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Post Post #6  (isolation #0)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:30 am

Not_Mafia.....riiiiiiiiight.

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Post Post #18  (isolation #1)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:50 am

Chin up. Maybe the sk hits mafia. Maybe the vig or cop get a chance to act.

Too early to crap all over town's chances. smh
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Post Post #24  (isolation #2)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:24 pm

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Post Post #25  (isolation #3)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:25 pm

In post 23, Mathdino wrote:I'm more discouraging policy lynches

Are you in a lot of games where policy lynches are going on? Was there a reason you thought there might be one in this game? I can remember the last time I was in a game with a policy lynch.

Would Not_Mafia lolhammer someone he wasn't scum-reading?

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Post Post #52  (isolation #4)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:21 am

Lalendra feels town to me. Math probably as well.
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Post Post #53  (isolation #5)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:33 am

In post 34, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 25, havingfitz wrote:
In post 23, Mathdino wrote:I'm more discouraging policy lynches

Are you in a lot of games where policy lynches are going on? Was there a reason you thought there might be one in this game? I can remember the last time I was in a game with a policy lynch.

Would Not_Mafia lolhammer someone he wasn't scum-reading?

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What does this line of enquiry have to do with scum hunting? Are you just trying to look busy?

VOTE: HavingFitz

You could be a little busier. :roll:

I've never been in a game where someone was worried about policy lynches right from the start. It struck me as odd and I wanted more detail. More oddness in the response could lead to finding scum. Aka scumhunting. How is that not obvious to you?
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Post Post #128  (isolation #6)  » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:52 pm

Mostly v/LA until Wednesday. I'll try to post if I get any time. Tough around Christmas.
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Post Post #178  (isolation #7)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:13 am

V/la over :(

Game short enough that I'm just reading back from start. Will opine asap.
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Post Post #204  (isolation #8)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:42 pm

OK….re-read from the start:

Ever so slightly pinged by Maxous’ . Head nod at Lalendra for the same train of thought.

Wasn’t a big fan of Math’s . Not sure it served any purpose and seemed a bit serious for so early in the game. Try hardish.

Maxous with the animals crying….wtf….

Not a big fan of Math’s about discouraging policy lynches. As I mention later in the game…I’m not sure I’ve ever seen any cautions of voiced concerns about policy lynching on D1/P1 of a game before. Seems odd.

Math’s seems a bit odd in that he is so concerned about mislynches (either through policy or lolhammers) that he would place a “Let’s see what happens” vote on someone he’s null on in favor of 2-3 other players he’s expressed suspicions towards. smh…. Head nod at Lalendra for the same train of thought.

I feel like I am commenting a lot on Math but he’s providing a lot of material to work with. On that note…

Math’s isn’t good imo. He tone shades mutant for two clearly joking posts…unvotes Elmo because Elmo’s one post since Math voted him apparently satisfied Math’s curiosity/concerns..and then votes mutant who in his (Math’s) previous post just 40 minutes earlier was not an option so as to avoid OMGUS/1v1ing and potentially being irrational. :/

Chip for lame reasoning. How could not be construed as scum hunting (see ) makes me smh….

Not a fan of the Maxous push on mutant but mutant response/s feel town.

OK…not liking Math’s reasoning for suspecting Bins. How can feel forced is beyond me.

Still ok with but starting to doubt my Math read.

…not voting anyone at this point because no one was was sticking out to me yet in what limited interest in the game I had atm.

…if you feel this way about Elmo’s response to Math voting him…how do you feel about Math finding the Elmo response satifactory enough to unvote him? The way you are interpreting Elmo’s response should coincide with Math keeping his vote on Elmo.

@ …I’m town reading A50.

Also at this point in the game I’m leaning town on Elmo, Bins and maybe Not_Mafia ottomh.

OK…so I’m liking Bins at this point but then she makes which I do not care for. 1) I personally find it very difficult to find SKs and 2) I think at least for the moment having an SK is a good thing. I’m pretty sure the SK is going to be looking for mafia more than they are in thinning town’s numbers. I.e. trying to focus town on lynching the SK seems misplaced when IMO it’s better to get scum. Especially if we eliminate a scum who controls the vig or the cop switches. A little tarnish on Bins for this post. But I like her explanation on SK chat…tarnish removed.

I do not care for Elmo’s . I think mutant is making sense ftmp and I am like minded.

