and not a null read that could potentially gain steam"

if your vote was just an attempt at pressure then yeah i see where you disagree however if you were hoping that the case would stick then i stand by my prior statement.

eh i think that you should always vote where your vote will be the most helpful
this links into me thinking that opportunism is good town play (i think we discussed that a bit in backup6 altho it might have been someone else idk)

idk i don't really remember anything from that game because it was fast as fuck

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would you rather i say "yo necesito mas"

"I need more"

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right now i don't really know where to vote

i want to see Frog's case on tenshii if he's not busy though because that could push me into a decision

PEdit: i think that's from a while ago because hawk having and beeboy are all inactive as fuck and you need to pick that shit up

remember kawso was a major wagon at one point because of his pr outing shit

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flubber hmu with some reasons on why you're already on tenshii if ya don't mind

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For the love of god don't vote him further tho we're at l-2 and Balki is rogue

then how bout you take your vote off of him...?

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I really just don't understand why you'd put your vote on someone and then follow it up by saying "nobody else vote because I don't want him dead"

IF YOU DON'T WANT HIM DYING DON'T VOTE HIM AYWHRVWHNSKCLQKAPP

anyways Im not voting delta until he posts more and has enough posts for me to actually formulate an opinion on him.
same goes for all of the ten billion fucking players who got prodded

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Oh hi Trans ur pretty

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Why is Echo being townread? The most notable things he's done is scream every now and then in Spanish (POR QUE????) and push my easy as fuck to push slot.

are you claiming that you scum read me then? if so, then why? also I wasn't really pushing your slot ever I just examined your iso and now I'm waiting for opinions on you from frog who has a case my dude

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Mario how many scum do you think are on delta wagon and who do you think they are

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DeltaW

(8):

Tenshii

,

Gamma Emerald, Bellaphant

,

CommKnight, MarioManiac4

,

Almost50, GameNBurger, Siblings Pet Doggo

coloured for echo's benefit

hey thanks

and mariaf that's my reason why I'm not voting him; there's nothing to actually formulate a read on in his 9 posts

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nice to see that echovision is wrong

if you can scum read him from 9 posts, then how do you read havingfitz? or beeboy? or anyone who has sub 20 posts

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Part of me wants to see Delta get subbed out for someone who responds to a L-1

actually Yeah I do wanna see that

as long as it's not fucking RC cause I'm going to cry if I town read him and he flips scum one more fucking time

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Wait I forgot to do this

VOTE: Tenshii

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Yeah forgot mariaf subbed for having so that wasn't too great of an example. However, if Maria is scum for opposing the delta wagon, then am I scum as well??

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If Tracker!Kawso isn't dead tonight then you can bet your ass I'm pushing him tomorrow!

ewww set up post is bad set up post is trash

My intent is real btw so fight me.

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If Tracker!Kawso isn't dead tonight then you can bet your ass I'm pushing him tomorrow!

ewww set up post is bad set up post is trash

My intent is real btw so fight me.

Jesus christ that isn't a real post this setup doesn't even HAVE a tracker.

whoops

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Imo I don't think Mario, the main pusher of delta is scum, but I think it was easy for scum to join, regardless of how delta flips.

i agree with this

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If you're gonna put words in my mouth at least tell me what it is I truly believe, clarity goes a long way in conversation

Sure. It's quite clear:

If you wanna look town by making the first accusation, at least don't crumble as soon as someone half observes you making the move you're accusing someone else of making

Here's a protip next time you get anything non townie, or even if you do get townie, Less is more.

You have suggested, with much more certainty than SPD, that I am scum.

Ah I see, lovely you can detect my hint of dry sarcasm with those sentences to call me a condescending asshole, but cant seem to read the conclusion of my post, ya know, the most important part that states the point:

(3)Its not, if you're referring to question 2, and if you're not, it helps to use direct subjects in questions, not pronouns. Nice bait by the way,

I don't personally think Echo's claim holds water but I do think the fact that you seem to be in panic mode makes it worth the vote for pressure. I honestly cant say if you're 100% scum, but i think some pressure will help me decide in the end.

Thank you for atleast being clear with what you're saying, I'm gonna have a lot of fun having pull teeth everytime I want to know what you're saying.

Also, will you be playing the entire game as a condescending asshole? Is it some sort of role play?

Nah, I just happen to be a condescending asshole to everyone, or atleast I am when deciphering what you're trying to say takes so much time (with the exception of your post before you panic, could we get your posts to resemble that atleast?). Please be clear and direct when saying things, and I cant seriously remember the last time direct anger baiting (The calling me a condescending asshole bit so i'm clear) ever worked.

