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Eh. It's a Friday, and the weekend. Not to mention this game is pretty straight forward, so there is little need to discuss game mechanics. Ultimately this game is going to come down to good ol' raw scumhunting!In post 13, Quick wrote:Slow game. Looks like everyone has confirmed? Why the lack of posts?
Assemblrotws, any reason for the vote? Anything at all?
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I knew your name looked familiar. You were in that unpleasant Watchman game.
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Means they f'ed up a post, and re-quoting it to make corrections.In post 29, Jamiet99uk wrote:What's EBWOP?
The mods inform us. Though I've heard talk about trying to get this feature about.In post 30, Jamiet99uk wrote:Also by the way, does this site have an automatic vote counter or anything?
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wagon" is you. At this stage of the game you could just do a quick scroll through and find that out-
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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... reviations
^ For the record, I found this to be very helpful when I first started here on MS. Has a good amount of the abbreviations used.-
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Yea. That was the one. Cheers to hoping this one is better.In post 59, lucca261 wrote:
was that the one that Grey got force replaced and everybody was fighting everyone? I think I remember that. it made me quit mafia, for like, six months. so, how are ya? any reads so far?In post 35, Aubrey wrote:I knew your name looked familiar. You were in that unpleasant Watchman game.
VOTE: Cheeky
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as for reads, I don't have anything super sufficient yet.
I'm not overly keen on Jamie right now as everyone else is. 36, asking for a vote count after two pages in, just reads as an attempt to seem productive and concerned about the general game state. 3 scrolls & a back-space button would have given him the info he needed. His most recent post, 71, also rubs me the wrong way a bit. It makes me wonder if he is trying to figure out the site meta, so that he doesn't step on toes later, when he should just play the game as he sees fit naturally. When I transitioned to MS from my home site, I don't remember being really concerned with the site meta, and began to understand it through my own experiences.
I also don't see his vote overly towny either as everyone is saying it is. Scum know town wants to get out of RVS, so naturally they will also be looking for reasons to vote someone with stronger reasoning than RVS.
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Chisa I like simply because they are being open & throwing out reads in 68. Haven't done a deeper read on whatever they and cheeky are currently arguing about.-
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In post 102, Jamiet99uk wrote:I'm thinking about our Masons. Important we keep them alive if we can. They effectively have a 1-shot copscan.no, I think we should hunt them down vigorously until they see the rope-
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I'm not trying to be a complete dick, but saying "In post 107, Jamiet99uk wrote:Right Aubrey, you're so very, very clever, you win the game on you own. I'll just sit here and not post anything.Guys let's try and not kill the masons" is basically equivalent to saying, "Guys, to beat the game we need to kill scum." It's just not progressive talk whatsoever, but rather stating the obvious. Once again, it just comes off as talk for the sake of seeming active.-
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@Jamiet, I don't see any difference or innovation between what you said, and whatIn post 102, Jamiet99uk wrote:I'm thinking about our Masons. Important we keep them alive if we can. They effectively have a 1-shot copscan.shouldalready be common knowledge though. That is where I'm coming from.
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I seriously hope he just didn't understand your word choice, and already understood that mason concept. Regardless, that post to me still is a basic post I can see coming form scum in order to generate content during the awkward opening phrase of the game. Say or do something that I think would more than likely come form a town mindset, and my nerves may settle about you.
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I also don't understand where you get this idea that I'm acting all high and mighty towards you. If you just hate being suspected, then why are you playing mafia? If it's because I'm trying to be nice, and help you with the MS interface like I wish people would have done more with me, than I'll keep my mouth shut & let you just figure it out on your own.-
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So, what's the deal with the first 2. Assembl I can guess.
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Quick skim while at work. Saw this,
Because it was an obvious RVS post. I didn't need Assem to confirm that.In post 157, Maki Harukawa wrote:Don't think Quick/Aubrey are partners with this I wanna know why Aubrey jumped in here instead of letting Assme answer and then putting in your 2 cents seems a bit wkish-
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Understanding how the world perceives oneself is typical, and all that really read as.In post 159, Maki Harukawa wrote:Was this topic important what so ever or more so banter for you Chisa?
In post 159, Maki Harukawa wrote:I'm scared that I agree with most of this (my) post.
