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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:15 am
by Not_Mafia
I saw L-1, read his iso and decided it was worth hammering

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:45 am
by teacher
Ok. Dayvig Oxy? RuRu to heaven?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:07 am
by Invisibility
teacher there is no Dayvig

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:52 am
by Invisibility
i think you're overthinking it

also Hiraki ruru is conftown because she didn't self hammer

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:06 am
by Invisibility
In post 374, teacher wrote: Invisibility: What do you think about duckling's vote park on you? Can you explain your progression on RuRu?
I don't think that the first question is very helpful now that we know his flip. also I thought that ruru was town after she stopped doing that weird miller thing and started contributing.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:28 am
by AP
In post 374, teacher wrote:AP: You were active enough. Why no vote? Whose your scummiest now?
?? I thought I was voting ruru already. Also we're not voting the scummiest here. We're voting for a townie to go to Heaven.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:31 am
by AP
In post 378, Invisibility wrote:also Hiraki ruru is conftown because she didn't self hammer
Yeah, I guess.. I still can't shake my first -FAULTY- impression that the game was flipless, and it's affecting my reads on the mechanics.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:05 am
by RC most awesomest
Can we please just hammer and move on thank you

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:13 am
by teacher
In post 377, Invisibility wrote:teacher there is no Dayvig
I was asking about the style of this.
In post 11, Not_Mafia wrote:
Dayvig Oxi
In post 380, AP wrote:In post 374, teacher wrote:
AP: You were active enough. Why no vote? Whose your scummiest now?


?? I thought I was voting ruru already. Also we're not voting the scummiest here.
You are now voting (D2). Im asking why you didnt vote D1. Im also trying to get you to share information before D3. Basically, I want more from your spot, so am trying to force reads.
In post 378, Invisibility wrote:ruru is conftown because she didn't self hammer
Agree. I will vote there in 24 life hours. Just trying to get some game advancing info in the mean time.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:17 am
by RC most awesomest
In post 134, UglyDuck wrote:Also I am going to half OMGUS / half based on merit vote:

VOTE: Invisibility
In post 159, Invisibility wrote:
In post 134, UglyDuck wrote:Also I am going to half OMGUS / half based on merit vote:

VOTE: Invisibility
wait what the crap i didn't vote you
Like this is bad. vote felt like a TMI vote on a buddy and the lack of immediate response into him addressing a whole bunch of other stuff is weird.
Invis doesn't have to be scum or town but this is really bad and I don't understand why so many people have this as top townread atm.

particularly over Ruru who bleeds obvtown even if her reads aren't necessarily the greatest

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 am
by Not_Mafia
@mod VC please

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:27 am
by RC most awesomest
Ruru is at L-2

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:29 am
by Not_Mafia
Someone vote ruru

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:29 am
by AP
@teacher: I already gave my reads, and even the change in them.

At the start of the day I was leaning 1 scum was bussing. In my mind, that was either ruru or N_M. ruru not hammering herself today makes her more likely town, so IF there was a bus it's probably N_M

Off the wagon I'm most suspicious of Oxy (now Hiraki).

I'm still of the opinion I should be the one sent to heaven today because it removes a confusing slot. The way I look at it is if I was scum then that means that Mafia can't achieve parity on D2 or even D3 in the main thread, so the town is in full control.

But since I'm Town; my removal clears the air for some slots (those who think I'm a hard read and ruru who is explicitly SRing me). Either way we are guaranteed majority in Heaven now, since a scumster was already sent to Hell. The earlier parity condition chance would be when there are 4 players left alive, which means 2 TOWN players are sent to Heaven and 2 others sent to Hell in the next 4 phases.

Others are not seeing it my way because they don't know my alignment, and I fully understand that. If I'm scum that would put the town on a very delicate situation in the next Heaven phase because 2 scums in Heaven = Scum win. That's why I'm not pushing my view too hard today because we can still win the other way around, so it's not worth the fuss.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:41 am
by Not_Mafia
A50 vote ruru

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:48 am
by RC most awesomest
wait is it possible that NM could be trying to get ruru to l-1 so he can quickhammer

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:58 am
by AP
In post 390, RC most awesomest wrote:wait is it possible that NM could be trying to get ruru to l-1 so he can quickhammer
She was @L-1 before teacher unvoted (or was it invisibility that unvoted? I'm REALLY lazy with this slow internet connection)

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:01 am
by Hiraki
Unvote, Vote: Ruru


All yours, Kain.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:16 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 391, AP wrote:
In post 390, RC most awesomest wrote:wait is it possible that NM could be trying to get ruru to l-1 so he can quickhammer
She was @L-1 before teacher unvoted (or was it invisibility that unvoted? I'm REALLY lazy with this slow internet connection)
I wasn't online

VOTE: ruru

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:21 am
by RC most awesomest
fuck i didn't expect that

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:24 am
by teacher
Eh, could be an effort to gain towncred when I’ve declared intent. I’m PoE (Hiraki invis AP) tomorrow, with an initial pref still for Hiraki preflip.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:36 am
by Hiraki
Teacher is town this game btw.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:36 am
by Hiraki
My read on RC has detoriated within the last page.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:37 am
by RC most awesomest
You were aware that I was being sarcastic, correct?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:40 am
by Hiraki
Your last post isn't the bad one.