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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:12 am

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In post 574, Malakittens wrote:Hey FB

gonna do anything?

:3

Of course I am.
First going to ISO you.
Then Kelbris.

Its one of you two.
Bullet has proved he is town, which I am kind of shocked at tbh.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:41 am

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Malakittens ISO:

Standard RVS
I don’t think Mala knows who I was here lol. Null
Yep, Confirmed Mala didn’t know. Null
Prod dodge.
What you talking about? Null
Huh? Null
Bitching about mod and not scum hunting. Scum Lean.
Prod Dodge
Prod Dodge
Yes, you do seem disinterested. This is first time you have a read all game.
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How is “First” a breadcrumb to role? Also the apathy is horrible in this post.
3 town reads here, no reasons stated. No strong stances on these tbh. Null to Scum
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Okay this post is great. I don’t know why Mala claimed, but goes into played the setup other times. I don’t see how “first” was a breadcrumb to this though. Townish?
Alright….
AtE here, I still don’t get your crumb.
Wait did we really have to roleplay to get VCs? LOL, I didn’t notice at all. The Apathy is hard to read either way.
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Why do you just unvote soren now? You read soren as town a dozen or so posts ago.
Weird posts are weird.
Talking about other games again, Null.
Votes Persivul with nothing to add to it. Unlikely bussing?
Null
How is this a town tell?
What? Cigs? Huh?
This post looks bad in retrospect.
Okay now I am leaning on mala being scum and buddying Kelbris. Why does this disappear later?
Hmm, not sure about this.
Yeah GALE!!! Let him answer.
I like Mala.
Bad vote.
Hints at Bullet
Hinting at me. Then later drops me. Would love some reasons.
So lynching my slot because I haven’t been active or something?
In retrospect why were you going here?
No reasons again.
Wait for it….
Welcome to the party Mala :P
Why is your ISO filled with stuff like this?
You have been saying Kelbris is town for two days. How is he now pretty bad?
Meta tell, could be something could be easy excuse, not sure.
Good thing you claimed days ago, right?
Implying I am not going to?

Okay I am leaning towards Mala being scum, but I kind of want her to answer some questions I had during my ISO of her.'
Problem with Mala is most of her posts are null and you can't read anything from it. She gets better towards the end, but beginning not so much content.

I have yet to do ISO of Kelbris but will do ISO of him soon.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:30 pm

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I highly doubt that Mala is scum, like I said earlier scum would have no reason to want to bus day 1. ESPECIALLY since they know there is a chance that the Jailkeeper would be NKed or lynched, meaning it would be a waste to bus day 1 (speaking from past games, have NEVER from my memory seen scum bus day 1).
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:37 pm

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I'll wait for Firebringer to post his ISO on kelbris
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:40 am

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Based on this game I'm reconsidering my read on Mala.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:43 am

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Can't get to game right now will try to post ISO tonight
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:01 am

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What about that game makes you change your mala read? Mala was not in the game that the link took me to.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:02 am

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In post 579, BNL wrote:Based on this game I'm reconsidering my read on Mala.


I wasn't in that game....?
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:19 pm

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1. Titus (scum) was townreading LQ for "playing very differently from his town game", and Mala also used a similar reason to townread Soren.

2. I townread Mala for her Soren unvote, I also townread Posite for her Pie unvote. (both were from RVS) Postie turned out to be scum, however.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:14 pm

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In post 583, BNL wrote:1. Titus (scum) was townreading LQ for "playing very differently from his town game", and Mala also used a similar reason to townread Soren.

2. I townread Mala for her Soren unvote, I also townread Posite for her Pie unvote. (both were from RVS) Postie turned out to be scum, however.

I am not following this logic at all....
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:23 pm

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In post 583, BNL wrote:1. Titus (scum) was townreading LQ for "playing very differently from his town game", and Mala also used a similar reason to townread Soren.

2. I townread Mala for her Soren unvote, I also townread Posite for her Pie unvote. (both were from RVS) Postie turned out to be scum, however.