Observation WRT Math’s read towards me this game:
– I seem good
– Math could agree with me being town
– Math has me as null-scum because of my interactions rubbing him the wrong way.

Considering I made no posts between Math’s 95 and 126…I don’t get the read change. And considering the only two posts I make between your 26 and 126 are 1) a post where I am town reading Lalendra and “probably” YOU and 2) and response to Chip that you say …please elaborate on what is now rubbing you the wrong way that I am null scum to you.

lol at Sauce’s . Slight townread on Sauce.

OK…Not_Mafia drops back to null.

Done catching up as of post 197…here are my reads:

Town - A50, Mutant, Bins, Sauce
TBD – Lalendra, Elmo, Not_Mafia, Chip
Suspect – Math, Maxous, raya

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Post Post #229  (isolation #9)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:02 am

In post 204, havingfitz wrote: Observation WRT Math’s read towards me this game:
– I seem good
– Math could agree with me being town
– Math has me as null-scum because of my interactions rubbing him the wrong way.

Considering I made no posts between Math’s 95 and 126…I don’t get the read change. And considering the only two posts I make between your 26 and 126 are 1) a post where I am town reading Lalendra and “probably” YOU and 2) and response to Chip that you say please elaborate on what is now rubbing you the wrong way that I am null scum to you.

...and now scum to you post-post 204.
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Post Post #230  (isolation #10)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:04 am

In post 206, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm fine with a lynch on any of those 3

Useless as usual I see.
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Post Post #231  (isolation #11)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:12 am

In post 207, Mathdino wrote:To be more transparent, Raya's scum meta is to not really mention or interact with her teammates, and when asked for a read on them, she usually nulls.

This might be useful for finding her partners if she were to flip scum...but what is she doing that indicates SHE is scum?
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Post Post #233  (isolation #12)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:41 am

In post 231, havingfitz wrote:but what is she doing that indicates SHE is scum?

EEBWOP...

but what is she doing that indicates she IS scum?
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Post Post #234  (isolation #13)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:56 am

In post 214, Lalendra wrote:That wall post on page 7 seems manufactured, particularly the part where he said that it "will be interesting to see if Lalendra keeps up the pressure on Maxous"

I had literally one post about Maxous, which was an RVS vote. C'mon man

Kind of a misrep/misquote on Sauce.
You were still voting Maxous at this point and Sauce calls you out for doing the bare minimum. Doesn't say anything about "it will be interesting to see" and only uses the term pressure in conjunction with two other possibilities (w/ not at all or an equilibrium).

In post 183, Sauce wrote:Lalendra - is doing the bare minimum to keep the wagon afloat. It is most uncertain whether this is town or scum motivated. My read on her is independent of the posts others have expressed were alignment indicative. Instead I rely solely on whether she keeps up the pressure on Maxous, not at all, or actively maintains an equilibrium somewhere in the middle.


So try again, why you voting Sauce?
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Post Post #240  (isolation #14)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:54 am

In post 235, Lalendra wrote:Again, because that bullet point is all about me putting "pressure" on Maxous, which I was not doing at any point.
was about trying to sort you out and basing it on how you proceeded with your pressure on Maxous. It’s clear. You are trying to make it something it is not. He says he is going to base his read on you on whther you keep up the (bare minimum) pressure you are exerting, not at all…or some equilibrium bs. And while you say you were not pressuring Maxous at any point you would be wrong. You may not have been pressuring him very much (bareminimum) but I would argue a vote on it’s own in absence of any other factors is a form of pressure. I.e. you were pressuring Maxous.

In post 235, Lalendra wrote:"Bare minimum to keep the wagon afloat" - clearly keeping the wagon afloat was not my intention, I placed an RVS vote and just never bothered moving it because I generally don't change my votes unless we're close to lynch (Maxous isn't) or I find a better target (I haven't yet).
knowing your intention is difficult if you aren’t being clear.

So what is your read on Maxous at the moment?

In post 235, Lalendra wrote:"My read on her is independent of the posts others have expressed were AI" - so, his read of me is based entirely on one RVS post?

He isn’t saying what his read on you is. He is saying it will be determined on how you proceed. Not on your lone RVS vote that you left on Maxous for almost a week. smh…

In post 235, Lalendra wrote:"I rely solely on whether she keeps up the pressure on Maxous" - okay yes, I paraphrased this bit, but it doesn't change the fundamental fact that he's literally constructing his entire read of me based on a single post in RVS. If that's not the definition of tryharding I don't know what is.