......Okay.In post 166, Maki Harukawa wrote:need to see more from Aubrey
I initially had some town vibes from this, but then paranoia set in. Whatever happened to this, "In post 176, Maki Harukawa wrote:I don't know who I want to vote in the 2 because I doubt it's scum vs scum (Cheeky and Awoo)I feel good about my vote on Awoo" thing. I can't help but wonder if this is just a tactic to see how the positions of these two players develop down the line.
Firts. Poeple. Fial. All caps.In post 185, Epic Fial wrote:MY NAME IS ERIC BUT POEPLE CALL ME EPIC BECAUSE OF MY LAST NAME.
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In post 194, Epic Fial wrote:Maybe scum are lurking weebs in this game. Another possibility is that they are posting a lot but are not weebs. So I'm going to be considering both weebs and non-weebs, and people who are lurking and people doing the opposite of that, whatever it is called. On the other hand, they might be in the middle somewhere. Nearly certain we can hit scum in one of those groups.-
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I feel like this is a question with an obvious answer that doesn't exactly need to be asked. At the end of the day, one shouldn't overly mind wagons on scumleans or null leans. Maki obviously didn't town read the slot, so...What's there to get exactly from this.In post 202, Lalendra wrote:
Why wouldn't you mind a wagon on someone you don't scumread? Is he null for you at the moment?In post 182, northsidegal wrote:In post 187, Maki Harukawa wrote:I don't mind a wagon doesn't mean I sr Jamie I want to know why people tr Jamie because from what I'm getting he's very towny to some people that I'm not seeing.
.....Are the two of you friends or something? If you're town, you'll need to actually prove yourself to everyone as well. You are no innocent child. If this isn't friendly banter, it just comes off as an awkward thing to say as town to me.In post 203, Assemblerotws wrote:
Your gut is good when you're town. Just make sure to prove to me that you are.In post 199, CommKnight wrote:UNVOTE:
Gotta finish up my paper for my next class then I'll be back after the class is over. But I think gut is gonna kick in for a while here for reads.
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Epic comes off as a joke account. If he doesn't start taking the game semi seriously, he'll probably need to be exterminated at some point. Scum will keep problematic slots around, and problematic slots are not good for the town to have around for the later game. Take that for what you will. I'm not above lynching slots that I think will be unreadable.
Post 149? I don't remember having a huge reaction to it. They seemed somewhat generic at the time. He's still voting Awoo for a early day 1 vote that has changed. I'd like to know what he thinks about newer events regarding Awoo a bit more, and how those events are effecting his stance on the slot. The Assemble suspicions are understandable, but a safe spot to suspect in general. Your slot in which he didn't like your semi naked vote during the very beginning of the game was another kind of generic place to throw suspicion as well.In post 209, lucca261 wrote:question: what do you thought about jamie explanation of the readlist?
I mean...Okay. Please, by all means, engage with that not as good content and push it. push it. push it real good.In post 220, Quick wrote:I think Aubrey is kinda suspect for not giving as good of content-
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I'm sorry that I think your coasting, not addressing my concerns, and producing Eh content.In post 255, Jamiet99uk wrote:It seems to me that Epic Fial and Aubrey are both voting for me because they don't like my style, rather than for anything that actually makes me seem likely to be scum.
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Jamiet. I'm in my phone, and severely hate quoting when I am. That being said, how are you missing the one section that is specifically about you in which I state what I'd like to see from you starting with the 3rd sentence in I believe. It's plain as day. I also fail to believe that you really think I'm solely voting you for anarcist quoting methods, so plz explain to me how I'm voting you for stylistic choices.-
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Eh. I actually don't mind the vote to much though. Lalendra has kinda been taking a backseat a hair I feel, so I get the coasting vibe.In post 274, lucca261 wrote:thinking awoo is scum. this last post feels like someone who is trying to participate, rather than trying to scumhunt.-
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@Jamiet, This was the indirect question I mentioned btw.In post 234, Aubrey wrote:He's still voting Awoo for a early day 1 vote that has changed. I'd like to know what he thinks about newer events regarding Awoo a bit more, and how those events are effecting his stance on the slot.-
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That whole block of text under Lucca's quote was about you. This might be site meta differences, but just because I start talking about 1 player doesn't mean that whole post will be about one single player.In post 307, Jamiet99uk wrote:kinda buried in a big block of text and not directly addressing me.