Titus and I might be close, but our games as both alignment varies a lot. I kinda tend to read players better after hydra'ing. IDK if that makes sense, but I saw Soren's scum-game first hand and it's different than here. In the scum-game he felt a lot more logical and a bit more engaged with the thread and here he didn;t have a forced feeling to his play as I was seeing there. It was more relaxed etc.

The sad part is your town, but the fact you're getting paranoid on me is kinda BS. Sorry, but if you vote me and I get hammered over Kelbris who had the most shitty hammer ever. I also want you to take a look at FB and his slot because that slot has also been not-so great either.

Granted I am aware I was a lurksack, but this just me being a lurksack. I play differently and what not and I hate being a VT because it just sucks so my play is terrible when I'm not a PR of some sort =\
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:27 pm

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In post 583, BNL wrote:1. Titus (scum) was townreading LQ for "playing very differently from his town game", and Mala also used a similar reason to townread Soren.

:facepalm:

How did I mess that up? I mean LQ was playing very differently from his scum game.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:25 pm

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In post 559, Jackal711 wrote:Official VC

BulletNLynchproof (0) -
kelbris (0) -
Independent Synergy
Firebringer (2) - Malakittens, kelbris
Malakittens (0) -

Not Voting: BulletNLynchproof,
Independent Synergy
Firebringer

With 4 alive, it's 3 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-01-10 20:15:00)

Happy New Year, everyone.


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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:30 am

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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:32 am

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OK, Malakittens may be town as her play was *extremely* asynchronous with lane's and Persivul's play. They didn't even try pushing Soren while Mala voteparked there.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:08 pm

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I made a list of where we all stood during the various VCs throughout the game and my reads on each one. The first name is the player, second is where they had their vote. These VCs do not include the start of day ones where everyone is not voting.
VC 1
me: Willowmeadow
Mala: Soren
BNL: me
IS: lane0168
RVS phase, nothing much to say about these votes

VC2
IS: same as VC 1
me: Not_Mafia
BNL: Malakittens
Mala: Soren
IS sticks to his lane0168 vote, we were all voting for different people

VC3
Mala: same as VC2
me, IS and BNL: Mala
mala was only 2 votes away from being lynched, this is where she claimed VT, Albert and AI were also on the mala wagon and both were town

VC4 (end of day 1)
IS: lane0168
me, BNL and mala: persivul
Persivul made a post saying he was tired of how Mala was "lurking" at the time, this was because Mala was not invested in the game because of the "RP for VC" rule, which is why some of my posts seemed like they were done by a wizard or medieval individual. (Backup jailkeeper lynched, end of D1)

VC4
Mala and BNL: AlwaysInnocent
me: Albert
IS: not voting (as of this VC, AI was lynched and was VT)
nothing really telling here, sure Mala and BNL were on the AI wagon but they were just scumhunting as normal. Meanwhile I was sure Albert was scum because of his day 1 play and IS sat back and watched the whole thing go on.

VC5
mala: BNL
BNL, IS and myself: Soren (town vigilante got lynched, my stupid hammer based on Gale's read)
going over the posts from day 3 prior to my lynch of Soren, BNL said Soren was scum because he lynched AI on day 2, IS voted for Soren because "Wow, this game is in the bag.

Do I even need to catch up to the stuff I have been missing?
Looks like Soren is last scum.

Looking at his ISO its pretty null, and judging from everyone else and Gale analysis. Easy choice" and I voted for Soren because of Gale's readings and the fact that Soren seemed to be grasping at straws (to me before I realized all too late what Soren was referring to by IS's "scumslip" in the above message, that and Gale's reading.

VC6
mala and myself: IS
BNL and IS (now firebringer): not voting
the current VC. Not much to go on here.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:49 pm

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Well, on day 1 IS voteparked on lane0168 (for the whole day). I know I read him as town before, but what Soren said in response to my lnyching of him made me re-consider that. He is right when he said "what kind of town player does not read over the game." At the time I thought it was his "I am sure my PARTNER would agree" that Soren was referring to (2 scum left at that point), I realized only too late (after he revealed what he meant) that he was right. What kind of town player WOULD forgo reading through the game? A cocky one? Or SCUM.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:51 am

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Looking at the other teams, both kelbris and IS seem plausible as the last scum. I'm kinda leaning kelbris atm.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:21 am

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I am not done with Kelbris ISO but I doubt its him.

