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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:12 pm

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Welcome to Open 650: Duck, Duck, Goose!


A game that is notoriously scum sided--but Town have pulled epic win before.


Spoiler: Player list
Living Playersthenewearth
Creature
Expedience (replaces NiceuNiceu)
Cass


DeadLoopdan,
the PGO
is lynched D1.
NJAC,
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is killed N1.
farside22 (replaces nn30)
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is lynched D2.
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is killed N2.
Not_Mafia (replaces pistachi0n)
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is killed N2.
Lowell
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is lynched D3.
Wisdom (replaces Skold)
the PGO
is killed N3.
Vedith (replaces Dishy Dishington; snake153)
Mafia Goon
is killed N3.

Links



Spoiler: Modkilled
I like pissing off people who actually open this section. Really? Modkilled?
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:20 pm

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Good morning! Let us review the rule.

Shamelesly copied from Jerry's Arr =)

Golden rule
  • Remember to have fun!
  • Wheaton's Law : Don't be a dick. I understand that sometimes it's a strategy but if you're going to be dick-as-game-strat, remember to (1) PM me so I don't freak out (2) Clarify and apologize at the end of the game (3) I still have the right to stop you. I know you're just being a dick to get read--which is a valid strategy that I have employed- but your target don't.
  • Site rule applies.


Voting
  • Votes and unvotes must be in either bold tags or vote/unvote tags to count. If I reckon it, I reckon it. If I don't, then I don't reckon it until I do
  • If you're changing vote from one target to another target, you're not required to go to the Unvote-Vote cycle
  • You may vote No lynch.
  • A decision is reached when the majority threshold is reached. The majority threshold is 50% of the vote (rounded down if decimal) + 1.
  • If no majority decision reached by the deadline, the decision defaults to No Lynch.

Phase length
  • Day phase lasts 14 IRL days. unless ended via lynch or other Day-ending action
  • Night phase lasts at 2 IRL days regardless of player action.
  • If a player with a night action misses the night phase deadline, I will extend the night phase deadline by 24 hours. However, to fool you (because I'm cool :mrgreen:), I may extend the night phase despite I already collect all action. However, I only give each player 1 no-question-asked night action deadline extension.
  • Day phase extensions are possible but only in circumstances where the Mod thinks extensions are necessary.


Prods
  • My prod system is a combination of subjective + objective
  • Objective: Prods go out after 48 IRL hours with in-thread inactivity, with timers resetting at the start of a new Day phase. If you do not respond to a prod within 24 hours or the Mod has to prod you a third time, the Mod may replace you.
  • Subjective: Prod dodge will not be counted. Please at least make game-advancing statement (Ie. "Prod received, still think Realeo is scum)
  • Subjective: If a player is active enough but according to the objective part of the prod should be replaced, I at case-by-case basis may let a player keep playing. I will use common sense.


Colors
  • Modcolor is
    purple
    . Mine! Don't use it!


Illegal stuffThe following object (included but not limited to)i s illegal:
  • Breaking the rules, pretending to break the rules, or encouraging others to break the rules.
  • Sharing private information (PM)
  • Quoting PM. Paraphrasing is acceptable
  • Claiming scum along with another player
  • Using text that's small, invisible, cryptographic in nature, or otherwise designed to go outside the spirit of the game.
  • Mod impersonation
  • If in doubt, ask privately.


Extra
  • I will use common sense to solve issue that is not covered.
  • My words are final.
  • But if I screw up, PM me or bold the word "Mod" followed by what you want to tell me, and I'll do my best to either fix it, or get someone who can. To be precise, use the bolded "Mod" for vote count error. PM for otherwise else.
  • No "Bah!" Post
  • Upon 4 consecutive intentional phases with no deaths ("Happily Ever After"), Town wins, unless they are all dead, in which case all living factions win.
  • All Private Topics are revealed post-game.


There has been minor change, but this minor change is done pre-game (27/8)
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:27 pm

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Setup:

9 Paranoid Gun Owner

3 Mafia Goon


Game starts at day phase. Majority lynch.

Mafia will commit a night kill. They must specify who pulled the kill. The catch is, each PGO can use their one-time ability to armed themself.

