Open 692 - Two-fold Matrix6 (Game Over)

[Realeo]

*Waves hand*

Hello!

[Realeo]

Plus, who uses that ugly green emoji ever!?

You sir, has no tastes.

[Realeo]

VOTE: oldwino too much talkie

Is this RVS or real shit? Can't tell the difference.

[Realeo]

Wait? Those thing are French? I thought Judge is having an affair with Aristo and those are some kind of safe word.

Anyway. Me gonna say something that will help us exit RVS.

Guys, please stop voting me. It's L-3

[Realeo]

Wait? Those thing are French? I thought Judge is having an affair with Aristo and those are some kind of safe word.

Anyway. Me gonna say something that will help us exit RVS.

Guys, please stop voting me. It's L-3

Is that the thing?

I'll unvote you if you tell me who I should put my vote on instead.

Hah! I know someone can't refuse to react to my statement. Now we can exit RVS.

If you say

I'll unvote you if you tell me

, are you saying

I'm actually scumreading you, Realeo. The only way I'm not voting you is if someone is scummier

?

I'm tempted to classify that statement as continuation of RVS, but

is that the thing?

implies you are actually serious with your statement.

[Realeo]

Shouldn't you decide that for yourself?

VOTE: Kantrip

Quick clarification : Is that RVS or serious vote?

[Realeo]

Aristo, are you scum again?

[Realeo]

Oh wait, scratched that. I forget that you was fake scum, not real scum.

[Realeo]

VOTE: oldwino too much talkie

Is this RVS or real shit? Can't tell the difference.

Yes. Yes it is.

I don't know what does yes mean. (Yes RVS or Yes, real shit) but if the latter, wouldn't Aristo is too talky by your definition? Some people are getting serious while he is still in joke mode?

[Realeo]

Ah ok =P

[Realeo]

The offer still stands, by the way. I'm leaning towards either PMysterious or Draynth, what do you think?

Offer me again when BTD replaces Gamma. Too early to cast vote without full team.

[Realeo]

Oh. Gamma already replaced out? Dave replaced in.

Ok, me take the offer.

VOTE: Pymestrious

[Realeo]

Yes.

[Realeo]

No. I didn't say anything about the seriousness. And aristo had the same amount of posts. Me not calling out aristo should give you reason to believe you don't know my definition. Yet you presume to. Why? Are you trying to make something out of nothing?

Yes.

I have learn not to assume when it comes to RVS so I just keep clarifying.

[Realeo]

I will not be surprised if at least 2 members of the Mafia and/or Werewolf team are on the wagon as of now.

Most likely 1.

PMysterious, have you ever heard reaction test?

I think this is going to be my first (not second) serious vote.

VOTE: Aristo

I can't tell if this is scum or he is bound to scratch me the wrong way, me not feeling gud.

[Realeo]

That's gross.

[Realeo]

That's gross.

Sorry man, prolly too far. I should take th his more seriously, eh?

What is your Mysterio read btw?

Considering it as play style clash.

[Realeo]

Reasons for this vote? (Same question for Kantrip)

Pressure vote.

[Realeo]

Reads to me like genuine misunderstanding over a scummy contradiction, though.

I endorse this product.

Realeo - any reason for the Ari vote besides a gut feel?

There is something called from EpicMafia called fillering. It's a condition where scum are unable to fake scumhunting so he talk something else. Methink that is what happening.

[Realeo]

oldwino, most of your scumread reasoning are "post feels empty."

What do you mean with post feels empty? I think my post is the fullest. You can't have people start talking about ppmysterious if I don't start that. I advance the game. Townread me.

And how lane is forced? I think he's the one who progresses the game. He is the one who points out the contradiction of ppmysterious.

And how does "me not noticing PP replaces Gamma" is scumread?

Woah. Woah. Realeo. You seems so defensive.

Because the readlist doesn't makes senses.

