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Post Post #381 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:08 pm

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Aye this playerlist is lit AF.

That’s literally the reason I joined even though schools starting.

Driving home from the airport, so will maybe do stuff later
(Or just meme with teh wurst and tora)
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Post Post #386 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:06 pm

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In post 384, the worst wrote:HI ERAGON
first thing I had check was to make sure I didnt want roast duckling.

Your fine for now. :3

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Post Post #396 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:15 pm

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umm...

i probably wont be able to do anything before the deadline...

so ill catchup(maybe) during the next day and maybe be around for some idle chatter/direct question talk stuff.
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Post Post #415 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:30 am

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Welp, im awake my dudes(even though it doesnt matter[yee-haw]) and on a quick ISO scan(read: 1 minute read through) of both sesq and volxen.

I want some of what Sesq is smokin

and Volxen's ISO is a total pain to read and way too long.

yippee.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:39 am

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their entire slot or just them?
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Post Post #419 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:48 am

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Irrelephant11 wrote:we've got a couple hours might as well use 'em

Anyone else around?

@Huntress, what would you say if I told you scummy word choices were a reason to townread Keyser?

pedit: whatever you're thinking

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i mean, there 4 posts dont really have much to read off, tbh id read them more off the flips.

If volxen is town then i might look at them/sesq a bit more, but if Volxen is mafia i think huntress is going to be quite towny.
i know bussing is a possibility, but how easy is it to just come in, state intent to hammer, and vote sesq?
Instead, they came into the thread, gave a few starting reads, then said they dont want a sesq lynch and voted Keyzer.
then said they're fine with volxen, but preferably not sesq, so more defending sesq, who was at (L-1 was it?) and a few more reads.

so if i had to make a read right now i think id give them a town lean for their posts
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Post Post #422 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:52 am

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ISO scan/skim
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Post Post #423 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:53 am

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not really much, but i just read through it and dont want them lynched yet
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Post Post #425 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:58 am

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Does the last sentence feel forced to anyone else, or am i just mis-interpreting it?

"in the end, i realized i was the person to blame for all this mess" feels forced, like "i accept responsibility but in the most silver-tongued way possible"


"he is no longer a threat but a teammate" like, ive actually never seen anyone say this. "he isnt a threat now, hes a teammate"

i could be reading much to deep/wrong/could just be how keyser posts.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:58 am

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In post 424, Keyser Söze wrote: [snip]


In the end, I realised I was the person to blame for all this fluff/mess, so those scum-feels slowly faded. Reundo has since then been sharing thoughts I too share, so he has redeemed himself IMO, and is no longer a threat but a teammate.

damn page tops messing up "the last sentence" stuff.

and this is why you should always quote things

^above is said last sentence
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Post Post #432 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:09 am

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In post 429, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 425, Eragon wrote:Does the last sentence feel forced to anyone else, or am i just mis-interpreting it?

"in the end, i realized i was the person to blame for all this mess" feels forced, like "i accept responsibility but in the most silver-tongued way possible"


"he is no longer a threat but a teammate" like, ive actually never seen anyone say this. "he isnt a threat now, hes a teammate"

i could be reading much to deep/wrong/could just be how keyser posts.
Take whatever I say as how I feel :giggle:



Please no quick hammer people too.
Otherwise I am out.
now im confused :cry:

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Post Post #435 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:15 am

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erm. I would ask you this
1. what is meant by scummy word choices? Buzz words like "LAMIST" and "Chainsaw" and stuff like that, or just posting style like what i pointed out.

and if you responded "Buzz words" i would ask
1a. why should i townread someone for calling other people out and using buzzwords trying to act like they have a good case

and if you responded posting style, i would probably say
1b. im not sure i can see it as a reason to townread someone in itself, but i definitely could see it not being scummy. so basically just null IMO
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Post Post #436 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:16 am

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AWWW NO HAMMER MEANS NO HAMMER TIME/THOR GIFS
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Post Post #439 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:36 am

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sorry if this isnt what you meant, but why dont you want to get involved in arguments that could reveal AI things?

isnt that the point of playing the game, to talk/argue/discuss/find AI things/lynch scum?
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Post Post #441 (isolation #14) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:41 am

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OOOOOO i understand now.

"i dont want to get invloved in ending arguments"

i read this as honestly i dont know why, ending arguments, like finishing an argument that gives you AI stuff(dont ask me why) and you didnt want to be in those.

instead of

"i dont want to be in ENDING arguements, like...stopping an argument.

