Open 638: Friends and Enemies! (And Enemies!) - GAME OVER!

[Charloux]

@Karnos: I'll be honest here. If i was Ozy i would definitely lynch Charloux. I'd never guess you joined mafiascum at the same time i did. WP

[Charloux]

I hope you can explain from what angle you viewed this game later.

[Ozymandias]

Who?

[Ozymandias]

You are both scummy rn.

[Ozymandias]

Like, if I was scum, I would make a case on the other guy here, but neither of you is even doing that.

[Ozymandias]

I hated Karnos's first post today, if it wasn't for that, I would probably lynch you without regrets.

Ah, some discussion.

I always find myself second-guessing myself. As I said I was 99% sure you were a mason, but something rubbed me the wrong way about how we rushed through the previous day without even letting kop make a post. Could there be some crazy world where Ozy is actually the scum and the real mason was reluctant to come forward and cc? Didn't seem likely, but I wanted to see what Charloux posted before voting him. We have plenty of time, it doesn't hurt to use it.

Of course since then Charloux has come out posting and he is still claiming VT, I can confidently place a vote on him, since he himself has removed the one nagging doubt I had. There is no reason why mason charloux would still want to hide at this point.

VOTE: Charloux

To your questions, Ozy:

1. Why are you Town?

I'm always town, it seems. Luck of the draw, I guess? To your question in the other post: I have two completed games on the site, both as town, so no scum examples, sorry. I also have another ongoing game but I can't speak to that. In my first town game, I played against scum.ranger and we lost, badly. I'd hate to see this turn into a loss to scum.ranger's team.

2. Why is Charloux scum?

Process of elimination. Bad answer, I know, but it is what it is- all the scummier players have already been lynched. It kind of makes sense now though, now that I think about my first game. Ranger & snoe was the team, and while ranger was active and aggressive at "scumhunting" and such, snoe was largely passive and stay out of the major discussions or claims. I see charloux play in this game as not too far off from how snoe played, and I'm wondering if it's from ranger's coaching in scum chat in both cases.

3. Why did you spend half D1 rolefishing?

I thought KTS was playing scummy as hell. What player forgets his role? Then he claimed kop wasn't a mason. A minute later, he was claiming kop is a mason. The inconsistencies and backtracking made me think he was surely scum of some kind. I also figured, if the masons are already outed, then surely one would be willing to confirm KTS crazy story, just to get the scumhunting back on track, so when that never happened I just got more suspicious.

In retrospect, I realize it was a gambit to get nightkills on ranger instead of a mason, which is kind of a cool strategy, but I'm not sure I would ever try it. If he picked wrong and ranger was a VT, how would he look when ranger came out and said "i'm no mason, KTS is lying, lynch him!"?

Even now, I'm not sure I would play any different, because if it happened again it might just be scum KTS testing the strategy since it worked so well as an actual mason.

He could just fall back on us, and I am pretty sure most of the player list understood it was a gambit, anyway. There is literally no reason for all Masons to come out like this D1.

[Ozymandias]

Meh, I wish I was as confident in this as I was when Joe was hanged, but whatever.

If you are Town, sorry Charloux and sorry to the dead fellas ( especially Creature ).

If you are scum, you played well.

gg

VOTE: Charloux

[Ozymandias]

The end.

[Ozymandias]

Now I can go study for my exams, at least.

[Charloux]

Sorry, but we lost <3
GL on your exams

[Charloux]

But we had 7 players with 3 masons and we blew it. Just amazing

[Ozymandias]

Ikr.

[Ozymandias]

I would lynch again everyone we lynched, though, probably. No regrets, really.

[Charloux]

Yup. I play 90% for fun and this game was a blast!

[karnos]

Great game, I really enjoyed it. You played correctly based on what you knew, you just had to work with what you were given by the other players.

[Ozymandias]

Good job, Karnos.

[Ozymandias]

I bet dead chat ain't happy.

[Charloux]

How many NK's did you think ahead?

[karnos]

He could just fall back on us, and I am pretty sure most of the player list understood it was a gambit, anyway. There is literally no reason for all Masons to come out like this D1.

As a mason, you had the benefit of knowing that. As a VT (or scum), a player would be confused why KTS was claiming masons that obviously aren't masons and assume he is scum. At least I was.

[KuroiXHF]

Vote Count - Day Five - VC#3

karnos - 1 - Charloux
Ozymandias - 0 -

Charloux - 2 - Karnos, Ozymandias -

LYNCH

Not Voting:

“To be successful you need friends and to be very successful you need enemies.” ― Sidney Sheldon

Mod Notes:
- <3

The time for judgment is here and now.
They chose Charloux. He said, "Wow!"
He went down kicking and crying and screaming some more.
Along the way knocking down furniture and breaking doors.
They tied the knot and sent him without a whim.
The force so great, his throat shut down on him.
Did they lynch scum? Is town safe again?
They checked Charloux, the last of the village's lynched men.

Charloux was...

Spoiler: Town's fate rests here

TOWN!

Friends lose. Best friends lose. Other enemies (Werewolves) lose. The enemies (Mafia by Ranger and Karnos) win!

Thank you for playing, everyone! And congratulations to the winners!
All private topics will now be made public!

[Ozymandias]

gg

Thanks for hosting, Kuroi.

Sorry Town.

Congrats, Ranger and Karnos.

[karnos]

My biggest fear was that someone would realize why I was so suspicious of KTS claim: as ranger's scum partner, I knew immediately that ranger wasn't a mason.

My thinking was if KTS is scum pulling this sort of gambit, if I lead a lynch on him it'll reflect positively on me. And if he is a real mason doing something fishy, well then it's a net gain for scum to get a mason lynched.

[Ozymandias]

My biggest fear was that someone would realize why I was so suspicious of KTS claim: as ranger's scum partner, I knew immediately that ranger wasn't a mason.

My thinking was if KTS is scum pulling this sort of gambit, if I lead a lynch on him it'll reflect positively on me. And if he is a real mason doing something fishy, well then it's a net gain for scum to get a mason lynched.

Your progression of votes KTS>Ranger>Kop>KTS looked very natural, it's the main reason I thought you were Town from that point on, pretty much.

[KuroiXHF]

By the way, in my final write-up, when I say, "They tied the knot" I meant on the noose. I didn't mean they get married.

Unless your idea for getting married comes from Game of Thrones...

[Ozymandias]

Them spoilers.