Open 691: Jungle Republic (ENDGAME)

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mobile posting for ego

unfortunately kingsmeet is happening now but hopefully ill be able to get into this still

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Just going to

VLA til Monday night

until the meet is over

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I'm back! If you're lucky, I'll post some content tonight. Anyone wanna say something to me?

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do u belive gin's ww claim? why or why not?

Not in the position to give reads. But I don't see why a Mafia would claim WW.

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Yeah, I don't see the point of keeping the scum claim alive, even though I think Gingham is just trying to be a noble quitting werewolf.

I'm just going to start reading either way.

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You know what? Fuck it! Guys. I'm the Seer, and Bins is NOT WW. Now let's lynch the WW so I can become your IC and live to end game.

Why investigate Bins and not me or Paul?

Why does it matter? Do you doubt the seer claim?

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How about the Seer makes the decision on who I kill? Or just have all players vote.

I'd prefer just having a majority. I don't even trust the shot to Wisdom by himself, and he's the towniest player in the game outside of myself.

Explain the Wisdom townread? Or have you?


Questioning the Seer inspect is weird to me UNLESS you doubt the seer claim (do you???). What good is telling A50 his choice doesn't make sense? Unless you are just hounding on play here, then fine, carry on

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He can shoot the mafia for us... wrong? Like how do we know the shots are going to help us? The mafia are also being asked who the shot should be, you realize this right? I'd rather the killing role be gone and we just decide the game on our own with lynches. 7v3 nightless isn't exactly a mafia win, right? 7v3 with a vig who is just shooting with as much knowledge as we have is more uncertain.

Bah, so I don't get Wisdom's logic. Also, why the fuck are you posting seven times in a row? I'd lynch that.

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Also, I don't trust Gingham not to shoot A50. Sorry.

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Even though he was allowed to claim, he still has to play TO HIS WINCON. I don't see how that's ever going to equate to FULLY protown.

And Tails, I don't see how you define "clearly wisdom's town game" / not his scum game. I thought Wisdom is hard to read? And sure he got us the correct lynch D1, but it is multiball, and mafia want werewolves dead just as much as we do.

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I'm only joking about the policy but serious this spamming thing is ridiculous.

Still, all strong townreads on Wisdom are scummy, tbf.

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lol sprry in advance then bins sometimes I post a thought then something comes to me and then i have to ebwop and suddenly ive pisted 5+ in a row

I do that too, and that's more forgivable. I meant more him breaking down A50's post / other posts without multiquoting or breaking up the one quote.

I've never been lynched in the 8+ years I've been playing mafia

I highly doubt that lol

It's true. But this is mafiascum.net, where everything is considered a lie, so what the fuck ever.

I hammered. I'm dead. See ya.

Whatever team Wisdom is on, I hope that one wins. The lone voice of reason if he's town. And if he's scum, he deserves it.

I don't think you're lying, but I don't honestly understand what your endgame was by claiming? It technically is against wincon to claim scum and no town is ever going to reach consensus to let an anti-town role live longer than maybe a day MAX. You were never going to win, don't understand why you're surprised. Like even if town were to win with your help... you wouldn't be given an "honorary" win. You would have lost.

Just my 5 cents.

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I'm only joking about the policy

Oh

Still, all strong townreads on Wisdom are scummy, tbf.

I've come to virtually the same conclusions as him independently when I caught up so in my case, if you think I'm scummy for strongly town reading him, I think you should explain.

You're townreading him for having the same logic as you in a multiball game when most of this game has been about the WWs so far? Any *strong* townread at this point without paranoia seems strange.

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I don't see how Wisdom isn't very capable of just faking town motivation as Mafia? It's not like we were going to ever leave Gingham alive and THE NIGHTKILL IS KNOWN (and discussed), so if the chosen NK was town, why wouldn't mafia be okay with this? These things don't add up to a reason to townread.

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"looking for mafia" is something mafia fake doing, yes.

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Wisdom votes are hilarious.

mmm can be town

It's this sort of scenario that I find ridiculous.

