Open 690: Kill All Townies - Game Over

[Kawso]

VOTE: Siblings Pet Doggo

Can never trust a borker

[Kawso]

{MarioManiac4}
{Bellaphant, Almost50, Gamma Emerald, Kawso}
{beeboy, Siblings Doggo, Balki B, CommKnight}
{Sesq, Tenshii, havingfitz, DeltaW}
{EchoVision, Flubbernugget, Hawk, GameNBurger}

Why is someone like Balki & someone like Flubber in different tiers, considering neither have posted?

[Kawso]

My post was joke analysis to a joke post haha

Balki seems to be taking this pressure quite defensively, which could either mean scum/ PR. I don't see him being vanilla. Personally I can't say either, as in the game I played with him, he was rarely questioned.

Seems like we're still in the gradual stages of switching from Joking random voting to proper discussion, so I'd like to see some opinions on some of the other people not being discussed heavily

[Kawso]

I had some suspicion it was a joke... considering the people who hadn't posted were included...

Gotta say I REALLY dislike Mario's vote on me without anything else in his post. If you can at least provide a reason that'd be a lot more helpful for us.

[Kawso]

You'd think me messing up and implying that someone might be scum during the day might be because I don't have a scumchat?

UNVOTE:

[Kawso]

Each role pm is in the op it'd be easy enough to copy it all, no?

[Kawso]

In my opinion I'm ruling the siblings & Balki out as scumpartners, the intereaction seems genuine, although a tad sheepish on Balki's end.
I feel Comm's taking a little bit of style over substance, answering everything with a sarcastic tone, though it's not unreasonable for town to get bitter at being hard pushed.

[Kawso]

The PR comment was admittedly a result of me rushing to get a post in & provide worthwhile content. I said it, as I wasn't sure of your alignment, and thus wanted people to stop fully scumreading you. Looking back, I'd have worded it differently as to not imply you may be a PR.


I'm pretty new, but would i be so obvious as to mark myself like that as scum?

[Kawso]

@tenshii: You've made 5 votes today, 2 have been random votes, 2 have been 1 line questions & you have a three line analysis. Would you care to provide some more reads, or opinions

[Kawso]

Because sometimes I feel that If i'm visiting the site but not making a comment, people might scumread me for playing cautiously. In fact, it's kinda the reason I asked Tens to share some reads.

I thought people were wasting their time with balki. I think it might be better now to keep our eye on him, but he was a townlean of mine.

[Kawso]

I think the siblings are really making a good case, though I saw some other games mentioned, can anyone link them for me, idk where i'd be looking.

[Kawso]

Also, what are some of your other thoughts, siblings, you seem to be going solely in on comm

[Kawso]

Whew I'm sure glad Balki stopped pushing Kawso.
It's my job to deathtunnel Kawso as scum.

Is calling me a townlord your new version of townso

[Kawso]

i've been playing for 2 years on a more casual level

I agree with a lot of your reads, though I'm not 100% sold on Tenshii, they just seem to be asking questions about others, not providing much themself.

[Kawso]

Not yet, I prefer keeping my vote more fluid in the early stages.

i assume this makes you scumread me too

[Kawso]

Have we ruled out the possibility of both Comm & Siblings being Scum? It's unlikely, but if that's the case, then the real cop shouldn't out.

Actually, could it be viable for each of us to hypoclaim cop/seer tomorrow?

[Kawso]

It's not my main thought, but i just wanted to raise a couple points up

[Kawso]

Probably shouldn't post within 10 minutes of waking up

[Kawso]

I don't like voting d1 and my top scumread is probably Tenshii

[Kawso]

L-3 actually

I don't like permanently voting sorry for not clearing it up

[Kawso]

Delta before you die share some reads or something if you're town

[Kawso]

Waiting for Delta before there's any chance of a hammer tbh

[Kawso]

Wait we're voting someone with 9 posts....wut

Looking at your posts I assume you want us to lynch Tenshii? I agree that they're fairly scummy, but you're failing to give true reasoning other than general "eww this post is trash" attacking the post, rather than their alignment

[Kawso]

Part of me wants to see Delta get subbed out for someone who responds to a L-1

[Kawso]

Surely you can derive some alignment vibes from Tenshii's posts though? "Ew this post is trash" comments aren't any more helpful, even if you are a recent sub.