If Aristo is a scumlean, I'm fine.

But if Aristo is null, I don't understand why PP is a scum but Aristo is a null.

To add that, I don't understand why every scumlean is a scum but Aristo is a null.

[Realeo]

You can't say "I don't have enough content from Aristo so I null him," because that is exactly the reason why you scumread half of your scum lean.

[Realeo]

I'm here, but it's early so what would you actually like me to address?

Things.

[Realeo]

Vla for next 24 hours

[Realeo]

I'm currently catching up. Reading 1st ultra long wall.

Quick notes; for future ultra long wall, uses color for question instead of just bold.

Trust me, an effective ultra long wall gives me a victory as scum. I know what an effective ultra long wall post looks like.

[Realeo]

Realeo accuses Ari of not providing enough content, but then when Ari asks what he should respond to, he gives him nothing. Looks like Realeo doesn't actually want Ari to provide content, he just wants him to get lynched.

I have different treatment.

If someone has make a read but his read is lacking details, I will coach him.

If someone has make no read at all, I will ask him to make a read first. When he did, I will coach him.

[Realeo]

Woah, that ultra wall was a prank. Disappointing.

[Realeo]

Guys, I'm role claiming.

I'm double voter.

VOTE: Judge
VOTE: Ari

I scumread Judge's sarcasm. I can understand human being sarcastic, but this is coming from a person complaining about lack of content. Smells hypocrisy when he being sarcastic about it especially the fact he has done nothing.

I mean, is it really possible that from Judge's perspective, EVERYTHING IS NAI AND EVERYTHING IS MEANINGLESS? Can't he even have scumlean or townlean?

[Realeo]

Before anyone complained, yes, I noticed I'm entering a whirlpool of "Scumread people with nothingness" but I don't think at this stage of the game, no read can be interpreted as "null 4 more content"

[Realeo]

Before anyone asks, I have townreads but not publicizing it now.

[Realeo]

Reads to me like genuine misunderstanding over a scummy contradiction, though.

I endorse this product.

Realeo - any reason for the Ari vote besides a gut feel?

There is something called from EpicMafia called fillering. It's a condition where scum are unable to fake scumhunting so he talk something else. Methink that is what happening.

actually scum can scumhunt because it's multiball.

I forgot to reply to this but it's kinda a "not necessarily true." I found that even though "theoretically" they can scumhunt, "practically" the idea that they don't have a full degree of freedom at scumhunting for some people REALLY hampers their scumhunting a lot.

[Realeo]

I don't see anything problematic about WhyMafia.

[Realeo]

With 4 days remaining; if the choice of lynch is either PM or Aristo, I'm definitely Aristo.

[Realeo]

for better understanding consult titus.

Oh God. Another player thinking Titus is a decent player. Spare me of this balooney.

[Realeo]

Before anyone asks, I have townreads but not publicizing it now.

why not?

I'm having issue deciding whether I actually townread them based on merits or activity. It's not a black or white in this game unfortunately.

[Realeo]

Kantip, I see your concern @ Kasumeat, but is it town contradiction or mafia contradiction?

[Realeo]

Rory

Rory is one of my townread, please give me your opinion.

[Realeo]

His questions and observations are useless and trite, his vote on Ari is extremely lazy, and 200 doesn't seem like a town reaction.

And this following things does not describes me?

[Realeo]

I mean, that is exactly the reason why Kasumeat scumread me.

[Realeo]

Can people who scumread Rory raises their hand please? I think 3 scumread Rory?

I'm having issue why (a lurker) is townier than Rory.

[Realeo]

Why is Raya is not being replaced out?

[Realeo]

No. The double voting thingy is a joke that "I wish I can vote two people."

I started that hobby from Micro711. Lane was playing there so I decided to resume it back.

For more information about joke, refer my sig.

[Realeo]

He voted Judge, then by voting Ari next, that canceled his vote on Judge

Now that you pointed it out, Judge's scumread about VCA makes senses.

