FOR ARCHWING - ITS METAIn post 50, mozamis wrote:almost looks same as was when he was town.
so early provisional town read.
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Nah, Jay just has two different playstyles they switch between.In post 73, davesaz wrote:Wait, is that actually a hydra? I didn't really pay attention to the signup.ShowCheck my wiki for my meta.
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shit wrong thread
@ MOD - could you delete the above post? sorry.
Mod edit:Deleted.Last edited by numberQ on Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:19 am, edited 1 time in total.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...- JaydragonKing
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@Jay: Statistically speaking; the BEST way to avoid being lynched/NK'd in Mafia is to avoid PLAYING Mafia. NEVER has anyone NOT playing in a game been lynched/shot in said game.
Almost50 ---------- Town (if I didn't have my roe PM I wouldn't have been able to tell, tbh)
mozamis ---------- Town lean (Lots of content, but nothing superbly AI, and NOTHING SCUMMY so far)
Dunnstral --------- Null (Probably modding a game and doesn't have time for this game!)
Kotoko Utsugi ---- Null (I remember Dunn posted a question mark. I don't think this slot posted at all)
ShadeadMelee --- Null (see above)
Beefster ---------- Null (I remember the avatar more than anything they've posted)
JaydragonKing --- Town lean (Hard to be conclusive when I've never seen Scum!Jay, but I've seen Town!Jay before and it looks like this)
davesaz ---------- Town lean (Voice of reason. Always asks "strange" questions, but that's how he scum hunts)
momo ------------ Town lean (If this is also how he plays Scum he's bound to get caught sooner than later)
talon152 -------- Null (Not sure if they posted yet)
Raya36 ---------- Null (one day I'll be able to tell the difference between her Scum!lurking and her Town!lurking)
Assemblerotws - Null (Nice hat)
Archwing -------- Null (I know he's posting, but the only time he tried giving feedback it was "piggybacking" Jay's meta)
Suffice it to say we're into page 4 and all I have is a personal preference to the more active posters. THIS DOESN'T LOOK GOOD!
So, maybe it's time for some of my own crazy shit (this trademark is under the protection of the law. Do NOT redistribute without explicit authorization from the original shitter. This shit is hazardous, toxic, radiant and highly inflammable, and could cause serious damage to you leading to your lynch if used improperly.)
IF YOU WERE TO ROLL SCUM AND WAS GIVEN THE CHOICE TO PICK ONE PARTNER FROM THIS GAME PLAYER LIST, WHO WOULD THAT BE? EXPLAIN.
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Too many people on the list that I've never seen to make a properly informed choice.
I'd go with a talker though, so clearly not Dunnstral or Assemble. Probably Almost50 or Beefster. They won't get lynched for inactivity and if I had to bus there would be a way to make it seem reasonable.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord- numberQ
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Right now..if I were to choose a scum team from this list, I would proably take a50 and dave...they are both active, townread...trying to game solve (which could be faked within their playstyle), would have no prob bussing me (an expendable scum member) to stay strong...and are currently pretty widely townread.
For those asking about how I play scum... (WARNING: SELF_META....I AM TRYING YO BE HONEST) I haven't had a recent scum game..However as town, I am known for posting without thinking...I know that once, I have voted the previous days lynch (I corrected it in the next post but still)....As thoughts come, they get written down.
For scum, I haven't played in a while, but when I came back to this site, I bought a whiteboard to draft out ideas as scum....my posts will probably be more thought out.
I do this because I think it is the most valuable way to post for the different factions...For town, my posts may seem scummy, I may defend someone very hard, but it will always be because I believe it and I think that is what town needs.
As scum, I will put more thought because I need to hide, and that's just the way it will be.Transcend-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
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Spoiler: mozamis' iso and analysis
Okay so this is his entire iso...it's not blatantly scummy, but reading deeper, identifying the pocketing..now that's scummy...
I always say that scum makes the most mistakes in the beginning of the game...the poorly disguised pocketing is a mistake...jumped at the chance to pocket without helping town too early..he was not subtle about it...and that warrants a scum read
I also notice that he hasn't tried to pocket dave, the remaining active poster, because he knows dave plays too neutral for it to work, coinciding with scum and not just someone giving out town reads for activity.