POST AUTHORSHIP Since you posted with a more thoughtful post since i started writing: Thats what i'm looking for as far as clarity goes, and to itterate more on why I think you were in panic mode: Shortfire posts, the lack of clarity, the primary use of ethos rather logos in arguments. I repeat this since i'm demanding a sense of quality from your posts, I might as well hold myself to the same standard.

Can you two stop this, separate arguments is anti-town, all I see is 2 fuckwits arguing over a point made several pages ago and escalating it so which ever of you is scum can use it as material for your wagon later.

He calls the wagon anti-town, while not actually trying to solve who is town or scum.

I am so not looking forward to failing to read Balki this game.

Also, will you be playing the entire game as a condescending asshole? Is it some sort of role play?

nah, either vig just shoots whoever or they shoot the common scumreads
telling vig to shoot you p1 is WIFOM and unhelpful

Wowie MM4, look at you.
So helpful.

Thanks I try.

VOTE: Kawso

VOTE: DeltaW

So many empty posts, if you want to call my stuff fake, actually put some stuff in the thread of substance, that's why I come daily so there's enough substance to mkae a post about it.

"Is not giving reasons for votes the new meta, or would you care to enlighten any of us?"
this really doesn't have anything to do with the general consensus on how scummy people are

Makes you seem more scummy.
VOTE: Mario

^ this isn't a genuine evaluation

^this is the main meat of my case
if you (not referring to anyone in particular here) do not like the delta lynch- you should post your alternative case

i don't necessarily like his read on mario or the reasons why, but i sure as hell don't scum read him for a read that i dislike

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by in-genuine are you talking about his "Makes you seem more scummy"??

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I really fail to see scum motivation in attempting to find shit on you out of all people

OMGUS seems too obvious and I don't think scum like ever do that

also there's not that much scummy shit in your iso to push on

I see scum!delta pushing somebody like Bella or siblings or maybe even kawso but not you

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i see OMGUS votes come way more often from town who just doesn't want to die as opposed to scum and OMGUS seems to be the only thing that delta has on you mario

DELTA COME POSSSSSSTTTTTT

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Lol almost 10 pages get fucked

pretty much me and Mario arguing about delta dw

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as long as it's not fucking RC cause I'm going to cry if I town read him and he flips scum one more fucking time

Who/What is RC?

RadiantCowbells

makes me want to slit my fucking wrists when he takes over as power town and flips scum

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EchoVision's pushing me for nothing. From Echo's POV, Delta and I are two slots that haven't posted much yet he's deciding to push me for whatever reason.

MariaF's push on me is based off of me set up posting and me overreacting. Bet you can't justify how they're scummy.

I've definitely given reasons for why I'm pushing you

and you have more than ten posts delta doesnt

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I don't see how Gamma and Echo have done anything townie. I'm never buying your tone read on Echo or anybody.

Like the most notable thing Echo has done is instead of taking the first inactive slot lynch given to him, he decided to counterwagon onto a 2nd inactive slot given to him.

so do you sus me at all or are you just trying to discredit my push against you

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If you're gonna put words in my mouth at least tell me what it is I truly believe, clarity goes a long way in conversation

Sure. It's quite clear:

If you wanna look town by making the first accusation, at least don't crumble as soon as someone half observes you making the move you're accusing someone else of making

Here's a protip next time you get anything non townie, or even if you do get townie, Less is more.

You have suggested, with much more certainty than SPD, that I am scum.

Ah I see, lovely you can detect my hint of dry sarcasm with those sentences to call me a condescending asshole, but cant seem to read the conclusion of my post, ya know, the most important part that states the point:

(3)Its not, if you're referring to question 2, and if you're not, it helps to use direct subjects in questions, not pronouns. Nice bait by the way,

I don't personally think Echo's claim holds water but I do think the fact that you seem to be in panic mode makes it worth the vote for pressure. I honestly cant say if you're 100% scum, but i think some pressure will help me decide in the end.

Thank you for atleast being clear with what you're saying, I'm gonna have a lot of fun having pull teeth everytime I want to know what you're saying.

Also, will you be playing the entire game as a condescending asshole? Is it some sort of role play?

Nah, I just happen to be a condescending asshole to everyone, or atleast I am when deciphering what you're trying to say takes so much time (with the exception of your post before you panic, could we get your posts to resemble that atleast?). Please be clear and direct when saying things, and I cant seriously remember the last time direct anger baiting (The calling me a condescending asshole bit so i'm clear) ever worked.

POST AUTHORSHIP Since you posted with a more thoughtful post since i started writing: Thats what i'm looking for as far as clarity goes, and to itterate more on why I think you were in panic mode: Shortfire posts, the lack of clarity, the primary use of ethos rather logos in arguments. I repeat this since i'm demanding a sense of quality from your posts, I might as well hold myself to the same standard.

