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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:43 pm

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this alone was a mood
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:46 pm

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lol poor mylo <3
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:26 pm

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The game has drawn to a close, the jig is up! The town have lost, but others have won!

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Best Mafia Catcher
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:54 pm

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Wait what
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:56 pm

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Oh I got lynched.

Gg mafia. You were just. Better. A lot better.
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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:58 pm

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<3 :(
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:00 pm

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In post 2723, Katyusha wrote:Katy/Ico/Dave

A50 and simyk had a falling out in the scum pt hence the replace out

rc/alban had similar interactions lmao
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:41 pm

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Ach, I played bad this game.
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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:46 pm

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Idk. Not sure what to learn from this one. Not "follow own reads more", because even if that puts taly and eddie in the poe I just tunnel ausuka more.
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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:48 pm

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be more active

don't aggressively give up at people

you were obvtown but only to good townhunters

you otherwise had uncharacteristically low charisma this game
like you seem to have more charisma as scum because you're more aware of how you're perceived
see if you can coopt that skill for your towngame
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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:18 pm

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I'd have never guessed that scumteam what the fuck

I did atrocious here but yet this was one of the most fun games I've every played, until D3 where I genuinely lost interest
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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:24 pm

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In post 2859, Mathdino wrote:be more active

don't aggressively give up at people

you were obvtown but only to good townhunters

you otherwise had uncharacteristically low charisma this game
like you seem to have more charisma as scum because you're more aware of how you're perceived
see if you can coopt that skill for your towngame
I guess I missed too much of early game.
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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:13 pm

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Gg wp everyone. Fun game for me. I was on kat and symik at the dnd of prev day, but it would not have been enough at all.

Nice playing with you all.

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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:30 am

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In post 2823, Mathdino wrote:Like it's actually straight up ridiculous that scum got 2/3 PRs while town ended up with
- Cop
- 1-shot Vig
- Neighborizer (a nothing role!)
- Jailkeeper

The setup was scumsided but this is the one setup where the balance is dependent on how well town/scum plays pre-game.
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- Vig, Role Cop, Cop, Jailkeeper, Neighborizer
(6 VT)

VS
Scum
- RB, Venge
(1 Goon)


I'd argue this was townsided; there was SO many things that could've gone wrong for scum in hindsight, we weren't townblocc'ed.

That quickhammer was our only hope for all of us surviving, honestly.
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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:31 am

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1-shot vig + you knew who the PRs were. Not really townsided I'd think? Doesn't really matter though.
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:35 am

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We didn't know until the claims happened, or the crumbing :P

Plus, if
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vigged scum N1, if
the worst
JKed me N1, if
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survived past D2, if
Iconeum
were conf'ed as a Cop-IC, and if
Kats
were lynched ANYTIME before D4 - the scum could've easily lost.

That's just my thinking.
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:36 am

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Hmm... I'd say it's more completely balanced in hindsight though?
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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:39 am

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In post 2865, Taly wrote:We didn't know until the claims happened, or the crumbing :P
Well, I mean, you did? The people high on the draft were easy PR NKs.
In post 2865, Taly wrote: Plus, if
Math
vigged scum N1, if
the worst
JKed me N1, if
Lalendra
survived past D2, if
Iconeum
were conf'ed as a Cop-IC, and if
Kats
were lynched ANYTIME before D4 - the scum could've easily lost.
Well yeah but that would have involved better town play and/or worse scumplay so it makes sense that scum win isn't 100%. I think you still win in most of these secnarios.
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:26 am

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In post 2863, Taly wrote:
In post 2823, Mathdino wrote:Like it's actually straight up ridiculous that scum got 2/3 PRs while town ended up with
- Cop
- 1-shot Vig
- Neighborizer (a nothing role!)
- Jailkeeper

The setup was scumsided but this is the one setup where the balance is dependent on how well town/scum plays pre-game.
Town
- Vig, Role Cop, Cop, Jailkeeper, Neighborizer
(6 VT)

VS
Scum
- RB, Venge
(1 Goon)


I'd argue this was townsided; there was SO many things that could've gone wrong for scum in hindsight, we weren't townblocc'ed.

That quickhammer was our only hope for all of us surviving, honestly.
1-Shot Vig is nearly useless with a scum vengeful in the setup.
Cop is strong.
Jailkeeper is moderately strong.
Neighborizer is weak.
Role Cop can basically get a guilty on a RBer and find fakeclaims, but it isn't very useful for innos, so it is moderately weak.
Roleblocker is extremely strong for scum.
Vengeful is moderately strong for scum esp. since it isn't disabled in LyLo.

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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:40 am

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the setup pyp xy is townsided but this was a particularly scumsided iteration
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:30 pm

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In post 2865, Taly wrote:if the worst JKed me N1
oh yeah this was fun
n1 I was 100% gonna jail eddie
then Math said I was gonna jail eddie
so I was gonna a 1d3 to decide who to jail out of literally {Taly, Eddie, SIMYK}
but jailing Eddie seemed deeply redundant since Math had literally said I was going to so I subbed him out for dave on a gut-based whim.
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:44 am

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scum won on a dice roll is basically your point LMFAO

though honestly when the JK is such an obvious n1 kill i would have just gone offensively here, i'm assuming taly/eddie/simyk was a defensive pool?
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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:46 am

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Town won the draft
They just threw the role picking
Role cop over universal backup was kind of a throw
As was no one picking doc/rb, watcher, or n3 vig
The setup is townsided because it's not difficult to break when there's enough diversity

The picks made this impossible to mechanically solve
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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:52 am

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rolecop could seriously hurt a scumteam that wins roles in the draft, i wouldn't go to say it's a throw but i agree UB is better almost every time
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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:58 am

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Actually now that I think about it what the balls was town thinking

Lalendra confirmed Iconeum was a cop
The lylo lynch should have always been either Icon or a potential roleblocker, simyk
Scum wouldn't try for roleblocker at the bottom of the draft

Ircher had the ability to townclear himself

I would've understood Ausuka getting lynched in 5p but you guys could've BoPd Eddie off his bad read on simyk

Aaaand then you would've lost because vengeful
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