[Realeo]

Can someone explain to me where Kasumeat is scumhunting? Because I really don't see it.

I think Kasumeat is quite processing things. Maybe that he never comes to a conclusion so it seems he is not scumhunting for you?

[Realeo]

oldwino, are you a debate adjudicator in real life? I'm trying to understand your scumread at lane.

[Realeo]

Actually, it's the opposite. His posting seems mostly conclusions fueled by shallow explanations. Which makes sense for scum as faking conclusions is no trouble at all.

In reading his ISO I don't see anything that looks like more than just evidence followed by conclusion. It's kinda tough to explain but I think that it's very easy to play the way he is as scum (and it's how I often play as scum because I'm really bad at faking being genuine).

I'm still having trouble why this doesn't describes me?

Why am I your top dog?

[Realeo]

I agree with Judge, this was scummy. Moves Realeo up on my scum list. I'm finding too many people scummy in this game.

STOP!

How do you agree with Judge if you don't know what is a VCA? You can't agree with someone if you don't know what they are talking about.

[Realeo]

I noticed Lane is being weirdly defensive (like that when I clarify RVS against me) but I was kinda afraid it was play style (although I don't remember Lane played that way) so reasons. Lane is one of my townlean given how he progresses the game early. I don't see what kantrip means by "lane looking at different angle."

I still don't understand oldwino's scumread against lane.

When I start understanding Judge's reasoning, it doesn't seems a reasoning scum can fake so town points.

S_S read at Ari still bothers me. Like "Ari is engaging? How?"

If Ari starts towning during deadlinel, I may flip to oldwino.

I prefer to spare Rory and lane simply that "There is something that doesn't sums up if they are scum."

[Realeo]

I assume when we get Pmysterious' replacement, the deadline would be extended.

I kinda like Aristo and I no longer convinced that oldwino vs lane is a playstyle clash

VOTE: oldwino

Although, if oldwino flips scum, I would not be that surprised if Aristo is his partner.

[Realeo]

I don't get why he scumread Lane that bad but suddenly seems so laxed with Aristo. I considered the possibility of town contradiction (or town making miscalculation with his read) but the more he keep talking about lane, the less I'm giving him the benefit of doubt.

[Realeo]

I mean, if the premise of oldwino's read is "Lane is vague", then why is the conclusion of that premise is "I scumread Lane"? The correct conclusion is not "I scumread Lane," but "I need to ask more from Lane." I mean, just like me. He is confusing so I kept asking him question. If he doesn't like being asked question, that's his business.

I'm not leaning scum on Lane because of his writing style,

but because his posts seem intentionally confusing sometimes

, and like Raya says, he asks questions, make comments, defends himself, but doesn't do any real analysis or scum hunting.

but how do you know he is being intentionally vague if you don't ask

any

question to Lane. I check oldwino's iso and it's not oldwino that seeks clarification, it's lane that seeks clarification.

It almost seems that oldwino is being intentionally vague.

Then why don't you ask any question to oldwino?

I did. Twice. The first is this.

oldwino, most of your scumread reasoning are "post feels empty."

What do you mean with post feels empty? I think my post is the fullest. You can't have people start talking about ppmysterious if I don't start that. I advance the game. Townread me.

And how lane is forced? I think he's the one who progresses the game. He is the one who points out the contradiction of ppmysterious.

And how does "me not noticing PP replaces Gamma" is scumread?

Woah. Woah. Realeo. You seems so defensive.

Because the readlist doesn't makes senses.

If Aristo is a scumlean, I'm fine.

But if Aristo is null, I don't understand why PP is a scum but Aristo is a null.

By 'empty' I mean posting but about neutral stuff. Not analyzing, just commenting.
I didn't really see PM's comments as contradictions. Thought Lane was stretching to say so (so forced).
And not noticing when someone replaces in seems like fake 'laziness' so seemed scummy.