Can you two stop this, separate arguments is anti-town, all I see is 2 fuckwits arguing over a point made several pages ago and escalating it so which ever of you is scum can use it as material for your wagon later.

He calls the wagon anti-town, while not actually trying to solve who is town or scum.

I am so not looking forward to failing to read Balki this game.

Also, will you be playing the entire game as a condescending asshole? Is it some sort of role play?

nah, either vig just shoots whoever or they shoot the common scumreads
telling vig to shoot you p1 is WIFOM and unhelpful

Wowie MM4, look at you.
So helpful.

Thanks I try.

VOTE: Kawso

VOTE: DeltaW

So many empty posts, if you want to call my stuff fake, actually put some stuff in the thread of substance, that's why I come daily so there's enough substance to mkae a post about it.

"Is not giving reasons for votes the new meta, or would you care to enlighten any of us?"
this really doesn't have anything to do with the general consensus on how scummy people are

Makes you seem more scummy.
VOTE: Mario

^ this isn't a genuine evaluation

^this is the main meat of my case
if you (not referring to anyone in particular here) do not like the delta lynch- you should post your alternative case

i don't necessarily like his read on mario or the reasons why, but i sure as hell don't scum read him for a read that i dislike

Spoiler:

Can we PLEASE stop wall quoting?

hey I removed the image and video so wall shrunk

[EchoVision]

Trans get fucking frog in here to post about tenshii if he still scum reads slot because apparently I'm not too convincing

[EchoVision]

VOTE: Flubbernugget

Oh. He scumclaimed.

i'll get to more in a few mins but i don't like this post because you never actually say when he scum claimed and three iso posts later you vote delta even though you never read

How could you even scumread me this game? My lines are beautiful.

your whoppin 19 lines blow dick

VOTE: Flubbernugget

Oh. He scumclaimed.

i'll get to more in a few mins but i don't like this post because you never actually say when he scum claimed and three iso posts later you vote delta even though you never read

Tenshii likes to shitpost on d1. It's one of the better ideas mafia players tend to have.

in order to shitpost he has to post

#fucked

through

ALL 19

of tenshii's posts i don't really see an attempt at scum hunting which should be pretty easy because 6/17ths of the game is scum fucks

however if you're right about shitposting then i guess that's nai at this point

ALL OF YOU FUCKS WITH UNDER 20 POSTS NEED TO POOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT

[EchoVision]

I'll choose who we lynch soon. I haven't decided yet. But I want to choose.

^ this is what I'm waiting for

There's no fucking way this happens. Balki isn't anywhere close to having the crowd needed for this

pretty sure it was sarcastic lol

[EchoVision]

surprisingly

echovision is correct

jackass

[EchoVision]

VOTE: Tenshii

i just lolhammered him dw guys

[EchoVision]

Okay I caught up, I have nothing I want to add atm because I wanna sorta see a Delta flip.
-Ali

We're all that guy. 8/16 (not counting Delta himself) =

a) 2 buddies + 2 of the opposing scum team + 4 lazy Town are NOT voting him

OR

b) He's Town and we're blind and at least 4 scums are ON his wagon.

If he was Town and Scum were off the wagon then why is he not hammered already?
If he is Scum and the other team was already on him then why do like 6 Townies TR him?

Like, I really want to know why those NOT voting Delta are not. What's keeping you? What are you waiting for?

I've stated numerous times so I don't think that this was really directed towards me. I don't necessarily town read him, I just don't have a read on him. I don't see enough content in his iso to formulate a read on him and the content that is there isn't swaying me enough to a town read or to hang the guy

[EchoVision]

You are perfect in every way, Kawso.
Now we just need the other 14 players in the game to adopt CHIKORITAS

I will when I get home

what about bayleef?

[EchoVision]

WHAT ARE THESE AVI'S
like don't get me wrong chikorita best starter pokemon <3
BUT HOLY

Yeah all you chikorita wanna be fucks get outta here

[EchoVision]

There were 150 Pokémon and then there was shit

151, mew wasn't ass

[EchoVision]

favorite game was soul silver just because I could let chikorita walk with me

[EchoVision]

(expired on 2017-06-06 05:25:09) he's got until this countdown runs out to claim or I hammer

at least wait till he picks up his prod

[EchoVision]

So you find Balki to be scum because association with Delta? or are there other reasons? if so what are they?

[EchoVision]

Official Vote Count 1.36

Lynching

With 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to lynch.

DeltaW

(7): Tenshii, Bellaphant, MarioManiac4, Almost50, GameNBurger, Siblings Pet Doggo, Gamma Emerald

Tenshii

(5): Flubbernugget, EchoVision, MariaR, Sesq, Balki B

Kawso

(1): beeboy

MarioManiac4

(1): DeltaW

WhyMafia

(1): CommKnight

Nobody

(2): Kawso, WhyMafia

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-13 01:40:00)

Anyone on my wagon can go die in a hole. Flubber's hammer doesn't mean shit because as mafia it's his best play to make considering there isn't any other decent place to put his vote.

