Open 700: Donner Party - ENDGAME

[Not_Mafia]

That's not confirmed

[PMysterious]

The evidence is stacked against your claim, Not_Mafia. You are not a Vanilla Townie, but rather a Cannibal Mafia Goon. If you have any evidence supporting your claim, present it now or forever hold your peace.

[Not_Mafia]

I am a VT, my evidence is your mum

[PMysterious]

I am a VT, my evidence is your mum

That's the problem. Where as I can prove that you are Mafia, you can't prove you are VT with the evidence we have gathered throughout the entire game. There's still one Mafia left in the game, and as far as I am concerned, that Mafia is you.

[Not_Mafia]

prove
pruːv/Submit
verb
1.
demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence or argument.

[Not_Mafia]

You have presented a possible roles list in which I am scum, I have presented a possible roles list in which I am town.

All you have presented is a possibility that I'm scum, you however, are confirmed and claimed scum.

[havingfitz]

V/la till monday. Might lay a vote sooner.

[Not_Mafia]

Voting me is literally playing against your win con

[PMysterious]

Voting me is literally playing against your win con

You're confirmed Mafia at this rate. Voting you doesn't go against his win condition, as he would be lynching Mafia anyway.

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not, I'm literally, factually, objectively, not confirmed scum. You however are.

[PMysterious]

I'm not, I'm literally, factually, objectively, not confirmed scum. You however are.

I will not deny that fact, but you are denying that based on how this game has this game has played out, you are Mafia. I have the evidence to support the claim, and if I need to, I can show every single piece of evidence to prove my point.

[Not_Mafia]

Stop saying prove, you can't prove it, even if I was scum you couldn't

prove

it

[Not_Mafia]

I will never be confirmed scum to fitz, even if there's a 99% chance I'm scum, there's always going to be a 100% chance you are, you're always today's lynch, no matter what

[Not_Mafia]

I'm going to bet now that fitz still votes me

[havingfitz]

Stop saying prove, you can't prove it, even if I was scum you couldn't

prove

it

Prove you're town.

[Not_Mafia]

I can't prove I'm town, PM can't prove I'm mafia. The set-up is one of the two possibilities we posted.

PM is confirmed SK however.

You're

literally

playing against your wincon if you don't vote him. Why have you made two posts without voting PM?

[PMysterious]

I can't prove I'm town, PM can't prove I'm mafia. The set-up is one of the two possibilities we posted.

PM is confirmed SK however.

You're

literally

playing against your wincon if you don't vote him. Why have you made two posts without voting PM?

What if I'm not? You keep on stating that the possibility that you may be Scum (despite all of the evidence pointing to that claim). However, you are forgetting this is a double edged sword. I could very well be the Vigilante all along, and I may have claimed SK just so I'm not a target to the Mafia.

You're using "possibilities", but you are forgetting that there are also possibilities that maybe I'm not the SK.

I'm saying this because you're an idealist trying to get the best situation (to try and sneak away a Mafia win), and I'm a realist, someone who sees the evidence up to this point, and says that you are Mafia.

[Not_Mafia]

You lost the opportunity to reverse your claim a while ago

[havingfitz]

So on the assumption it's me against a mafioso and a serial killer, my 1st preference would have been to get myself lynched so they could cross kill tonight. But that still results in a town loss and just a draw between scum and sk. Assuming I have that right. But not a factor since I can't self vote.

Next I thought I would just not vote at all and see where that went. A random lynch of any of us doesn't do town any good either if it's 1-1-1.

So I'm inclined to lynch.

My first thought on lynching was let the sk have the win since I have a soft spot for sk roles. All alone...uphill fight to survive lynching and nk's (unless BP of course).

So leaning towards voting not_mafia and letting PM have the win.

However...and as not_mafia mentions...there is a greater than 0% chance that not_mafia is not the last mafia.

And while I'm surprised this option hasn't been raised...and I do not think it is the way things happened...IF Keychain was scum and killed Almost50 N1 AND PM killed Keychain N1 (instead of A50 as he indicated)...then PM would know there was only one scum left and that A50 was the dietician.

Does hypothetically solo scum Assembler cross kill last night and give town the win or does Assembler hope that PM kills me or NSG and still have life?

Is there a scenario where not_mafia could be town? Yes.

Do I think not_mafia is scum? Yes.

If not_mafia and PM are scum and sk...town doesn't deserve to win, so there really isn't anything I can do wrong at this point other than handing the win to 100% non-town (PM) by voting not_mafia.

Which I can't do.

VOTE: PM

[Not_Mafia]

Nice

[PMysterious]

The larder's going to come out then, and you'll find out the results for yourself.

[CommKnight]

Vote Count 4.2

[1]

Not_Mafia

PMysterious,
[0]

havingfitz

[2]

PMysterious

Not_Mafia, havingfitz,

<---- LYNCH

Note Voting:

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch!

Day Ends:

(expired on 2017-12-15 14:00:00)

Mod Notes:

[CommKnight]

The two remaining town eyed the claimed cannibal whom was trying to cause doubt in town and lynch the unknown townie. However, the local roleblocker seen the logic and went ahead to help the unknown townie string the cannibal up.

PMysterious was a

Cannibal Mafia Goon

The two remaining townspeople went to PMysterious' house and found his hidden larder... where multiple bodies were found.

Almost50 :

Dietician

Porkens :

Town Cannibal Vigilante

Transcend :

Vanilla Townie

Assemblerotws :

Cannibal Serial Killer

northsidegal :

Vanilla Townie

Keychain :

Cannibal Mafia Goon

The

town

has

WON

[CommKnight]

[CommKnight]

Thread is now unlocked. PTs will be released later tonight once I get home. Currently working on a presentation for tonight's class.