ASP is number one suspect for the following reasons:
- 11 was forced and OTT, clearly intended to give the impression he was being "friendly, helpful and open".
- In the same post, there is a logical disconnect. He calls out ika for naked voting but then RVS votes Fromage. It doesn't make sense and looks like busy-words.
- He defends Kyndy from BMR, disagrees with BMR, but then buddies the shit out of him in 15, and again post-hammer in 35. It reeks of "trying not to make waves".
- Speaking of his reaction to the hammer, it was really fake. Feigned surprise and then immediately followed it up with buddying of BMR - he is clearly intimidated by the alt's actual join date - and immediately lining up his next lynch in ika (which is dumb, considering he claimed the friendly neighbor and is the most likely candidate for the N1 kill).
I'm not going to comment on Kyndy's posts as it's moot at this point. However, I think BMR's reaction to them was pretty damn towny. It was clear to me that he was really trying to figure out how genuine they were and truly considered the WIFOMy statement a scum-tactic. I disagreed with him at the time, but felt it was more likely to come from town than scum.
Ika stupidly claimed without prompting, completely nullifying the benefit of even having a neighbor and giving mafia the exact setup, whereas we are limited to guessing between setup B and setup C. The claim was one of the worst possible ways to play that. Nevermind the hammer. Really rather disappointing when a PR falls into the hands of someone so unwilling to even try to help his team win.
(ugh this is a wall again...)
From my top town reads in BMR, Kyndy and now ika, comes Fromage. His reaction to the hammer seemed genuine and towny. If ASP flips scum, there is also the direct inquiry he made to him earlier that I don't feel would likely come from a partner.
Then texcat, who I was considering as a PoE/lurker partner, but his post about Fromage showed multiple levels of logic that really showed he was thinking about motivations. He saw Fromage's argument and felt that it was "stolen" from BMR. This thought actually occurred to him, and I don’t think it would have had he been simply looking for an easy opportunity vote.
The remaining players fall into the null category - sthar9, pistachi0n, YGS.
Last thing I wanted to talk about was the wagon on Kyndy. I truly believe that there is at least one mafia on this wagon.
In [post=37]post 37[/post], MODPERSON wrote: kyndy101 [5][LYNCHED] pistachi0n, BlueMoonRising, You Got Schooled, Fromage, ika
- Pistachi0n is an unknown and therefore falls into the pool of possible partners. However, his position on the wagon (first) makes me more inclined to think it is someone later in the wagon.
- BMR is a strong townread of mine and had good reasoning to vote Kyndy. I feel like he really believed what he was pushing.
- YGS is another unknown and thus, he also falls into the pool.
- Fromage is a slight townread, but his position here, the nature of his vote, and texcat's point about the case as well give me good reason to move him into null region, and throw him into the pool.
- Ika we know claimed neighbor and was not cc'd (though the mod closed the topic quickly, this is not a mafia claim). He is likely the N1 kill.
In order then, of likelihood: YGS, Fromage, pistachi0n. From a strictly VCA point of view, Fromage looks worse than my read. I would like him sorted.
But at the moment, we need to lynch ASP right the hell now.
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Day 2:
Ok. Ika is less of an idiot. Good job. Which means the mafia believed the existence of the neighbor. Which really tells me nothing since mafia with two goons could be A or C.
Actually... I believe we are under scenario A. 1) Because there was no counter claim, and no sudden scumreads on ika, other than ASP, who is already probably scum anyway, and 2) because there was no claim about a solid town read on D2. This tells me there is no neighbor. Which means we only have the JK. Goddammit.
Getting rid of one scum will increase the JK's usefulness like 10-fold though. So lynch the fuck out of ASP goddammit. Pretty sure the partner is pisatchi0n.
Could be Fromage too. His defense of ASP is odd.
And then there's this:
JK crumb? So late in the game?
More defending of ASP from pistachi0n in 112... is his read that strong or is he protecting him? Actively dismissing cases against him? Interaction between the two is very, VERY minimal. Unless.... oh nevermind that doesn't work.
In post 118, texcat wrote:When I first read 44 and 49, I had a strong gut reaction that ASP was scum. I thought everyone else would have the same reaction.
This is another reason why texcat is town.
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In post 143, A Simple Plan wrote:Was hoping to avoid having to fully counterclaim, but I'm JailKeeper.
In post 65, A Simple Plan wrote:I'm defending Fromage because he's an obvious target. It would be VERY easy for scum to frame him because of the L1 vote on Kyndy. It was clear that the D2 target would be either The L1 or the hammer on the quicklynch, and with Ika hinting PR, not only would that be a motivation not to lynch him, but with him gone, it makes it very easy for scum to target Fromage. I am interested in getting more out of Fromage before I am willing to think he is scum than just one bonehead vote.
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I am JK = Jailkeeper
In post 88, A Simple Plan wrote:So basically what you're saying is, that since both BMR and I are at L2, nobody should declare a vote for either of us despite our reads because someone could quick hammer? I think BMR looks incredibly scummy, and I would put him at L1, except according to you that's scum move number one, and
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eeping my eye on you because to me that's just poor logic.
Again, I'm JK.
Since this looks like a lynch, I want to publicly declare,
I AM TARGETING TEXCAT TONIGHT
. If I die tonight, Texcat isn't scum.
Reads:
Pistachi0n - conftown.
Fromage - reasonably strong town.
YGS - null/leaning town
Sthar - leaning town with his intent to hammer
Texcat - strong scum
WHAT A TURN OF EVENTS. MY READS ARE SHIT.
Pistachi0n is the friendly neighbor who visited ASP N1. Ok. Who did he target N1 though... BMR claimed his target and ASP didn't.. unless I missed it.
Whatever. I stink.
It's a bit embarassing that I made more posts in the scum thread than in the game. But we won and that counts. 
though, in my defense, PRs often come across scummy because they are hiding something. but anyway. I was wrong about ASP.