VOTE: EchoVision

so why is anyone and everyone on your wagon scum? for the sole fact that they're on your wagon?

I forgot to put my vote back but I will at end of catch up which may not be till later tonight cause I got shit to do

[EchoVision]

ehhhh scum fuck or scum fuck

Mario pick a number 1 or 2

[EchoVision]

and not obvtown echo

I scumread Echo over Balki way more though.

bc I voted ya and had semi legitimate reasons for it? Cool beans my chikorita

[EchoVision]

Yet tenshii pushed on echo all D1 and never voted echo. Instead he vote parks a guy he gave literally ZERO read on, fake hammers it for "towncred" instead of ever trying to actually read the slot despite a strong scumread on echo all D1

now he decides to vote echo after shading flubber.

Cuz I can't push multiple people? I'm dying.

Also yea Flubber is inherently getting towncred when he shouldn't be. It's the correct play to "throw shade" there.

(have the cop pick a target, make the seer target the same person the cop does which all that does is leash the seer (which is what mafia would want), then kill the cop because you know who the cop is and they are dangerous to you, and you're left with a seer that can only hunt werewolf who has been leashed the prior night).

1) Why the fuck is "leashing the seer bad?"
2) This assumes that the cop isn't going to be protected tonight.

so why is anyone and everyone on your wagon scum? for the sole fact that they're on your wagon?

You're making the implication that I scumread everyone on the wagon. I just stated I want everyone on my wagon dead. However that doesn't take away from the fact that I still scumread Echo though.

so you don't scum read people but want them dead... do I have that right?

[EchoVision]

Oh my fucking god is anything I'm going to say just going to be discredited because of everyone's shitty read on me?

I don't understand how you can't see the motivation behind the plan, it's as clear as day.

Cop and Seer will check a scummy target. The scummy target will become confirmed inno. This will force the scum to kill the confirmed inno.

then in order for them to be cleared seer has to out himself and werewolf has an easy Nightkill...

either you didn't think your plan out or you low key want seer outed

[EchoVision]

This game is like one of those bastard games with a cult in play.

Except instead of a cult, it's just chikoritas.

townread for this

/s

[EchoVision]

Or we can play FOLLOW THE COP.

I agree with Tenshii's plan. At first I didn't until he explained where the Seer doesn't actually out unless they get a guilty.

Balki, you're right, you're the scummiest person, we lynch you and then we CHECK the second most scummiest person (if they are the Seer, then they cross-check MariaF).

I personally think we should check Echo tonight as I do want to find the MAFIA (and any wolves) who didn't vote the Godfather yesterday.

Also Chiko's are taking over and Balki didn't change. He therefore is admitting to being a sock-puppet scummy.

So the plan to restate it: Lynch Balki, check Echo, if Echo is Seer, he checks MariaF.

okie dokie go for it my chikorita

I'll vote Balki when I'm done catching up. sounds like he's asking for reasons beyond what's already given just so he can try to talk his way out of shit which Idk if it's NAI or what cause I can see both sides doing it

[EchoVision]

Oh my fucking god is anything I'm going to say just going to be discredited because of everyone's shitty read on me?

I don't understand how you can't see the motivation behind the plan, it's as clear as day.

Cop and Seer will check a scummy target. The scummy target will become confirmed inno. This will force the scum to kill the confirmed inno.

then in order for them to be cleared seer has to out himself and werewolf has an easy Nightkill...

either you didn't think your plan out or you low key want seer outed

@Echo, I don't think you're correct on this.

Cop and Seer choose to scan Balki. If Balki is killed, fine. You've just directed the kill on someone that folks found scummy, and you won't waste a mislynch on that person. If Seer gets a guilty scan on Balki -- great! Seer can come forward with it, and 1/2 the remaining wolves are dead. If the scan comes out clean, Seer says nothing, Cop says nothing, and we know our town treasure is a clear town treasure.

This doesn't make it any more likely that Seer has to out. Seer would out with a guilty anyway. All this does is allow Seer to confirm people innocent without coming forward.

Yeah I read on and saw it

[EchoVision]

Okay I really don't see this much defensiveness coming from a v townie and process of elimination leads me to find your sock puppet scum

VOTE: Balki

[EchoVision]

@MOD: Since we have two lynches today, do we get the first flip immediately after the hammer or do we have to wait until there are two hammers?

[EchoVision]

fast and bulbous

were chikoritas not bulbasaurs

[EchoVision]

That's bad. We, as a town, have one main way to eliminate people. Reasoned lynches of people likely to flip scum. Let's use them wisely.