No he is not…you are not reading/comprehending his post. Whether on purpose or not is tbd.

In post 235, Lalendra wrote:And while we're on the topic, I'm glad Mathdino brought up how weird it is to have the playerlist divided into M/F when creating a readslist. There are so many other completely arbitrary ways to organize a readslist that it doesn't seem AI, per se, but it bugs the hell out of me. It didn't factor into my vote, but it is a very odd approach.

Agreed. AI? I don’t think so. Why are you bringing it up? Shade?

In post 236, Lalendra wrote:It's just so strange to me that he based his read on an RVS vote, acknowledged that he isn't taking into account any other posts which others have considered AI, and implies that I was putting pressure on Maxous where there was none.

Misreps.

In post 236, Lalendra wrote:And honestly, your defense of him pings me as weird as well; it rings hollow. Like I have a hard time believing that even you believe what you are saying.

I’ve never been accused of being hollow regardless of my alignment. If you do not think I believe what I am saying you are obtuse.

In post 237, Lalendra wrote:And "keeping the wagon afloat" - there is no wagon on Maxous, you and Sauce are the only ones voting him, since I moved my vote.

When he made his post you and he were voting Maxous. Why are you speaking out of context? And incorrectly.

In post 237, Lalendra wrote:There is no wagon on Sauce, because at the moment I'm the only one voting him, though I'm hoping that will change. So what wagon am I trying to keep afloat? The one I placed one vote on in RVS and didn't talk about since, or the one that I hadn't yet moved to when he made that post?
Sauce is clearly referring to the wagon that existed at the time on Maxous. Again…why are you even commenting on this when you know what he meant?
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Post Post #268  (isolation #15)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:42 pm

In post 264, Mathdino wrote:Since we can't lynch town anyway, I'm actually more interested in lynching one of her partners today and having the vig or SK shoot her tonight.

Not sure outting yourself, if true, was the best thing. Why aren't you voting Bins?

With switches there's no guarantee Bins gets vigged...maaybe the sk does it? But if you're full of shit and Bins is town and we mislynch today instead of "guilty" Bins...and town Bins is nk'd...then idfk....town's pretty much really screwed. Plus if Bins is scum and turns out to be the vig switch....good for the town.

I'll wait till Bins responds before I consider moving my vote.

P.edit...didn't factor last few posts
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Post Post #274  (isolation #16)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:14 pm

In post 269, Mathdino wrote:Thanks for not believing me.

1) I didn't say I didn't believe your claim. FTR I'm inclined to.
2) I'm not going to blindly believe you...I've been burned before.
3) If we do decide to believe you I'd prefer the sure thing for today's lynch and discuss likely associations for vig (and sk?) to act on tonight following a Bins scum flip.

P.edit Lalendra looking worse every post she makes...smh.
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Post Post #277  (isolation #17)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:27 pm

In post 272, Lalendra wrote:Considering I was already scumreading Fitz

Please elaborate. Why are you scum reading me?

In post 272, Lalendra wrote:Weird that all three went silent after Math's proclamation (aside from Fitz's single half-hearted retort) but could be coincidence

Do you think people live on this site? smh.... Your shade attempts are laughable.

P.edit...@Raya, love to hear your scum reasoning on me (anyone) too.
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Post Post #281  (isolation #18)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:31 pm

In post 280, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Bins

Raya is Bins Partner just fyi

Why?
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Post Post #285  (isolation #19)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:39 pm

In post 282, Raya36 wrote:1) had a bit of a defensive vibe
2) seems like a bad attempt to resist believing math. What makes you hesitate in believing him?

1) says I'm inclined to believe Math in response to him saying I don't. HTF is that defensive?
2) I said why. I've been burned by jumping to believe claims before. No need to rush a claim reaction yet.

Your posts are bad Raya. Like you're just posting shit for the sake of posting.

P edit...what pish on Lalendra? Not liking her recent posts? Pointing out the flaws in her Sauce accusations? Smh....ok.....
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Post Post #311  (isolation #20)  » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:08 pm

I'm in a game full of Vi's. (Raya, Lalendra, Math to name a few)

I'll be AFK most of the rest of the day until tomorrow morning. Please don't speedlynch anyone.

I look forward to tearing a few new ones tomorrow morning.

