Open 715 - White Flag Mafia (Game Over)

[CultOfAthena]

Good job COA, you pulled it off this time

Thank you! I'm not sure how much of this victory can really be attributed to my play, but I don't believe I was ever voted except by AG, so that has to count for something. Credit to AG and A50 for being wonderful scumbuddies.

[Mathdino]

Also, did anyone

really

expect scum to replace out of this game?

uhhhh... yes?

why should i expect town to lurk and flake out

[AnonymousGhost]

Facepalmed so hard on the timing of these posts.

My reaction...

[AnonymousGhost]

Also, did anyone

really

expect scum to replace out of this game?

I almost did.

Fitz town reading me changed my mind!

[Almost50]

I told you guys! This was NOT Town!AG.

I was also being honest when I said MoI wasn't shot precisely to push the lynch on fitz.

@MoI: Sorry for the fake irrupt of emotions. I couldn't have handled you on play skill alone.

@N_M: I swear it wasn't my decision to shoot you.

@Dino: You kind of cornered me from the start with that Shadpearl is locktown thing.

@Grey: SORRY!

And a shout out for my lovely -evil- lady partners. I wouldn't have wished for better "bad girls"

P-edit: Despite all the cursing and cussing I did in the scum PT I'm alright releasing it too.

[Mathdino]

idk the fact that neither A50 or CoA died after all that time would probably have been a red flag that they were the Sheas of this game if you will

[AnonymousGhost]

Shout out to my scum buddies!

Go A TEAM!

[GreyICE]

Almost and AG, well played indeed. One of my wife's pet peeves is when people go "the town played terribly" and use it to downplay the excellent job the scum did. Your shots were good, your play was good, you kept everyone under the radar. In a better town you'd still have had a good shot at victory.

That being said I made the choice to trust you both because I could live with one of you being scum, but if both of the best, most engaged, easiest to work with players were scum then the game was over. I said it multiple times and it was true. The town we had in LyLo could not have gotten two scum lynches. With one or both of you as town, it could have. I'm sad it didn't happen, but I'm happy I interacted with you.

Pine

- I'm glad I connected with you at the end despite the disaster of Bellaphant's game. You were in the same seat as me, and I think we both know that the better team won.

Quick Maker

- It's clear you love the English language. Unfortunately it's less

Pride and Prejudice

and more

The Story of O

. Good communication is clear, direct, and concise. Your posts were the opposite of this. Multiple times I would spend time dissecting long paragraphs to find the insight within was as shallow as it gets. I thought it was scum camouflage, but as town? This is something that posters like Titus and Mastina have been working past. Don't pontificate, post and interact.

The rest - you have a third the posts of the scum that won the game. You didn't work with the town, and we all lost together. It sucks. You might have an idea why.

Oh funny thing, my first scum game we mislynched Havingfitz day 1, and the moderator of the game was MagnaofIllusion. 8 years later, I replace in and MagnaofIllusion is lynching Havingfitz for playing like he did in brotherhood of the wolf. Now I want to say shame on MOI, but maybe there's a different problem too.

[AnonymousGhost]

@Grey - Same to you! I hope to play with you again someday! It was very fun!

[AnonymousGhost]

Shout out to my scum buddies!

Go A TEAM!

Adding onto this:

Big props for both of you for putting up with me being an argumentative and possibly very annoying scum buddy! XD

I wanted as much distance as possible between us if a wagon - specifically my wagon - flipped.

[RedFlavor]

Congrats mafia
I wasnt expecting this team honestly

[AnonymousGhost]

@Red - Who did you expect? I'm curious.

In hindsight, some of the things I did I was sure screamed scum i.e. that vote on Flubber.

[RedFlavor]

I did not really read after me die but I was expecting you, alch and one inactive person, def not almost50 and coa
Actually I would suspect them if it was lylo and they were still alive
Actually

[Almost50]

I did not really read after me die but I was expecting you, alch and one inactive person, def not almost50 and coa
Actually I would suspect them if it was lylo and they were still alive
Actually

This alone

is

good enough a reason for scum not to shoot me if they know I am not a PR.