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Wisdom (and if people are saying Wisdom is the "voice of reason this game", even more so him) gets a say in the nightkill. Mafia benefit from this as well if town's reads are incorrect.

I still find his logic incorrect if coming from townread. Antitown roles should die and 6v3 (I realize this number was wrong in my previous post) with no nightkill is not a HORRIBLE situation (not as horrible as it could be with MAFIA having a say in the NIGHT KILL done by an ANTITOWN role).

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And my Wisdom scumread isn't that strong (just a ping here and there) but I find the blind townreads more confusing and suspicious.

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You seem more town by interaction, though. Honestly, Wisdom's spam wall of 7 posts weren't that bad. Interested in Tails.

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Just the way he's managed to grab control of the game by throwing out very quick reads, calling posts simply bad and calling people simply "town." + how he's so against lynching a werewolf. Idk. Again, not my biggest scumread, but strong townreads on a slot like that always weird me out.

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I can also understand the angle (if he's town) that Mafia would be afraid to scumread Wisdom considering he is seemingly townreading the people who are townreading him (not saying he's wrong).

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essentially lynching a vig

A vig without a town wincon? Funny.

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A vig asking the mafia who to shoot? FUNNY.

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As if there was a chance she wouldnt shoot who we told her to

...? Why not? To fuck with us? You realized she claimed an anti-town role and could no longer win? Playing to town's wincon was not something she ever had to do.

... also what's the difference compared to voting on a lynch in nightless and voting on a vig shot...?

Seriously, you making this into a huge issue is weird.

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Next time I claim scum and you keep me alive as a vig, I'm shooting you for shits and giggles.

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are you incapable of understanding the concept of leashing?

when it comes to a third party survivor or lyncher maybe


when ging cant win? no

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oh we haven't hammered yet? I thought he hammered himself

that makes more sense on why wisdom still arguing

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the thing is I don't even think therealpaul is that scummy lol

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why are tails and vedith town to you?

vedith where are u bbffl

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I don't think you're lying, but I don't honestly understand what your endgame was by claiming? It technically is against wincon to claim scum and no town is ever going to reach consensus to let an anti-town role live longer than maybe a day MAX. You were never going to win, don't understand why you're surprised. Like even if town were to win with your help... you wouldn't be given an "honorary" win. You would have lost.

Just my 5 cents.

If you'd read my posts (clearly you didn't), you'd see that I know that. I wasn't intending to win.

"Reading comprehension... how does it work?" - Bins

Oh, sorry. Was I to assume you just wanted to straight up cheat in this game? Giving one team an unfair advantage (not sure which, tbh) and play towards a wincon that isn't yours? My bad.

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Play to win.

How 'bout read the rules, Mr. Reading Comprehension.

I know you asked the mod. But it wasn't going to last long once it actually became you playing for an alignment you aren't.

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VOTE: Gingham

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I'll gladly work with town to kill mafia in exchange for being endgamed and not lynched.

It's against the rules and frankly seems unfun for everyone involved. Next time just play.

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Yo Wisdom, whip these fuckers into shape for me.

... so that I can cheer for an alignment that isn't mine!

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Nah, I wouldn't be that obvious and would just hold my tongue. Plus, I got what I want so why would I be mad? Especially as mafia with the WW dead?

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I don't see how?

How is everyone actually scumreading me lol

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ty vedith


honestly math thinking im that bad when i like that interaction was super neutral really freaks me out

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sry i mean **vedith is my best friend too

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how about town would also say that if they were weirded out by a random scumread

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that you really arent explaining

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vla until monday sry canada day

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VOTE: math

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Math, I literally have 0 idea why you're reading me as one of your top scumreads. If you truly are town, you're really going to need to convince me that you ACTUALLY believe I'm scum, because right now it looks pulled out of thin air.

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If MMM was Town no way he puts me at L-1 when I could insta hammer if I was scum with him. Since MMM didn't think about that MMM is scum.

This is bullshit regardless of your alignment.

^ Pretty much how I feel about most of what you've said about me rn.