Also...UNVOTE:
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Post Post #411  (isolation #21)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:59 am

In post 409, Maxous wrote:so i do have a confession to make

Papa? :eek:
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Post Post #412  (isolation #22)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:59 am

OK...so I think everyone has posted and there doesn't seem to be any conflict with Math's claim...plus Bins claimed scum so that kind of locks it in.

So good. Math is town.

Bins is a good player :) This is two games in a row iirc that I have town read her (early) and she wound up being scum. smh...

If I was 100% certain Bins was the SK (which I kind of do believe her) I would entertain letting her live another night to maybe screw with the mafia switches and knock off some agreed to targets/scum. But I think Bins is also competent enough to know that her only chance of extending her life in this game was to claim SK (regardless of whether she is mafia or sk). A mafia claim would be insta-lynch. An sk claim...something for at least some to think about.

However...having just completed a game where mafia fakeclaimed SK to extend their life (and almost got a win doing so)...I'm in the same mindset as others intent on voting her today.

I don't see a need to rush things so I'll let others vote Bins unless it gets close to deadline.

Hopefully she is bluffing and is mafia. Otherwise it will suck to have the cop and vig switched off indefinitely.

I'm around all day and will probably respond to a few previous (and new) posts here and there as long as the game is open.

Wait...on that note....

Is it in town's best interest to eliminate Bins today?

If Bins is the sk...scum is going to want her out of the game for their wincon AND to stop her from f'ing with the switches. Mafia ABSOLUTELY want sk!Bins to be lynched today. If sk!Bins is left alive today...does mafia dare not shoot her tonight?

If Bins is fakeclaiming mafia...wouldn't the real sk be inclined to kill her? We could just let tbd!Bins last one more night and if she isn't killed (by mafia...or sk?) we could just insta-lynch her tomorrow.

If she is the sk letting her live through tonight would/should kind of handcuff mafia into killing her tonight. And or possibly handcuff a real sk to killing her. Letting her live just f's up scum plans this evening either way and frees town up to vote someone else today (ex. Raya or Maxous)...cause I doubt either of them is getting nk'd anytime soon.

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Post Post #430  (isolation #23)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:15 am

In post 425, Not_Mafia wrote:Scum is Bins/Raya/Maxous/Fitz I think

You might have up to three correct. Good luck!

In post 416, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 412, havingfitz wrote:Mafia ABSOLUTELY want sk!Bins to be lynched today. If sk!Bins is left alive today...does mafia dare not shoot her tonight?

Wrong if she's guilty she would have nk immunity

I'm not wrong about mafia wanting sk!Bins lynched. But good point about mafia nk immunity. Looks like Bins it is.

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Post Post #431  (isolation #24)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:17 am

If Bins were mafia would there be any reason for the sk to not nk her?
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Post Post #437  (isolation #25)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:26 am

I think it's time to come clean guys.

I'm the Doc. Whoever the real cop is I'll protect tonight.
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Post Post #446  (isolation #26)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:25 pm

In post 443, mutantdevle wrote:Fitz knows what I'm talking about.

Ha.

Ok...holding off for discussion isn't doing much good.

VOTE: Bins

Hopefully she's mafia.

Also....v/la until next Wednesday (Jan 3) if I make it through the night.
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Post Post #458  (isolation #27)  » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:16 pm

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Post Post #651  (isolation #28)  » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:34 pm

In post 578, Equinox wrote:
Vote Count 2.04Chip Butty (3) - Maxous, Almost50, Elmo TeH AzN
havingfitz (1) - Sauce
Maxous (1) - Not_Mafia

Not Voting (3) - Chip Butty, havingfitz, mutantdevle

With 8 votes, it will take 5 to reach majority.

The deadline is Sunday, January 14, 2018, at 9:00 PM EST (UTC-5), which is in (expired on 2018-01-14 21:00:00).

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Brief check in...why the rush to lynch someone? The fact that two of the people on the Chip wagon were off the Bins wagon is too funny.

I'd probably lean towards voting Maxous but I'm not caught up and won't be until tomorrow.
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Post Post #667  (isolation #29)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:11 pm

In post 665, Almost50 wrote:Where the freak is Elmo/mutant/Fitz??

I'm here. Not scum btw.

Will try to get a decent post up by tomorrow.
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Post Post #670  (isolation #30)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:52 pm

In post 663, Almost50 wrote:OK, the second option is reliant on Fitz actually having reads, which I very much doubt.

