Why did you feel the need to indicate that kunstar wasn't being serious? That just undermines any pressure put on Raya.In post 19, Kop wrote:Ahhh, you aren't serious, do ignore this post.In post 18, Kop wrote:You not like RVS?In post 16, kunkstar7 wrote:Skipping RVS, straight to serious mode.
Vote: Raya36. It's just glaringly obvious at this point.
I'm assuming you have participated with Raya before?
Not necessarily.In post 37, Kop wrote:He's undermining any pressure put on that slot because if I can see it, others can too, I'd guess.In post 29, TywinL wrote:Why did you feel the need to indicate that kunstar wasn't being serious? That just undermines any pressure put on Raya.In post 19, Kop wrote:Ahhh, you aren't serious, do ignore this post.In post 18, Kop wrote:You not like RVS?In post 16, kunkstar7 wrote:Skipping RVS, straight to serious mode.
Vote: Raya36. It's just glaringly obvious at this point.
I'm assuming you have participated with Raya before?
VOTE: Kop
Also.....what?In post 35, CommKnight wrote:HEY GUYYS WE CAUGHT SCUM GUYYS.
VOTE: Guyy
Scum is oblivious to being outed.
How could I "help" out if it was already dead to begin with? In my pov, RVS is used to pressure people and get reactions/information to get the game rolling. Undermining that is not town behavior. (Although I do agree with your town read on Raya)In post 53, kunkstar7 wrote:Alright, besides the fact that apparently one word posts are a thing, lets see what we can do.
@wavemode: Want to elaborate on that vote a bit...at all even? Just voting with no context doesn't provide anything to convince anyone else, so I don't know how the hell you expect to get someone lynched if you honestly believe in your vote.
I think Raya handled the random stuff in good faith, not being fazed at all (despite the debacle of "is it pressure or is it not" that went on). Disregarding me completely seems pretty town to me, the disregard comes off as a townie who doesn't care about personal survival and rather finding the content that should be discussed instead.
Tywin is another thing, if he noticed that the idea was to run up pressure then why call out kop on it rather than help out? Seems disingenuous to me. I don't think there's any wrong intent in kop there since he obviously mistook my post initially, so very misplaced vote there by Tywin.Vote: Tywinfor the insincerity.
Everyone else so far pretty much has said nothing of substance, so no reads there.
We are past that point, so shit like this is no longer acceptable.In post 57, Raya36 wrote:I have but I thought we were at the point that we were starting to transition from RVS to actual gameplay but then more reasonless votes came in from people who have previously placed RVS votes.In post 56, wavemode wrote:You've never RVS'd before?In post 54, Raya36 wrote:Why is this game so full of reasonless votes???
In post 41, wavemode wrote:Is this vote serious?In post 29, TywinL wrote:Why did you feel the need to indicate that kunstar wasn't being serious? That just undermines any pressure put on Raya.
VOTE: Kop
Looks like you decided to answer your own question. Yes, it is serious.In post 55, wavemode wrote:Was voting from my phone
29 just seemed very forced and reachy to me
Like someone looking for something to say about someone and grabbing whatever he could
Yes, I have too many null reads right now.
Didn't realize that it was RVS.In post 64, SmoothBlue wrote:In post 40, TywinL wrote:Also.....what?In post 35, CommKnight wrote:HEY GUYYS WE CAUGHT SCUM GUYYS.
VOTE: Guyy
Scum is oblivious to being outed.
My vote was just an RVS.
My assumption is that the others were too. Why question a RVS vote?
Care to point out the slip? I don't see it.In post 70, CommKnight wrote:Guyy slipped. It was half-serious and half-RVS. But it's staying.
Hmm, yeah I'll buy this.In post 71, Kop wrote:Yes, I misunderstood your post and thought you were being serious when I questioned your post, it was only until after I posted I realised Raya never even posted so knew then it wasn't a serious post. I either pointed it out that I now know you weren't being serious, or I left it as it is, but divert the entire pressure you wanted to go towards Raya onto myself for questioning your intent towards Raya.In post 53, kunkstar7 wrote:Alright, besides the fact that apparently one word posts are a thing, lets see what we can do.
@wavemode: Want to elaborate on that vote a bit...at all even? Just voting with no context doesn't provide anything to convince anyone else, so I don't know how the hell you expect to get someone lynched if you honestly believe in your vote.
I think Raya handled the random stuff in good faith, not being fazed at all (despite the debacle of "is it pressure or is it not" that went on). Disregarding me completely seems pretty town to me, the disregard comes off as a townie who doesn't care about personal survival and rather finding the content that should be discussed instead.
