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I see thank youIn post 74, CommKnight wrote:In post 73, Maki Harukawa wrote:If people die do they just flip there name or can they keep talking until the person who killed them flipped I'm a bit confused on that end
When someone is lynched, they flip normally. When someone is eaten by a Cannibal, their role is hidden until the cannibal is lynched. But they are 100% dead in the larder.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."- UC Voyager
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i guess.In post 75, Gödel wrote:Just from a quick skim of some players posts is this a correct assumption a couple of you guys have played with UCV and you though he was trying to play a newbie card to explain any mistakes he makes? and that is why you are now voting for him?
I mean.
i wasn't even using it to my advantage. i was just asking. how long are RVS in open games. i have seen them differ from game type to game typeso...i don't get enough sleep- sheepsaysmeep
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In post 76, Maki Harukawa wrote:
I see thank youIn post 74, CommKnight wrote:In post 73, Maki Harukawa wrote:If people die do they just flip there name or can they keep talking until the person who killed them flipped I'm a bit confused on that end
When someone is lynched, they flip normally. When someone is eaten by a Cannibal, their role is hidden until the cannibal is lynched. But they are 100% dead in the larder.Another way to think of it. Pretend they're janitors. Then when the janitor is lynched, all the bodies they "cleaned" are now exposed.- Gödel
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okay, i understand your thought process more now, but i still have some questions. why bother searching for cannibals instead of scum? 75 percent of cannibals are scum but 100 percent of scum are scum. furthermore, how does cannibal hunting differ from scumhunting? like, are there just general reads for people who are cannibals? it seems like vig tells vs scum tells wouldn't change in this game, even though they're both cannibals.In post 72, Almost50 wrote:@northsidegirl: I'm confused as to what exactly you want me to explain, so I'll try to state my stance and objective and hopefully you'll get where I'm coming from.
Basically, I want to hunt down the cannibals. You wonder why "cannibals" and not "just scum", which is confusing to me asall scum are cannibals in this game, which means eliminating all cannibals = eliminating all scum.
However, there's also one town-aligned cannibal in the setup, so we have a total of 3 scums, all cannibals out of a total of 4 cannibals. It might have been survivalist for me to think it was an acceptable risk (nobody wants to die and leave the game and it applies to me too), but it also had to do with the unannounced flips for the cannibal kills. In my head it was: worst case we lynch the vig, so 2 NKs with unknown flips rather than 3, AND we might even know if the Mafia got the SK the next night if we only have one NK then.
While I was typing my thoughts it occurred to me that I had been too focused on the cannibals that I totally forgot there were 2 other PRs who are NOT cannibals so that's why I said what I said. I also do not have a crystal ball so I could still be wrong so added that factor at the end.
With this and with me trying to determine the alignment of others, like Transcend (one of the very few I have previous experience with) I don't see why I should rush a lynch on someone I had just said I suspect but NOT SURE is scum. I'll wait for Transcend to start playing the game so that I have a better chance of guessing his true colours, and maybe a few others too. (I won't be sharing a read list on D1, but I already have marked down 2 players as most likely town and 3 as more suspicious than the others).
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Keychain ....In post 71, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: Assemble
This vote and comment was awful Transcend lets go choo choo.- Keychain
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"a couple of you guys" is very indirect. Who are you talking about?Gödel wrote:Just from a quick skim of some players posts is this a correct assumption a couple of you guys have played with UCV and you though he was trying to play a newbie card to explain any mistakes he makes? and that is why you are now voting for him?You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.- Transcend
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Presumably they're talking about me and everyone else voting UCV.In post 83, Keychain wrote:I haven't seen Not_Mafia around yet.
"a couple of you guys" is very indirect. Who are you talking about?Gödel wrote:Just from a quick skim of some players posts is this a correct assumption a couple of you guys have played with UCV and you though he was trying to play a newbie card to explain any mistakes he makes? and that is why you are now voting for him?ShowCheck my wiki for my meta.
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No. North is the only one who said it was due to him playing a newbie card, I believe, I don't know why you'd assume it was referring to you. Sheep said it was RVS earlier and unvoted immediately after the question, so it wasn't referring to him. Also if you think he's talking to you, why don't you answer?
I'm more interested in the fact that it sounds like Godel is avoiding directly addressing anyone. You didn't have to intercept that one and I'd still like a response from Godel.
72 from A50 was very overexplainy. I also wouldn't really call an early vote "rushing a lynch". A50, why would you assume that UCV was a cannibal instead of just scum? What kind of tells does a cannibal in particular give off, compared to scum or PR?You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.- Keychain
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Sorry, should clarify this - I didn't see your vote as being due to seeing him as playing the newbie card, you just seemed to have an issue with his overall play, which I consider a different thing.In post 86, Keychain wrote:I don't know why you'd assume it was referring to you.You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.- PMysterious
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Looks through Trans' ISO, and here's what I see.
