Open 653: C9++ [Game Over!]

[Creature]

VOTE: Firebringer

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[Firebringer]

What are you doing you fools!
I am keeping this town alive.

[PenguinPower]

Hammer yourself.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

You will all miss me

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: Firebring

Self-hammering not allowed in the post-games, sorry.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: EagerSnake
For not even spelling my full name!

Wait is this rvs?

[eagerSnake]

Dude I was taking a nap, it was night time, I just woke up and saw a huge juicy wagon and couldn't resist, that's nai.

[lalaladucks]

VC:

Firebringer {5}:

PenguinPower, Vaxkiller, Yuria, Creature, Firebringer

Not voting {3}:

Antihero, eagerSnake, Aquanim

Wow!!

[lalaladucks]

Firebringer has been.........

Spoiler:

sentenced to spend eternity at the dragon opera!

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[Aquanim]

Spoiler: image

[karnos]

Blah. I can't play as scum with people who I haven't played with as town. I still think snake was gambling, if I was town I would have been playing the same way and if his quick hammer was on town it would have gotten him lynched the following day.

And for the record, my argument against TTH was completely real, and I would have made it as town all the same. It's BS logic to say "oh this is a safe play because nobody would ever fight you for it, so I am going to fight you for it" - regardless of town or scum, it's bad logic and ruins games. Luckily for town TTH was replaced out and that line of thinking faded quickly.

[lalaladucks]

I have no idea why the thread was locked earlier today, I didn't do that

Dead Thread

Mafia Thread

Mod Thread

(I did dice rolls in the OP because I'm a nub)

[PenguinPower]

Blah. I can't play as scum with people who I haven't played with as town. I still think snake was gambling, if I was town I would have been playing the same way and if his quick hammer was on town it would have gotten him lynched the following day.

And for the record, my argument against TTH was completely real, and I would have made it as town all the same. It's BS logic to say "oh this is a safe play because nobody would ever fight you for it, so I am going to fight you for it" - regardless of town or scum, it's bad logic and ruins games. Luckily for town TTH was replaced out and that line of thinking faded quickly.

We really should play a game together where we're the same alignment. Until that happens, I'm always going to try and have you hanged.

[karnos]

I know, seriously!

I was going to use that to get you lynched- "me and penguin are never the same alignment, and I drew town so he is scum!" except the innocent child role ruined it.

Also, I was planning to claim doc day 2 protecting penguin, so the persivul kill would look more like a vig and add some doubt, but my busy weekend made it impossible. And then yesterday was the google announce, sorry had to watch that instead of putting forth a greater defense :/

[Aquanim]

Anyway...

GG. Being sick for the first week of the game definitely had an impact on my play, I normally wouldn't fencesit

quite

as much as what happened in this game - it was partly deliberate based on some other things about this game, but having difficulty keeping up with things and thinking straight at the start turned that way up to 11. Not really my finest hour in general, if we'd mislynched anybody this game it was probably going to be me.

@Karnos

: I stand by my position that your argument against TTH doesn't accurately describe what TTH did. Furthermore, I could make the argument that any specific player might

think

that a play is "safe" even when it's not. That being said, whatever it may have looked like, my disagreement with that argument wasn't the primary reason I believed you were mafia. Intangibles, process of elimination and associative reads pretty much sunk both you and FancyPants.

[eagerSnake]

if his quick hammer was on town it would have gotten him lynched the following day.

I really don't think this part is true.

[lalaladucks]

By the way, thanks for playing everyone

[Aquanim]

This is a good chance to see if Aqua is just a measured player or if he is a waffler.

In an ordinary game I would have stopped waffling when I ran out of things which I wanted to talk with people about before showing my hand... but in this game people kept getting hammered before I was done talking

[Aquanim]

if his quick hammer was on town it would have gotten him lynched the following day.

I really don't think this part is true.

I'm pretty sure that no matter what Karnos flipped, if the game wasn't over I was going to hang next.

[FancyPants]

WP town GG EZ.
Ultimately what sunk us what our inactivty and town gradually town reading each other until the PoE was spot on.

On a personal note I hate planning scum and get far more out of trying to find scum than I do trying to fool everybody, but I have learned two major points for the future namely:
- Only lurk as scum if the town is equally inactive, an active town kills lurkers.
- If you're going to defend your scum buddy go balls deep, don't be half assed about it.

Anyway well played everyone and thanks for modding ducks!
If I have one qualm it was you replacing Persivul, he was the one townie that wasn't promoting unity.

Also I thought TNE and TTH replacing out was pretty bad form, every game gets heated, didn't feel like this game was worse than usual.

[karnos]

if his quick hammer was on town it would have gotten him lynched the following day.

I really don't think this part is true.

I dunno, I think it would really fit your meta as scum. /shrug, seen people weasel out of worse, but I still think it was a tremendous gamble.

[eagerSnake]

I'm pretty sure that no matter what Karnos flipped, if the game wasn't over I was going to hang next.

I think he's talking about the DixC hammer here

[karnos]

Yeah, it really killed us that all the scummy looking town replaced out.

[Not_Mafia]

You're welcome for my indelible contribution

[lalaladucks]

Anyway well played everyone and thanks for modding ducks!
If I have one qualm it was you replacing Persivul, he was the one townie that wasn't promoting unity.

It wasn't related to alignment, I wasn't trying to influence the game. Hopefully you're not implying that I was though