Tywin is another thing, if he noticed that the idea was to run up pressure then why call out kop on it rather than help out? Seems disingenuous to me. I don't think there's any wrong intent in kop there since he obviously mistook my post initially, so very misplaced vote there by Tywin.Vote: Tywinfor the insincerity.
Everyone else so far pretty much has said nothing of substance, so no reads there.
Doesn't know what the slip is but votes anyway...hmm
@Smooth, the bolded is pretty much why I am townreading Raya so far.In post 53, kunkstar7 wrote:Alright, besides the fact that apparently one word posts are a thing, lets see what we can do.
@wavemode: Want to elaborate on that vote a bit...at all even? Just voting with no context doesn't provide anything to convince anyone else, so I don't know how the hell you expect to get someone lynched if you honestly believe in your vote.
I think Raya handled the random stuff in good faith, not being fazed at all (despite the debacle of "is it pressure or is it not" that went on). Disregarding me completely seems pretty town to me, the disregard comes off as a townie who doesn't care about personal survival and rather finding the content that should be discussed instead.
Tywin is another thing, if he noticed that the idea was to run up pressure then why call out kop on it rather than help out? Seems disingenuous to me. I don't think there's any wrong intent in kop there since he obviously mistook my post initially, so very misplaced vote there by Tywin.Vote: Tywinfor the insincerity.
Everyone else so far pretty much has said nothing of substance, so no reads there.
No because I have said earlier that all of the vote-only posts needs to stop as they provide no information whatsoever. Your justification in 79 for your sheep is pretty bad too.
I can see this, but guuy is probably town.
Right but you are incorrect if you think Raya "ignored" the thread because she posted during that timeframe. While yes, it could have been scum ignoring pressure, I was getting town vibes from her anyway due to her eagerness to scumhunt and gather information. So it made perfect sense for her as town to just ignore the RVS bullshit and just try to find scum.In post 91, SmoothBlue wrote:Tywin,In post 75, TywinL wrote:@Smooth, the bolded is pretty much why I am townreading Raya so far.
I asked you to elaborate. I understood from the previous posts why you would agree with it, but I also indicated that Raya could just as easily have been inactive/not enough time to respond/scum ignoring pressure.
I'll make it clear for you this time. In your own words, why do you believe Raya is town rather than just ignoring the thread?
Care to explain this please?In post 70, CommKnight wrote:Guyy slipped. It was half-serious and half-RVS. But it's staying.
Question for you, why was I required to go into detail about my town read on Raya and answer questions about it but kunstar gets an ez pass? (even though kunstar was the one that wrote a wall about his Raya town read in the first place)In post 91, SmoothBlue wrote:Tywin,In post 75, TywinL wrote:@Smooth, the bolded is pretty much why I am townreading Raya so far.
I asked you to elaborate. I understood from the previous posts why you would agree with it, but I also indicated that Raya could just as easily have been inactive/not enough time to respond/scum ignoring pressure.
I'll make it clear for you this time. In your own words, why do you believe Raya is town rather than just ignoring the thread?
I don't think Sesq is really scum, he seems more of trolling-town to me.In post 159, SmoothBlue wrote:VOTE: Sesq
I'm down for a Sesq lynch today.
His content is very self-centered, concerned. He isn't exactly playing to find scum but playing as if others are trying to bait him.
He isn't going to provide any detailed reads from what I can see, and he isn't hunting.
I don't believe CommKnights reasoning is correct, regarding no wagon = scum. It is concerning to bring up the setup and how everyone should be playing this early into the game. This establishes a leadership role, which he has already exploited in the "slip" and then in this post.
In my opinion, leadership roles are used by players who;
1. have a ton of experience in the game
2. trying to divert town to non-mafia targets
Going to give CommKight the benefit of the doubt here, but duly noted.
So you are basically saying that by Srceen being so opportunistic......he ended up not being opportunistic.In post 184, Mulch wrote:It's opportunistic in the most basic sense of the word, but in reality it really ins't. Scum usually aren't that audacious to blatantly proclaim that they are sheeping without a reason. I mean, it could be scum. But there is a high chance it isn't, mostly just based on experience. 139 just shows pure openness and a severe lack of caring how they are perceived (this is a good thing) with calling out a scumteam that early.In post 180, TywinL wrote:@Mulch, how is Srceenplay's jump onto the guuy wagon not scummy and opportunistic as fuck? And how is 138 and 139 "brutally honest"?
My bad, you said 162 and I mistyped 168. Caring about your appearance rather doing some scumhunting (during the time when the Srceen wagon was forming) is rather scummy imo. That is why I townread Raya because she was unscathed when the pressure was on her.In post 185, Mulch wrote:Quote me where I say that?In post 180, TywinL wrote:And the fact that 168 pings town for you is worrisome.