If Mafia killed a not-armed PGO, PGO dies alone.

If Mafia killed an armed PGO, both PGO and the mafia who pulled the kill wins.

As a result, mafia is allowed to no-kill.

Game ends with town win when the trio scum is dead. Game ends with mafia win when the amount of PGO and town is the same. If everyone dies, mafia wins.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:35 pm

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PGO role PM
The following conversation between Mr.Bob Barker and Mr.Drew Carey never occur:


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Joke time Mr.Trump. Why John F Kennedy is not a good mafia player?


Because he's a Chinese-Mexican who tried to have Crooked Hilarry as her second wife.
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No. Because he got day-vigged.


You listened to their banter during the 444th GPO debate. It's the most corny joke ever. (What do you expect from a 74 years old guy? Barrack Obama who is 50 years maybe able to deliver a better punchline)

But you realized that Bernie Sander's joke has a very deep meaning.


This world is all about survival

You picked up your gun. You became


Spoiler: I wonder what is your role
The Town Sided 1 Shot Paranoid Gun Owner

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"I am a pacifist--but if the humanity is going to betray me, I am not going to go down alone" -Kebert Xela


You have the following ability:

Day voting

Your first method to eradicate the mafia is by using your voting power. It takes a majority to lynch.


Self protection

You have the ability to secretly self protect for the night
once
.
If you're killed by a mafia when you're self protecting, you will kill the mafia as well having yourself killed. It will not be revealed at any point if you have used your self protection skill.


Town
victory condition is to kill all member of the mafia and have at least 1 member of the town alive

Mafia
victory condition is to kill all member of the town or nothing can prevent the same


To confirm participation, reply this PM by telling me (1)Are you town sided or mafia sided (2)What is your role (3)How many times can you protect yourself?



Mafia role PM
The following conversation between Mr.Bob Barker and Mr.Drew Carey never occur:


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Joke time Mr.Trump. Why John F Kennedy is not a good mafia player?


Because he's a Chinese-Mexican who tried to have Crooked Hilarry as her second wife.
Image


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No. Because he got day-vigged.


You listened to their banter during the 444th GPO debate. It's the most corny joke ever. (What do you expect from a 74 years old guy? Barrack Obama who is 50 years maybe able to deliver a better punchline)

But you realized that Bernie Sander's joke has a very deep meaning.


This world is all about survival

You picked up your gun. You became


Spoiler: I wonder what is your role
The Mafia Sided Mafia Goon

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"Life is like Games of Thrones--killing other people make the story plot simpler" -Kebert Xela


You have the following ability:

Day voting

Your first method to eradicate the town is by using your voting power. It takes a majority to lynch.


Factional Kill and Factional Communication

During any point of the game as long you're alive, you may talk with your mafia partners here. Also, during night phase, you may choose one of the living member of the mafia to kill one of the living member of town. However, be alerted that the town may kill back thanks to their paranoid feature.


Town
victory condition is to kill all member of the mafia and have at least 1 member of the town alive

Mafia
victory condition is to kill all member of the town or nothing can prevent the same


To confirm participation, reply this PM by telling me (1)Are you town sided or mafia sided (2)What is your role (3)Who dies if Mafia kill a self-protected town?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:17 pm

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Game starts when 10/12 player confirms.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:51 pm

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Rule clarification:

Mafia wins also when nothing can prevent the same. This implies in a 3 v 3 , 2 v 2, and 1 v 1, mafia auto wins. Because even though town played a perfect armed, the game will whittle down to 0 v 0. As stated by the rule, a 0 v 0 award a mafia win.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:52 pm

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nn30, niceuniceu, and Lowell haven't confirmed.

Lowell have a bad internet, so I will compensate a bit.
nn30 have site flake. He has 24 hours to confirm and a final 24 hours to respond prod. I will find replacement later.
NiceuNiceu is a mistake on my part. I only contacted the hydra.

Therefore, I will start the game.

If this is your first game in mafiascum.net, than welcome! Please review the rule. This includes (but not limited to):

(1) No quoting PM. Paraphrases is acceptable. If in doubt, ask me.
(2) No talking outside this game. The mafia thread, this game thread, and the dead thread are the only 3 places you can talk.