I don't read people that insult people on their wagons as town, right now your most solid defense seems to be that "the wagon is stupid" and "the people on it are stupid"

[EchoVision]

I'm sorry for not posting just reading granddad got into hospital it's quarter to one and I'm tired to do a proper message but

What's a cw?

cw is counter wagon, it's the second leading wagon in the game. For example, Balki is the main wagon and Tenshii is the counter wagon

also in sorry about your grandfather, if you want to spend time with him don't forget that you can go on V/LA and not be penalized for inactivity

[EchoVision]

That's bad. We, as a town, have one main way to eliminate people. Reasoned lynches of people likely to flip scum. Let's use them wisely.

I don't read people that insult people on their wagons as town, right now your most solid defense seems to be that "the wagon is stupid" and "the people on it are stupid"

It appears that you've carefully read my defense. Your paraphrase is spot on.

Yeah wasn't reading your fucking essay

feel free to give me a tl;dr though

[EchoVision]

@MOD: Since we have two lynches today, do we get the first flip immediately after the hammer or do we have to wait until there are two hammers?

No we have 1 since one town died in the night

Oh shit balls

[EchoVision]

That's bad. We, as a town, have one main way to eliminate people. Reasoned lynches of people likely to flip scum. Let's use them wisely.

I don't read people that insult people on their wagons as town, right now your most solid defense seems to be that "the wagon is stupid" and "the people on it are stupid"

It appears that you've carefully read my defense. Your paraphrase is spot on.

Yeah wasn't reading your fucking essay

feel free to give me a tl;dr though

* Refuses to read defense.

* Falsely paraphrases defense and tries to court hammer vote.

told you I'm not reading an essay

hang me for it, sus me for it, I really don't give a fuck. I'm not reading it...

[EchoVision]

Why would mafia not kill the cop

because they knew that he was getting protected, so why would maf waste their kill on someone who they knew wouldn't go through?? Vig sure as hell wouldn't have shot a50, iirc he didn't really have anything scummy in his iso

maybe someone just forgot to put in an nk?

[EchoVision]

Please unvote me I don't like it

Also on flubber, It seems like newbie sheeping... but he's been here for 3 years

Gosh...easy with the all caps.

All the caps?

only "ZERO" was in all caps

if that ANNOYED you try playing with WOLVERINE... MARIO knows what i'm TALKING about

[EchoVision]

Also, I suppose I shouldn't pigeonhole him into Mafia. That hammer was consistent with WW hammer too.

but then he's not doing it for credit, because if he's WW he doesn't know Delta is mafia.

And you said he did it for credit.

Also, it appears you are here now, and bella's ISO is short so give me that ISO dive.

Argh, no...I'm trying to step away. But you keep giving me one-liners that I can respond to in one line.

Right, if he is WW, he is doing it because it is a lynch that is not on a WW. If he is Mafia, he is doing it for credit. Bottom line, the hammer, after discrediting the wagon all along, and then citing no reasons for a change in opinion, is consistent with any alignment. It is no reason to townread. And there is nothing else there to townread in the rest of Flubber's play.

Opportunistic, reasonless, not looking like he's trying to solve a puzzle. Scum.

I'll do a Belladive later. Closing out!!!

just quoting this for personal reference. this is where i'm leaving off. i've been in class all day and when i wasn't i was moving shit to new house so i tired and want to chill and play some motha fuckin video games

g'night i'll see you tomorrow morning when i'm a bored mother fucker

[EchoVision]

Please unvote me I don't like it

Also on flubber, It seems like newbie sheeping... but he's been here for 3 years

Gosh...easy with the all caps.

All the caps?

only "ZERO" was in all caps

if that ANNOYED you try playing with WOLVERINE... MARIO knows what i'm TALKING about

Me too!
But please don't talk about ongoing games outside of designated channels.

wasn't really anything content based, just a mention of capital letters, so i figured it really wouldn't be a big deal

but sir yes sir

[EchoVision]

NOTICE BALKI AVOIDING THE BELLA ISO DIVE

Yes I am. I promised it in 24 hours. So, I'm clearly scum with Bella. I suggest you add an underline and perhaps a different color to really make this pop.

here you go

[EchoVision]

you could probably do this sorta potential scumreading type thing ur doing on literally anyone

i could just say that you're scum and that's why you killed a50

but i dont take that jump

because you havent actually done anything scummy outside of that

just like me

Well, you are narrowing my suspicion to my Almost50 ISO dive. There is more to it than that.

The three other reasons I suspect you are:

(1) Your hard defense of me when I was going down in flames seemed too confident;
(2) You haven't done anything useful;
(3) I don't understand how you can have a strong scumread on Bellaphant.

