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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:28 pm

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It IS a gambling themed Open... It's only right that the stars align perfectly for the Mafia.

I had a 50/50 shot in my guess by the way. Scum only picked one ability. Recruit Traitor.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:29 pm

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Yeah, I at least got the fact that you probably didn't have a JOAT from there , but that's all I was able to figure out from your power roles.

p-edit: yeah that's like the only one that makes sense to pick in this setup imo, and maybe daytalk.

So the PRs for town were vig/cop/bg, and you guys recruited the traitor.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:31 pm

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And you guys knew Sky was lying!town which is why you didn't believe his claim, sigh.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:36 pm

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And you guys knew Sky was lying!town which is why you didn't believe his claim, sigh.
True only if NSG is not scum ^__~

Which admittedly does not appear to be the case.

Ultimately it did not pay off and only served to get me lynched. So in hindsight it was a dumb move and I'm pretty disappointed. I honestly thought that if I framed it in such a way - that it wasn't a hard claim - that it would still have the strength of a gambit-guilty and I'd still be able to back out if it was wrong. Oh well.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:37 pm

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Actually

They would have known from my pressure on Not Mafia, probably. Activity from Jay/Montosh did not really appear until I was already hating there.

Sooooooo

I think probably NSG is the third scum. So the claim appeared legit until Lego counterclaimed. Is my guess. And that's when it fell apart.
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:38 pm

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Correct, Skitter,in the roles.

Fun Fact: I was randomly thinking between Goon Cop or Roleblocker Day one and "roleblocked" Espeonage or UnaBombaH day two. I made the right call both times.

Anytime so far my luck increases dramatically when Una is in a game with me.

First game ever I randomly picked the Cop on gut call even though Una made us kill someone elsa and he died because the Cop got him.

In our Normal 10p I literally claimed to have saw him commit the murder as a Tracker when he was a Ninja. Got called out for mistaking which kill the Vigilante made and ultimately lost that one.

Maybe it's the amount of people with Pokemon avatars instead. Both of those games had an even amount. This one had odd.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:38 pm

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Yeah I can't see it being anyone but NSG, skitter doesn't fit, srceen doesn't fit, don't think lego was fakelcaiming
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:41 pm

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I probably still would have pushed NSG/Screen/Not_Mafia scum team in the next day phase, even if we flipped scum!NSG today, so I'm not blaming Lego for this loss; I would have killed us in LYLO regardless this day phase or the next one if I was still around.
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:43 pm

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Another goes out...


Vote Count 3-4
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“Off with their heads!”
Lewis Carroll,
Alice in Wonderland[/color]


♥ Sky_Paladin (5)
(LYNCH)
: legoboyvdlp, skitter30, Not_Mafia, Montosh, JaydragonKing

♠ Not_Mafia (1)
: Sky_Paladin

♦ No Lynch (1)
: Srceenplay


♣ Not Voting (3)
: northsidegal

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.


Deadline: (expired on 2018-02-17 11:00:00)


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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:00 pm

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Day
3
Ends


I must say, three gentlemen at this table have absolutely made the house's night. More specifically, they've made my paycheck.

And
Sky_Paladin
? You're not one of them.

They say that it's all about how you play your cards. But sometimes? Well, sometimes the deck's stacked against you.

Spoiler: Sky_Paladin was
A
Vanilla Townie
!

I could let the game go on. But it's the end of my shift. You four can hand in your cards.

Spoiler: northsidegal was
A
Vanilla Townie
!

Spoiler: skitter30 was
A
Vanilla Townie
!

Spoiler: Srceenplay was
A
Vanilla Townie
!


You plan to arrest me? You know who owns the police department in this city, right? You can't touch us.

Spoiler: legoboyvdlp was
A
Goon Cop
!


A good game folks. For the ones who won. Congratulations,
JaydragonKing
,
Not_Mafia
, and
Montosh
. My kindest regards to your boss. Be sure to thank him for your patronage.

So much for "cheaters never prosper".


Mafia
"Cheaters"
Win!
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:02 pm

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Actions:

Pre-game:
Mafia selects Recruit Traitor

Creature is turned into a Mafia Goon.

Night 1:
Almost50 guards the worst
Espeonage shoots the worst
legoboyvdlp investigates Espeonage
Montosh shoots the worst

Almost50 dies.
legoboyvdlp gets result "Not a Goon".

Night 2:

Espeonage shoots UnaBombaH
Montosh shoots Espeonage
legoboyvdlp fails to submit a night action

UnaBombaH dies. Espeonage dies.

Mod PT
Mafia PT
Dead PT

Opening private topics now.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:08 pm

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Sky threw the game. Well done. We all worked out Jay was scum.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:09 pm

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However to his credit Jay played really well and everyone that realised only did so becayse they knew how many PRs there were.

