Open 691: Jungle Republic (ENDGAME)
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Not in the position to give reads. But I don't see why a Mafia would claim WW.In post 620, NotTheRealPaul wrote:do u belive gin's ww claim? why or why not?-
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Yeah, I don't see the point of keeping the scum claim alive, even though I think Gingham is just trying to be a noble quitting werewolf.
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Why does it matter? Do you doubt the seer claim?In post 634, Tails wrote:
Why investigate Bins and not me or Paul?In post 625, Almost50 wrote: You know what? Fuck it! Guys. I'm the Seer, and Bins is NOT WW. Now let's lynch the WW so I can become your IC and live to end game.-
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Explain the Wisdom townread? Or have you?In post 632, Tails wrote:
I'd prefer just having a majority. I don't even trust the shot to Wisdom by himself, and he's the towniest player in the game outside of myself.In post 553, GinghamDog wrote:How about the Seer makes the decision on who I kill? Or just have all players vote.
Questioning the Seer inspect is weird to me UNLESS you doubt the seer claim (do you???). What good is telling A50 his choice doesn't make sense? Unless you are just hounding on play here, then fine, carry on-
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He can shoot the mafia for us... wrong? Like how do we know the shots are going to help us? The mafia are also being asked who the shot should be, you realize this right? I'd rather the killing role be gone and we just decide the game on our own with lynches. 7v3 nightless isn't exactly a mafia win, right? 7v3 with a vig who is just shooting with as much knowledge as we have is more uncertain.
Bah, so I don't get Wisdom's logic. Also, why the fuck are you posting seven times in a row? I'd lynch that.-
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Even though he was allowed to claim, he still has to play TO HIS WINCON. I don't see how that's ever going to equate to FULLY protown.
And Tails, I don't see how you define "clearly wisdom's town game" / not his scum game. I thought Wisdom is hard to read? And sure he got us the correct lynch D1, but it is multiball, and mafia want werewolves dead just as much as we do.-
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I do that too, and that's more forgivable. I meant more him breaking down A50's post / other posts without multiquoting or breaking up the one quote.In post 660, NotTheRealPaul wrote:lol sprry in advance then bins sometimes I post a thought then something comes to me and then i have to ebwop and suddenly ive pisted 5+ in a row
I don't think you're lying, but I don't honestly understand what your endgame was by claiming? It technically is against wincon to claim scum and no town is ever going to reach consensus to let an anti-town role live longer than maybe a day MAX. You were never going to win, don't understand why you're surprised. Like even if town were to win with your help... you wouldn't be given an "honorary" win. You would have lost.In post 661, GinghamDog wrote:
It's true. But this is mafiascum.net, where everything is considered a lie, so what the fuck ever.In post 654, MMM wrote:
I highly doubt that lolIn post 653, GinghamDog wrote:I've never been lynched in the 8+ years I've been playing mafia
I hammered. I'm dead. See ya.
Whatever team Wisdom is on, I hope that one wins. The lone voice of reason if he's town. And if he's scum, he deserves it.
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You're townreading him for having the same logic as you in a multiball game when most of this game has been about the WWs so far? Any *strong* townread at this point without paranoia seems strange.In post 662, MMM wrote:
OhIn post 659, Bins wrote:I'm only joking about the policy
I've come to virtually the same conclusions as him independently when I caught up so in my case, if you think I'm scummy for strongly town reading him, I think you should explain.Still, all strong townreads on Wisdom are scummy, tbf.-
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I don't see how Wisdom isn't very capable of just faking town motivation as Mafia? It's not like we were going to ever leave Gingham alive and THE NIGHTKILL IS KNOWN (and discussed), so if the chosen NK was town, why wouldn't mafia be okay with this? These things don't add up to a reason to townread.-
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In post 426, MMM wrote:Wisdom votes are hilarious.
It's this sort of scenario that I find ridiculous.In post 427, Wisdom wrote:mmm can be town-
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Wisdom (and if people are saying Wisdom is the "voice of reason this game", even more so him) gets a say in the nightkill. Mafia benefit from this as well if town's reads are incorrect.