Perhaps you can spell out your case on Bellaphant? That might help.

i really don't understand how her confidence in your town flip causes her to be scum... scum would lolhammer the fuck out of you cause hey yay it's a day over with a free lynched townie not defend the main l-1 wagon...

maybe scum just kinda shrugs it off but they sure as hell don't defend it

[EchoVision]

My lynch funnel is {DeltaW, beeboy} as I feel they are the most likely players to be scum.

my lynch funnel is {DeltaW, beeboy, EchoVision} because they're the most likely players to be scum

/s

[EchoVision]

...@balki, i was kinda shit that game, but a bit more vocal than i have been this game. ali, trans, frog and sesq all played, and i scum-read sesq a lot. which is making me wonder if this is a playstyle issue. i'm curious as to what sesq is seeing. also, they should still talk to frog about me

@gamma, spd?

sober up and read my posts

wtf no drink more and read her posts

drinks=good

sober=bad

[EchoVision]

quick joke before i sleep

lol page 69

[EchoVision]

@sibs, i'm unhappy with the make up on the balki wagon, esp compared to flub's.

echo's catch up was baaaaaaad.

Oh whale

[EchoVision]

Also, I suppose I shouldn't pigeonhole him into Mafia. That hammer was consistent with WW hammer too.

but then he's not doing it for credit, because if he's WW he doesn't know Delta is mafia.

And you said he did it for credit.

Also, it appears you are here now, and bella's ISO is short so give me that ISO dive.

Argh, no...I'm trying to step away. But you keep giving me one-liners that I can respond to in one line.

Right, if he is WW, he is doing it because it is a lynch that is not on a WW. If he is Mafia, he is doing it for credit. Bottom line, the hammer, after discrediting the wagon all along, and then citing no reasons for a change in opinion, is consistent with any alignment. It is no reason to townread. And there is nothing else there to townread in the rest of Flubber's play.

Opportunistic, reasonless, not looking like he's trying to solve a puzzle. Scum.

I'll do a Belladive later. Closing out!!!

Why do you think as a WW I wouldn't have vote parked on tenshii in attempts to push a no lynch?

somebody would have hammered eventually no matter what. his death was inevitable

also as WW why in the fuck would you have pushed a no lynch...? that just sounds stupid???

[EchoVision]

Why is Flubber being TR'd?

Flubber didn't have any other place to put his vote. Unless he expects the lynch to fail, it's better to be on than off the wagon.

Failed lynch is a good place for scum to place a vote

not when delta flips gf

[EchoVision]

Why is Flubber being TR'd?

Flubber didn't have any other place to put his vote. Unless he expects the lynch to fail, it's better to be on than off the wagon.

Failed lynch is a good place for scum to place a vote

also you were on failed lynches, not to mention MAJOR failed lynches, all of d1 until you decided to hammer

so going by you're supporting that you're scum

[EchoVision]

can we lynch bellaphant now?

i mean come on

VOTE: bellaphant

k just for old times sake i have to

por que motha fucka

[EchoVision]

well we have 3 lynches today soimo let's just powerlynch 2 people and our third lynch we take our time on

dunnstral or tenshii can go imo

~arf

i agree with tenshii but i'd have to look at dunn

VOTE: tenshii

[EchoVision]

VOTE: tenshii

-sheepy

i fixed your tag for you

[EchoVision]

i think -- seer should out today we lynch for mafia, if we lynch the goon then the doc will save the seer and the wolves won't be able to kill them.

just, in, my, opinion.

~ruff

everyone thought that about the fucking cop and the wolves but look how that shit turned out

[EchoVision]

damb

lets do

VOTE: Dunn

l e t s f u c k i n d o

VOTE: Dunn

[EchoVision]

Lol werewolves are stupid. Seer can out for free now.

There's no reason for the mafia to NOT protect the Seer now. The Seer will ONLY find Wolves and doesn't affect the mafia's standing in anyway.

In addition, we have a free clear to lead 3 lynches.

In a worst case scenario, a wolf will CC the Seer claim. We'll be able to guarantee a wolf lynch AT WORST, and best case scenario get a wolf lynch + 2 lynches + a clear.

this is really a fucking horrible idea... there's no reason for seer to out now unless they get close to lynch and it's required to or they get a guilty

[EchoVision]

not meta

my original argument wasn't even meta, I was just trying to show other people that you actually are acting different here than another game you were town in (yeah yeah, 'multiple town games')

i'm pretty sure that's the dictionary definition of fucking meta

your case is horse shit

[EchoVision]

Echo was also supposed to be yesternight's lynch/check.

yes cause its so very difficult for someone to kill the cop then pin the blame on me because i was supposed to be the check

why did i ever leave this wagon VOTE: tenshii

also i'm still watching your ass dunn

[EchoVision]