Also I was shooting Montosh for a while and changed my target mid night.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:13 pm

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Sky threw the game.
I highly disagree, I pushed Not Mafia for the entire game and nobody cared. You could have shot him night 1, incidentally.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:13 pm

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Wtf was this game lol?
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:14 pm

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I was also getting some niggling doubts on NM in that he waited for me to vote tbh, but yeah, I didn't do anything about it lol, and then the twilight trolling confused the fuck out of me.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:15 pm

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More night actions on me next time! :lol:
Sorry anyone whose nose I knocked out of joint. Skitter & NSG you guys were absolutely terrific.

Jay your scumgame scares the fuck out of me!! How ambitious to claim on D1. Shame you hurt my feelings so we're not friends anymore.

N_M I was townreading you even when I knew you were not-not-mafia.

Overall really enjoyable game. Wp everyone and congrats scumteam! :]



I'd be interested to hear if anyone thinks I should have done something differently d1/d2 (but just curious)
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:18 pm

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I think probably scum MVP was Jay who pulled off an incredibly bold claim that completely blinded me. I didn't even consider the possibility that he might be scum until coming back from V/LA, and that seemed pretty far fetched. Montosh mainly lurked out, but Not_Mafia should have been dead by the start of day 2, and town deserved the loss after failing to capitalize on that scum quickhammer.

Town MVP probably is Skitter or NSG and it's hard for me to pick. Both of those players were actively trying to solve the game and not afraid to break heads. Skitter was looking at Montosh iirc and NSG was the only player publically (and correctly) questioning Jay.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:19 pm

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I thought you played really well considering. I was kinda worried that you were scum pocketing me or lego, but overall you were really really town. I don't really know if there was much you could have done day 2 tbh.

I just don't think you made much sense as a nk (or a vig kill or a bg protect) in that gamestate which is what majorly confused me day 2 because overall I thought you were town but you were soft-guiltied if A50 hadn't protected you, and I just didn't see him doing that (but he did ....)

Oh I just realized that I think jay scumslipped somewhere, give me a sec

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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:21 pm

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Actually nm lol

Anyway, good job scum team :)
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:21 pm

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First of all, thanks to everyone for making my first modded game a particularly enjoyable one. After the initial bout of standard D1 replacements, I barely had to prod anyone. And thanks for no drama and whatnot :P

Second of all, wow, what a game, well done to Jay, N_M, and Montosh for that perfect victory! I was sure Creature's slot was screwed, but Jay completely turning it around was fantastic. Montosh played great scum support; I think of the 3 he was most likely to get lynched if anyone, but he played townishly enough for there to always be better targets. N_M was hilarious through the game, but on D3 did amazingly in screwing up associations between the team. I think even with a mafia lynch today, the associations would've been muddled enough for a mafia win in LyLo.

I wouldn't say town even played THAT badly. Almost every townie had one mafia member nailed, and a lot of people did well at identifying bad lynches (Srceenplay for example). I think this was a case of a really good mafia team overpowering town. Town made a few crucial mistakes, of course:

- After A50's and mutant's deaths, town pretty much lost all cohesion. At a certain point, mafia stepped in and started running the town.

- In this case, while the worst's lynch was mechanically correct, people had still been townreading him. And while Jay's lynch would've been mechanically incorrect, there might've been enough scumreads of him to push it through. Watch out for mechanical decisions overpowering your reads.

- A speedy no lynch would've been the correct move today, as Jay would have 0 excuse for still being alive D4, and legoboy might not have had to reveal himself. Ironically, it was mainly scum pushing no-lynch.

- And of course different night actions could've turned the game around. Espe actually submitted a kill on Montosh before deciding Una was the mechanically correct shot :/. And A50 keeping himself alive D2 might've saved Espeonage. Who knows?
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:22 pm

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@Esp I really thought that I'd be the target that last night, what made you choose Una?
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:24 pm

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A speedy no lynch would've been the correct move today
I argue that a lynch of Not Mafia would have been the correct move, as Jay would have 0 excuse for still being alive D4, AND we'd be down a scum ^_~ But I would have trainwrecked us in the next day phase because I would have pushed hard for a Screen lynch :/
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:24 pm

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In post 1639, JaydragonKing wrote:You clearly underestimated my ability to not give a fuck about the odds and my will to live.
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To think I'm appearing so soon after my last victory.
But alas, I have fooled the masses yet again.
At least I had help from others besides Jay though.
Hope you enjoyed the show.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:25 pm

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I guess I kinda wish town was around a bit more because I felt like I was talking to myself a lot.

P-edit I was never going to let a screen lynch happen because his wagon compostion was gross the first time around and with flips it became even grosser.
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