Open 321: Kc's FIRE and ICE: Game over.

[Krazy]

That still doesn't change how he could've interpreted the events to his pleasing, and could've put me at L-1 instead of starting a new wagon on his "partner" - of all people! Without any previous opinion of Reab from pre-D4 I really don't see him turning around to get his partner lynched. And I really don't see how you do.

You're saying he should have been pointless opportunistic, but the thing is, when Cirno 'started that wagon' it wasn't going to go anywhere, it was more distancing. It only BECAME a wagon WEEKS after Cirno started it, when Reab started unvoting and doing ridiculous things that made no sense. When Cirno started it, it was a way to safely distance, and when it later became a real wagon, it would have been extremely suspicious for him to get off it.

[killerjester]

The possibility of wagons catching on is the primary reason why scum don't start wagons on buddies.

And 9 days is just over one week. So don't go CAPS LOCK on WEEKS like it's multiple weeks. Especially when 7 of those 9 days were night time.

[Krazy]

The possibility of wagons catching on is the primary reason why scum don't start wagons on buddies.

And 9 days is just over one week. So don't go CAPS LOCK on WEEKS like it's multiple weeks. Especially when 7 of those 9 days were night time.

But it didn't catch on. The wagon that formed on Reab had nothing to do with any of Cirno's reasons or anything to do with his pressure. He just happened to be already on it when Reab started doing things that the rest of the town actually found suspicious.

[Klazam]

Will post late tonight.

[killerjester]

I still I wouldn't've expected scum to bus yesterday unless their partner was as-good-as-dead. Only VE and Klazam fit that bill.

[Cirno]

This is ridiculous. Guys, I'm TOWN, so all this arguing is a waste of time. Can't you see that? This is EXACTLY what they want!

You are all now realizing that you have let scum as terrible as this make it all the way to Day 5. Not even victory will redeem this shame.

I do agree that arguing is a waste of time though. Especially since it is only scum doing the arguing. The last couple pages are pretty much kj and ve gangbanging krazy while all the townies carefully study the action and hope for some kind of revelation. If you aren't going to participate in the speculation and wifom, then just cast your vote and stop dragging the day on.

Also,
@Krazy, KJ: 1,2
Do you understand now why you should check meta before arguing over what a given player would or would not do?

[Krazy]

Are you Gayle?

[Cirno]

Yes.

[killerjester]

Yea this situation is completely different. There are two scum teams so balance of power comes into play.

And I'm not getting why you're posting your scum meta. Are you admitting to being Reab's fire scumbuddy?

[Krazy]

And I'm not getting why you're posting your scum meta. Are you admitting to being Reab's fire scumbuddy?

[Cirno]

No, just pointing out that you guys are more concerned with arguing over what I would do than actually finding out by checking my meta. btw, the there were indeed two opposing scum teams in that last game.

Also, I won't ever claim scum, even if the situation merits it. I'm not Kcdaspot.

[killerjester]

I think you're missing the point.

KJ: "Cirno isn't fire scum because I don't think he'd bus his buddy."
Cirno: "Nah, I'd totally do that. I can still be Reab's buddy."

If you aren't outright claiming fire scum then I can only see your motivation coming from an ice scum who subtly hopes this will add to the evidence of Why-you-guys-shouldn't-listen-to-KJ-by-lynching-me. I mean, I'm sure we've all had to provide examples of our scum meta before. But you did it unprovoked.

[Cirno]

I don't think I'm missing the point. You asked why I did something, and I gave you an answer. If you want to provide your own answer for the question that is fine, but don't pretend that I am somehow twisting the question.

[Cirno]

Also, I really should get back to my homework. I'll still check the thread, but my replies won't come as frequently.

[killerjester]

Cirno, why do you think Krazy is the fire scum?

[Klazam]

I'm pretty much ready to vote Krazy, but i want to hear cirno's answer about why she thinks krazy is fire.

[Kcdaspot]

I love the activity of this game.

[VisceraEyes]

Krazy is scum. Everyone should vote for Krazy to die because he's Ice Mafia and he's gotta DIE!!!!

[Krazy]

Krazy is scum. Everyone should vote for Krazy to die because he's Ice Mafia and he's gotta DIE!!!!

Does him voting me to death make me his scum-buddy, KJ? After all, he could just as easily be voting Cirno, but let's face it, given the choices between someone who is his partner and someone who isn't his partner, he's definitely gonna be voting the person who is his partner... right?

(for those of you who can't keep up with the frenetic pace of my sarcasm: VE is scum and he wasn't partners with Reab. Do the math)

[VisceraEyes]

VE is town, and is being set up by Ice-scum to secure a victory THIS DAY. Don't listen to his LIES!!

[Cirno]

Cirno, why do you think Krazy is the fire scum?

Just going by what I saw when I checked in. Three people are scum. VE, Krazy, KJ. Two of these people voted for me together. The same two people voted for Krazy together. And they've been double-teaming Krazy for awhile now.

Also, I feel like it would be a waste of time to do too much analysis in this game, but a quick look at the lynches...

Whiskers - 7 - CSL, Klazam, smargaret, Empking,

cavjj

, Krazy, Reab - (L-0)
CSL - 6 -

ViscaraEyes

, Reab, Toon Fighter,

killerjester

, smargaret, David Xanthos - (L-0)
Toon Fighter - 5 -

killerjester

, Reab,

ViscaraEyes

, David Xanthos, Klazam - (L-0)
Reab - 4 - Cirno,

killerjester

,

ViscaraEyes

, Klazam

...shows that VE and KJ have stacked on every lynch since KJ entered the game (and KJ's slot has been on EVERY lynch). That, along with Reab's presence on every wagon, helps explain the stupidly quick speed of the lynches.

[VisceraEyes]

That's....actually not a lie.

BUT IT'S MISLEADING!!!

[Cirno]

>VE is town, and is being set up by Ice-scum to secure a victory THIS DAY.
>Don't listen to his LIES!!

Come on now, VE, not even you believe anyone would ever sincerely write "Don't listen to his LIES!!" (complete with caps and a double dose of exclamation marks) in a mafia game. You're just being smug now.

[VisceraEyes]

I'm not allowed to add a little dramatics to an already dramatic situation?

It's obvious Krazy is attempting to manipulate the facts to suit his conclusion. I'm making light of that obviousness. Give me a break bro.

[David Xanatos]

Define "break"