Spoiler:

As a VT I'm pretty harmless. Even if I have better reads, I'd still need a Dino/Titus/Mastina kind of player to promote my views for me (provided they trust me in the first place). I would have added Cerb, except we never randed the same alignment except in dreal's latest cult game, and that didn't even have lynches.

Suffice it to say, I rarely ever get NK'd when I'm NOT a PR. he real question is how to tell if I'm a PR pretending to a VT, or a VT baiting the NK by playing as if I'm a PR.

I mean, seriously.. I was NK'd on N1 in the competition precisely bc a certain someone who is familiar with my play thought I was bluffing when I claimed VT. If they knew I was being honest I probably would have endgamed, and we would have still lost because I wouldn't have been able to push my case on bulba. Everyone would have brushed it off as personal vendetta because he was annoying me since the game started.

[Pine]

Yeah, scumteam did a fantastic job. The only one who was suspected widely at ALL was Anon, and she was no one's priority.

[Ranmaru]

Yeah so fuck this town. You can't win when all you have is lurking. Good job to Almost and AG

Don't worry, when I sign up for a geriatric, I'll alternate posts with someone and be as active as I can be.

[GreyICE]

We were so close to actually having a solve, too.

Meh, would we ever have worked out that Alchemist was town?

I mean yes, if you me and Magna were jamming around day 2 or something, but in LyLo? Just not gonna happen.

[Pine]

Yeah, that's true. Scumteam's got us.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Hey this ended.

Thanks for hosting Button. I think handling the amount of flakers and replacements made this a tough chore. I assume there was no Dead thread. I'd love to see the Mafia PT if it gets released and would play another Geriatric with you.

Congrats to scum team. You played collectively well. First blush is to say that Almost should be the game MVP as he evaded pretty much anyone having a scum read on him but me and garnered multiple strong Town reads from Town players. But I reserve the right to change my mind if Cult or Anon played a great PT game.

Town overall played pretty badly. I agree with Grey in saying "Screw it" to every Town player (Including my predecessors in the slot) who played passively.

I think the worst part of my play was getting locked on Having upon replacing in. I was right on Almost and his reactions to my suspicion and let myself get locked in on pressing the more abrasive player. There was a point Day 3 that I was throwing the ball for my dog and thought "You know that Having is just sitting there at L-1 for so long with nothing moving elsewhere may mean he's Town" but I handwaved it away as a demoralized scum team that was inactive. That said I'm not going to take too much crap about scum reading him. I cannot understand how lazy Having has gotten with his years of experience to not understand how White Flag works and to think No Lynching is Pro-Town. I also feel fairly good that my reads on Shad and QM were right early on. Cult probably is the scum I was least likely to catch and I attribute that to Miss List 2 hangover. No more of that my friend ... better step up your scum game because lowkey lurking is never going to slide by me again.

[AxleGreaser]

It was an interesting game to read along with.
Congrats to the winners well earned, commiserations to the losers.

[AnonymousGhost]

Here's the link to the Scum PT. All three of us have signed off on releasing it. It's not been made public yet, but here it is in advanced.

[AnonymousGhost]

I think the worst part of my play was getting locked on Having upon replacing in.

To be fair, you did nail me as scum after I white knight'd the shit out of Fitz.

At that point - the one were I made the shitty red herring attempt by comparing Fitz's slip with Pine's -, I probably said "screw it," and jumped in feet first with defending Fitz.

My primary aim, at that point, was distracting the town and allowing my buddies to sneak by undetected. Like I said in the scum PT, it wasn't my goal to get universally town read - all I had to settle on is having enough townies reading me as town (plus my buddies) in order to avoid eating a lynch. And it worked - sorta.

I really couldn't ignore Athena's pop onto the Fitz wagon since that's a scum indicator that I almost always use, but I was also afraid of eating a lynch and not having established enough distance between my buddies. So, laying down that final vote on D3 was killing two birds with one stone. :3

[Quick Maker]

AG is pretty damn competent in the Scum category. Might be time to get to that Scummy I have been looking to do.

[AnonymousGhost]

@QM - To be fair, my scum game has had a steep learning curve. Claimed bomb my first scum game. Haha. That blew up in my face. Literally.

[LicketyQuickety]

Ego.