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Well I am town. There's read #1.
Read #2 is there is a 50% chance one of you is scum. Not bad odds.

Why am I scum again A50? VCA? I would do a better job of not looking as bad as I do in VCA if I had anything to hide. tyvm

In post 664, Not_Mafia wrote:I agree with lynching fitz

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Post Post #693  (isolation #31)  » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:49 pm

Checking in. Not sure who I suspect so not voting anyone yet.
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Post Post #702  (isolation #32)  » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:37 pm

In post 694, mutantdevle wrote:Fitz I swear to god if you hammer imma be so mad. Not at you, but at any town that allowed you to be in a position to hammer on Mylo (still writing my post).

The day is still young...I am very inactive during the weekend and throw in a blizzard that had me digging out from snow for a good part of Thursday and Friday and mafiascum is not getting a lot of my time. If we could wait until after the weekend to seriously consider voting people that would be nice.

mutant's posting since his wagon has built up has me thinking he is town. I'm town so A50 is really annoying the hell out of me. I can't really say who I suspect the most as I need to give the game (remaining players) a closer look. Which might not be until Monday.

How about no one vote for a few days to give people a chance to give the game a closer look and present legitimate reasons for suspicions? We have 12 days ffs.
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Post Post #711  (isolation #33)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:42 am

Here. Looking over D3 and doing some ISOs.

Meanwhile...I'd appreciate it ifA50 would unvote me and refrain from hammering mutant.
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Post Post #712  (isolation #34)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:20 pm

Catching up from D3.

@A50, wrt to ...why do you only discuss the two nightkills as strange for the SK to have shot and not mention the vig or the last mafia's likelihood of shooting Sauce or Maxous? Do either of the NK's make sense for mafia?

@A50, wrt to :
- After Dino's guilty on Bins I voted Bins for a time but as her lynch was inevitable I didn't see a reason to cut the day short so I unvoted her. Pre-guilty I thought Bins was town. I usually do town read her >:/
- Dino was most likely shot for being the cop...not because I was one of the players he suspected. And if you look at his reads...other than his guilty on Bins his suspicions towards Raya and Sauce (and me) were wrong. I do not think his reads were what got him killed.
- In my defense I was being voted by Chip Butty all of D1 aside from his move to Bins post-guilty. Not sure if Chip is a fan of bussing but I am not...neither giving or receiving.
- Also...and lol....do you think as mafia I would have killed either of the N2 nk's in favor of town!A50? Let your large ego digest that.

@not_mafia, wrt to ...why do you agree with lynching me?

@mutant, wrt to ...I like the effort in your post...but all the different possibilities make my head hurt. Basically I think whether we no lynch today...lynch anti-town, or mislynch...town still has a chance depending on what shots are taken tonight. Ideally I think lynching the SK today would be in the best option for town.

@A50, wrt to ...you say without reservation that mutant and I are, in some order, the sk and last mafia. 1) you are wrong. I am town. 2) why are you clearing not_mafia and Elmo from consideration? If there is something that could help clear them in my mind I would love hearing it. Lastly...you close out this post convincing yourself I am the 3rd mafia (I'm not). So if you have convinced yourself of this...why are you voting me over mutant who by POE you must think is the sk?

Elmo's is pathetic. Her isn't much better. It looks like posting stuff to appear engaged but just happy attention is elsewhere. So I repeat...why is Elmo not under consideration by you A50? Feel free to answer as well not_mafia.

mutant's is really good. Makes me feel confident in what he is saying. The bread-crumbing of the react ion test was nicely done. WTH is he being wagonned up today? smh...

@A50, wrt to ...you say that "statistically it is more likely that one scum is on the {Bins} bus and the other is off it"...which would apply to Elmo and not_mafia. aka your town reads. Did I mention WTF?

@A50, wrt to ...no...let's not lynch fitz. The night that will result in is a 2v1v1 night. Not the end of the world for town is sk and mafia cross fire....but not as good as 3v1 either.

@A50, wrt to ...this looks a lot like rolefishing imo. And there is no way anyone who is not the vig could know who the vig is. And based on your read on me I think it's even less likely that you are correct in guessing who the vig is. Since a guess is all you could be working with.