None of my reads are strong, all leans are just slightly so, whichever way they go.
Trying to get some comments, some reactions, stir things up just a little.

I'll do another re-read and critically examine my own leanings as soon as I can, hope tomorrow.

And I do think inactivity is suspicious. Keeping one's head down and not giving anyone anything to criticize is scummy. Not necessarily scum, but scummy. So far, we don't have much to go on.

I decided to ignore it because "it's just lean." Fair point. However, I noticed he still doesn't adress my concern of aristo.

By 'empty' I mean posting but about neutral stuff.

is disturbing me but I thought "Meh,we may have different standard," but as game progresses, it seems oldwino is cherry picking.

The second one is still not answered.

I agree with Judge, this was scummy. Moves Realeo up on my scum list. I'm finding too many people scummy in this game.

STOP!

How do you agree with Judge if you don't know what is a VCA? You can't agree with someone if you don't know what they are talking about.

[Realeo]

To quote Kasumeat, this is probably why I scumread oldwino

oldwino accuses lane of not providing enough content, but then when oldwino asks what he should respond to, he gives him nothing. Looks like oldwino doesn't actually want lane to provide content, he just wants him to get lynched.

There is more to come, but if I speak more, Judge would make his second parody wall of post so later.

[Realeo]

Me gonna pass Ari.

[Realeo]

In post 266, oldwino wrote:
I agree with Judge, this was scummy. Moves Realeo up on my scum list. I'm finding too many people scummy in this game.


STOP!

How do you agree with Judge if you don't know what is a VCA? You can't agree with someone if you don't know what they are talking about.

In response to a couple of Realeo's questions and concerns.

I agreed with Judge's logic and conclusions.

I didn't have to know what 'VCA' was an abbrev for to agree with what he was saying.

What is Judge's logic and conclusion?

[Realeo]

Like, Judge's logic is only explained

after

you agree with him.

[Realeo]

Oldwino, this is Judge's explanation.

Guys, I'm role claiming.

I'm double voter.

VOTE: Judge
VOTE: Ari

I scumread Judge's sarcasm. I can understand human being sarcastic, but this is coming from a person complaining about lack of content. Smells hypocrisy when he being sarcastic about it especially the fact he has done nothing.

I mean, is it really possible that from Judge's perspective, EVERYTHING IS NAI AND EVERYTHING IS MEANINGLESS? Can't he even have scumlean or townlean?

and I scum read you back.

that vote switch is what some scum would do to reposition themselves on a lynch wagon so they would not appear like having joined it early in later vc analysis.

for better understanding consult titus.

Judge's logic

IS THE VCA

. You can't agree a logic that you don't understand

[Realeo]

So far those scum leanings are:
Something Smart
WhyMafia
PM (but won't vote him since he's being replaced)
Daveaz
Lane
Realeo
Aristo

I'm voting
VOTE: Aristo
because he's got the heaviest wagon and we're getting near the deadline and we have to move this along, right or wrong.

Why do you scumread Aristo? I don't see explanations of your scumread at Aristo?

I think the two of them are trying to move others towards a wagon on me to protect Aristo.

Yes, I'm defending him.

[Realeo]

So what does trouble me about Oldwino is that he's always concerned with how others view his voting. From his very first post in RVS. He also has a few instances of SRing people but not really following up, and I don't like his TR on Kantrip which is basically that he's posting a lot therefore is town.

Eh, why this is a scumread? Given oldwino is a new player in this site, these shout paranoid town instead scum?

[Realeo]

Given the consistency of Kasumeat @ fosing both me and S_S, I'm townleaning Kasumeat.

[Realeo]

Oooh, I just realized something.

VOTE: No Lynch

It would be anti-town to explain what do I realize.

My question for oldwino still stands, however.

