Open 692 - Two-fold Matrix6 (Game Over)

[Lang Buddha]

Hey madafakas. This guy I replaced was town, man. And judging by his postcount he was invested in this game, alright? So if I were you I'd sheep his vote on this Aristophanes guy, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

So, what happened at night, hmm? Why did only one person die, and how come it was a mafiosi madafaka?

[Lang Buddha]

Did you read the setup?

No, maddafakka, I haven't, of course I've read the setup, but I want to speculate anyway, ok? like what the fuck happened list night, man?

Unless you strongly believe his predecessor's play was scum indicative.

Which I do, and I thought I made that clear...

Then that s fine. Oldwino is using nm s lack of contribution to the game as a big part of his vote on nm.

Yes I am, in fact it's my only reason for voting him. That kind of 'play,' not playing, is terrible for the game and should be considered prod dodging. If it's not technically reason to be prodded or mod killed, then we all owe to the game to lynch him whether he is town or scum. He is anti-game and it's not fair to anyone who really wants to play.

I'd vote Ari again and probably Vedith (replaced Lane), who I think are both scum, but not until we band together to get rid of Not Mafia.

I was prodded again.
I really don't have anything to add.
I am not posting to protest NM's lack of any meaningful posts throughout the entire game.

I reiterate, it's time to lynch NM because he isn't playing. His only play since my last complaint about him was to vote me. No thought, no analysis, not even any posting.

He's now at L-2. Would someone take him to L-1 and see if he even claims. I won't care if he does, he shouldn't be allowed to continue.

We should policy lynch him and move on. His kind of play is terrible for the site meta and should not be tolerated.

NM isn't the only one in the game, maddafakka, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

Okay Aristo is bugging me more and more. All he does is mention that he's around and willing to answer specific questions and then make sad posts when people scumread him. He continues to pad his post count without taking the initiative to scumread and make his own stances. I don't think he even ever finished his original ISOs from Day 1 when he was being pressured for a lynch.

Vedith also crawling up my scum reads.

Still feel like oldwino and Raya's interactions are super out of place but his play today has been more townie. Still think he is the other mafia but it's a bit more shaky.

Alright, man. Someone is seeing the light, ah? Vote aristo with me.

[Lang Buddha]

Is it sad that 4 posts from Lang Buddha are making me want to reevaluate the Realeo slot?

me too. i reread and my dislike for his style is probably stemming form him trying to impersonate lang buddha (i dont play gta so i dont know for sure) but anyway i realize how frustrating i mustve sounded in my previous game when when i kept saying I AM THE LAW

however theres something else. all 4 posts are contentless in the sense they add nothing to the game. he is asking about what happened last night when clearly nobody could answer that even if they knew. it was either a scum rb and scum wont claim, a town pr protection and again they should not claim, or mafia didnt submit a kill bc raya was lynched and nm wasnt around to find out

What does sadness have to do with anything.
You madafakkas can go fuck yourselves, man.

[Lang Buddha]

I'd like to get Aristo lynced today. Whether he's scum or not, I feel like I owe it Realeo to lynch him, man.

Maybe I can bring myself to be more involved after it's done, man, alright?

[Lang Buddha]

LaB: Lynch all Bitches, man.

[Lang Buddha]

Keep the posts coming, man. 124 and we haven't heard nearly enough from you, man.

[Lang Buddha]

Not_Mafia is L-3.

I want to see this flip and I don't think leaving Not_Mafia alive will benefit town even if he is town.

Ya-ya, man. Why would we need townies alive, man.

[Lang Buddha]

Currently I'm good making fun of S_M, man, soo..
Usefulness is in the eye of the beholder, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Lang Buddha]

AhHOoo AhHOO AhHOoo AhHOO

[Lang Buddha]

At least

some

thought and persuasion-facilitating design needs to be put into posts man, this isn't TOS, maddafakkas, shit.

These one-liners, man, wtf?! So many replacements, man. So hard to get anywhere, man.
The solution is trying to get to know the people who are now here, and hopefully won't leave, alright? We can achieve this if we invest a little bit of ourselves, our creativity, man, aha! I have an idea, man, ja ja.
Let's all do

this

:

You own a radio station, so you pick a song, and it starts to play.