Yes that is perfectly understandable why you wanted me to explain even after I bolded in Kunk’s post about his town read on Raya (which is what I agreed with) but I find it really odd that you seemed fixated onto me where there have plenty of people who have been agreeing and disagreeing with different reads. Overall, after looking through SmoothBlue’s iso, there really isn’t much scumhunting, especially in the Mulch v. SmoothBlue part of it. So witht that being said, Mulch did bring an interesting point about Smooth being scum in his opening post but I really didn’t think too much of it at first but now after my review, I am leaning towards agreeing here.In post 223, SmoothBlue wrote:Because Kungstar already went into detail regarding his town read in the initial post. You just agreed to it...In post 178, TywinL wrote:Question for you, why was I required to go into detail about my town read on Raya and answer questions about it but kunstar gets an ez pass? (even though kunstar was the one that wrote a wall about his Raya town read in the first place)
In post 217, Mulch wrote:I don't see it. Where are the inconsistencies?In post 202, SmoothBlue wrote:Your first scum read already has inconsistencies...
I also would like to ask why you didn't call out 189 by Kunk which agreed with my reads with a main basis and reason being that they were consistent. Did you miss it, or did you choose to agree with it- and if so, why?
1st part: Um, you literally said this which made me say what I said above (in bolded below):In post 214, Mulch wrote:In post 192, TywinL wrote: So you are basically saying that by Srceen being so opportunistic......he ended up not being opportunistic.
Not at all. I'm saying that the people jumping on him have a good probablity of being opportunistic.
My bad, you said 162 and I mistyped 168. Caring about your appearance rather doing some scumhunting (during the time when the Srceen wagon was forming) is rather scummy imo. That is why I townread Raya because she was unscathed when the pressure was on her.
I am also willing to lynch CommKnight today as well.
I don't get what your saying here. In 162 Screen is questioning a townread on him. Good scum can fake this but in general being worried about why people are townreading you isn't something that is on the front of scum's minds, who would rather just let the townread sit and not bother to parse through how people came to that conclusion in the first place. If they aren't being lynched, scum usually don't care. I really need you to expand on why you think worrying about a TOWNREAD is caring about your experience, because for me it's the opposite
Did I misunderstand that somehow?In post 184, Mulch wrote:In post 180, TywinL wrote:@Mulch, how is Srceenplay's jump onto the guuy wagon not scummy and opportunistic as fuck? And how is 138 and 139 "brutally honest"?It's opportunistic in the most basic sense of the word, but in reality it really ins't.Scum usually aren't that audacious to blatantly proclaim that they are sheeping without a reason. I mean, it could be scum. But there is a high chance it isn't, mostly just based on experience. 139 just shows pure openness and a severe lack of caring how they are perceived (this is a good thing) with calling out a scumteam that early.
WTF?In post 204, Mulch wrote:In post 189, kunkstar7 wrote:I maintain my position that the blind sheep is a null identifier. #101 is still too emotional of a reaction and he doesn't provide any counter points, so just looks like deflection.The thing is, this is NAI. Both town and scum want to deflect their lynches. A common misconception is that town don't give a fuck about themselves, which is not true.Plus, this isn't really emoitional.
Are you being dense on purpose?In post 297, guyy wrote:i read tywin's post 2 times and i don't understand why he just switched his vote from srceenplay to smoothblue
like is it just me or is a bulk of the post talking about srceenplay being scummy as fuck and then the end is just like 'but yeah maybe not tho he's kinda scumhunting now' and suddenly he's confident about voting smoothblue
like i felt like it was at least trying to flow into a mulch vote
the way it's written feels like he picked the vote first and then tried to craft the post around it
What do you mean by "invested with things"?In post 404, Sesq wrote:yes, sorry for lack of clarity.
mulch feels too invested with thingsIn post 395, TywinL wrote:Nothing has really happened...
I'm willing to lynch Smoothblue, Srceen, Mulch or CommKnight's slot today.
Those of you who do not scum read any of these people, why do you not scum read them?
comm is always kinda weird, new slot doesnt pull me any way
Not gonna lie, this is actually a pretty decent point...In post 415, Lang Buddha wrote:I mean look how instantly the guyy wagon disappeared completely man, and no one is bringing it back, except yours truly? I imagine scum would be all over reviving that juicy wagon if it happened to be on anyone else that a scumbuddy, don't you think?
I feel like we don't have enough time to get enough people to be willing to lynch him but whatever.In post 411, Flubbernugget wrote:Screen is viable what are you doing