Open 309 - Fire and Ice [Game Over]

[Kcdaspot]

Hiraki: thats anti town. thats like painting a large "i hate this town sign" directly on your person. while its true that explaing everything is a bad idea as th town could get bogged down with info, it is VITAL that the town explains SOME things. odd things. things that seem weird. thats all i can say really. im on my phone. ill try to get a better post asap.

[Hiraki]

Fuck it.

I'm motivated. You want content? Give me a few days. I'll require a quicklynch after I'm done with Robo.

Fucking using semantics in a fucking post fucking pisses me off.

Fucking.

@KCDA: I see what you mean, but I haven't had anything that I've needed to say yet.

With this, I'm going to have to say everything because I'm putting all my cards on the table to get Roboscum out.

Get ready for this fucking wall.

And before anyone posts a fucking image.

Yes. I am mad.

[Cirno]

Official Vote Count as of post #101

Robocopter87 (3)-Hiraki projectmatt silavor
Toro (1)- Nikanor
Tid (1)- Amor
projectmatt (3)- LadyHaHa Kcdaspot YoYoGuy435
Amor (1)- Toro
YoYoGuy435 (1)-Alduskkel

Not Voting(2) - Tid Robocopter87

The deadline for Day 1 is Sunday, June 5, 2011 at 3:27:43 PM CDT.
If no player is lynched by that time, a no lynch will occur.

With

12

players alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

[Kcdaspot]

okay just think it through.

hate to see a total REAG wall.

[Toro]

Fuck it.

I'm motivated. You want content? Give me a few days. I'll require a quicklynch after I'm done with Robo.

Fucking using semantics in a fucking post fucking pisses me off.

Fucking.

@KCDA: I see what you mean, but I haven't had anything that I've needed to say yet.

With this, I'm going to have to say everything because I'm putting all my cards on the table to get Roboscum out.

Get ready for this fucking wall.

And before anyone posts a fucking image.

Yes. I am mad.

OfT: I think he's mad.

Ont: Posting your reasons sure as hell looks better than not posting your reasons.

[silavor]

Robo. You said you were legally obliged to play to your win condition, thus

forcing

you to say no. The only time your win condition

forces

you to say no is when you're scum. QED you're scum. It's really not that hard to understand.

More to the point, again I ask,

how does any of this make me a hypocrite

. Tid was at a toss-up between two players, and figured he'd sit back and wait before picking one to vote. That's why I called him a bet-hedger. Meanwhile, I noticed you did something that's rather scummy, pushed you on it, and you collapsed into a heap of wailing, flailing, obvscum.

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT HYPOCRITICAL

[YoYoGuy435]

I'm not a big fan of how Hiraki didn't want people to explain everything. Ok, first I'd like to point out that he said people giving their reasoning would be bad because that would let maf know who to kill. This sent all sorts of red-flags up to me. First off, maf doesn't need any information, as they are the uninformed majority. But, he fails to acknowledge the fact that town in fact, needs this information quite badly. Not giving your reasoning for your actions is one of the most anti-town things one can do.

Unvote;Vote Hiraki

[Amor]

Woah, so much rage...

I'm not really sure what to make of Robo, Hiraki and to a lesser extent silavor getting hella mad about mafia. Robo's increasingly panicked tone looks kind of like newbscum freaking out about a RVS wagon, but he's not that new so that doesn't make sense. On the other side Hiraki just seems to be getting mad about having to provide content. Surely this can't be the first game you've played where people have expected you to explain your vote? Why all the swearing about it?

I do look forward to Hiraki's case though, as I'm not really sure how Robo is obvscum.

Though, I believe that if one of Hikari\Spot are scum, the other is town. I don't see it being that blatantly...obvious.

Remember that we have two scumteams.

I'm not a big fan of how Hiraki didn't want people to explain everything. Ok, first I'd like to point out that he said people giving their reasoning would be bad because that would let maf know who to kill. This sent all sorts of red-flags up to me. First off, maf doesn't need any information, as they are the uninformed majority. But, he fails to acknowledge the fact that town in fact, needs this information quite badly. Not giving your reasoning for your actions is one of the most anti-town things one can do.

Is there an echo in here?

[LadyHaHa]

Ugh, Hiraki, you have played other games on site before? You do realize that explaining your vote is pretty much required in every game? You act like you want us all to vote for someone because YOU have a hunch that they are scum. And then when we politely say "No, reasons please" You freak out.

You seem to be in a hurry to end D1 as well. Which I find quite amusing considering we are on page 5.

This wall had better be pretty damn impressive if you actually want Robo 'quick lynched'. I'd be pretty surprised if you have that much of a case on him this early in the game.

VOTE: Unvote
VOTE: Hiraki

[projectmatt]

Dislike the Hikari bandwagon. I mean, the rage was a little un-needed but I'll at least let him give this wall that he promises before I make any snap judgment.

Robo ISN'T obvious scum, he's just scummy and the best lead I have at the moment. I really want to know what Hikari apparently has seen.

[Robocopter87]

Robo. You said you were legally obliged to play to your win condition, thus

forcing

you to say no. The only time your win condition

forces

you to say no is when you're scum. QED you're scum. It's really not that hard to understand.