After a short while its volume decreases..

you have something to say about it.

Example: Song

I have a dream, man. These cats stop posting one liners whenever they want to be taken serious, mhh? Sound good? You're listening to MVLI's Cat Dreams on Lang FM, maddafakka

This isn't bitching btw, it's being town without actually doing anything, man. I'm still waiting for my queue to start scumhunting (lynch aristo)

[Lang Buddha]

Tit for tat, man. You do what I ask of you and I will look at your lynch target's ISO, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

The more you hinder a scumlynch, man ...

But that's not what I meant, alright?

[Lang Buddha]

I told you what you had to do to get me to look at your target's ISO, but you don't want to, ah? But still you bitch, maddafakka, hmm?

you want me to write longer posts?
ehhhhh
i can't really get reads that way and when i try it inevitably ends pretty horribly. if i need to write a novel i'll wait until i feel strongly enough to make one
one-liners are the most effective way for me to play generally and for a lot of other people too
people do actually take shorter posts seriously believe it or not
a lot more than "my predecessor voted this so it must be scum"

It's the optimal thing to do right now, man. I lack the will to go through a one-liner post laden thread only to find reasons to scumread the same slot, or even worse find reasons to lynch someone else, for inferior reasons than my predecessor who did do the work much more thoroughly, and that slot turning out to be town, and Ari turning out to be scum, maybe even winning the game, man, and then I'd probably hate myself, aiaiai.

Generally speaking it would be better to start scumhunting, man, even though the likes of you don't care to make the thread easy and joyous to read, but not in this case, man.

I've played game where scum spam a lot to achieve exactly this, an unreadable thread, and then start bitching about people not scumhunting. Which is why I am promoting a Lynch all Bitches policy, man, especially in this game.

[Lang Buddha]

You don't buffer and stack your arguments into a halfway presentable and persuasive case, not bitching, just an obvervation, and that's fine. You don't write 3-4 paragraph posts, which are the most accessible in terms of keeping things short enough to be interesting but long enough to cover the subject matter thoroughly. In contrast your posts make people have to switch between posters like following a tennis match, without being able to keep the subject matter coherently anchored in memory, in order to analyze it for alignment indicative characteristics. So no, one-liners are shit, man.

Look at Realeo's ISO. It has rhythm, man. He made it so that people who do dig around in it to get a read on him, don't get cancer, alright? He wants ppl to understand the game, like the game, dropping a picture, a satirical remark from time to time in a one-liner post. But generally he's been making longer statements when serious, quoting stuff, as to not have the reader click the jump to post link and back and forth all the time, and responding to it in order to sustain a coherent progression. How do you expect me to follow your or SS's shit, maddafakka, huh?

[Lang Buddha]

Would would I do without you, Mario? HOW COULD I LIVE WITHOUT YOU !!! NOOOOooOOOoo Mario , NOOoooO Don't Pleae Don't I'm SOOOOoooOO Sorry AAAIIAHHAHHAhh hahahahahH (crying)

Don't be ridiculous.

[Lang Buddha]

Would it cause you pain to comply with my request, so much so that you vote me instead, so you have a reason not to go along and god forbid let me know something about yourself, man. I'm curious what song you would pick and how you would introduce it, man. In fact it would be more interesting than anything I've read ITT uptil now, granted I haven't read much man, but still.

I will now stfu about this but know that you're a piece of shit for not complying, and voting me instead. This is so fucked up, man. This whole site is fucked to shit.

[Lang Buddha]

I am playing mafia, you piece of shit. I'm voting, probably even scum, nab, a-ha. I explained why it would be beneficial to imbue this game with something other than 1 liners and ppl immediately start to get on my nuts. I never suggested Mario should replace out, and I won't be taking that kind of fascist shit from you, maddafakka, so take your ass to that part of the site and go fuck yourself, ah?

[Lang Buddha]

it is nothing towards game solving or scum hunting

Can you point towards something that is?

[Lang Buddha]

it is nothing towards game solving or scum hunting

Can you point towards something that is?

Hang on man. Dreed is about to solve the game for us, man.

[Lang Buddha]

Before you allege to be frustrated with a game, man, maybe you should make sure you're referring to the right one.There is no jjd here, man.