[Realeo]

@oldwino:
That makes senses. Would you mind to answer the remaining question I know I said "question" instead of "questions" but I am not native speaker so bear with my broken grammar.
And stop being sorry, btw. Regardless of your alignment, but especially of you're town, you need to start being confident.

@whymafia:
Basically, I want neither of oldwino or ari or lane.

Maybe I'm going to open up on PMyesterious, Rory, or dave's lynch. Skeptical for the former two, but we would see.

[Realeo]

I'd like as many opinions on this as possible (on the 'no lynch idea in multi-ball) since this my first multi-ball game.

It depends.

A no lynch can be a seriously good idea when we're approaching end game.

In early games, no lynching is basically seen as a bad idea if the multiball has no investigative or protective power role (ie. Jungle Ogligarch, Making Friends and Enemies and Enemies, Fire and Ice)

This game has protective and investigative roles.

[Realeo]

Kasumeat, please read my entire chain of posts as a whole. I have said that I'm not advocating lynch. I said that I lost my appetite for oldwino's lynch.

[Realeo]

Maybe an unvote would be less controversial than a no lynch but still sends the right message.

UNVOTE:

[Realeo]

When did I say it was a good idea?

[Realeo]

Which part of this is advocating No Lynch?

Basically, I want neither of oldwino or ari or lane.

Maybe I'm going to open up on PMyesterious, Rory, or dave's lynch. Skeptical for the former two, but we would see.

[Realeo]

If that quote is what you're saying "me advocating that it's a good idea," you're wrong.

You should have seen that I noticed oldwino is a new players and I start giving him support.

And stop being sorry, btw. Regardless of your alignment, but especially of you're town, you need to start being confident.

So when he asks a question, I give him the answer.

I'd like as many opinions on this as possible (on the 'no lynch idea in multi-ball) since this my first multi-ball game.

It depends.

A no lynch can be a seriously good idea when we're approaching end game.

In early games, no lynching is basically seen as a bad idea if the multiball has no investigative or protective power role (ie. Jungle Ogligarch, Making Friends and Enemies and Enemies, Fire and Ice)

This game has protective and investigative roles.

The reason why I give this answer is this is his first multiball game.

I'm not advocating no lynch, I'm teaching him.

[Realeo]

Eh, why this is a scumread? Given oldwino is a new player in this site, these shout paranoid town instead scum?

Why would scum not be (more) paranoid? It's more of a newb tell than anything, but I find it slightly scummy.

Would a paranoid newb scum posts that page 4 read list? I think a paronoid newb scum would be too scared to do anything?

[Realeo]

Can you two stop fighting with each other?

[Realeo]

@Realeo, don't know if you did yet but could you elaborate on why you think Aris and Oldwino could be partners.

The double standard which I think has been resolved?

[Realeo]

Can you two stop fighting with each other?

Yes, we can.

Can you read our argument and give your thoughts on it?

It's basically an issue of interpretation and possible contradiction, but I don't see how that leads to any of you being scum.

[Realeo]

I mean, an argument has two parts: premise and conclusion. I understand the premise, I don't understand the conclusion.

[Realeo]

Let me put it this way, I'm sure Dave will be annoyed.

An argument has a premise and a conclusion.

That premise in this case is if "S_S is lying"

The conclusion is "He's scummy as fuck."

Kasumeat demonstrated where his argument are inconsistent but I am not aware why those are scummy.

I mean, it's like Kantrip's case @ Kasumeat

Kantip, I see your concern @ Kasumeat, but is it town contradiction or mafia contradiction?

Human are bound to be inconsistent, especially emotion consistency. Simply pointing out inconsistencies does not fulfill the burden of proof.

[Realeo]

Still seems to me like Kasu’s conclusions aren’t genuine and, like SS said earlier on, his stances are conclusion-based.

But you would notice that he is being consistent.

His current stand on me is consistent with his earlier "not so townread" me and his stand at S_S.

Kasumeat breaths under the name of logical consistency and I don't see why that being consistent is scummy.