So let me get this straight. You originally scumread the slot, but that slot didn't keep your interest that much moving forward until you were pressured into expanding on your read? This is a red flag to me. If you scum-read a slot, they should hold a good amount of your attention. As the slot begins to change, shouldn't you take note of that instead of beingIn post 308, Jamiet99uk wrote:Having re-read Awoo I no longer scumread him (not her, sorry it was the female picture). Awoo seems to be looking carefully at people's reactions which is good scumhunting play. I particularly agree with this response to Lucca261. It's egregiously scummy to want to know what people think you would do or say as scum (so you can later avoid doing or saying things that will get you scumread).
VOTE: UNVOTE until I can properly reread Lucca.forcedinto recap? It's stuff like this that hints artificially suspecting people to me.
That was a fun game. I was wondering when you'd list out your credentials.In post 309, CommKnight wrote:Aubrey was the only one who really got past me.-
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I don't remember her being forced to talk about her initial read unlike yourself. Did she not come in and say "In post 327, Jamiet99uk wrote:Lalendra is doing the exact same thing with a vote from the shitphase still being on me because, as Lalendra has said, they haven't had a better option yet. Do you scumread Lalendra for that behaviour, Aubrey?yeah I scum-read them, but it changed." Where as you were forced by me to talk about it & then changed. It all goes back to the quote below.
That is the key difference. If my memory is fuzzy, do let me know. Wrote this quickly, and didn't have time to backtrack.In post 325, Aubrey wrote:If you scum-read a slot, they should hold a good amount of your attention. As the slot begins to change, shouldn't you take note of that instead of being forced into recap?
I'm not a fan of the slot already, so what are you trying to get at with this even if my memory is incorrect.In post 327, Jamiet99uk wrote:Do you scumread Lalendra for that behaviour, Aubrey?-
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Jamiet, your basically arguing "if you're wrong one time, you must be scum." That's a bit outlandish, and seems like you're twisting his bravado into a potential smoking gun. Town, nor scum, will aggree to the deal you're providing him below.
Comm has already admitted that he can be wrong occasionally while being confident in his reads & accuracy. Town you should understand this, and just hold him to so many mis-lynches before saying enough is enough. That forces him to be somewhat accountable. Furthermore,In post 342, Jamiet99uk wrote:- If I sheep your vote this turn, and (y)our target is lynched, and flips TOWN, then you agree that YOU will be the lynch tomorrow
This looks like a scum suicide ploy to relief yourself of pressure.In post 363, Jamiet99uk wrote:I will agree follow him, and to vote for myself today, if he agrees that he will lead a D2 lynch on *himself* if I flip town.
What's it to be, CommKnight? I am not afraid to die.
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Hi.In post 347, lucca261 wrote:Aubrey is getting a little bland to me. whenever I interact with him, I come back thinking he is town, but when unquestioned, he's kinda one note on pushing Jamie so far. so back to null too.-
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Inside joke. If you're really curious, you can view the previous thread to understand it.In post 377, Flavor Leaf wrote:You’re another Open Queue regular.
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LMFAOIn post 375, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m just going to state he’s town because it seems easier than dealing with him right now.-
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I'd like examples from Flavor personally. Wall posting isn't scummy in itself, and that seems to be partial to his suspicion. I'd like to see what he is seeing as fluffing and fabricating. I didn't mind Lucca giving out all his reads onto players, simply because it limits movability for scum inherently.-
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or is this where you're solely pulling that from?In post 382, Flavor Leaf wrote:Fair enough.
I don’t like Maki’s and Lucca’s back and forth a few pages back. Something about it’s weird to me.