[Lang Buddha]

ah, nvm. lmao

[Lang Buddha]

I get so dumb when people bitch so much, it's my kryptonite

[Lang Buddha]

Before you allege there is no jjd here, man, you should make sure you're referring to the right game. There is a jjd here, man.

Ya ya, man. But until he provides a game solving something we need not concern ourselves with what he's posting, man, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

His read progression regarding Ari and Not_Mafia was really weird, and he's just in general been hiding and not interacting.

Is changing one's mind weird? Ari I viewed as scum, now I TR him. It's something called re-reading and re-evaluating
Not_Mafia I was iffy on for a while. However, by PoE I'm pretty sure he's scum. Additionally I re-read Rory, and am not convinced that's town. So you're saying I've been lurking and not taking the initiative? I've given by scum pool. In fact, you were pushing for a NotMafia lynch yourself. Currently, he was closer to a lynch. Why have you shifted to me? To split the votes? To make another no-lynch?

NotMafia, SS, and potentially Lang are scum

I am extremely potent, don't you worry about that, maddafakka, eeh?

[Lang Buddha]

So I'm playing this mini-game inside and spanning across my entire game playing career on this site, man. It's called vote for scum, alrigt? The more frequent my vote is on scum at the end of the day, the more points I accumulate, man. I'm feeling good about this game, man, a-ha.

[Lang Buddha]

@jjd are you this guy?

@Aristo what's the point of not posting like this?

[Lang Buddha]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Lang Buddha]

You don't want me to get any points, man?

[Lang Buddha]

You don't want me to get points

[Lang Buddha]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Lang Buddha]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Lang Buddha]

Lang can you do this please?

Ari is so high on my list because I know him really well.

Seems you guys aren't willing to trust me so I'll have to make a case. Can whoever is scumreading him point to specific things that you scumread him for?

Sure, man; right

after

we lynch him, ya-ya.

[Lang Buddha]

You should meet up and have sex, man.

[Lang Buddha]

Aha! because my color is green. And you don't want someone to paint that heart green, man, hmm? It should be red, like you know it is because you're mafia.

^expert scumhunting

[Lang Buddha]

How do the wagons yesterday make Umlaut a wolf?

@Titus - y'know, before Lang came in with jokes I asked a number of serious questions, I'd like to at least see this one fielded.

I was going to ask the same question, man. But then I decided to joke instead, hmm? Now I'm curious about this again, man.

[Lang Buddha]

VOTE: Aristophanes

Let's lynch my werewolf buddy now, ey?

[Lang Buddha]

No game solving anything by jjd, man. Must be aristo's buddy, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

Thor, I hope you know there is no WIFOM situation here. Titus is jailer and has outed you as scum. There should've been two kills every single night. But Titus kept jailing you and thus until she died, you couldn't do shit.

She wouldn't have dropped those hints if you were town or he had doubt

bud

.

I think Lang, Judge and Vedith are town this game. Which means the two wolves is likely in Ari/Um/SS. That's what I believe.

It's possible Comm and Thor are ww, and the mafia didn't shoot on purpose, man. From what mafia know about the setup they might have figured that the likelihood of there being a Tracker in the game is double than that of the other possibilities, alright? Since they're both goons, hmm? and didn't want to get caught doing the kill until they were sure that there's no tracker in the setup or that it died, man.

Now, the mafia won't claim mafia, so one of the ww is free to accuse the other if being the last mafia, ensuring the partner's safety because town is best of lynching ww. If the mafia didn't commit nightkills, and the jailkeeper happens to have jailed Thor's slot all this time, it would be ironic if ww could turn this around and use it in their favor, man.

[Lang Buddha]

Or could there still be a roleblocker in the game, man, shit?

[Lang Buddha]

I don't give Lang enough credit to think through not killing to set Thor up.

Is this maddafakka calling me dumb, again, man?!

