Open 706: C9++

[northsidegal]

VOTE: almost chara

lynch the hydra!

[northsidegal]

nice santa hat there ms tonereader!

xXTonereaderXx....would you just play the fcuking game. Ffs....smh.

what gives you the impression that she isn't? she's contributed more than i have, at this point.


by the way, i think cy is town. he was incredibly awkward in rvs the last game i saw him in – i like his observations and his

tone

so far.

[northsidegal]

he was incredibly awkward in rvs the last game i saw him in

incredibly awkward as scum, that is.

[northsidegal]

by the way, the jodax wagon is bad.

I think you voted yourself to avoid offending anyone else and called it random to eliminate any responsibility in voting yourself.

how convinced are you that this is the case?

also by the way, chip's hop on and off the wagon is weird – probably something to come back to later in the game.

[northsidegal]

I like my Jodaxq vote but I'd be down for a D1 xtoner pl.

P.edit. @NSG, I'm convinced as I can be without esp.

If you don't like the wagon what about Chip Butty leaving it is weird?

why are you so convinced? like, how is your conviction so strong that you're absolutely certain that jodax did it as a scum move to deny town information instead of for any other possible reason?
VOTE: havingfitz

also, it was the manner in which he hopped on and hopped off. it's an odd progression, to me.

Posting images and nothing of real substance aside one town-scum list. I hardly consider that playing the game

what gives you the impression that she isn't? she's contributed more than i have, at this point.

Cutting and pasting from a set of seven or eight questions with the occasional quote thrown in while providing no original thought or opinion is not playing the game imo. It's a lame ass shtick that got old within a few posts.

it just seems like a strong reaction so early in the game.

[northsidegal]

Spoiler:

Player List

Almost Chara
xXTonereaderXx
davesaz
Jodaxq
cytheflyguy

Schism

Voyc
northsidegal
havingfitz

Assemblerotws

Elmo TeH AzN
Chip Butty
Sleepless Assassin

Player List

Almost Chara
xXTonereaderXx
davesaz
cytheflyguy
northsidegal
Voyc

Schism

Jodaxq
Elmo TeH AzN
Chip Butty

Assemblerotws

havingfitz
Sleepless Assassin

@tonereader, what happened to move the highlighted votes between these two posts?

[northsidegal]

I can't believe I have had to intervene this early....@xXTonereaderXX...you do not have a post restriction...nobody in this game does. I am going to have to ask you to stop trolling. Please play with behavior that is conducive to the game.

i'm against this, for what it's worth. there's nothing necesasrily anti-wincon or otherwise against the rules about what she's doing, from what i can see.

[northsidegal]

Excluding IC and Myself:

Dave
Tone
Cy
Fitz
Voyc
Joda
------------------- Lynch Line
North (V/LA, probably safe for D1)
Chip
Elmo
Assemble
Assassin

why is fitz so high on the list? is it really just this?

People that talk about the randomness of RVS tend to be town, I read it as TvT. If anything, Joda would move down a peg if you want to argue its TvS, but right now I have Fitzy in my townreads for it.

why is voyc above joda and above the line? why am i below the line?

[northsidegal]

I’m not absolutely certain of anything.

I think Joda’s action are suspect and in the absence of anything more suspect (or more town from her) I am going to vote her. My reasoning is layed out more a few comments below. My “convinced” is probably as defineable as your “the manner in which” reasoning for suspecting Chip. I went and looked at his “progression” and there is nothing out of the ordinary IMO. Apparently opinions aren't always the same.

hmm? but what happened to:

P.edit. @NSG, I'm convinced as I can be without esp.

i'm not asking you if you know for a fact that joda is scum – i'm asking how strong is your

belief

that she's scum. it seems that it's pretty strong, no?

my comment about chip is perfectly definable, i just haven't explained it very thoroughly yet.

Opinion again. You think my reaction is too strong for so early in the game. I disagree. If Tone is town…his “humorous trolling”, to paraphrase others, is of no benefit to town when he is annoying town and not providing them clear opinions on the game. Ex. I’m town. He/she is annoying the shit out of me because IMO they are not playing the game in the best interests of town. Being a distraction to the game (and the town members in that game) is not pro-town. Hence my strong reaction to something that obviously annoys me more than it does some others. Some who would even be willing to avoid games with Tone in the future based on this cut and paste play.

