Open 651: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[superbowl9]

1000 Pagetop! Can this count as 10 lillith?

Lycan, stop playing mafia, you don't even read the thread or what people post but then you come in swinging like you have all the best reads and know who is mafia. You're horrible.

Damn chill

[Raskolnikov]

i find it helps to get people to listen to you if you dont antagonise them

[ironstove]

People have to read what you wrote first to understand whether or not they're being antagonized.

[Raskolnikov]

@Ranger I did mean it when I said that logic was amazing though. As in, for a traitor when you see IC as a role I can 100% see how it could be a really good play and probably even optimal. It blew my mind, as someone who was originally going be traitor.

The problem was, even if you know that it's technically good play, how likely is it really that a traitor also comes up with it independently? If it was someone really into setup analysis stuff like you ranger I would maybe understand it but I would never in a million years think it's LIKELY from MOST players or vedith even if it is optimal. I mean consider how you came to that idea after seeing the claim, and imagine traitor individually planning all of that, it just sounds so incredibly unlikely.

[RadiantCowbells]

I thought Rask was town

[mhsmith0]

I thought Rask was town

You're improving, Rask!
(nice turnaround from when we were both bitching about how bad we were as scum in our newbie night chat )

[Lycanfire]

Where were you in mylo ironstove?

[ironstove]

Where were you in mylo ironstove?

english, do you speak it??

[Ranger]

Day 2 is the latest I can ever leave ranger alive

That long, huh? ;)

[Ranger]

The problem was, even if you know that it's technically good play, how likely is it really that a traitor also comes up with it independently? If it was someone really into setup analysis stuff like you ranger I would maybe understand it but I would never in a million years think it's LIKELY from MOST players or vedith even if it is optimal. I mean consider how you came to that idea after seeing the claim, and imagine traitor individually planning all of that, it just sounds so incredibly unlikely.

Combination of reasons. Basically, I actually

have

Vedith pegged as someone who would do setup analysis: someone whose play might be of questionable value, but knows the values and strengths of PRs. The proof was from Vedith himself, in fact; he went into meticulous detail about the strength of the Goon Cop (rather, his stance of a lack thereof), and that instantly set off the alarm bells. When combined with his "these players are NOT my scumbuddies" posting (which screamed traitor-signaling), along with the interactions between him and my other scumreads looking like both halves were scum but not scum in communication with one another, and the evidence was there.

It was wrong, but it was enough where I wanted to test Vedith. I was expecting a failure, and would have been pleasantly surprised at him passing, which would've caused a recalibration especially upon witnessing how others treated his claim of being roleblocked. (I imagine that at least one of {you, Sir Bastion} would have tried devouring him, possibly with the other defending him.) He wasn't supposed to fail the test while being town.

[lilith2013]

mafia PT

Ranger/KTS hydra PT

[Raskolnikov]

I thought Rask was town

You're improving, Rask!
(nice turnaround from when we were both bitching about how bad we were as scum in our newbie night chat )

Thanks! Tbh this is 90% town imploding, I just played lurksac and prodged countlessly with a shallow poe stance so it feels weird to hear this

Now, regardless of kyndy's alignment, kyndy will not perform the kill.

I think highhopes uses WIFOM and roleblocks either me or you.

Maybe using kyndy to get the kill is worth it?

WE DID IT BASTION! wifom'd the wifom

Combination of reasons. Basically, I actually

have

Vedith pegged as someone who would do setup analysis: someone whose play might be of questionable value, but knows the values and strengths of PRs. The proof was from Vedith himself, in fact; he went into meticulous detail about the strength of the Goon Cop (rather, his stance of a lack thereof), and that instantly set off the alarm bells. When combined with his "these players are NOT my scumbuddies" posting (which screamed traitor-signaling), along with the interactions between him and my other scumreads looking like both halves were scum but not scum in communication with one another, and the evidence was there.

Oh I see, that makes sense. I didn't understand those weird posts from him either (still don't) but I didn't see how scummy they looked to you guys because of my scum pov.

I think even if vedith answered right and lived there the lynch that day and the one after would've still been hebee or kyndy in either order though (with the 2 resulting nightkills probably being lycan and you), and perhaps a competitive 5p lylo. Although it's possible genji replace would have changed your mind on the slot too and maybe avoided that lynch.
I am curious, if you had more nights to roleblock would you still try roleblocking in townier people or would you have switched to blocking kyndy at some point?

[superbowl9]

Lmao at kyndy consistently spelling roleblocker as rollblocker

[superbowl9]

EBWOP: *Rolecop/rollcop

[Raskolnikov]

lunch the rollcop!

[LlamaFluff]

barrels