[Lang Buddha]

ok

VOTE: lang buddha

this is the mafia

lb actually scum claimed in 1660 as precisely being mafia and it went unnoticed even by me on the first read
in his post 1661 he was trying to remedy the situation but it's too late

in 1660 he speaks of a

tracker

and explains the mafia are 2

goons

and i ask you this: why would

town

ever mention a tracker when the flipped pr was a jk?

the answer is withing his post. the mafia are 2 goons and thus knew its a 50% chance there was a tracker and 25% it was a jk and in all cases not killing was better for them
only if it was a solo cop would it have been a bad idea to not kill as it slows down the game and gives the cop more time to catch them

so the mafia deliberately didnt shoot for gear a tracker may report them as both slots raya+realeo/lang were not above suspicion and maybe they thought i might be the tracker as i was suspecting raya the most and also had a feud with realeo on d1 and called him out on the repositioning of his vote on the ari wagon so if i was tracker there was a high chance i would have tracked either of them and if there was a tracker there was a chance there was also a doctor

land tried to correct his mistake by saying there still could be a rb but rb does not coexist with tracker and he didnt even correct the tracker bit

so i went back to check my remarks on realeo and i remembered the above mentioned reason i suspected him plus a reference to post 489 so i went back and ckecked it and it appears realeo had trouble coming up with scum reads while he had too many town reads by his own admission which is also a scum tell bc scum have hardships coming up with reasons to support a scum read and with this being multi ball they didnt want to piss off the wws or trigger the prs if they fos d either

so we hav2 goons with a hailkeeper on their own (1st line of the matrix)

worthy to note lang was also blatantly looking for the wws and not interested in identifying the mafia at all when at the time we were discussing either the lynch or the leash of the mafia. he threw in a few pairs including me+ari and then comm+thor in hopes something sticks and we lynch somewhere that is not him

i am now 100% confident lang buddha is the mafia to the point im willing to take comm on his bet if the site rules allow it. thor is not mafia. lang buddha is

p.s. mafia not shooting explains why thor being jailed looked like blocking all the kills bc there were not kill attempts to begin with

Bitter sweet bullshit, man.

[Lang Buddha]

@ss: actually if there is a bp then the case on lang falls apart as the 2 goons things becomes not a slip
however im fully convinced it was a slip and thus i say there is no bp and it was a solo jk all along
i thus would agree to claim precisely bp/not bp meaning the elder if existent should claim no bp

What was the slip again?

[Lang Buddha]

What was the slip again?

Your claim that Mafia feared a Tracker as explanation of their strategy.

Why didn't

you

think of this, man? You're supposed to disarm the suspicion of being mafia on yourself somehow, eh?

[Lang Buddha]

What was the slip again?

Your claim that Mafia feared a Tracker as explanation of their strategy.

Why didn't

you

think of this, man? You're supposed to disarm the suspicion of being mafia on yourself somehow, eh?

I was more focused on explaining why the case was a bit narf and also pointing out the Wolf and town rule outs I was spotting.
I totally missed your slip,

I'll agree

.

When, man?

So why is it a slip, man, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

So why is it a slip, man, hmm?

Because it shows knowledge beyond what a town player would possess.

Like that there might be a tracker in the game, man?

[Lang Buddha]

I was waiting for jjd to supply us with something game solving, man. Losing all hope of that happening, man, I speculated the lack of nightkills, alright? It made sense for a scumteam consisting of 2 goons (like in the game that just ended) to fear a tracker, or even a jailkeeper, for having the power to find them out, eh? Maybe I worded it a bit strangely, man, I get it, I lack the fucks to doublecheck my posts man.

But now jjd comes in and instead of solving the game says I slipped by saying that the mafia has 2 goons, and that

we

decided not to kill because we feared a tracker, man. And that's a good case according to Comm. Fail fucking Fish, man. This is why I don't care about victory, fuck it, man. If Aristo is ww/mafia I get a bunch of points, ok?, and that's all I'm inclined to care about with stupid shit like this flying as scumhunting, man.

[Lang Buddha]

You're all a bunch of children. jjd thinks if he can lynch me he won our verbal altercation, man, and if he's mafia he can even say it was part of his tactic, what a granny fart. Thor and Comm are voting me because I said he and Comm might still be ww instead of Thor mafia. Does this have anything to do with anything other than revenge, man? Who cares man, I don't. Oh, yeah, defeatist attitude .. ya-ya, man.

[Lang Buddha]

I don't care if you connect me as WW, I do care that a Mafia flip from you puts town in a good position for winning moreso than any other plan offered.
You arguing that I'm a WW instead of Mafia is actually beneficial to me regardless of my alignment.

