You're scum because of an opportunistic jump on Reinoe with no progression in your read
You argue that it was opportunistic, I say it wasn't, I say it would be too obvious as scum, you say WIFOM.
This is how the whole Day has gone down so far:
1) Reineo self votes
2) I vote Reineo and give a reason
3) Reineo unvotes and votes me for being opportunistic scum
4) I get two more votes on me while I try to explain why I voted
5) Reineo continues to insult and frankly draw terrible conclusions no matter what alignment he is. I'm ignoring him for that. He's a distraction.
When has there been any time for me to further my read? My vote on Reineo is still because of the self vote and his idiocy. I got attacked for my read. I have to defend myself. How exactly do I make more of a case on him when I'm being attacked? I already stated my case.
you originally said he would never do something like self voting as town,
Correct and I still stand by that. Self voting even in RVS is stupid. He hammered himself in LoTR but the self voting at the beginning during RVS is what I'm talking about. It doesn't draw in scum unless theyve never played a game before int their life.
I showed he has,
What? Please show me where he selfvoted during RVS as town. I seem to have missed that. If you're referring to anything else then that means nothing because you didn't prove anything.
you then say he wouldn't do it at the start of the game,
Correct. It sounds like you're saying my argument has changed. It hasn't, I still agree with what I said.
that is disputed,
Sure, you say he would, I say he wouldn't, yet what makes you right and me wrong? Of course I have the ability to be wrong but I'm not voting you for simply disagreeing with how another player plays. From playing with Reineo, this is the conclusion I've drawn. From playing with Reineo, you drew your own conclusion. Agree to disagree yeah? But instead you voted me because I didn't have the same conclusion? Am I not simply allowed to be wrong? Are you not allowed to wrong?
you then compare two entirely different situations and say he is scum for reacting differently
Different situation, yet the result was that he obtained votes upon himself. He's a frustrated little manchild when he gets called scum as town. He selfvotes and gets up to three votes and is totally calm and votes one of the people that voted him. Why didn't he vote bjc? Because I was the third person to vote him? If I had been online before bjc I wouldve still voted him. But would that have been opportunistic? If sp, why no vote on bjc?
I point out they're different situations so your point is irrelevant
The end result is the same. I'm willing to let this point go because I can see where you're coming from and how it isn't the best argument, but I still stand by it for one of my reasons for him being scum.
The wagon then shifts to you
Oh so there was a wagon? You keep flip flopping on whether there was or wasn't a wagon. It doesn't matter but you keep confusing your points because earlier you argued that there wasn't a wagon. Just saying. Pick one and keep it.
and you say "I always get lynched as town for some reason I cant comprehend. I never have as scum."
Yes I did. I just want to take each piece as small as I can to fully understand everything.
implying you wouldn't get caught as scum like this,
No. Lol. Do no imply that for me. I'm saying that if this lynch goes through, I'm getting mislynched AGAIN. That is what I stated. I said red is my favorite color yet also like green and you're saying I said green is my favorite color while completely ignoring what I said. No. Read what I said and stop tunneling. You see what you want to see. My words mean exactly what they say nothing more.
not only is that irrelevant and not a reason for anyone to hop off
I find it very relevant because I apparently am super scummy to everyone as town and I cannot figure out why. I'm countering every point you have against me, yet I will still be scummy. As scum I don't really even get suspected. This is why I'm dumbfounded. I don't see a difference in how I play but there must be one otherwise this wouldn't always happen. And I never said it was a reason for anyone to hop off. Nor did I imply it. So don't even try.
I point out it was disingenuous
Okay. You did. But it wasn't because I'm still dumbfounded. Hi there.
so you are now misrepresenting the situation in that game.
Er. Could you explain what I'm misrepresenting? I don't do that unless I'm scum so I'd like to clear that up. Any misrepresentation is unintended.
The wagon and dayvig on you were not RVS
It was page two and I had made like five posts. Yes it was. But if you don't agree fine. Drop it.
we were playing Greater Idea and and you said in your second post that we the discards were meaningless,
And your point? I stand by what I said that scum can toss away good roles to seem town. Everyone seemed to be under the impression that they would never do that. I asked for everyone to explain but no one did. Even if I was town I would've still made that argument. Excuuuuse me for never playing Greater Idea Mafia before and knowing how important the role throwaways were, it wasn't exactly explain in a pamphlet. Why are you bringing this up anyways?
they were completely serious.
Ah I see. "They". So you mean you, scum, and one other person? Yeah, I got dayvigged before anyone could explain why the roles were important given my argument that they weren't. Not much I can do there.
In post 104, snscompt1 wrote:They were pushing for a wagon on me like you were. For an easy mislynch, but they didnt know I was a third party.
I was town in that game so this makes no sense and I'm pretty sure you're just flailing at this point
Nope nope. Misunderstanding. Two new sentences. You were pushing for a wagon just like they were. They were pushing for a mislynch. In the second sentence I never said you nor did I IMPLY you. Saying you were pushing a mislynch when you were town is silly in general. I hope that clears that bit up.
Some of the questions are rhetorical but if you feel the need to answer them, go ahead. I'm exhausted defending myself. You guys drain me. If that doesn't clear anything up and show my thought process, then just lynch me, there's nothing more I can argue.