The whole both could be scum/one of them likely is scum seems like theatre bailing each other out, and allowing both onto multiple mislynches with reasoning, while distancing away from each other.-
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I've never understood what people mean by chainsaw, nor do I really care to. It's like people screaming OMGUS every time they turn around like it actually means something and worth acting on. Regardless, Lucca doesn't interest me right now based on a generic view I have for scum and town. If he's scum, he's tying his hands behind his back by giving reads like he is. More likely to come from a town mindset in my opinion.-
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Wasn't likely*In post 442, Aubrey wrote:We've already had a similar conversation with Jamiet after he said something else previously that was soft claimish at the very beginning of the game. It should have been already quietly determined to everyone he wasn't a mason.-
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Commenting as I catchup:
This is just all around weird to me. He's pushing someone you scum-read, yet your counter post reads more like a emotional/defensive post in favor of the very slot you dislike. I'd expect your post to have more of a neutral/apprehensive tone about it, than this spit-fire one. Especially since you both agree that Jamiet is a questionable slot at the very least in this time span. (edit: okay I see you actually later voted for him. Don't know why you waited until later, but K. Interested to hear this whenever it comes.)In post 486, Epic Fial wrote:
Wtf is this shit? How is that possibly ai? And are you always this obsessed with your gut? Is it because you are up your own ass so far? I read through one of those games you boasted about, and you were freaking clueless. And in that game you were boating about yet another game where you caught Assemblerotws because of some dumb crumb thing. I bet you'll be telling your grandkids about it one day?In post 467, CommKnight wrote:{CheekyTeeky}
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{northsidegal, Maki Harukawa, Chisa Yukizome}
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Definitely a bit firmer of a readlist than before. I want to brush Jamiet off as a noob!Town. But his play is just soo scummy. Like I don't know any other site that I have ever played on that would read his play as town. So I can't even say "Oh, it's the culture over there." Because I bet if I entered the site, it definitely isn't.
Also his bitching about the mod and replacements seems like he's trying to push the topic away from himself. Blaming it on the community when every mafia forum I used before this has always had a reserve list in case of site flakes or people taking on more than they can handle at the time. This is the first site where the game begins without a reserve list already made up that I've been to though. But that also means a lot of other sites are use to people replacing out or bailing as well. So his attitude is unneeded.
I think I'm just waiting to see some flips though before I can get into figuring this one out. There's a few ways it can go and I'm trying to do it where mafia are forced to out themselves.
In short, this game is boring as shit. Let's fight! Have at you!
In post 482, CheekyTeeky wrote:Lol yes I have an air of crazed confidence/arrogance which I love about me
LOL, a overconfident & arrogant townie usually brings about their own demise sometimes. Transend usually gets lynched or almost lynched in his games it seems. I miss him.In post 487, CheekyTeeky wrote:No my playstyle almost always gets me lynched early, I do plan on working out why that is at some point.
In post 493, Jamiet99uk wrote:Because otherwise it's too obvious who's getting mason'd
He's not arguing that you're attempting to get mason'd, but rather arguing that the masons would attempt to mason you, Which might I add is a really bad move on Awoo's part if town. talking about anything regarding masons only limits the man pool for scum to kill in, and gives them extra input. Furthermore, killing a person you think is likely to flip town, is just anti town completely.In post 493, Jamiet99uk wrote:You are misreading my intentions. I'm not attempting to get Masoned. If I am not a Mason the Masons should definitely not attempt to Mason me. I would strongly discourage any such action!
I can see scum pushing a case they thought could easily pass as a policy lynch, yet help keep their hands clean by keeping the door open through saying they don't think it will flip scum...In post 499, Maki Harukawa wrote:You know when I saw Awoo's post I was like *perks eyebrow* myself but I think it's so honest that scum doesn't need to say a line like that I don't think scum Awoo looks at that post and clicks submit
I don't town-read the guy alone, but his wagon sure got interesting.In post 504, Quick wrote:I am also starting to TR Jamie
Daaaammnnnnn straight.In post 507, Awoo wrote:You know, I just taking a shower and I was thinking to myself "Wait a minute, in hindsight that post I just made was antitown as hell.
This whole "In post 515, Lalendra wrote:Sigh. I really don't want to townread Jamie after all that, but UNVOTE:
I already had some doubt, and his last few posts felt very Towny to me. And now I'm back at square one.whelp back to square one thing" just reads as you waiting around to see how things develop. If anybody town-reads this slot, plz step forward.
VOTE: Lalendra
Tired of this shadow sneaker. You don't come across as someone really pushing their own cases, nor a lime light fighter. Questionable characteristics.
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F it, I'm tired. I've lightly skimmed past post 593.
Whelp, I learned a new word today! phonetically it sounds awful though.In post 573, Jamiet99uk wrote:purport
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Me thinky ppl hatey Mr. Commy because they dislike his ego more so than for scummy reasons. Keep this is mind when reading him. His groupings (though without backing) do remind me of my first encounter with him a bit. He did however have confirmed flips back then before performing wagon analysis.
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I'm not going to go digging through a haystack to find a needle.In post 580, Jamiet99uk wrote:Actually Quick has been intelligent enough to notice something that many of you have failed to grasp.