Also even with Delta's lacklustre activity before hand, even I tend to clam up a little if there's a large wagon against me. If you haven't decided who to vote, please refrain from hammering him until he's either replaced or talks

[Kawso]

Oops didn't notice all the extra posts

[Kawso]

They'd know if they're wagoning their own, so it shouldn't matter if it's the other faction.

Imo I don't think Mario, the main pusher of delta is scum, but I think it was easy for scum to join, regardless of how delta flips.

[Kawso]

Why would i even claim tracker d1 when I'm not getting lynched

[Kawso]

Kawso there are 6 scum in this game.
Who are they?

I can't say off the top of my head, but I'm townreading both you & echo

Why would i even claim tracker d1 when I'm not getting lynched

What do you mean by this?

You explaining that there wasn't a tracker in this setup, so i'm saying it would be illogical for me to have been known as tracker.


I'll have a quick look back and try to figure out some scumreads

[Kawso]

I think it could be both tenshii & Delta actually but i think they're different teams. Maria's push away from Delta could be Scum getting the target off their partner, but it's almost too obvious

[Kawso]

Looks like low budget omgus to me

Will do a big post later have Family round

[Kawso]

Kinda wanta hammer him so we don't have to put up with the waiting game but that's a bad move

[Kawso]

Almost at two days...

[Kawso]

Am i cool yet?

[Kawso]

Gen 4 has a large portion of my favourites, but Gen 5 introduced a severe power creep

[Kawso]

Oooh nice!

Do we know who killed who though?

[Kawso]

@Mod can a mafia or werewolf doctor use their protect and kill together in a night?

Pretty sure the rules say no

[Kawso]

I'll put balkiwagon back up to 5 he looks worse than tenshii rn

VOTE: Balki B

[Kawso]

I prefer the number 5

UNVOTE:

[Kawso]

I'm sorry for not posting just reading granddad got into hospital it's quarter to one and I'm tired to do a proper message but

What's a cw?

[Kawso]

Out of fear the ww doc would protect comm? Bad play by them imo but:/

[Kawso]

Out of fear the ww doc would protect comm? Bad play by them imo but:/

You seem frustrated about that.

I just want to make people feel bad for making a bad play:)

[Kawso]

Please unvote me I don't like it

Also on flubber, It seems like newbie sheeping... but he's been here for 3 years

[Kawso]

Ok how about i go so i stop panic posting

[Kawso]

Maria isn't confirmed inno btw

[Kawso]

Sorry just wanted to pop in quickly and say that while maria isn't clear I don't think you're ww so im not trying to throw shade.

Probably be more active soon

[Kawso]

I'm against a lynch on balki here:/ sesq? said we need to understand meta, so looking at his other game he produced an impressive scumgame (admittedly it was newbie but we ended up with a majority of veterans iirc.) I don't see him faltering like this now, so I don't particularly agree with the votes on him now.

Also game, you'd be pretty accurate with casting me as new, I am to the site at least.

[Kawso]

I have

game
Balki
gamma/Maria(ish)

For scum

Any thoughts as to the alignment of these 4?

[Kawso]

I'll give you until :35 to sort out which 4 are scum and which alignment they are or I'm hammering:)

[Kawso]

Since both godfathers are not in play,

I think Cop!CommKnight should announce a target to check tonight. The target should be the most scummiest person. The Seer should follow through and check that target as well.

This will result in either:
1) Scummy target being dead
2) Scummy target being confirmed inno

This is Tenshii's plan. Definitely not an unreasonable one

[Kawso]

He's been online since I posted the deal which is annoying. Shame, I wanted to see where he sorted everyone after a flip

[Kawso]

Sorry pod for doing a vote count

Sorry everyone for being late

Sorry Flubb if you're town (

not at all

)

VOTE: Flubbernugget

[Kawso]

I'm against a lynch on balki here:/ sesq? said we need to understand meta, so looking at his other game he produced an impressive scumgame (admittedly it was newbie but we ended up with a majority of veterans iirc.) I don't see him faltering like this now, so I don't particularly agree with the votes on him now.

Also game, you'd be pretty accurate with casting me as new, I am to the site at least.

you're forgetting the one game where i hardcore lurked and bussed a bit

Well how far did that strategy get you?

[Kawso]

slides a lone chip onto mafia

[Kawso]

Uh

Is this about the hammer? It's probably about the hammer isn't it? Did I just hammer the person who hammered last phase?