I still think its Malakittens.
Will finish Kelbris ISO todya.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:26 pm

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In post 236, lane0168 wrote:
In post 210, Persivul wrote:
In post 202, kelbris wrote:Just as a word of warning, we are 2 votes away from lynching malakittens, so the next 2 voters have to be REALLY sure they want to lynch mala.

Yeah, we've played the game before, a simple "FYI mala's at L-2" would have been fine. This feels like scum trying to look townie.


Yes, that's exactly how it feels

Lane sheeps his partner. Idk if this is more likely to be done against town or scum.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:20 pm

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I ask you this, if I were scum, WHY would they sheep against me. The scum knows what PR (if any) each Scum member has, meaning they would not want to see one of their own lynched day 1, as that would prevent the scum from using said ability or at the very least meaning they are one member down, which in a game with 3 kills per day (assuming all 3 kills work), means they have a 1/3 chance of one of them being killed, sheeping a scum as a fellow scum would only improve town's chances of winning by reducing the amount of correct kills they need to make.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:28 pm

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I think Mala is due for a prod by now mod.
And yeah, going to post this ISO tomorrow unfortunately. I am dead beat.

Also @Kelbris a soft bus probably.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:31 pm

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Firebringer, we have 2 days left to deadline. I need it ASAP.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:37 pm

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In post 597, BNL wrote:Firebringer, we have 2 days left to deadline. I need it ASAP.

Fine, Ill do it tonight. Give me a hour.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:21 pm

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Kelbris ISO


Standard RVs. NUll
Fixing Vote. Null
Clarifications on something. Its Null
He says he is eager with this post? Or just that eagerness is Null.
Fixing Vote
I don’t know what my head was going on about with you being agreeable.
Confirms I am hydra, hunting for info. Could be either really.
Role playing for VC. Town.
Role playing
The role playing is old. Votes Willow, on weird reasons, the RP makes it hard to understand.
These role playing posts are odd in retrospect. Scummish?
Yeah just going to say that reasons might have been town but 72 before was scum feel.
Lol I am hoping this isn’t your whole ISO. Its hard to read. Scum.
how would this reveal role pms? Your posts seem motivated on scum, but they do so in such a weird fashion it could easily be fake cloud cuckoo stuff. I might be lost in this rp shit though.
Asking IaI why he is voting him. Survivalist or just trying to get inside his mind. Ehh Townish?
It’s hard to read though Kelbris!
Town contribution by making a VC
Prod Dodge
Says my reads are good, but not specifics. Null-lean scum.
Yeah…thank god.
Good reads list. He says Pers is town and Lane is Null. Hmm weird for his later vote. Scummish
Warns everyone about L-2. Town.
This interaction with lane makes me think they are not aligned actually. Town.
This role hunting is bad in retrospect. If you think someone is a power role you should keep it to yourself. Scummish but probably from Town.
Votes mala for earlier posts. Seems like just jumping on bandwagon though. Null
Points out L-2. Null
Welcomes player. Null
Sees Pers as town and unvotes. Yeah, weird interactions with Pers.
says won’t vote Pers at all. After analyzing the wagons.
This vote is odd. Not going to lie, you were reading Pers as town all day, then you don’t here.
has ‘reason’ what? I don’t know what to think of this. Null
Comments Pers is at L-1. Town
This is so scummy it has to be from Town. Ultra Town
Yep. Town.
Null.
At this point I have come to the conclusion that Kelbris is town. I don’t know if any posts will change my mind.

Ending my ISO early. I have come to conclusion that, Kelbris is town. Theres just too many posts of him doing too much scummy shit that means he can’t possibly be scum.
I am now 99% it is Mala.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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