[Realeo]

Because he's consistently full of crap. Consistency isn't really a towntell IMO, and especially not when your reasons make no sense.

But that's an argument why he is a incompetent player, not why he is scum.

[Realeo]

I'm pretty sure I have my own unwritten town block.

[Realeo]

It's okay BTD, I'll have the game solved in 24 hours.

VOTE: Dave

[Realeo]

I'm not sure why I quoted that, but sure that vote.

[Realeo]

I look forward to me and Real scum reading each other

This is a self fulfilling prophecy, but shouldn't we actively try to delay this prophecy together?

[Realeo]

Oh. Good question. Let's break it down.

Note: I'm going to use town read and town lean interchangeably. It's possible I town lean a town read, but not townread a town lean.

I don't personally think Kasumeat is scum. I think I have stated that I town read him even before he started voting him due to how he play. When I see that he expresses a little bit of spark is emotion, I find his emotion is genuine. I find his scumread at me and S_S as an inevitable product of confirmation bias because, you know, it is a thing.

Let's say I am comfortable with lane, but Vedith comes and I'm start scratching my head. It's hard to adapt to you.

At certain point I felt that progression of emotion coming from S_S towards Kasumeat is unnatural but IRL, I'm a bad judge of characther. S_S passes my read list consistency test so for the time being, he's spared.

I'm started being concerned about WhyMafia but unlike oldwino, I don't know what should I ask about him. He is so...neutral?

I don't have reasons to scumread PM, but I don't think I also have reasons to townread him. I cannot even tell whether it's a town lean or a scum lean.

Dave, eh spare me.

Judge's read seems natural. A little bit of misunderstanding. Definitely disagree with dave's read, but prolly because I have meta with dave.

Kantrip is town.

Kantrip explained what is wrong with Rory.

I find myself agreeing with Aristo and I am comfortable enough with his reading progression.

oldwino. Well, [REDACTED BY THE ORDER OF KIM JONG UN

Kim Jong Un part is definitely a joke, but it's redacted

]

Oooh, so many townleans. Me is confuzed.

[Realeo]

Beside oldwino, I omit some details as well because, you know, secret reasons. Unlike oldwino, these omitted details may be discovered with questioning process.

[Realeo]

When I see that he expresses a little bit of spark is emotion, I find his emotion is genuine.

I think another way to say is that I see myself at Kasumeat and I know when I'm scum and I don't see my scummy self at Kasumeat.

@WhyMafia: Can I have some sort of town lists please with reasoning? Yes, I'm not concerned with your scum read at the moment.

[Realeo]

Raya makes me a paranoid.

@Raya: Can I have a stand on lane/Vedith, please?

[Realeo]

For American, have you ever seen Bill O Reily debating with Anderson Cooper who just can't see each others argument even though both of them makes senses?

That basically describes Kasumeat vs SS.

[Realeo]

Well sure but Kasumeat's probably gonna kill me tonight thinking he's doing town a favor.

VOTE: Kasumeat

Then we lynch the problem.

If one person forgets the setup, I understand.

If two people forgets the setup, I find that there is at least 1 scum between S_S and Vedith.

Explanation later.

[Realeo]

Yeah I ship VOTE: 489. The only thing I have to re-read is the kasu - S_S argument.

This kinda worries me as my read says PM is null and said he (crash replacing PM) would sheep it.

[Realeo]

Fair enough, but you have no curiosity about some of my omitted detail? My readlist is quite simplist

[Realeo]

So what do you mean, "he's doing town a favor?"

[Realeo]

Does this imply that you townread Raya?

I see myself in Raya and I know my scummy self and I see my scummy self in Raya.

So it's a scum lean, but since it's unjustified scum lean, I has no option but to town lean him.

[Realeo]

So what do you mean, "he's doing town a favor?"

When you said that, I'm under the assumption "Wait. You're thinking vigilante is on play?"