And yes mod…it is annoying the shit out of some people [at least one for sure]).

er, yeah. it is my opinion. is that supposed to discount what i'm saying or something? if so, pretty weak defense.

tonereader has posted more reads on players than i have – how is that "not providing them clear opinions on the game"?

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by the way, retracting my meta-read on cy, even if it still leaves him as a slight townlean. he just finished a game as scum that definitely went against what i expected, so i'll have to look out more than i thought.

pedit:

Everyone above you I have reads on.

Despite the RVS vote, I still stand with the fact that everyone on Assassin is town. I think the vote may be serious now since it hasn't been changed. My opinion of Joda dropped a little while I was writing up #172, because if you think Fitz/Joda was TvS, you should be looking at Joda first. I still think its TvT but I reserve to change that opinion if my reads on Assassin/Assemble are off.

you don't have a read on me but you have a read on voyc?

[northsidegal]

you meant me instead of chara for the first vote?

[northsidegal]

so wait, when you were making your readslist were you looking over your posts to see where to place everyone instead of just doing it by thoughts?

[northsidegal]

HURT: schism

[northsidegal]

so why are people actually scumreading schism? i'm not sure i understand the reasons.

i'd also like to restate at this point that fitz is scum. his confidence in his jodax vote reads as completely fake, and the awkwardness in response of 141 along with the strange "opinion" argument makes me pretty confident in this.
VOTE: havingfitz

[northsidegal]

Are you telling me fitz' confidence is fake, but Schism's confidence in his early reads on both Joda and Tonereader are justified?

~A50

schism seems town to me from his responses, fitz doesn't.

[northsidegal]

I'm not 100% certain she is scum. You ask me how confident I am in a page 2 vote and continue to base a ridiculous scumread on how you interpret my confidence. Absurd. And yet afaict I don't see you having any problem with Joda giving a lame reason for voting herself and following that up with an even lamer (and more likely lie) about how she selected herself to vote.

you keep waffling back and forth on how confident you actually are on this. first, it was this:

P.edit. @NSG, I'm convinced as I can be without esp.

then, this:

I’m not absolutely certain of anything. I think Joda’s action are suspect and in the absence of anything more suspect (or more town from her) I am going to vote her. My reasoning is layed out more a few comments below.

finally:

i'm asking how strong is your belief that she's scum.

7 out of 10. 5 being null and 10 being confirmed somehow.

so what is it? why should i have such a scumread on joda for her rvs vote? like, i don't see why it's such a huge scumtell for someone to vote themselves in rvs, and the idea that she did it to avoid giving any associatives just doesn't make sense. thus, it reads as fabricated to me.

I'm not scum. But you might be with this push on me.

Other than the last page of the game I am a few pages behind and will be

mostly v/LA until Wednesday. I'll try to post if I get any time. Tough around Christmas.

why do i do this as scum? why wouldn't i just vote schism, unless you believe we're partners? it already looked like i was set-up to vote schism after the line of questioning earlier, so why would i come back to you? you, on the other hand, have already set yourself up with a strong scumread on jodax – for you to switch would be a strange jump.

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i mean, i'm here, but nothing much has happened that i feel the need to address since my last post. i guess i'll read through the thread and try to come up with something.

[northsidegal]

actually...

@everyone, in your very next post give one person you think is scum and one person you think is town, and reasons for both.

[northsidegal]

i'll start:

i think fitz is scum, as i've already made clear before. his initial jump on jodax seems opportunistic to me, and his confidence seems fake. i've talked about this in more depth previously.

i think davesaz is town. his interactions with jodax show a belivable town agenda to me, and i don't see how his explicit disapproval of a policy wagon in making his tonereader vote would come from scum. i would appreciate if he would contribute more.

[northsidegal]

Voyc is replaced by CheekyTeeky! Welcome!

!!!

will hopefully get a chance to make some responses when i get a bit more time.

[northsidegal]

huh? is the game over?

[northsidegal]

oh, cool! good job everyone, and good game! i kind of stopped following along for the last day there, but spectating day two was great and there was a lot of good gamesolving there!

annoyed that i got shot night one, though (and it was by fitz, not by the maf, fyi)

@mod are you releasing the private threads?