CommKnight (6): Siblings Pet Doggo, Balki B, EchoVision, MarioManiac4, GameNBurger, Flubbernugget

DeltaW (7): Tenshii, Bellaphant, MarioManiac4, Almost50, GameNBurger, Siblings Pet Doggo, Gamma Emerald
Tenshii (5): Flubbernugget, EchoVision, MariaR, Sesq, Balki B
Kawso (1): beeboy
MarioManiac4 (1): DeltaW
WhyMafia (1): CommKnight

Nobody (2): Kawso, WhyMafia

BalkiB (7): GameNBurger, Gamma Emerald, CommKnight, MarioManiac4, Flubbernugget, EchoVision, Siblings Pet Doggo

Flubbernugget (8): Tenshii, CommKnight, MarioManiac4, MariaR, Gamma Emerald, GameNBurger, Sesq, Kawso
BalkiB (3): Flubbernugget, EchoVision, Dunnstral

EchoVision has voted town all game.

VOTE: EchoVision

also how the fuck are you going to pin the fact that you find me to have been on town wagons the whole game against me...? there were five other people on commwagon and you don't scum read them

delta was someone that i refused to vote due to his lack of content which just happened to flip scum

you're a scum fuck so i don't have to go into much detail on that

balki was voted by 6 other people and you're not scum reading them

i went bye bye for the end of d2 so i didn't unvote balki

[EchoVision]

i'm making a pact to myself to not remove my vote from tenshii unless he does something mega townie or claims or dies

[EchoVision]

bye bye

VOTE: tenshii

[EchoVision]

What do you think of echovision?

I really want to vote him now by the way he's been acting

have fun, i might even join ya

[EchoVision]

shit fuck. this vote actually matters so i'm going to hold off for a little bit before voting

[EchoVision]

Also wait what would happen if we mislynched twice and then scum killed the last two innos?

draw probably?

[EchoVision]

If one Town, one Mafia and one Werewolf remain, the Day phase is skipped with a No Lynch.

No draw

ah

[EchoVision]

I think it's worth considering whether a nolynch for our 3rd lynch is a viable option

At 8 people alive, 3 kills means we'd be at 5 people alive for the following day

We'all cross that bridge if there's another mislynch

Espescially because the vig has shot town twice

how do you know who vig shot n1????

ya know a little more than us don't ya...

[EchoVision]

Spoiler: Dead Players Hide
DeltaW, Mafia Godfather, was lynched day one.
Almost50, Vanilla Townie, was killed night one.
beeboy, Werewolf Alpha, was killed night one.
Flubbernugget, Vanilla Townie, was lynched day two.
Gamma Emerald, Vanilla Townie, died night three.
Balki B, Vanilla Townie, died night three.
CommKnight, Town Cop, died night three.
Tenshii, Vanilla Townie, was lynched day three.

@Mod: Gamma, Balki, and Comm died night two

I'm dumb. Fixed.

[EchoVision]

This is in post one btw just to clarify

[EchoVision]

I think it's worth considering whether a nolynch for our 3rd lynch is a viable option

At 8 people alive, 3 kills means we'd be at 5 people alive for the following day

We'all cross that bridge if there's another mislynch

Espescially because the vig has shot town twice

I'll be waiting on an explanation for this before i decide where/who to vote

[EchoVision]

VOTE: gamenburger

kachow

[EchoVision]

UNVOTE: game

grrrrr kawso or dunn grrrrrrrrrrrrrr which one i can't decide grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[EchoVision]

no you wouldn't have cause scum don't have day chat which you know but you're playing dumb

[EchoVision]

VOTE: kawso

i made my decision

[EchoVision]

hey dumbshits

game slipped

the fuck you doing

game next lynch kawso now lynch?

[EchoVision]

red text therefore scum claim /s

[EchoVision]

I think Seer should claim here ftr

why does everybody believe so strongly that seer should out while under no pressure when they don't have a guilty??

[EchoVision]

yeah saw the claim

well i've been bamboozled

UNVOTE:
why did game lose attraction again?

VOTE: gamenburger

[EchoVision]

echo, are you scum with sesq?

dude i'm scum with u wtf

[EchoVision]

bella who are your top two scum reads and what fac do you think they're from

[EchoVision]

zzzz

[EchoVision]

GNB, Dunn, Maria, Sesq, SPD

[EchoVision]

echo i'm reading your iso and am utterly confused
why did you unvote gnb in 2355?
and why is gnb scum?

found kawso and Dunn as bigger threats at the time

I'll iso dig eventually but main thing is scum claim

[EchoVision]

also why the hell did you say there was nothing to read delta from in his posting
did you even try

there was like 9 posts iirc and none of which really had content

[EchoVision]

ok now i think echo is mafia
which means he's probably town idk

*shrug*

[EchoVision]

Yeah I'd bet the game on Dunn town.

how do you get to this conclusion?

also what are your thoughts on me after Mario's posts?