More to the point, again I ask,

how does any of this make me a hypocrite

. Tid was at a toss-up between two players, and figured he'd sit back and wait before picking one to vote. That's why I called him a bet-hedger. Meanwhile, I noticed you did something that's rather scummy, pushed you on it, and you collapsed into a heap of wailing, flailing, obvscum.

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT HYPOCRITICAL

WAIT. You are saying that the only time I'm forced to say I am town is when I am scum? Thats wrong. Yes, Scum are forced to say it. But Town aren't forced to say they are town. What did you think I was going to say? That I am Scum? Does that make me town? Saying I'm scum? So if I'm town I have to say I'm scum. And If I'm scum, I have to say I'm town. Is that what you are saying? Did you expect me to call myself scum?

IT MAKES YOU A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE YOU CALLED SOMEBODY OUT FOR LACK OF REASONING YET YOU POSTED NO REASONING WITH YOUR VOTE. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS? I POSTED THIS IN CAPS SO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY READ IT. Cuz you apperantly fail to read anything I type.

Wailing, flailing, obvscum? Where? Show me! Show me! Quotes, explanations, tells, argument, scumbuddies. Go.

[Robocopter87]

Fuck it.

I'm motivated. You want content? Give me a few days. I'll require a quicklynch after I'm done with Robo.

Fucking using semantics in a fucking post fucking pisses me off.

Fucking.

@KCDA: I see what you mean, but I haven't had anything that I've needed to say yet.

With this, I'm going to have to say everything because I'm putting all my cards on the table to get Roboscum out.

Get ready for this fucking wall.

And before anyone posts a fucking image.

Yes. I am mad.

Take a walk. Calm down. Come back. Don't rage in a game. It doesn't help you or your team if you just get yourself lynched because you got angry. Just settle down before you type.

Though I too am becoming increasingly angry at this game already.

People keep thinking that my posts are "forced" and "panicky". What they don't understand is that I am on the edge of doing what Hiraki just did. But I have a little more self control I guess. Its not Panic. Its shaking with anger, steam coming out of ears kinda thing. Talking through gritted teeth. Thats what its like.

Dislike the Hikari bandwagon. I mean, the rage was a little un-needed but I'll at least let him give this wall that he promises before I make any snap judgment.

Robo ISN'T obvious scum, he's just scummy and the best lead I have at the moment. I really want to know what Hikari apparently has seen.

How am I scummy? What don't you people understand about the word,

Explanations

? Really, what don't you understand?

[Nikanor]

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT HYPOCRITICAL

(Sorry, just wanted an excuse to post that. )

Unvote. Vote: Robocopter87.

He's not trying to scumhunt. He is attacking silavor and calling him a hypocrite, yet his vote is parked on 'not voting'.

[Nikanor]

omg I haven't failed at tags in foreverrrrr.

@Cirno: Can you fix my quote tags in the above post please and thanks?

[Robocopter87]

Thats right. I haven't voted yet. I'm focused on silavor. silavor is not the only one here. I'm not gong to just ignore everybody else. I need a good look at things before voting.

But you are right, I haven't done anything but defend since we started. When I was accused in RVS. If I ignore it, people will say I'm deflecting. If I defend against it, people will say I haven't scumhunted. I'm just set up for failure here.

But at least I can say I defended.

[Nikanor]

I'm not gong to just ignore everybody else. I need a good look at things before voting.

Who else are you considering voting?

[Kcdaspot]

....

UNVOTE:
matt's stupidity vs. robo taunting.
....yeeeeeeaaaah
VOTE: robo

also L-2.

[Hiraki]

The wall will be up Friday.

I really don't think it's necessary at this point though.

Btw. I can't put it up tomorrow because I have a recital, and I don't feel like doing it today.

So I won't.

[Toro]

Holy shit, it's been 118 posts, how big of a wall is it?

[Hiraki]

You'll see.

I have to make it pretty to convince the scum to buss of course.

[Toro]

(After giving the game a much needed read-through)

Unvote

Vote: Hiraki

Why are you delaying your wall? Unless this thing will be a wall that will put future walls to shame I don't quite see the reason why you're delaying it. And why are you trying to rush? So far I have not seen anything particularily scummy from Robo except the fact that he seems tunneled on silavor. Other then that I see no other reasons why you should be asking everybody to vote Robo to finish the day off.

Something else I've noticed, matt, why haven't you posted the answers to the questions you posed to everyone back on Page 1? In particular I want to know how long you've been playing mafia for.

[Cirno]

Official Vote Count as of post #120

Robocopter87 (5)-Hiraki projectmatt silavor Nikanor Kcdaspot
Tid (1)- Amor
YoYoGuy435 (1)-Alduskkel
Hiraki (3)- YoYoGuy435 LadyHaHa Toro

Not Voting(2) - Tid Robocopter87

The deadline for Day 1 is Sunday, June 5, 2011 at 3:27:43 PM CDT.
If no player is lynched by that time, a no lynch will occur.

With

12

players alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

[Hiraki]

No, it's because I don't have time. Your piss poor pressure vote is piss poor.

[Nikanor]

lol

Can we lynch Toro after we're done with Robochoppah?

[Toro]

lol

Can we lynch Toro after we're done with Robochoppah?

Seriously?