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(That was @Math)

Don't hammer yet pls tho

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can you not ignore my q... its not helping

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sigh why

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and math its literally the last two posts in my iso

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I really just want to know why you scumread me so hard when the only thing you've given me was "bins was bad from that exchange"

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right ok i really don't want to play with this math slot so can we please get rid of it

i want you to explain to me because its the reason im scumreading you but if youre 100% certian im scum cool enjoy the bad vote

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also tails I'm a chick but meh pronouns to me

UNVOTE:

just like, stop being so aggressive and angry @ me because it makes me not want to play

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Explain to me why I have to do the futile act of convincing my scumread they are scum.

this is where I get the idea that you're treating me as 100% scum without the possibility that i'm actually town which yeah frustrates me a little bit


and I know your vote was on ntrp but I don't get that scumread either so shrug

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Lol it has been explained.

???

this is pretty much a lie


fuck games these days being filled with people who are probably town but impossible to play with

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erhh I think I can PoE this at this point, i'll ISO tn

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kind of boring response

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idk, some posts gave me "uhh maybe this wont flip scum" vibes

I get this ok

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Almost50
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MathBlade / Wisdom / NotTheRealPaul {If these are my reads how tf has this been the two major wagons}

MMM

Tails
Vedith / Dunkerdoodles - everything dunk has done has been opportunistic or literally just saying "I'm town" over and over, it's shit iso



Vedith is really likely not town. I understand that Math has the ability to fake aggression as scum but it pisses me off too much to read into.
NTRP has been giving me town vibes all game, I don't get the huge wagon on him.
Wisdom is actually probably town and I let ~paranoia~ get to me.
MMM is very up in the air because I can see what he's doing as scum faking it but also his conversations seem natural.

The rest I don't see a reason to townread.

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Actually, NTRP might not be as huge a townread as I make it out to be and neither is Math, but I got bad feels from both the wagons.

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I mean technically Mafia have also correctly lynched scum this game, what am I to say but point out who sounds odd to me?

I think Vedith should actually be the lynch tho

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you can't actually think Vedith has a town pm

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wow lol

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Bin's reads seem a little too convenient. And I'm not sure if they entirely match his stances.

Er, convenient how? I'm basically saying Wisdom is on the completely wrong track.


And honestly Dunkers recent posts look SUPER town. so like wtf

Also still and Chick. Also annoying? what?

VOTE: Vedith

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@NTRP - your reaction to your wagon seemed town to me and the first posts I read when I entered the game were yours and those also seemed town to me

don't question my townread on you I don't like when people throw that q out

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Also still and Chick.

*also still a chick

idk how autocorrect did that

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i think we are all town

This isn't a scumpost just btw

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And honestly Dunkers recent posts look SUPER town

lolno

yes? honestly maybe if you think I'm scum with him I can see you making that connection
but to me he looks actually town

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can we please lynch Vedith like how would you want this slot in LYLO it's not going to live further

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I see literally 0 opportunism in his recent posts, only in his ISO from early on in the game


and you realize Vedith is actually pretty good at scum because his meta is hard to read right

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how is he town? his play is literally indistinguishable from his most recent scum game

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I literally said I can't read him in one of my posts but I have enough townreads and theres 3 scum left so Vedith needs to die

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(sry Vedith best friend)

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wtf its not a policy lynch???
what about me saying "it's a valid PoE and this is vediths scum play" is not reaching you???

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You said his town play is the same as his scum play
Now you say its his scum play

You said you dont want him in lylo

im saying its indistinguishable from his scum play so i have no hesitation thinking the slot could be scum
i dont think he has done anything to actually warrant a townread from you

dont see how youre calling out scumreads and for some reason have formed a confident opinion on a slot like vedith
when i say "i dont want him in lylo" i dont mean that i think hes bad town to have in lylo
i literally mean i dont see my not lynching vedith
i also dont see how vedith can be town rn based on numbers and my townreads

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"it would be independent of my alignment! stop catching me for the wrong reasons!"

