Open 708: Pick Your Poison - Game Over

[TesXX]

Official Vote Count 3.4

Errantparabola

(4): CultOfAthena, Klick, mozamis, Beefster

Maxous

(2): Thor665, Errantparabola

CultOfAthena

(2): Flubbernugget, Maxous

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-02-22 18:44:22)

[TesXX]

Actually, I guess I'll give everyone an extra 12 hours because of Valentine's day.

[mozamis]

I have it on good authority that Klick is a legendary Lothario and definitely needs more time

[Klick]

Thank you. I was busy for Valentine's Day. Basically what moz said.

[Maxous]

Nope staying on Athena.
If Errant was scum Moz would of been lynched yesterday
He had an easy chance to push that through but decided to bus hid buddy instead?
Nah

[Thor665]

so Ep, once again, gets off the mislynch wagon and votes for someone who aint getting lynched. And I'm pretty sure I was his next suspect after Cult in his last big post? So the vote for Max is nonsense.
This guy is scum.
Someone hammer and we win.

That doesn't make any sense as a scumtell.

Because she only doubled on the EP tunnel and didn't even consider anyone else. I don't remember anyone else being so singular. Which at this stage of the game you should be weighing everyone against the dead scum and general reads. That's a blind tunnel at best..but I think it's just scummy.
EP wagon is dying and despite me having only one vote now, it's clear my lynch isn't off the table

I'm down to two and have been fairly singular on you despite claiming CoA as my second biggest read, and you aren't saying boo about me.
Moz has been even more singularly focused on EP.
Also this ignores that town tunnel all the time.
Also it ignores me asking what the heck her scum plan was.
Also it ignores that you *literally* just got done calling her scummy for starting to consider you as scum, and when I asked about that you then changed to she's scum for not considering other options.

You're moving goal posts.
That's scummy.

[Maxous]

I *have* talked about you and Moz and everyone else in relation to the flipped scum and wagons.
As for the latter half of that, I legit don't know how you came to that interpretation

[Beefster]

Nope staying on Athena.
If Errant was scum Moz would of been lynched yesterday
He had an easy chance to push that through but decided to bus hid buddy instead?
Nah

True. I think my switch to EP was impulsive and emotional.

VOTE: COA

[Beefster]

I need to finish this game before Earthbound Mafia starts so that I'm not in too many games...

[mozamis]

@ Max and Beef : look at the way he "bussed" Tex. He voted for her early - second vote on wagon. Nice and safe, bit of distancing, not gonna be a proper bus probably.
EP doesn't post much, remember. Then he thinks:" The moz wagon - maybe, lets see what happens, but probably stay clear of the mislycnh wagon, I'm nervous scum, remember?"
"Shit, the tex wagon has taken off, REALLY QUICKLY, do i move? Could get Moz through? No, I can't unvote tex now! When she flips scum that will look AWFUL! Shit. Ah well, keep my head down, get the town cred."
That's what almost certainly happened.

[mozamis]

@ Thor - your still OMGUSING me and its effecitng your judgement. Very recently, you were scum reading EP. You dont have to like me, you dont have to agree with my case on EP. But you do want to win the game, yeah?
Stop being emotional amnd vote EP for the reasons that you had very recently, and lets win this game.
And what i said DOES make sense as a scumtell - he was voting for Cult, and inhis last reads list said MOZ was his next choice as scum. And now he moves his vote from Cult to Max? That makes no sense. It's a fabricated read.

[mozamis]

I dont really understand peoples resistance to EP. All game he has 1)Been everyones suspect 2)Done fuck all, and still he lives?
C'mon people!

