Open 692 - Two-fold Matrix6 (Game Over)

[Thor665]

You should vote me now then.
That way no one can win.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

@thor: well, you tricked me as bad as i tricked you. i genuinely thought you were town at the time, but had my doubts resurface later on. i wish i followed ari's read on you and shot you last night instead of vedith whom i was town reading all game long but

your

play made me think otherwise.

anyway, good game everyone. i had fun. it's up to ss now (you invented this setup so you do deserve to decide the winner). i personally would take the 3-way draw but btd seems to think no such thing exists.

@ss: obviously i was the other ww. sorry it came down to this. you do realize no lynch should guarantee you the win bc there's no way either of myself or thor is going to shoot you over the other scum. after all this the town still wins.

also i thought about not killing last night, but the suggestion u should hammer myself in a 4-player 3-way MyLo forced me to try and shoot the mafia instead.

@aris:

sorry

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

@ss: if i had shot thor, would you have voted vedith over me?

[Something_Smart]

Welp I didn't see that coming and now my entire post is irrelevant but I want to share it anyway because I'm proud of it

Spoiler: irrelevant

Omg I can do LAMIST too. (And I'm way better at it.)

I'm not gonna directly engage you because no discourse can be honest. Unless you decide a different action is better, it is in your interest to keep claiming to be town while secretly sorting between me and Judge.

Which means that, even though you can't admit it, you ARE listening. So I'm not expecting a result, but I'm talking right to the actual Thor when I say that Judge is not going to shoot me. And even if despite all this you STILL think I'm scum then I won't be shooting Judge either.

I do have the upper hand here and there's a chance I vote Judge and hand you the win. Judge has been playing the long game with an impressive bus. So he will be understandably reluctant to claim scum.

There's your chance to win. If you claim, Judge might think I'm bluffing. He might be stubborn. If either of those things happen, you win. And you won't win otherwise.

[Something_Smart]

@ss: if i had shot thor, would you have voted vedith over me?

Not immediately. I had strong reasons to think you both were not WW. I'd like to say I would have made the right choice but it would have been 1000 times more stressful than this so thanks

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

lol

[Something_Smart]

Okay.
VOTE: No Lynch

Request short night

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

what would you do if:

1- we both decided to shoot you and settle for a draw?
2- one of us decides they've lost anyway so they refrain from shooting the other granting them the win instead of you?

[Thor665]

I'm okay with that.

@JJD - S_S lied to you quite a bit woth his claim, he played you to try to help his wincon. I can respect that, but I can't respect his abject lying and attempts to try to pass off poor strategy as good.
Here's the deal, you gamed me much better than he did.
Also, you know who I killed last night, so you know my goals are not exactly playing against your wincon at this stage.

I'm killing town.
You can kill me for a clean win, or no kill for a combined win - your choice.
But this will not be S_S's win, nor the vast lurky town's, I assure you.

[Thor665]

what would you do if:

1- we both decided to shoot you and settle for a draw?
2- one of us decides they've lost anyway so they refrain from shooting the other granting them the win instead of you?

That's funny, similar minds

His problem was he didn't ask you who you shot last night.

[Thor665]

For my money, town lost when they opted not to lynch me twice for...no reason at all.
I'll admit I still have no idea why you leapt into that fracas on my side though - but at least it didn't hurt your wincon.

[Thor665]

Reading your answer more fully (I was shocked you opted to claim, I'll admit)
You actually provided answers both to me, and the info he should have noted.
Maybe he was over excited also - after all, his wincon is based on the cross shot.

Glad I hoodwinked you for at least a while - you maybe should have sold your defense just a shade softer though, as even if I was town a lynch on me was okay. But, I know how that can get, even as scum I kind of like to be 'right'.

[Something_Smart]

I mean, I was totally right. If we'd lynched you instead of Lang we would have gone into MYLO and there's no way I would have voted for either wolf.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

the thor i know (ahem) is trustworthy, so i will settle for a draw with you. deal

[Something_Smart]

what would you do if:

1- we both decided to shoot you and settle for a draw?
2- one of us decides they've lost anyway so they refrain from shooting the other granting them the win instead of you?

I believe I would lose.

[Thor665]

I mean, I was totally right. If we'd lynched you instead of Lang we would have gone into MYLO and there's no way I would have voted for either wolf.

That's a problem with your scumhunting and town lurking, not an advocacy of the plan.

[Thor665]

the thor i know (ahem) is trustworthy, so i will settle for a draw with you. deal

Aw sweet!
The laurel for me though is somehow wriggling out of the lynch.
When I replaced in Mafia were up the special creek sans paddle.

[Something_Smart]

It meant given the scenario the plan was right.

[Thor665]

But how exactly did you know your reads were wrong?
You can't 20/20 bad reads after flips as a justification of a plan.

[Something_Smart]

Honestly, I'm happier with you two drawing than with losing to either particular team. It means nobody came out entirely on top.

[Something_Smart]

I knew my reads were untrustworthy, and I said as much.

[Thor665]

So your only confident read was me?

[Something_Smart]

And honestly I don't think ANY faction deserved to win on its own this game.

But it was fun, GG! (And I still like the setup)

Pedit: no, I was also confident in Ari, Judge, and Vedith being town.

[Something_Smart]

Actually maybe the werewolves might but idk. Judge played very well.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

ari was good in the pt. i have no idea why he couldnt match it in this thread.