Open 621 (C9++): The ZAR SHOW S1 Holiday Special - OVER!

[Zar]

Granted I had misunderstood the SK, so I thought I had to assign it. That is why Llama is clarifying that the SK would have to choose.

[Zar]

To avoid confusion,

Here's Aneninen's PM confirming he chose BP, along with his Role PM.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Open 621 - Role PM!
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:39 am
From: Aneninen
To: Zar

Hi there,

confirming:
I'm the SK, choosing

1–Shot Bulletproof

.

Blessed Be!

Aneninen

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Open 621 - Role PM!
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:47 am
From: Zar
To: Aneninen

Serial Killer

Welcome, Aneninen. You are a

Serial Killer.

Abilities:

Pregame you must choose to be either Investigation Immune or 1-Shot Bulletproof.
Each night phase, you may select a player in the game to nightkill.

Win condition:

You win when you are the last player alive or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm you received your Role PM by replying to me with your Role and Alignment, and by typing /confirm in the game thread.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have never felt this hopeless in a LyLo situation, even in other slots I've replaced in that were already being scumread.
I don't think I'll ever replace into a slot like this again.

[Zar]

It's difficult to try to grasp the entirety of a game that's gone a couple of pages and that has a bunch of night actions for which town didn't have full information of.

[Aneninen]

Thanks for modding, Zar!

Good game, everyone!

So... basically I was insane lucky because Mafia shot ABR. I never thought he had targetted me. Despite everything, I'm content with my gameplay, since this has been my very first SK-game... Mafia was seriously out of luck, on the other hand.

RadiantCowbells, as I said, you don't have to blame yourself. You were in a terrible situation. Still, something has been paid back. ^_^

[Aneninen]

Reflecting to the flavor, trust me, my "rule" won't be that bad. Peace, happiness, tolerance and everything. Although, there is one thing...
...Prepare for an insanely huge pigeon statue set up at Town Square ^_^

By the way,

Zar

, the Dead PT is not available.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Thanks for modding, Zar!

Good game, everyone!

So... basically I was insane lucky because Mafia shot ABR. I never thought he had targetted me. Despite everything, I'm content with my gameplay, since this has been my very first SK-game... Mafia was seriously out of luck, on the other hand.

RadiantCowbells, as I said, you don't have to blame yourself. You were in a terrible situation. Still, something has been paid back. ^_^

Ha. I was right about you.

BTW. Why did you suggest that Lucky shot himself? Really, if there was any doubt about you being scum, then that would have removed all doubt. For some reason, people didn't see how suspicious that was.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I also loved how you acted like you had some great idea about Lucky's death, as if you made some great discovery even though you were the culprit.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Immense letdown. Roflcopter replacing out was really bad. The last day was awful. I caught Anenein Day 1. You guys need to step up.

[Zar]

DEAD PT LINK

Should work now.

[Zar]

scum can I get a heads up on releasing the scum pt?

[shaddowez]

I'm good with it.

Thanks for running the game Zar!

[texcat]

Yep. Thanks for modding! I think I like this setup. And the color was great!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Immense letdown. Roflcopter replacing out was really bad. The last day was awful. I caught Anenein Day 1. You guys need to step up.

ABR, you're the best.

I'm good with PT being released.

[RadiantCowbells]

Can't step it up when town is yelling at me over not understanding the intricacies of a 50 page game.

[Aneninen]

Interesting Dead PT indeed!

ABR

, I don't know what you saw in my game, but it's interesting, because... hardly had the Day started I simply forgot that I was the SK and started scumhunting as if I had been town. So it must have been something very early thing or something even I'm not aware of or coincidence. This, actually makes everything even more f-cked-up.
Also, I don't think I was a genius SK, I was very lucky at Night1 – I'm content only because this was my very first SK game. And I would feel the same if I had been caught. I have no idea what Rofl would have done, though. He never posted a real case against me.