I'm using voting counter system. It will be nice of you if you can try to use the whole name. I understand that this game playerlist's name are a bit hard to spell, so this is only a request. You will not be annihilated for failing to comply. :mrgreen:
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:59 pm

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Day 1 starts


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It takes 7 votes to lynch. Deadline in (expired on 2016-09-12 02:20:00) . Failure to reach 7 votes will result in No Lynch.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:23 pm

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VOTE: Loopdan
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:27 pm

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So I looked up this setup on the wiki
Statistics:

Mafia Win Percentage: 80%
Town Win Percentage: 20%
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:27 pm

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Well, hello everyone. Does it even make sense to random vote in a game like this? Or is it straight to discussing strategy? Not that I have much to add, but I hope there are players here who have played this kind of set-up before?
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:32 pm

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Cass, does my vote on Loop affect anything for you?
If so - what?
If not - why not?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:33 pm

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VOTE: Creature

I forgot were you scum in undertale?
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:58 pm

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Cass, I can't think of a reason why we can't do both.

VOTE: Creature

The following questions are for anybody:
1. Is no lynch a viable option? If so, when?
2. Is there an optimal strat for the self-protect?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:06 am

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1. In games with a more normal setup, nolynch is strictly mathematically worse than lynch. In here, I'd say that it could be viable. I can't say from now "when" it would be good, we have to see how the game plays out.

2. idk
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:10 am

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Wait, no, I changed my mind. Given that all townies are PGOs, scum has no incentive to kill. They can play it perfectly safe and not kill for a while, and bait alot of the PGOs to waste their shots. I think that we should lynch every day, to put pressure on scum and force them to try and attack players who they think are obvtown and hard to lynch.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:24 am

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VOTE: TNE
Harkonnen97 wrote:Wait, no, I changed my mind. Given that all townies are PGOs, scum has no incentive to kill. They can play it perfectly safe and not kill for a while, and bait alot of the PGOs to waste their shots. I think that we should lynch every day, to put pressure on scum and force them to try and attack players who they think are obvtown and hard to lynch.
Agree. Let's lynch scum :D.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:36 am

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nope

no RSQ's

Fuck that

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Loopland
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:39 am

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In post 13, Loopdan wrote:Cass, I can't think of a reason why we can't do both.

VOTE: Creature

The following questions are for anybody:
1. Is no lynch a viable option? If so, when?
2. Is there an optimal strat for the self-protect?
Ok, that's true. I'm just not fond of the random stage, so I'll take any excuse to get rid of it :D

1. Certainly not now. Post sounds very logical, we really can only win this by lynching. There may be some kind of endgame situation where it makes more sense, I dunno. We'll see if that happens?
2. I have no idea, never played this sort of set up before. Bluffing? It seems best to keep scum guessing. Maybe even leaving it to chance, so it's like russian roulette for them? Right now, it looks like gambling to me, but maybe there are other strategies?

VOTE: Creature Best get started with the lynching, then? Or is it too soon? :D
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:48 am

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Random voting? Sounds fun!

VOTE: Harkonnen97

Seriously, though, the ratio of town to mafia is still the same as in the normal game, so there's no reason to nolynch. Admittedly, town is in a weaker position than normal, but I don't think that's enough reason to nolynch day 1.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:59 am

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VOTE: snake
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:13 am

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I'm here. Internet may be back. Let's hope so.

VOTE: pistachio
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:22 am

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In post 17, thenewearth wrote:nope

no RSQ's

Fuck that

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Loopland
Those aren't random questions. They are strategy questions. You don't want town discussing optimal strategy?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:22 am

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In post 15, Harkonnen97 wrote:Wait, no, I changed my mind. Given that all townies are PGOs, scum has no incentive to kill. They can play it perfectly safe and not kill for a while, and bait alot of the PGOs to waste their shots. I think that we should lynch every day, to put pressure on scum and force them to try and attack players who they think are obvtown and hard to lynch.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:31 am

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In post 17, thenewearth wrote:no RSQ's
What RQS are you talking about? I doubt the questions made so far fall into the category of random.
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