[mozamis]

Nope staying on Athena.
If Errant was scum Moz would of been lynched yesterday
He had an easy chance to push that through but decided to bus hid buddy instead?
Nah

EP is probably nervous scum - he dont post much. Sure,the good move would probably have been to lynch me. But if he is nervous he'll be thinking "Shit, I dont want to hammer the mislycnch. I'll stay on Tex instead, iits probably safe...oh shit, shes getting lynch, ok lets get the cred".
Scum dont always make the best move.
Though who knows, maybe he did, since people seem to be giving him the cred

[Thor665]

@ Thor - your still OMGUSING me and its effecitng your judgement. Very recently, you were scum reading EP. You dont have to like me, you dont have to agree with my case on EP. But you do want to win the game, yeah?
Stop being emotional amnd vote EP for the reasons that you had very recently, and lets win this game.

I very recently had reasons to vote you, lackwit.
Saying 'ooooh, emotions' doesn't actually do anything to affect the *reasons* I've changed my vote.
My "emotions" with you currently are mostly frustration with how you're playing - and I'm desperately attempting to communicate with you and I get 'oooooh, emotions!' as a rebutal to questions.


How about YOU stop playing emotionally and answer what's being asked of you?

And what i said DOES make sense as a scumtell - he was voting for Cult, and inhis last reads list said MOZ was his next choice as scum. And now he moves his vote from Cult to Max? That makes no sense. It's a fabricated read.

Why would he get off Cult if he's scum?
Why would he get off Cult to Max instead of Moz as scum?
It doesn't make sense.

I'll *agree* that I don't see driving town energy there. But that's totally different from it being a scumtell.
You're saying it's a scumtell because...? What? He changed his moind in a shitty fashion?
Beef does that every third post - you're not voting him.
So?

[Thor665]

I *have* talked about you and Moz and everyone else in relation to the flipped scum and wagons.
As for the latter half of that, I legit don't know how you came to that interpretation

The latter half makes a LOT of sense.
Here's our conversation;

Max: CoA is scum because look how easily she swayed off of EP to suspect me suddenly!
Thor: How is that scummy?
Max: Look at how tunneled she is on EP, she needs to consider other reads like town does!
Thor: You just got done claiming that her changing her reads was scummy.
Max: I legit don't know how you came to that interpretation!

Now that you know how I got there, can you explain the double standard and goal post moving you're doing?

[Thor665]

I need to finish this game before Earthbound Mafia starts so that I'm not in too many games...

I hope I never have to play with you again if you're town.

[Beefster]

I need to finish this game before Earthbound Mafia starts so that I'm not in too many games...

I hope I never have to play with you again if you're town.

A little harsh, don't you think? I've just overextended myself a bit is all. I'm sure I'll get better before you have to play with me again. I'm effectively a newbie because I took a 6 year hiatus.

[Flubbernugget]

What the fuck happened

[Flubbernugget]

Nope staying on Athena.
If Errant was scum Moz would of been lynched yesterday
He had an easy chance to push that through but decided to bus hid buddy instead?
Nah

This. There were two scum lynches in a row. There is significant reason to assume bussing isn't a thing atm.

[Beefster]

To all those not voting for COA, what do I have to do to convince you vote COA?

[Beefster]

Also, a stray thought:

Consider the possibility of Klick!Scum. He's pushed all 3 of the current wagons at different points IIRC. 3 mislynches are needed to win. If scum, he needs to make sure we're all thinking of 3 viable wagons. It's a bit of a stretch, but maybe worth considering.

Will check ISO.

[Beefster]

Nah. Never mind. Too much bussing if that were the case.

Klick is definitely town.

[Beefster]

Also, I don't think he's been on the Maxous wagon at all.

[Beefster]

Flubber is IC and is town by default
Klick and moz were on all the right wagons and thus are most likely town
Thor got the texcat wagon right at the last moment
I wasn't on either of the wagons, but I know I'm town.
EP would have been stupid to bus on D2 with 1 scum already down

We've POE'd down to 3 possible scum with 2 being probable.

At this point, unless we're going to second-guess the 4 probably-not-scum players, all we have to do is pick someone to lynch and roll with it. Even if your top scumpick isn't the same, we'll get to that player eventually.

[Flubbernugget]

Consider the possibility of Klick!Scum

Klick!scum made the world's stupidest fucking bus imaginable yesterday

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