AI and everyone

: it's interesting to see how obvious everything can be once you're out of the game. I remember having the same feeling before...
By the way, I got genuinely locked out of Day2.
From Day3, I simply exploited everything had happened, no matter had it been good or bad.
Rofl started to scumread me? Okay, I'm talking about the single thing that I can't be II.
Noone started the massclaim? Okay, I'm losing my nerves, launching it and accusing everyone for not doing the same.
Everyone is against Shadowez without voting for him? Okay, I'm starting the wagon and pushing it to lynch? If town, good. If scum, also good.
But yes, the biggest surprise was that the "Lucky shot himself" pigeon poop held water. There was hardly any speculation about the Nightkills, so why not jumping in front with something really confusing, based upon entirely false assumptions?
And the worst part is... I still don't know how an SK could be played well...

Yos

, sorry. I thought you'd been town-PR.

[Aneninen]

Lucky

, you shouldn't feel bad. Firstly, shyt happens. Secondly, you're still better Vig than I am. As Town-Killing-PR the only case when I did no harm to the town was the one when TexCat Roleblocked me. (So far I've Nightkilled a Cop-cleared townie, provoked my own lynch to wipe out a townie as Vengeful, Loverized myself with a townie before my own lynch... Frankly, I seriously think whenever I draw Town-Killing-PR, town should get a bonus PR as a compensation. ^_^ )

As for the SK-Pregame-Choice.

It seems I'm not the only one who thinks choosing Investigate Immune simply doesn't pay off in this Setup (and this goes for JK9+ too). The chance is very high that there's no Investigative PR out there at all, so what's the point?
Although, removing the choice would narrow the SK-gameplay possibilities. I guess, a BP-SK should try to look pro-town and play very active that's all... shouldn't they?

In the Setup I designed (Matrix–14), after its first and so far only try Vettrock (the Mod) and me agreed to change the SK-choice to this: before each Night they can choose between being BP or II. Maybe a similar choice with a modification – the SK is

still

1–Shot BP and doesn't get informed whether their ability is gone – could do the trick. Or maybe the same for Investigation? (The

first

Investigation results [Not Guilty] assuming the II has been chosen but all the others result [Guilty].)

Opinions?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Immense letdown. Roflcopter replacing out was really bad. The last day was awful. I caught Anenein Day 1. You guys need to step up.

ABR, you're the best.

I'm good with PT being released.

Aw thanks man.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can't step it up when town is yelling at me over not understanding the intricacies of a 50 page game.

You got lazy, and lost faith. I think you might have been able to turn it around if you put in more effort. What scares me is to

not do the work

and not get the intended result, if I

do the work

and don't get the result, that is infinitely better.

[Zar]

SCUM PT

[acryon]

Immense letdown. Roflcopter replacing out was really bad. The last day was awful. I caught Anenein Day 1. You guys need to step up.

It's tough because you're the one that caught Anen with the shot, but it's also your hyper-aggressive playstyle that led scum to kill you.

Good game everybody.

[Lucky2u]

thanks much for modding zar! appreciate it!

congrats to Anen, I think you did a good job and I never would have found you.

My biggest question is why I was killed when I had so much suspicion for being SK myself? Maybe this was answered somewhere but I thought I would make better mislynch than night kill.

[Lucky2u]

also sorry AI and Lowell.... I maybe should have shot elsewhere...

[shaddowez]

My biggest question is why I was killed when I had so much suspicion for being SK myself? Maybe this was answered somewhere but I thought I would make better mislynch than night kill.

Yeah, I answered in the Dead PT - basically I was stupid. I still wasn't sure there was an SK, and wanted to make sure I didn't get the vig NK (even though I had enough suspicion already and probably wouldn't have). I also realized after the fact you had enough suspicion that if you had already shot me it wouldn't matter, and if you didn't you probably would've been a lynch. Ah well.

[RadiantCowbells]

What faith do you expect me to have when both of the other players are just agreeing with each other that I need to be lynched over Roflcopter's play and the town is refusing to engage me over any content from the point of my replace into the game?

I cannot defend Roflcopter's actions.