^more scum frustration

i think if i was town!MMM rn i'd be super pissed off at this very blatant confbias lol

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wow wisdom

MMM/dunkers/Bins scumteam

i think this may actually be ENTIRELY wrong at this point

if you want i can vote tails too that guy likley isn't town

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And I'm disappointed that I have to fight you because I still think you're town...

thing is wisdom is good enough as scum to push shit reads like this and get away with it

but i think its more likely he's town that i've literally not agreed with a single thing he's said

which is yeah frustrating but i get that it happens



also tails isnt obvtown if anyone is obvtown its the people youre reading as scum lol

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in the last few posts they've made MMM and dunkers AND ME have been giving nothing but town reactions idk what you're even thinking you're in so deep

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like there is literally no no no way you can have townreads on tails and vedith

i just cant believe that

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and i know you have the ability to back off and realize your reads may be wrong (as you did with your math read) so idk whats up dude

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great so when town loses this game because you had such stubbornly bad reads how will you feel? eh

congrats like i didnt independently make the decision to back off math or never even scumread NTRP in the first place

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uh the wrong state ?

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gut reads arent that bad if you realize how easily you should be able to change them

dont truly believe he's getting a gut town read off the likes of vedith and tails and getting a scum one off dunkers

w/e

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can i get a second option

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can i get a second option

Sure. Self vote!

I mean I get you're conftown and get to lead the game and stuff but I don't think bottlenecking us right now is helpful when people have expressed hesitation on both

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sigh

NTRP and Dunkers sounds like SvS it's insane but I independently townread them both

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either way I gave my reads

Vedith / Tails are scum whatever I'll happily take that to the grave

Wisdom being wrong about most of his reads too sure

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NTRP and Dunkers sounds like SvS

this was more of a joke on how awkward it looked like a cat fight but in retrospect I don't think that will be easily received please don't jump on me more

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like wisdom if you're actually town you'll realize vedith was the scum vote on my wagon and tails was the scum stance off it

thanks

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uhm like not to say i wanna drag this out but instead of lynching wrong you realize there is no night and hence deadline doesnt matter and rocks fall talks like 2 day phases

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Also there are like 3 people with 2 votes on them

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Almost50

Wisdom
MMM
MathBlade

Dunkerdoodles
NotTheRealPaul

Tails
Vedith

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Meh, I could say the same to you.

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The reason the "lynchbait" wagon on Vedith isn't moving is because scum is ignoring it entirely.

Only other potential scum I see on the wagon is Bins. I've been struggling with reading him, because I'm not sure whether he's just annoying or whether there are actual issues with his play. And I really don't want to scumread him based on playstyle.

^

Knowing I'm town, how I am not to read this as the scummiest post in the game? The last of Tails posts are all about gaining suspicion on me without actually voting me.

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er

none of your analysis makes sense

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im not scumreading low activity and wouldnt call your activity low to me

honestly this reaction is bad

like saying "youre bad town or scum" isnt helpful lol like good opinion there tails



Vedith what do you think of these posts then

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like youre basically saying everyone in this game state is considered scum so when i scumread them its convenient? like idk i dont understand how my reads are convenient

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if you take issue to my townreads fine

if wisdom is town we have 50% of hitting scum
dont see why you take issue to my poe and raising and lowering people bc of it

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Almost50

Wisdom
MMM
MathBlade

Dunkerdoodles
NotTheRealPaul

Tails
Vedith

Well, THAT is my point. Do you really think ALL THREE MAFIA PLAYERS were on the lynch wagon on D1? When did you last see a whole scum team ending D1 on the same wagon?

true
i dont know who id be wrong about and which town read would be wrong

maybe math for incorrect townread if im wrong about anyone but does that make sense even

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i'm not going to change my vote to math tho i'm saying if i'm wrong about one of my scumreads

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I thought you didn't want to get into a pissing contest. Yet somehow you make a fine habit of making absolute pointless posts to your "scumread"

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erh was i not the "you" you were refering to? because if so who was that @

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like youre basically saying everyone in this game state is considered scum so when i scumread them its convenient? like idk i dont understand how my reads are convenient

That's not what I'm saying. At all. I'm saying that your reads are matching the game state to reflect where everyone else is starting to lean, and there's zero explanation to the shift in reads. Math goes from scumread to high townread when wagon dissolves to low townread when not mentioned again? MMM goes from null to town for no reason when he gets suspicion? Paul goes from town to close to scum after a bit more suspicion is thrown his way? What?