Going to do a few ISO's but pre-ISO...here is where my reads stand:

Town - mutant
Scum - Elmo
coin-flip - A50 and not_mafia

While I go do ISO's I'd love to hear anyone substantiate their scum or town reads on Elmo, not_mafia and/or A50.
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Post Post #714  (isolation #35)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:02 pm

In post 713, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:So your scumreading the 3 people on the mutant wagon. And you make it seem like mutant is a mislynch. Hmmm....... Let's think about this for a second...

What are you getting at? And there aren't three on the mutant wagon fyi.

Smh....
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Post Post #719  (isolation #36)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:53 pm

In post 718, Not_Mafia wrote:It's Mutant and Elmo

Why? You keep throwing out unsubstantiated reads.
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Post Post #725  (isolation #37)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:37 pm

Elmo ISO first...

First 6 posts...nothing significant IMO worth mentioning.

- votes not_mafia and shades Sauce a bit. not_mafia vote looks to be a pressure vote. Not sure why a pressure vote is better than a vote on Sauce for whatever reasons she wasn't feeling "too hot" about him. Unless it was strictly a joking comment.

- votes mutant for espousing the pro's to leaving the SK alive. Can't really argue against this vote.

- makes a good catch wrt the SK having nk immunity. Something I could see mafia being fully aware of and an SK not seeing any reason to comment on.

- Elmo voting Chip (2nd vote on wagon) and sticking with it makes me doubt that she is mafia. I do not see mafia going out of their way to initiate a wagon on their vig switch who got very little attention (if any) day 1. Unless Maxous had some really killer case on Chip...I think odds favor the 3rd mafia being not_mafia or mutant and the SK being A50 or Elmo (despite the dumbtelling Elmo has been doing wrt the SK role).

- votes mutant for mutant's no lynch suggestion (aka reaction test).

@mutant....what was the outcome of your reaction test? Who passed and who failed. And if there was a fail...why no vote?

You keep mentioning me Elmo....do you have a case on me?

Elmo's last several posts don't really do anything AI for me.

Summary...I was AFK most of D2 it seems and I do not know what the case on Chip was. That said...I can't see mafia going out of their way to whittle down their numbers to ONE and lose any hope of impacting the Vig's ability to get a shot off. I can't see scum bussing Chip. SK maybe...but not the last mafia.

So I do not like Elmo's game to this point (kind of the norm iirc) and I think Elmo is more likely to be the SK than the 3rd mafia.
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Post Post #727  (isolation #38)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:29 pm

In post 664, Not_Mafia wrote:I agree with lynching fitz

In post 718, Not_Mafia wrote:It's Mutant and Elmo

What changed? Assuming you no longer want to support a mislynch on me?
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Post Post #735  (isolation #39)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:36 pm

In post 733, Not_Mafia wrote:Translation: Mutant is Mafia immune Sk

You think Elmo unnecessarily bussed her last partner?
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Post Post #755  (isolation #40)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:34 pm

I was hoping to avoid claiming but on further review...and with my shot being neutered by the SK..I think a claim makes town's chances of hitting scum today improve a bit.

I'm the Vig.

N0 I targeted not_mafia because his playstyle annoys the hell out of me but I changed it to Jodaxq at the last moment. I second guessed the not_mafia choice based on a recently completed game with him that ended well for town. I looked over players and decided I could do without Jodaxq. I figured odds of hitting a town pr were pretty low (2:13)....that didn't work out.

N1 I shot Raya because I thought she was scum, and if not...potential LYLO lynchbait.

N2...I targeted Maxous for same reasons as Raya.

I say targeted for those nights that only had 2 kills as I do not know if my shot was allowed to go through due to switch considerations or if my targets were also targeted by someone else.

I'm town...I'm not the SK or mafia. I welcome the sk or mafia to counterclaim me because if they do....chances are the other scum entity will happily eliminate you N3 should I be today's lynch and we wind up in 3 player LYLO with 2 town and 1 scum. Also...I have no incentive to fakeclaim vig as the real vig could counterclaim and my game would be over.

So feel free to cc me :)

And A50...your vig skills recognition skills are shit. Unless you were setting up to claim vig yourself. Go ahead...see my previous points wrt to countering me.

VOTE: Elmo
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Post Post #763  (isolation #41)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:16 pm

Regardless of what Elmo flips...I don't plan on targetting amyone tonight. If I die...good luck town.
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Post Post #790  (isolation #42)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:34 pm

In post 789, mutantdevle wrote:Had any townie other than N_M (or possible sauce?) made it to day 4

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