The only benefit in case you're town is that I'm doing something more than naked voting Aristophanes. If you're werewolf, how is that beneficial if I say you're werewolf, granted I haven't had much to base it on, man, so maybe you're referring to the fact that a weak suspicion is gonna make you look more townie, eh? If you're mafia and I'm arguing that you're werewolf with 2 wolves left shouldn't comfort you, unless, again, nobody takes me seriously, etc., man.

@Umlaut I don't really have a read on Aristophanes, and I don't have a scumread that would warrant voting someone else, I'm just wondering why jjd is unable to supply a game solving post, man, but even if I would have one it wouldn't be worth changing votes for, alright?

[Lang Buddha]

Right, I forgot Rory.

VOTE: Aristophanes

Please join me as we force Aristo to talk. We can decide what to N_M after Aristo talk.

Guys, we need more vote at Aristo to make Aristo talk

Shit, man. I just realized Realeo my predecessor was only voting Aristo to make him talk, man, fuck.

VOTE: jjd

[Lang Buddha]

I claim BP, as in Bitch Please, on jjd's shit case.

[Lang Buddha]

Man, you're mafia, just chill out and wait for us to lynch you or ww to shoot you, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

VOTE: Umlaut

[Lang Buddha]

VOTE: Thor665

[Lang Buddha]

VOTE: Belisarius

[Lang Buddha]

(Umlaut and Lang can answer too, I guess)

too, I guess

I guess

VOTE: SS

[Lang Buddha]

If anyone wants to hammer, man, announce and give me time to switch back to Thor, hmm?

[Lang Buddha]

I completely and utterly fail to see what Lang dislikes about the "I guess" though. Unless he's

not a native speaker

and thought that I was saying I was guessing, which I doubt.

Yeah, I don't get that at all...

I don't speak native, man. What is that, like ah.. romantic language or something? and what does it have to do with anything, man?

[Lang Buddha]

Why did you say it?

[Lang Buddha]

Really, man? I'm at L-1 but my thoughts are less important, ya-ya, hm-mh.

[Lang Buddha]

Alright, this Iso is barren of anything resembling scumhunting. I will state my

Intent

now.

Alright; alright.
VOTE: Thor

[Lang Buddha]

What a fucking ridiculous decision to no lynch, man.

[Lang Buddha]

The first time.

On a more positive note, I'm now not only debt-free but actually ,, points in the green, man. Due to losing the game before this one as vt without having voted for either of the scum so much as once at the end of a day, man, I accumulated -4 points, because the # of scum = amount of buy-in, which doubles in case of a loss, hmm? unless it's multiball which it wasn't, ey?

So when I replaced in Raya was already dead, so that makes a 3 point buy-in, alright? On the end of day2 I was voting for Aristophanes, ah-ha, which according to this formula: (#T - 1) / #S, man, makes 8 / 3 = 2.7 points, ya ya. EoD3 I was still voting Aristo, so 7 / 3 = 2.3 additional points in my bragon bank account, man. Finally, 5 / 3 = 1.7 for voting for Thor EoD4, before I was so rudely lynched by all 3 maddafakkas, urrhuh. Put it together and what do I got? 2.7 + 2.3 + 1.7 - 3 = 3.7... I'm still 0.3 in dept, man, shit...

[Lang Buddha]

Your playstyle probably needs work if you want to shift voting a scum to lynching a scum.

I have to second this. I don't dislike you, Lang, but you are very difficult to play with and I want to lynch you more than not regardless of alignment. This stops your arguments from having any levity.

^This! Very much this. I did want to lynch you regardless, and it didn't help when you provided that theory leading me to believe you are the remaining mafia.

Get a room, ey?

[Lang Buddha]

I know that you and Umlaut got me lynched, man, sheeping the worst case in history. Like I would fucking outline my entire tactic if I was scum, wtf?! If I had said it was a reaction test, man, would you have the decency to take your head out of your ass and admit you fucked up?

[Lang Buddha]

You and your intelligence debating pro scumhunting techniques, man. You think I'm lynch bait town but when I get run up by scum you're the first to call it a brilliant case, you know?

[Lang Buddha]

you were jailed n1

According to mod topic my predecessor was jailed n1, man.