You realize the wagon dissolved because Wisdom and I both changed our reads after Math made some town posts?

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So I'm just supposed to take it as coincidence that players move down your reads list every time they start posting less?

Urh, again. I don't see how you're calling you and Vedith low activity in comparison to everyone else. The only person with high activity I'd say is Wisdom. Maybe me.

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That discredit.

that's almost word for word what you said?

my head that keeps telling me this might be a playstyle thing and you're just bad.

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Why are you appealing to your biggest scumread?

Vedith asked me what I thought about you. If you two actually aren't aligned I'm trying to figure out which is more likely scum

also why not lol


seriously people and the whole "I'm treating my scumreads as confscum" attitude is RICH

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That discredit.

that's almost word for word what you said?

my head that keeps telling me this might be a playstyle thing and you're just bad.

Are you, or are you not, trying to discredit my opinions?

erh
by calling me bad aren't you the one discrediting

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uh

you still make no sense

but ok
sure

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also I don't really have a constant playstyle so idk how to answer that

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the only reason I townread dunkers is because he never jumped on me when he could have easily
even when he was about to get lynched I felt like he was genuinely trying to figure out the game
I think i'd compromise on that
so my town feelings on him dropped when that subsided idk how that isn't natural but ok


I see a lot my own town flailing in MMM's play
not to say I don't fake my town flailing as scum, but really I think MMM is town or completely has me fooled

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if it makes you feel better too your continued pushed on my "playstyle" seems to give off more of a town vibe to me that I may have been wrong about
you seem to actually try to be figuring me out and I was mistaking that for being wishy-washy off my wagon and I didn't like it at all

if I am somehow wrong about both vedith and you (idk how vedith is town sehasidjasij to wisdom) then maybe I false-y labelled NTRP or dunkers as newbtown



pedit - k a50 I have no patience for votes on me anymore but you could at least explain it

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I still hold firm that deadline doesn't matter, but I understand the urgency and the dislike of stalemating so I'll switch my vote. I doubt anything will change if we go into a new day anyways.

Unless ANYONE wants to do this Vedith thing? Anyone? Sigh.

VOTE: MMM

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It's 1h30 but sure take your time

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oops sorry if that came off as sarcastic I did not mean it that way

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just making sure you see the DL !

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do we still have one more mislynch? I was certain this was lylo but guess not

I'm less mad but uhm I TOLD YOU ALL THAT MMM WAS TOWN

can we lynch vedith yet

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also if anyone tries to push me today i'm going to respond with angry emotes I have no more patience

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i'd do dunker but can we talk about what happens if dunkers is town as well

scumteams
pls

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k listen im not scum i have the opportunity to not drag out the day and do exactly what i did to vote him but instead i was trying to get people to switch to Vedith but no better wagon happened

im fine agreeing w a scum in dunkers and Vedith but id heavily prefer vedith first

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By looking at ISOs ntrp and tails do look town compared to dunkers AND VEDITH
so yeah ok

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I have an investigative result: Wisdom is NOT a WW

VOTE: Dunker

Spoiler: Here's the post I was composing when the thread got locked:

Final analysis of the day:

If MMM flips TOWN then there's scum in Tails, Wisdom, NotTheRealPaul, Bins, Mathblade (all his wagon), but also possibly in Vedith/Dunker for staying off it (now THAT is logic alright)

If he flips Scum though then there's scum who did not bus is Vedith/Dunker, but there's also one who bussed in Tails, Wisdom, NotTheRealPaul, Bins, Mathblade

Sounds ridiculous? OK. What I'm saying is one of Vedith/Dunker is scum. The other one is Town.