[EchoVision]

VOTE: mariar

k I have to

POR QUÉ MOTHA FUCKA

[EchoVision]

Never fear, Vedith is here!

My first call of action - We should lynch Maria!

hi Idk you but I like your avi

[EchoVision]

also why the hell did you say there was nothing to read delta from in his posting
did you even try

there was like 9 posts iirc and none of which really had content

this is wrong and your reasons for townreading him were extremely sketchy

I didn't really town read him, I just didn't have a read on him because I couldn't form one from his lack of content

[EchoVision]

page top

can you clarify in more depth Mario?

[EchoVision]

Right in order for more discussion it seems we need a fucking flip so

VOTE: Game

and i was just about to unvote so that vedith could continue with whatever the fuck he was trying to say... ._.

[EchoVision]

instead of having vedith continue to try to lynch obvtown for nonsensical reasons we could just lynch him \o/

i was going to vote him because he's just kinda pushing everybody who manages to push him and he's just kinda reaching

happy birthday vedith

[EchoVision]

Official Vote Count 3.3.00

Lynching

With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch. Town has two lynches left in the day.

Anybody

(0):

Nobody

(8): Sesq, Vedith, Dunnstral, MariaR, MarioManiac4, Siblings Pet Doggo, Kawso, EchoVision

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-07-07 03:35:00)

don't we only have one lynch left??

[EchoVision]

I don't want to lynch Vedith

i do

VOTE: Vedith

[EchoVision]

I want SPD around tomorrow tho to find scum fucks with me ((((

also who's plan was that, doggos??

ALSO MARIO FUCK YOU YOU CHANGED YOUR FUCKING PROFILE PICTURE FUCKING FUCK FUCK CHIKORITAS MAN FUCK STARLEY

[EchoVision]

for me that's really easy to imagine
mafia is echo and vedith
ww is sesq and maria
and there are more with you inside it which makes your 3 not so viable
I would totally be up for a sesq lynch tho if we could make it happen

just a quick question why is dunn off the hook?

[EchoVision]

vedith says i wanted to lynch sesq because everyone wanted it and because this wasn't true i must be scum because of the clear scum motivation behind this
i explained that i meant that everyone wanted gnb
despite this being true and nothing going against it being true vedith plugs his fingers in his ears

Well that's another lie.
I said that was your response. Quote where I said otherwise.

What's that, like 10 lies I've pulled out from You?

not really a lie more a misinterpritation

misinterpritation =/ scum

[EchoVision]

throughout all of the reads in this day i don't really think i've seen much for town!dunn or against town!dunn which idk about cause iirc i never let him off the hook from yesterday (i believe)

[EchoVision]

Im not lybching outside of mario.
I proved him in his lies.

thought you were okay with sesq lynch?

[EchoVision]

Don't care

Do my bidding

We spend the day with 4 brains lynching the conf scum and having thy vig stress about making a fatal decision by him/herself by lynching v. Let's go for the bigger fish aka Echo.

i'm only 5'8" i don't really classify myself as big

[EchoVision]

meh
VOTE: echo

so to clarify you earlier stated that you weren't completely sure on my slot, followed by you saying that you only knew that vedith and sesq were scum, to which you said you would only lynch in there.

THEN, after Vedith self-votes, you decide, hey, lets vote echo for really no reason after saying i was un sure of his alignment

nice one

[EchoVision]

i absolutely despise the fluidity in Mario's voting...

I hate to agree with vedith because i certainly didn't read him as town in the slightest extent, but it sure as hell feels like you backed down to a simple vig threat

VOTE: Mario

[EchoVision]

then let's hear the reasons that you had your vote on me for a solid hour before jumping to a sesq wagon that had potential to gain steam and go choo choo

[EchoVision]

i absolutely despise the fluidity in Mario's voting...

like seriously what fucking reason is this to vote someone at this point

actually a good reason because at this point i'm pretty sure we've established that for us it's lylo which means

this vote matters

. it shouldn't be thrown around so easily

quite obviously my reads have been ass so far this game considering i haven't done jack shit and i was defending the only person who ended up flipping scum so it brought me to rethinking my reads and since your latest play was fucking horrid my ideas on you have been altered

[EchoVision]

Echo scum claimed.

So scum are Echo, Sesq, Mario and Dunn.

Easy game easy money.

*shrug*

where exactly did i scum claim?

[EchoVision]

damn good game

[EchoVision]

was kinda fucked from the beginning when our gf was getting wagoned and i got sad lmao