[Kawso]

Just claim gdi you're at lynch-1 aaaaaaaaaa


Also i do think there's merit to seer outing this phase.

[Kawso]

Dunn
Are you, or are you not seer/vig?

[Kawso]

It's better than townso...

[Kawso]

I wanted to vote Tenshii d1

2 days late but here goes

VOTE: Tenshii
(L-1)


Might do a little ISO of tenshii?

[Kawso]

That's 3 votes against me it's quite the bandwagon

[Kawso]

Even at vt i'd have claimed but.

I doubt I'd have hammered you though, just a bit of pressure.

[Kawso]

I know it's early but I think we should see a flip and spend more discussion on the next lynches too

[Kawso]

Looks to me like an attempt to copy previous gameplay and provide evidence:p

[Kawso]

Well we got a flip, that's for sure

[Kawso]

Only half of us are town at this point, and an eighth are town prs

Ideally we're able to lynch one scum and follow through with a lynch on someone of that faction.

[Kawso]

Also wait what would happen if we mislynched twice and then scum killed the last two innos?

[Kawso]

I'm tired ok shh

[Kawso]

Well I'm town and I do care...

Probably wmould have been better placed direct to the gm

[Kawso]

Also if I were maf I'd have put it in the scumchat, no?

[Kawso]

I'm an idiot aren't I

[Kawso]

Maybe the seer should out if we're at so called lylo

[Kawso]

So I'm at L-2

About to sleep so don't hammer me if I'm at L-1 that's a dick move

[Kawso]

I think Seer should claim here ftr

Was kinda hoping maf would fake claim, but it's me

Beboy n0
Echo isn't wolf

[Kawso]

Pretty sure we have SPD as scum:/

Not super sure echo parners fantastically with anyone as mafia though, so I tr him

[Kawso]

Did everyone spontaneously combust or something?

[Kawso]

Spd, Game, Dunn, Bella

[Kawso]

Dunn is town

Like I am 100% sure on Dunn town

Yeah I'd bet the game on Dunn town.

Dunn is obv town

Dunn is lock town..

Dunn wouldn't come for me as scum and his case on me seemed very genuine and something I doubt he can fake

Would you say Maria's trying to "pocket" you, or buddy up at the least?
omg

[Kawso]

Oops really messed that quote up

[Kawso]

Heads up, Game is at L-1

[Kawso]

Well this is unfortunate

Not the vig, I'm just a VT sorry guys

I stumbled bad and made shitty plays on day 2 and 3 so honestly I've set myself up as lynchbait

Get doggo and probably Dunn

My reads have been bad elsewhere but I'm sure of doggo

Otherwise it'll be really boring to me if scum really just ends up being Maria echo sesq and vedith

Which probably means that's how it'll go down but oh well

Mario if you're scum hats off because man that was some flawless game

Also maybe echovison but I'm inclined to think town ther, but it's close to 50/50

altho I wish I had more time play with vedith

But yes doggo and Dunn are who I hope are scum, although it will probably be the more boring choices

Okay I'm repeating myself at this point

Sibs has stepped off the wagon tho which piques my interest

They'd have every reason to be on it and hammer honestly

Hmm

Ehh I'm dead and I've been wrong at pretty much every turn so in all likeliehood don't listen to me this game and you'll be fine

Also sorry to anyone who got the asshole side of me, it's very much a play style and nothing else I promise!

And yes I hate these posts but scum have been using me as lynchbait pretty much all days at this point and idk I don't feel like I'm bouncing back

If Doggo and Dunn are scum, do you think they're in the same team? If so who do you think's on the other team,

[Kawso]

Right in order for more discussion it seems we need a fucking flip so

VOTE: Game

[Kawso]

I got frustrated that there was no discussion i messed up bad

[Kawso]

Is this game nightless?

No, we'll have a night after this lynch.

I'm not sure what SPD's doing, considering they were my strongest scumread. Maybe some form of reverse psychology?

[Kawso]

Also i'll be dying tonight, so that's fun!

[Kawso]

Aaaaa should have been prodded by now

Before anything gets hammered, who do you guys want me to investigate tonight?

[Kawso]

Going to assume sesq isn't claiming vig

[Kawso]

I was so close to pushing SPD aaaa

[Kawso]

Time to get rid of the chikorita too!