I still find his logic incorrect if coming from townread. Antitown roles should die and 6v3 (I realize this number was wrong in my previous post) with no nightkill is not a HORRIBLE situation (not as horrible as it could be with MAFIA having a say in the NIGHT KILL done by an ANTITOWN role).-
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Just the way he's managed to grab control of the game by throwing out very quick reads, calling posts simply bad and calling people simply "town." + how he's so against lynching a werewolf. Idk. Again, not my biggest scumread, but strong townreads on a slot like that always weird me out.-
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I can also understand the angle (if he's town) that Mafia would be afraid to scumread Wisdom considering he is seemingly townreading the people who are townreading him (not saying he's wrong).-
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A vig without a town wincon? Funny.In post 679, Wisdom wrote:essentially lynching a vig-
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...? Why not? To fuck with us? You realized she claimed an anti-town role and could no longer win? Playing to town's wincon was not something she ever had to do.In post 682, Wisdom wrote:As if there was a chance she wouldnt shoot who we told her to
... also what's the difference compared to voting on a lynch in nightless and voting on a vig shot...?
Seriously, you making this into a huge issue is weird.-
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when it comes to a third party survivor or lyncher maybeIn post 685, Wisdom wrote:are you incapable of understanding the concept of leashing?
when ging cant win? no-
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Oh, sorry. Was I to assume you just wanted to straight up cheat in this game? Giving one team an unfair advantage (not sure which, tbh) and play towards a wincon that isn't yours? My bad.In post 705, GinghamDog wrote:
If you'd read my posts (clearly you didn't), you'd see that I know that. I wasn't intending to win.In post 663, Bins wrote: I don't think you're lying, but I don't honestly understand what your endgame was by claiming? It technically is against wincon to claim scum and no town is ever going to reach consensus to let an anti-town role live longer than maybe a day MAX. You were never going to win, don't understand why you're surprised. Like even if town were to win with your help... you wouldn't be given an "honorary" win. You would have lost.
Just my 5 cents.
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How 'bout read the rules, Mr. Reading Comprehension.In post 1, CommKnight wrote:Play to win.
I know you asked the mod. But it wasn't going to last long once it actually became you playing for an alignment you aren't.-
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It's against the rules and frankly seems unfun for everyone involved. Next time just play.In post 545, GinghamDog wrote:I'll gladly work with town to kill mafia in exchange for being endgamed and not lynched.-
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... so that I can cheer for an alignment that isn't mine!In post 712, GinghamDog wrote:Yo Wisdom, whip these fuckers into shape for me.-
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Math, I literally have 0 idea why you're reading me as one of your top scumreads. If you truly are town, you're really going to need to convince me that you ACTUALLY believe I'm scum, because right now it looks pulled out of thin air.-
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^ Pretty much how I feel about most of what you've said about me rn.In post 775, MMM wrote:
This is bullshit regardless of your alignment.In post 773, MathBlade wrote:If MMM was Town no way he puts me at L-1 when I could insta hammer if I was scum with him. Since MMM didn't think about that MMM is scum.-
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right ok i really don't want to play with this math slot so can we please get rid of it
i want you to explain to me because its the reason im scumreading you but if youre 100% certian im scum cool enjoy the bad vote-
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this is where I get the idea that you're treating me as 100% scum without the possibility that i'm actually town which yeah frustrates me a little bitIn post 811, MathBlade wrote:Explain to me why I have to do the futile act of convincing my scumread they are scum.
and I know your vote was on ntrp but I don't get that scumread either so shrug-
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???In post 817, MathBlade wrote:Lol it has been explained.
this is pretty much a lie
fuck games these days being filled with people who are probably town but impossible to play with-
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I get this okIn post 833, Wisdom wrote:idk, some posts gave me "uhh maybe this wont flip scum" vibes-
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MathBlade / Wisdom / NotTheRealPaul {If these are my reads how tf has this been the two major wagons}
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Vedith / Dunkerdoodles - everything dunk has done has been opportunistic or literally just saying "I'm town" over and over, it's shit iso
Vedith is really likely not town. I understand that Math has the ability to fake aggression as scum but it pisses me off too much to read into.
NTRP has been giving me town vibes all game, I don't get the huge wagon on him.
Wisdom is actually probably town and I let ~paranoia~ get to me.
MMM is very up in the air because I can see what he's doing as scum faking it but also his conversations seem natural.
The rest I don't see a reason to townread.-
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