In post 583, lucca261 wrote:VOTE: CommKnight
I think it will be better to leave Comm for a bit. Given time, it maybe become easier to read him for better or worse. If for better, he will be an active and aggressive participant Unlike Lalendra.In post 583, lucca261 wrote:Lalendra unvoting of Jamie feels off. her whole game feels off, like she's holding back something. i'm still expecting a big breakthrough from her slot.
Quick is one of my nuller reads. He's poking things with a stick, but that's mostly all I'm feeling from him besides decent activity. I'm not overly mad at the wagon occurring, but I'd rather see a slot that I scum-read lynched than a null slot. It also goes back to kinda what I said above, moving forward I know I'll get stances and decent info from his slot unlike Lalendra.In post 585, lucca261 wrote:question for you: what do you think of the end of Jamie being the hot wagon, going directly to Quick?
I'm still not a fan of Jamiet. However the wagon that grew was kinda eh. (totally going off memory here) Comm's vote seemed to be more of a, "okay fuck you" type of deal. Which isn't exactly out of character for town-him, but could easily come from scum-him too imo. Remember Dragnalus Comm?
Then we have Awoo, horrid vote, And then Lalendra who was a tag along basically. Like I'm really at a crossroads with this because I dislike Jamiet's content, but almost dislike how the wagon grew just as much. The only vote I can remember that didn't overly bother me was Quick, but that was because he was caming from a similar I was coming from.-
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LOL, pretty sure I killed you in that game.In post 600, Flavor Leaf wrote:I replaced in, targeted him, didn’t put a lot of effort into it, then got night kill. Aubrey is kind of the same way.-
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I'm entitled to an opinion that I'm sure a number of other people share. <--- which is odd since I recall some negative comments thrown you're way, but little follow up. Quick and Comm sure have protected you from being a viable lynch today it seems.In post 663, Lalendra wrote:I don't really worry too much about level of content, lurking is NAI - life gets busy and I know I have lurked as both alignments. Active lurking/fluffposting is different imo. But I don't feel that's what I've been doing. You are obviously entitled to disagree.
Active lurking and fluff posting are equally bad, so what are you really trying to say here.
I've already touched base on this, but didn't you argue that I and someone else were pushing you on play-style alone? Move forward to the present, and what are you now doing?In post 658, Jamiet99uk wrote:Anyone who strongly townreads CommKnight: Why? Do you like being shouted at? Do you enjoy bright colours?
Usual I assume.In post 666, Quick wrote:Another D1 lynch, lovely.
In post 697, Chisa Yukizome wrote:UNVOTE: comm
....So how about you put that vote of yours to use! maybe attempt to force a new wagon into existence if you dislike the two main ones.In post 697, Chisa Yukizome wrote:for the record I am currently opposed to both comm and quick lynches
In post 699, CommKnight wrote:I suppose what to expect from Flubber, he got mislynched in that other game for bad pushes as well.
Comm, don't turn this game into a "In post 701, CommKnight wrote:Yeah but your gut was shit that game too.you're shit, and you're shit, and you're shit" type of game plz. It quickly just turns the environment into a toxic(ier) one.
Ugh.In post 706, Lalendra wrote:
I just do.In post 703, Jamiet99uk wrote:@Northsidegal, Lalendra, Maki
Re-read CommKnight's ISO and tell me why you TR him.
Why don't you?
....So how about you put that vote of yours to use! maybe attempt to force a new wagon into existence if you dislike the two main ones.In post 716, Maki Harukawa wrote:This might be town v town...I like both of these guys last few days
UNVOTE:EchoEchoEchoEcho
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Okay caught up. Quick's push onto Comm isn't one that should make Comm a scum-read, but rather a null read. Looking at everything, the only two legit scum-reads he should have are on cheeky and Awoo. Wondering if this is just a survivalistic push, but whatever at this point. VOTE: Quick HAMMER. If town, sorry.
As much as I'd like to see Lalendra lynched, today seems to be between Quick and Comm. The Comm wagon was horrid, and nothing more than "I don't like your cockiness." Seems like an easy easy place for scum to vote in general, so staying the hell away from that.-
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I thought you were at L1 for a bit, and would have claimed mason immediately at L1.....In post 767, Quick wrote:That was really bad if that was the hammer and Aubry didn't wait for a claim.-
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