VOTE: MozamisTranscend-BUT READING MOMO I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PLAYER THAT IF HE GOT PRESSURED AS TOWN HE WULD BE LIKE FUCK YALL AND MOVE ON WITH WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS DOING
Boonskies- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
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*Sigh*
Maybe you haven't paid enough attention, but I said NOTHING SCUMMY from moz so far. This indicates prior experience with him and his play being the same as his usual NAI play (I'm not sure I played Scum!moz before. If I did, please remind me with the game, moz).
My most recent game with him was this one. and if you ISO him there it's more or less similar to his play here (with the exception he had to be more cautious there bc we were Masons and only Masons could be shot, yet eventually he was the only Mason that did get shot).
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Now if you also ISO me in that game you probably will see why moz would have a Town lean on me here. It's not a pocketing/buddying attempt. It's a meta read based on the way I started that game and the game before (where I was also Town).
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@momo: By now you should know I do pay attention to WHY people TR me, even if they don't say it explicitly. If I can't find a convincing reason for the TR I would ask them for one, and if still unsatisfied I'd probably be suspicious of them.
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This and #84 look a little bit off to me. I don't really follow the logic.In post 83, momo wrote:Right now..if I were to choose a scum team from this list, I would proably take a50 and dave...they are both active, townread...trying to game solve (which could be faked within their playstyle), would have no prob bussing me (an expendable scum member) to stay strong...and are currently pretty widely townread.
For those asking about how I play scum... (WARNING: SELF_META....I AM TRYING YO BE HONEST) I haven't had a recent scum game..However as town, I am known for posting without thinking...I know that once, I have voted the previous days lynch (I corrected it in the next post but still)....As thoughts come, they get written down.
For scum, I haven't played in a while, but when I came back to this site, I bought a whiteboard to draft out ideas as scum....my posts will probably be more thought out.
I do this because I think it is the most valuable way to post for the different factions...For town, my posts may seem scummy, I may defend someone very hard, but it will always be because I believe it and I think that is what town needs.
As scum, I will put more thought because I need to hide, and that's just the way it will be.
Meta defense (when there's nothing to defend) is strange. It's almost like he's trying to WIFOM with the gambler's fallacy.
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Serious vote.On hiatus indefinitely. This was a nice distraction when I was working through my faith transition out of Mormonism, but I need to move on to bigger and better things now.
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And by gambler's fallacy, that would specifically refer to his "I haven't played scum in a while" priming the feeble human mind to expect him to be scum because humans inherently suck at statistics- triggering those of us who are aware of the gambler's fallacy to second guess ourselves. He's priming WIFOM.On hiatus indefinitely. This was a nice distraction when I was working through my faith transition out of Mormonism, but I need to move on to bigger and better things now.
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Or it could mean nothing. We'll see where this goes. I'm more bothered by the meta defense under no pressure thing.On hiatus indefinitely. This was a nice distraction when I was working through my faith transition out of Mormonism, but I need to move on to bigger and better things now.
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momo - just responding to your main points as i remember them:
1) I feel i have been as active in this game as my other ones? there hasn't been that much activity so far.
2) i always give out townreads early on, thats how i play i like to P.O.E as early as possible.
3) Almost is a meta read based on 2 (maybe more?) games in which he was town.
4) you and jay just look really town. you are being paranoid/suspicious, which is fair enough, but surely you must see how town jay looks?
5) i have never played with dave and have no meta on him. And in fact, out of the most active posters he is my only slight scum read. he seems to like discussing slightly theoretcial topics, which can be a scumtell. it's a very light read though.
my guess is most of the scummers have barely posted yet, that is quite normal.
It is early game, so we dont have to panic.
I'll put my money where my mouth is and
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in fairness to momo, someonr did ask him/query how he would play as scum, so it was fair enough for him to mention it.i think you are way off here beef, be amazed if momo was scum.In post 91, Beefster wrote:Or it could mean nothing. We'll see where this goes. I'm more bothered by the meta defense under no pressure thing.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...- mozamis
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buyt yeah i thinkwe all probably stressign over nothing atm - almost half the players arent psoting, and you can bet most of the non town players are amongst them.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...- JaydragonKing
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@moz / @Jay: You both posted after I did and didn't respond to the theoretical question I posed. Please pick your preferred scum partner if you were Scum and were given the option to choose a p. Thanks
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But choosing a partner means you cheated the system somehow. It's randomized by the Moderator.
But hypothetically, I'd choose one of the other active players, like Beef or Dave, since a few of you are already betting on most of the scum currently being lurkers and wouldn't expect them too be my scum partner as well. - JaydragonKing
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