[Realeo]

Well, I don't think he can get through 4 town games (3 of which he was NK'd in) with honestly believing that what he's doing is scumhunting; so I think it's more likely that he rolled scum for the first time and doesn't know how to sound convincing.

Please give me an executive summary of your meta at Kasu.

[Realeo]

So it's interpretation error at my side, my apology.

[Realeo]

Have you ever play with Vedith before, Kasu?

[Realeo]

Welcome to Vedith then.

[Realeo]

No, only Whymafia in this game

Ok, S_S, when do you decided to meta dive Kasumeat?

[Realeo]

Now, this is part of the game where we guess together which one of them is Anderson Cooper and which one of them is Bill o Riely.

But yes, I'm interested at how S_S know Kasumeat's game when they never play together. It may explain how he has meta about Aristo about "engaging" but 4 game dives scares me.

[Realeo]

Can I do scum instead xd

Sure. Go.

[Realeo]

Making it official that passing Kasu.

[Realeo]

Oh, to assist people with association read in future scumhunting.

[Realeo]

Oh thank God. We just gained another deadline extension.

[Realeo]

The never-ending deadline
Not comfortable lynching Ari, not sure if comfortable lynching Kasumeat.

Come join me as we try to vote Dave.

It's a good pressure vote--you don't want ending a day without a person making

zero

opinion--but it's also a good lynch if he fails the pressure.

[Realeo]

Oh, that grammar error.

It's a good pressure vote--you don't want ending a day with a person making zero opinion--but it's also a good lynch if he fails the pressure.

[Realeo]

One another point, I could swing back to Ari I guess.

[Realeo]

Can we push Dave for a while?

In D2, we're going to analyze our interaction back in D1.

There is nothing to analyze from Dave in D1. He doesn't even has a read.

If Dave is good, I would prolly swing to Ari.

[Realeo]

It's in our interest for Dave to fully talk before we end this day.

Let's start with simple question

@Dave: There was 2 wagon. Ari and Kasu. Why you picked Kasu?

[Realeo]

It was bigger and deadline at that time was not extended. Prefer a lynch to none.
I was right on multiple scum in oligarchy game after having almost nothing d1. And you know a gap in activity is not ai for me it indicates I'm busy.

It doesn't matter. For all I know, you can have different role PM here.

[Realeo]

Sticking to Dave.

[Realeo]

I'll Iso him now!

[Realeo]

=D

[Realeo]

That has happened before.

But what is the difference between "Ari preventing bussing" and "Ari knows that a lynch is better and it is unfortunate that he is the lynch?"

[Realeo]

And why Ari has to prevent his partner from bussing? I don't even think D1 is a day where we can reliably tell that "Oh, mafia gonna bus."

I mean, if we're talking about D4, sure. D1? eh.

[Realeo]

I think he is.
Since y'all might be stupid and lynch me anyway, despite the obvious "why the fuck would scum me not skate by to the next day" question...
The reason Ari's threat to self vote is important is.

No daychat.
It's a message that he'll hammer himself so his buds don't get caught bussing.

No daychat is news to me!

Because I'm not scum.
And I'm not signalling to anyone.

That's a decent thought though!

Remember that I never lie about RL.

I'd hope not! That's a pitiful tactic Imo

Ari, I assumed you have finished having a telephone call?

[Realeo]

And Kasumeat is due 4 a prod

[Realeo]

if dave is scum then ari is not on his team

Not really. I mean, at first opportunity, he went for Kasu instead of Ari.

[Realeo]

There is something called busing, you know. I mean, it's wifom-able, but not to the degree we can just eliminate Dave-Ari.

[Realeo]

@Dave

Do you townread me?

[Realeo]

@NM: This game has a higher than normal amount of player who can't tolerate OOT post, unfortunately.

[Realeo]

What ever you do, do not role claim.

[Realeo]

Yes, so we're down to 2 v 1 v 8.

