Open 601: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Persivul]

Opening the scum thread is fine by me. Although I was alone for much of it I continued to make detailed posts, both to organize my thoughts and for others to read afterward. Some might find it interesting.

[Not_Mafia]

Yay Persivul.

Thanks for Netherspite, you were excellent

[Not_Mafia]

Releasing scum thread is fine

[lalaladucks]

thanks for modding, Nether!

you were really great, i didn't know it was your first time either

town why :<

gg scum Pers did well

[Persivul]

FWIW I think the key to the win was the D1 lynch of Fromage. I thought he was completely obvtown. When I saw the wagon building the vote deal seemed like a safe way to join on. As town I wouldn't have. I went apeshit when yhai hammered. Kudos to yhai for naming 2 of 3 scum in that last post. But, the Fromage lynch and the mathdino NK got rid of the last 2 real cops, and just as importantly the conftowns they would have produced. Having the lynch pool limited by the conftowns made things difficult. OTOH, that may have helped me escape notice for not taking a NK myself. There were always higher-value targets.

[lalaladucks]

omg i could not believe fromey was lynched d1

[Persivul]

Me neither. Again, I thought he was completely obvtown.

[Aneninen]

GG Everyone!

Sorry for replacing out. ^_^

[MarioManiac4]

..whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
persivul you slimy fuck ;(
Guess I still have zero wins then

[wgeurts]

As I've said, I regret nothing. My gut did start pondering the possibly that persivul could be scum however I decided that if he was I didn't care and he deserved this win. My fromage push was my largest mistake, it shows once more faulty reasoning is not always scummy. I apologise for that fromage, you played well and I should have listened to the doubt in the back of my head.
Mathdino and insanity both played very well, leading to their deaths for them being so obviously town.

Now, a serious question persivul.
Why didn't you kill pistachion to make this the hardest lylo ever?
I'd then have to choose between two cops.

[wgeurts]

It would have been harder to win, but it would have been funny.

[Netherspite]

Now, a serious question persivul.
Why didn't you kill pistachion to make this the hardest lylo ever?
I'd then have to choose between two cops.

Because he played for his wincon and went for an easy win?

[wgeurts]

I know, he was almost guaranteed victory anyway either way.

[kyndy101]

Wow! Pers good game! I can't believe you were scum!
I think I'll always town read you lol you just sound SO TOWNY

Any notes on how I could improve guys?

[Fromage]

Netherspite: Thanks for modding! I've nothing to critisize.

Well played, Persivul. In hindsight, it's obvious that you were determined to find a reason to vote me on day 1. However it didn't raise any red flags when you voted, unvoted and revoted me. It was also a smart move to lynch Titus on day 4.

Kyndy: You were again an easy mislynch for scum. I think it was antitown that you were so quick to vote NM and Jazzmyn on day 2 and 3. Insanity couldn't post because the days ended so quickly. I didn't really understand why you voted Titus and pistachi0n. Others proposed to lynch them. You agreed with them. It looked like your priority was to survive instead of finding the scum.

Concerning our claiming strategy: I think both strategies are good if they are applied individually. However I think it was a mistake to combine them. It made it possible for scum to shoot Mathdino without any risks although he was obvtown.

[insanity018]

Firstly, congrats to Persival! You played strongly from start to finish and definitely deserved to pull off a win.

I am kinda disappointed with how the rest of the days went though. While getting those 2 guilties on Night 1 were (obviously) great, in a way they still hurt town by encouraging a quick lynch and effectively stifled discussion - a pattern that continued because town got confident and continued to quicklynch without much reevalaution. I never got to post on Day 2 and though miih was confirmed town by this point, she was unable to post on Day 4. I (with a bit of hindsight bias ) would have liked to have continued questioning Persivul about the way he suddenly flipped on Fromage and yet didn't believe in a Fromage/wgeurts team.

That said, gg everyone and thanks to Netherspite for modding! I don't think that there were any issues with the modding quality at all.

[Persivul]

Wow! Pers good game! I can't believe you were scum!
I think I'll always town read you lol you just sound SO TOWNY

Any notes on how I could improve guys?

Try being more decisive in your reads and actions. Every game we're in people are scum reading you for that and I'm defending you based on meta.

[Persivul]

Well played, Persivul. In hindsight, it's obvious that you were determined to find a reason to vote me on day 1.

Not really. I thought you were too town. The vote deal was something I could exploit.

[Persivul]

Firstly, congrats to Persival! You played strongly from start to finish and definitely deserved to pull off a win.

Thanks!

I am kinda disappointed with how the rest of the days went though. While getting those 2 guilties on Night 1 were (obviously) great, in a way they still hurt town by encouraging a quick lynch and effectively stifled discussion - a pattern that continued because town got confident and continued to quicklynch without much reevalaution.

Yep, that's it exactly. Everyone figured with only one scum left and lots of lynches that it was a done deal.

I never got to post on Day 2 and though miih was confirmed town by this point, she was unable to post on Day 4. I (with a bit of hindsight bias ) would have liked to have continued questioning Persivul about the way he suddenly flipped on Fromage and yet didn't believe in a Fromage/wgeurts team.

There's a reason I took you out as early as possible. I think you would have figured it out.

That said, gg everyone and thanks to Netherspite for modding! I don't think that there were any issues with the modding quality at all.

Yes, it was great modding. Some of my strategy involved timing and he was always there on time.

[Jazzmyn]

Yay! Very well done, indeed, Persivul!

I didn't get the chance to post nearly as much as I would have liked but I followed the game after I was lynched, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks to all of the players for a fun game, and many thanks to Netherspite for hosting; your moderating was excellent.

Oh, and I have no objection to the scum-chat thread being opened.

Best regards,
Jazz

[Netherspite]

I've edited game ending post and added a link to the mafia PT. Thanks to the mafia team for permitting that

Also thanks to everyone for the kind words about my modding, I'm really glad to hear that

Btw, I'm in the Mini Theme Queue, planning to run 13p Semi-Open Role Madness setup with bastard roles (those who played my games in Marathon have the idea of the setup and mechanics used).
If any1 would like to join just PM me for the pre-in. Example of the game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=62515

[kyndy101]

Wow! Pers good game! I can't believe you were scum!
I think I'll always town read you lol you just sound SO TOWNY

Any notes on how I could improve guys?

Try being more decisive in your reads and actions. Every game we're in people are scum reading you for that and I'm defending you based on meta.

The problem is my personality X| I hate falsely accusing people.

[LlamaFluff]

this is the end