21 posts, all one liners, but only 3 of them are of any substance, or anything that really sticks out.
In post 37, Transcend wrote:North is town
The first one is for being a vote on Keychain, no explanation given since then, and the only times it is brought back up is in one word posts with "Keychain".In post 84, Transcend wrote:sheep feels tonally empty
The second one for making a read on North, again, no explanation given.
The final one, is an accusation on play, but like before, Trans gives no explanation or any extension on this whatsoever.
The remaining 18 posts fall under one of these criteria.
1. Just a quote.
2. Something that is meant to mock another player.
3. Has very little if any relevance (like lmfao, woof, or anything of that type.)
This is suspicious behavior, and it is leading me to believe that Trans is Scum or SK, just trying to stay under the radar and constantly prod dodge at the same time.ShowPM, here with a calmer nature.
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@northsidegal/@Keychain:
Am I speaking another language?
1- ALL SCUM ARE CANNIBALS
2- I FORGOT ABOUT THE NON-CANNIBAL PRs
3- I WANT ALL FLIPS EXPOSED BECAUSE I NEED THE INFO TO GET BETTER READS ON THE LIVING PLAYERS
Now, what IS there not to understand? UCV was acting weird and I interpreted it as someone who got a role they couldn't handle. It was as if he wanted to create a smoke screen to camouflage himself, and it singled him out instead. Why would he do that? Because he is "not a VT". Why a "cannibal"? Because I forgot about the other 2 PRs (see #2 above), Why would I want cannibals out? refer to #1 & #3 above. It's not rocket science.
On another note, my RVS vote on Transcend is now a semi-serious one. While Transcend's trolling is normal; he usually provides more contend and even much more posts (I can't say they'd "all" have content, but his posting count along with them being one-word each is not Transcend-like to me).
@Transcend: Hey, buddy... picture me standing with a little kitten right at my feet. She's afraid of you, but she feels that I can protect her. I'm even meowing back at her as I'm kneeling down to pat her on the head. Now tell me how this makes you feel. Come at me. Let's fight!
P-edit: PMysterious beat me to it. Good to know I'm not alone here.
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It's definitely shit he's pulled as scum in the past (most notably in Large Normal 204), but I'm not sure if he does it as town or not.In post 88, PMysterious wrote:Looks through Trans' ISO, and here's what I see.
21 posts, all one liners, but only 3 of them are of any substance, or anything that really sticks out.
In post 37, Transcend wrote:North is town
The first one is for being a vote on Keychain, no explanation given since then, and the only times it is brought back up is in one word posts with "Keychain".In post 84, Transcend wrote:sheep feels tonally empty
The second one for making a read on North, again, no explanation given.
The final one, is an accusation on play, but like before, Trans gives no explanation or any extension on this whatsoever.
The remaining 18 posts fall under one of these criteria.
1. Just a quote.
2. Something that is meant to mock another player.
3. Has very little if any relevance (like lmfao, woof, or anything of that type.)
This is suspicious behavior, and it is leading me to believe that Trans is Scum or SK, just trying to stay under the radar and constantly prod dodge at the same time.ShowCheck my wiki for my meta.
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Just a reminderIn post 23, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
As Long As I Want It TO beIn post 10, UC Voyager wrote:So I'm new to open games....how does the game flow
How long is RVS. WhatnotLulz
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It goes Woosh Woosh Woosh.In post 13, Assemblerotws wrote:
The last three completed Opens are all linked on my wiki.In post 10, UC Voyager wrote:So I'm new to open games....how does the game flow
How long is RVS. Whatnot
What does that mean though? Because you can't change a playstyle from game to game?Stats not in the wiki. I'm That Crazy Panda.
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81 is not expressing confusion, it's asking you questions. the sentence about you thinking ucv couldn't handle the role was mostly what i was looking for. still wondering exactly how hunting cannibals differs from hunting scum, and why you would take the "acceptable loss" of the vig instead of just preferring scum, but it's probably mostly semantics at this point.In post 90, Almost50 wrote:@northsidegal/@Keychain:
Am I speaking another language?
1- ALL SCUM ARE CANNIBALS
2- I FORGOT ABOUT THE NON-CANNIBAL PRs
3- I WANT ALL FLIPS EXPOSED BECAUSE I NEED THE INFO TO GET BETTER READS ON THE LIVING PLAYERS
Now, what IS there not to understand? UCV was acting weird and I interpreted it as someone who got a role they couldn't handle. It was as if he wanted to create a smoke screen to camouflage himself, and it singled him out instead. Why would he do that? Because he is "not a VT". Why a "cannibal"? Because I forgot about the other 2 PRs (see #2 above), Why would I want cannibals out? refer to #1 & #3 above. It's not rocket science.- Maki Harukawa
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I’m on vla I only have time to read 1-2 most recent posts ;-;In post 84, Transcend wrote:sheep feels tonally empty- sheepsaysmeep
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