The wagon on MMM has one scum if he is Scum, or two if he isn't. But really, let's go back to D1 and find there's likely 2 scums in Bins/Math/MMM = If MMM is scum then one of Bins/Math is. If he is Town then BOTH are. That leaves their 3rd in Vedith/Dunker

But on D2 all of Vedith/Math/Bins were on the lynch, so can't all be scum together. This leaves Dunker as the 3rd Mafioso along with Math/Bins if MMM flips green, so Vedith can only be Scum if MMM is Scum (i.e. if one of Bins/Math is actually Town).

Conclusion: The 3 Mafia are Bins, Math & Dunkerdoodles

I don't 100% like this analysis (not just because I'm town) but because tons of people on the wagon shuffled last minute and didn't get their first choice
I can't really speak for math but I know I settled heavily on the MMM lynch compared to what I wanted
I think it's fine that Vedith and dunker are scum

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uRSCUMVEDITH

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lol k fine do it

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ughhhhhh

honestly if this flips towm after mmm im blaming me because i didnt have the ability and will to convince town to vote w me

no confidence in gut anymore

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because i think vedith is obv scum and dunkers may just be newbtown

i cant sell myself or you on my dunkers town read tho so w/e

id just like vedith dead because like i said yesterday theres no way we arent lynching him eventually

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I think its math/bins/vedith

WHY ARE YOU VOTING DUNKERS THAN

VOTE: VEDITH
^^ please

also I still think Math is more town than half the game

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im fine agreeing w a scum in dunkers and Vedith but id heavily prefer vedith first

By looking at ISOs ntrp and tails do look town compared to dunkers AND VEDITH
so yeah ok

because i think vedith is obv scum and dunkers may just be newbtown

I'll just leave this here.

I literally do not see what is wrong with this.

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i'm not scum

I haven't been trying to fool you on this all game

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it's hard not to think half this game wisdom has just been spewing bs to throw town off and its working

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like if he's scum and tails is town he has tails under his finger lol

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cute
trying to get paranoia on me

wow the hypocrisy in this statement is real

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at least math is voting me
youre trying to do it subtly

hello mr. not voting anyone in his scumteam

my logic is similar

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what hypocrisy? Ive openly said i scumread you everytime ive felt so

you've also said you found me sort of town

I feel like you've called everyone in this game scum except for Tails at one point and pushed them all strongly (except for like Vedith)

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Wisdom why would u vote dunkers if u dont think he is in final trio.

Dunkers why arent u making even an attempt to defend or atleast ask why people are voting you?

Could be a bus but Wisdom doesn't actually want to have Dunkers go down. Wisdom/Dunkers/Bins?

can you give up on the me being scum thing it really expired ages ago

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vedith! vedith! vedith! vedith! vedith!

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Dunker+Bins+Math are the Scum team.

I'm fairly certain at least 2/3 of this is wrong.

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if we don't lynch vedith tomorrow i'm going to ff @ 20

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ah if this flips town


town pls
don't be sheeple

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he still looks so town to me

I want town to be more obviously paranoid about this PLEASE

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like I get his votes have been bad and look opportunistic, but his reactions don't look scum


especially compared to vedith who just OMGUS'd and has still literally done nothing this game

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bow down to me

and feel horrible that you are all SHEEP
and didn't sheep me


I'm sad this game still exists tho
town has not been obvious this game because evidently they are just sheeping scum

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to the two town in:

Wisdom
Tails
MathBlade
NotTheRealPaul
Vedith

~~~hear me I am ready to receive you! !!!~~~


vedith bffl if you are somehow town I swear to gosh dude but you're my number 1 choice today

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math is probably scum (sorry friend)
so is vedith
i'd put wisdom over the other two just because it looks like wisdom buddying tails and ntrp rather than wisdom being fooled by them

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no jumped onto "lynchbait" vedith and i'm SURE if vedith were town scum would have gunned for him harder, makes me a lot more certain he's scum that scum chose to ignore my wailing about

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bow down to me

and feel horrible that you are all SHEEP
and didn't sheep me


I'm sad this game still exists tho
town has not been obvious this game because evidently they are just sheeping scum

If it is evident Town are sheeping scum why are you sheeping Wisdom in his horrible read of me?

uhm I don't think my read is a sheep yo



also I don't like ntrp pauls post
nice

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nope we do vedith

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i'm tempted to just vote vedith and force the cross vote if he is scum because i'm not going to change my mind

I don't know how to convince more than
- the wagon was completely ignored despite the fact I KEPT saying vedith was getting lynched eventually
- he has literally done nothing all game
- the fact he's TURNING ON ME is blatant fucking omgus and he's not even trying as scum anymore and he's actually getting away with it. he has no desire to actually convince me my read is wrong, he's just sheeping the push onto me to get me out of the game

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i'd say I'd put wisdom above math scum if I had to choose, I don't want to be wrong on mathblade just because

idk how many times it's been said this game but scum didn't need to bus and they need to lynch the people after them because they can't kill
wisdom ignoring vedith completely is super super scummy if vedith is scum (it's an almost certainty)

ntrp if you have two townreads you're set to PoE this
I don't know how to be more town if i'm the only person in the game trying to work this game out more than closing my eyes and pointing at people who are "obv scum" (cough wisdom cough)

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also I wouldn't need to flail this hard unless I was scared I was going to lose and this is me town flailing being like pleeeeEASE because there's literally a <50% chance we hit wrong but I still might lol

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if he's Mafia he deserves to win

shut
up
now

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i swear to fuck if town let's another lynch go through that wisdom calls i'm going to be upset

my hands ARE NOT dirty this game

and math might actually be town

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I'm sure I've been promoting the Math lynch over 2 days now and no one is willing to go for it.

disagree with this

everyone wanted math dead at one point I think

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tails can weigh in and then i'm going to vote cause no patience

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also you gotta lose the strong townread on wisdom, seriously

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Hey. You're back to your opening bit.

true! still true!




@ntrp - I think it's {tails/math}, wisdom, vedith
other town is either tails or math but idk

town should be acting paranoid/uneasy, scum should be acting confident at this point
if I were scum I think i'd be very just chill rn

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Right now, I'm PoE'd to {Vedith, Paul, Bins},

this is literally insane to me considering this completely doesn't work as the scum team

the fact you're ignoring both math and wisdom is just whaahtht

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I will settle for Wisdom and only for Wisdom but Vedith should really, really be the lynch.

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if you're town, i'm town, the other town is ntrp

i'm happy with my ntrp townread, it's not changing

then we lynch vedith

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im town jfc unvote a50

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youre conftown you shouldnt be the first vote

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also tails saying wisdom has been easy going this game is just what

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a50 seriously wtf

if u actually wanna play to your wincon youll unvote

math is pretty scum now
id say wisdom, math, vedith
or tails for wisdom

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VOTE: math

sigh this is not how i expected this to end
probably stalled too much

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town pls quickhammer this
or a50 just unvote and we'll have a normal crossvote

you dont just 2nd vote someone in lylo then leave

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If Wisdom is scum, why hasn't he voted you, Bins?

well voting me right now is a scumclaim

but im liking him more and more compared to math

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nah youre right wisdoms town

town pls quick hammer math BECAUSE OUR CONFTOWN VOTED FIRST IN LYLO

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great vedith is here im done 4

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mfw vedith scum
MFW

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a50 seriously
seriously

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Biiiiiiiins!
I'm sorry best friend forever! I never wanted it to happen like this!

its ok i forgive u



yeah idk
i wanted to be more confident
should have definitely been in my mmm townread but i thought no lynching would be a bad idea

i shouldve just voted vedith


tails fooled me until the last moment, good job

wisdom saying mmm/dunkers/me was scumteam and vedith/tails obvtown WAS SUPER frustrating

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math im happy you were scum because boi i was like pls dont be town because if youre town this is frustrating

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a50 i have no issue with your reads and your scumread on me
i have an issue w the conftown voting first in lylo
also i 180 my reads incorrectly and correctly more as town than scum


gg scum tho
already commended tails but agree you played well