Open 694: Friends and Enemies (Game Over!)

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I'm not saying those things make me town.

I'm saying YOU are saying the opposite things about me and calling me scum for it.

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The rankings on my list are too uncertain for me to vote Flubber atm.

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MathBlade read the game then come back with some actual points. This debate has ceased to be productive when you refuse to hear reason.

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I don't think fitz is scum

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I think this sums up how I feel about wave

At worst he's disruptive scum
At best he's a town that exhibits wildly anti town habits which is dangerous going into lylo

Er, expound on this for me GameNBurger. What of my habits are "wildly anti town".

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Well I've been trying to say this as nicely as possible for this whole game but talking to you is like talking to a wall that then completely misses your point and talks about something else

I'd love a specific example of this

And also lack of awareness of your own OMGUS

And this

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I would bet the game on you flipping red.

Jjh I would bet the game on Game being town.

MathBlade

Never go to Vegas

You don't have the luck for it

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VOTE: Sesq

Consolidation

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Had a light townread on Mantichora.

Fitz's contributions have seemed mostly genuine, more or less, so far. Not like he is pushing an agenda.

Also, I don't think scum!fitz would ask the masons to claim. You seem to think he just made a stupid scum play but I sort of doubt that.

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The Sesq wagon is comfy

Come to the dark side

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Who is the scumteam, Wave? This is how we need to be approaching today, not singular lynches.

If I had to guess a scumteam it would be the bottom three of the readslist I already gave, obviously...

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This is the wrong lynch

Havingfitz is town and wave is just coasting by

jjh... you still think game and fitz are partners here? Open your eyes to this distancing from the wagon. If you agree with me that game is scum then this should be telling you fitz is town.

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What half claim?

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Page top?

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jjh at day end would you compromise on Sesq vs. no-lynching? Please don't tell me your vote is going back to fitz

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I see it now that you mention it.

Lines up with how try hard he was as town with my last game with him.

Just wish I heard it from someone else

You heard it from me 20 pages ago

But I assume you mean someone else else

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This is such a fucking joke

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That Sesq is escaping the noose again after contributing essentially nothing to town all game, even though in the game jjh linked she was leading the scum hunting. And that we're probably now entering lylo because of it.

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When did he say that? Quote it

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Game, Game, Game, Flub

I'm not voting the other two, certainly not today.

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prod dodge

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If you had thoughts that you wanted to share, why hammer

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But crucifying people for compromise voting is stupid
Espescially with a town that can't agree like this

What is this referring to

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VOTE: GameNBurger

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UNVOTE:
Give me a minute

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Explain your cases on MathBlade and jjh

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For that matter, I need cards on the table from everyone. What is everyone's lynch preference and why. Mine is obv Game/Sesq, I can dig wallposts out of my ISO if you need the reasons

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Why

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Mentioning one thing somewhere is not the same as a wallpost. That's hard to pick out of a whole ISO

And as I said, if you ask I can link the posts in question when I get to a computer

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@GameNBurger - okay, besides my own gut feelings and meta analysis, primarily 1130 and 331 make me feel you are scum and 615, 619, and 740 make me feel sesq is scum

So, I ask again, what was your Math and jjh case?

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If we have agreement from four for sesq, only thing left is for her to claim

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Ah, a prod!

dodges

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Then what are your reads

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So are we dragging this out to two weeks or should we get this show on the road

Sesq is just stalling at this point

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VOTE: Sesq

I'm town but props and congrats to the scumteam if this is wrong

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If sesq is really scum I'm gonna take a long hard look at wavemode given I don't like there last statement

I still disagree with this lynch

Aglras I have time to handle business

I'm curious of what is so wrong with my statement

But I'm actually more curious of wtf is Aglras

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Game

We know you're scum

You don't have to keep up the facade

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What was your plan?

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i thought sesq and game were both town but game's posting like he knows sesq is mafia and egg and wave probably would have outed if they were mafia voting town unless they're just being dicks so i don't know

I'm not the one trying to score townie points before the flip

If you were town you could just wait for the flip to "this is sad if we lose"

It's fluff that has no good Intent

It's funny because the purpose of 1894 is literally to score townie points before the flip

You've been hard defending her all game

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I think someone would be showboating rather than leaving us in suspense

In any case, the masons obviously decided not to claim and Sesq claimed non-mason

Not sure what made this a quick-hammer, as you described it

Sesq continuing to do nothing wasn't going to change my mind about her

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Your flip on Math is hilarious

Oh, and I'm the scum now? I've been bussing sesq this whole game? Page 25 and 26 was all scum theater? And this deal I made with Egg. What was my motivation there?

Carefully evaluate the position you're taking, Game. It's not a good one

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Game has been on every mislynch and was not on Sesq's lynch

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Hey so now that it's time for open speech since there's one mason left

Bombcat has only been carried thru this game because people have been soft reading him as a mason trying to make it to end game

The jjh vote on him early in the game made me think jjh was not a mason and was scum earlier and that Connor was distancing with bombcat

But now jjh is confirmed mason

So can we stop carrying his useless ass thru the game since we no longer think he's mason

Interesting so Bombcat is town by this post I think as Game wants to lynch bombcat and Game prob scum.

So Game today.

Actually he's bussing

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Well, actually... who knows

I need to evaluate

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He said he reread the game and thought bombcat was mason, but I find that hard to believe, given Connor and jjh wanted bombcat dead, and bombcat openly called jjh a mason

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You're gonna have to explain to me what was such a fiasco about the sesq lynch

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Math has been nothing but trouble

But he's not partnered with Game

And I strongly feel Game is scum here

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@Mod - I'm V/LA until Tuesday, 9/5

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Let's lynch Game

Game are you a a mason

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No

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But then, what can we ever be truly sure of

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Benjamin Franklin said there were only three things certain in life: death, taxes, and that GameNBurger is a Mafia Goon

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Actually answer 2009 before a CC.

You could be trying to bait a mason claim.

it's entirely what he's doing

How are you certain of that

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YAWN

Obvious attempt to draw out the mason

VOTE: GameNBurger

Call me when the night ends

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I'm the mason

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No, I have questions for Transcend

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I mean, just at face value, Transcend has been way townier this game than the Fen/Egg slot. And I think as time went on it became more and more blatantly obvious that Game was scum, so I didn't really like the fact that Egg was soft-defending him for a while. And Egg is an extremely rare mention in Game's ISO; it's like Game forgot Egg existed and that was strange to me. Contrast with Transcend, whom Game pushed on for most of the game, then hard buddied in lylo. Those two have literally never had a null-null relationship that you'd usually see from scum partners.

So yeah, going into today I was planning on voting Egg, and I think maybe he suspected that. What I don't get is why I'm still alive. It actually doesn't help either of you - Math would have won killing me and voting bomb, Egg would have won killing me and voting bomb. So obviously it only makes sense as a WIFOM attempt. But Math is not making a WIFOM NKA case to defend himself. Egg on the other hand, is:

explain why I spent the entire game bussing sesq just to turn around and bus game and then set up 3p LYLO by killing the scummiest player in the game. If I was scum, this would have to be the most self destructive game I've ever played and I like to think I'm better than that as scum.

Meh. Either way, I'd rather be wrong with my buddy than go against his wishes and throw the game

VOTE: Egg

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I mean

I was the only person consistently scumreading Sesq and Game since day 1

But ok

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I did scumread Egg and Game for a large proportion of the game- just not as much as whoever we lynched all the other days.

Well, I suppose that's the difference between accuracy and precision