[Realeo]

And Raya's iso is quite not remarkable =/ If the way I play resembles the way she played, which is what I predicted, then I don't think there is anything manipulative of Raya that screams alignment. She seems happy to just survive.

[Realeo]

VOTE: Oldwino

Ok. There are multiple players who scumread you. Why oldwino?

[Realeo]

Help me because my English is bad.

Does that means

[ 1 ] It can be kasu or oldwino, as long people who are scumreading me are lynched, I'm good
[ 2 ] My vote at oldwino has nothing to do with him scumreading me.

[Realeo]

It means I don't care who scum reads me. I'm lynching scum.

Pretty sure you haven't explain what is exactly do you scumread at him?

[Realeo]

Werewolf found.

VOTE: Crush

[Realeo]

Oh wait. Brain fartz.

UNVOTE:

[Realeo]

PMysterious / Crush : Townish

On retrospective, I kinda like how he compromises/insists on Aristo/Dave lynch. I don't think Crush is in a position where he has to commit to Dave's lynch since he replaced into a new position. I don't think PMysterious early contradiction is damaging.

Kasumeat : Not commited to a to a stand (Not null. More to IDK)

Kasumeat strongest townread is Raya and that makes a little bit paranoid but at the end of the day it should be considered NAI. I think Kasumeat's emotion after the blow out starts to be not natural. It seems to disregard everything that S_S has said ater the emotion blow out. Given how he re-evaluates his read at me, it hints that he is in a stable emotion when he re-evaluaes his read at me so the way he still scumread S_S in a stable mood is meh...

Oldwino : [Classified]

Ofcourse, if Trump tweets it or leaked it to the Russian, it becomes declassified.

Lane/Vedith: Not commited to a stand

Self explanatory

Kantrip : Townish

Self explanatory

Rory / NM : Not commited to a stand

Self explanatory

Why Mafia: Scum lean

It's a little bit complicated, so I need to ask something to clarify it.

@WhyMafia: Is Aristo being towny for you?

Aristo: Scum lean

I'm getting paranoid where he only posts to relieve pressure. I don't precisely see town motivation on that and I don't think any of his action warrants the benefit of doubt.

S_S: Townish

It's not exactly self explanatory, but I don't know how to express it. Inquiry about this should be adressed in form of question.

[Realeo]

not much time now but is realeo avoiding me on purpose on his read list?
also ive been gone 23 hours and 4 people didnt post in that time

I simply forgot. Sorry. I felt comfortable with you.

[Realeo]

I have no idea why realeo has redacted and then hidden his thoughts about me. Maybe I'm not such a bright player after all.

You're not at fault. I'm good with secrets.

[Realeo]

I'm willing to release my reasoning to redact my read at oldwino if wino is wagoned and I have to take a position, but it would be unoptimal.

Just telling you what is on the table.

[Realeo]

People who asked for N_M reasoning are someone who would never learn.

About N_M, the only way to sort N_M is to make events and we would vote track N_M from them.

I prefer Aristo, at the moment.

[Realeo]

I prefer Aristo to be lynched. Sorry.

[Realeo]

You only speak when you're under pressure.

You haven't finished your iso analysis. Me want more!!!

[Realeo]

Now here's the thing.

This is multi ball.

If NM is scummy, NM is not only scummy for town, NM is also scummy for mafia. Why town has to policy lynch when mafia can policy kill?

[Realeo]

@NM: Do you want to vote WhyMafia with me?

[Realeo]

Right, I forgot Rory.

VOTE: Aristophanes

Please join me as we force Aristo to talk. We can decide what to N_M after Aristo talk.

[Realeo]

Please join me as we force Aristo to talk. We can decide what to do with N_M after Aristo talk.

[Realeo]

Guys, we need more vote at Aristo to make Aristo talk

[Realeo]

Replace me out. Unfortunately. The next 8 days of my life would be helly occupied