(dont judge plez)
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Post Post #444 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:57 am

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Heading to class.

Should be able to hop on for a second before deadline at break, so fire away :3

(No promises)
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Post Post #491 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:29 am

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Literally the only play is to kill volxen.

If we lynch him and he’s watcher, then someone else takes his place and we get their results N1

If we lynch him and he’s scum, GREAT!

If we don’t lynch him and he’s watcher, and he’s town, he dies tonight and we don’t get results for N1

If we don’t lynch him and he’s scum, we’ll then we lynch him tommorow, which is a day later than we should
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Post Post #492 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:29 am

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No matter what volxen flips he’s always the lynch
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Post Post #494 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:30 am

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There’s literally no other play that gives us value
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Post Post #496 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:32 am

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No, becuase if we lynch someone else and volxen is watcher, scum will NK them and we won’t have a chance of watcher catching scum
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Post Post #498 (isolation #20) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:36 am

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Ok, I guess I see that.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #21) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:37 am

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Duck drank duck happy juice? Was it watered down pond bread?
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Post Post #503 (isolation #22) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:38 am

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(Next 2 classes coming up in a few minutes so won’t be back by deadline. Hopefully will have time during night to do some ISO’s. If not... blame life plz)
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Post Post #519 (isolation #23) » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:42 am

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In post 500, the worst wrote::ok_hand:
red flip d1 feels good man

drunk ducky gonna slep now gngn
I think this is actually TMI, because he was already like “red flip Day 1 feels good”

I mean, town never KNOWS that the person is scum unless a TI has a guilty, but TW acted like he KNEW volxen was scum, not HOPING that volxen was scum and not actually watcher.
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Post Post #520 (isolation #24) » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:43 am

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Back to class I go, cya in an hour
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Post Post #566 (isolation #25) » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:48 am

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In post 553, the worst wrote:my skin is crawling... I have goosebumps.... what's happening?
Duck worms?

Ants?

Call 188-231-4321 for immediate veterinarian service for you sick or injured cat, dog, duck, or other animal

(Will post later on mobile now)
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Post Post #591 (isolation #26) » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:10 pm

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Nauci town; Cats FTW!!!!!!!
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Post Post #593 (isolation #27) » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:19 pm

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19999999999999% confirmed town{Nauci}
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{Irrelephant, The worst, Keyser}
{toranaga, nauci}
{Ausuka, NSG}
{dunnstral, Reundo}


right now Im not very confident on the reads themselves, because I haven't had ISO dive time yet.
Basically this is just the strength of my reads, so the top bracket is my strongest town reads(but not, like, confirmed town, or "IMO never ever flips scum town")
second is town reads, but could sort of go either way
Ausuka and NSG are basically null
And dunn and Reundo are both small scum reads, but not very confident in them
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Post Post #594 (isolation #28) » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:25 pm

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ill explain things/go more in depth/re-order/do stuff later if I have time
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Post Post #705 (isolation #29) » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:28 am

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Ok it’s the weekend bt im golfing rn

Expect (hopefully) activity in about 7 hours when I’m back home.

Then I might actually do stuff. YAY!
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Post Post #731 (isolation #30) » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:41 pm

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Quack Quack tora QUACK quack quack quality Ausuka QuAcK NSG!

Quack translator Quack Worst Quackity?
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Post Post #733 (isolation #31) » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:46 pm

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In post 731, Eragon wrote:Quack Quack tora QUACK quack quack quality Ausuka QuAcK NSG!

Quack translator Quack Worst Quackity?
wanted the duck translator here, but I am basically saying ima ISO Tora and Ausuka, then if I have time NSG.

IS translator worst here?
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Post Post #799 (isolation #32) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:30 am

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oh my god im the most awesomest FM player ever(complete /s)

i definitley didnt fall asleep at my desk, wake up and shut down my computer, losing all the open windows, then went to my golf tournement and forgot about everything.

Truly, none of this actually happened. (/s)
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Post Post #800 (isolation #33) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:32 am

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well, i think i caught up on
some
sleep over the weekend and HW is mostly done so i should be able to do things rn on the bus :3
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Post Post #801 (isolation #34) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:32 am

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Pageget

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Post Post #805 (isolation #35) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:05 am

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In post 802, the worst wrote:uhhh why is era's shameless prodging pinging me as towny
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im maybe doing stuff in the next hour.
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Post Post #806 (isolation #36) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:07 am

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and then i read that Toranaga has 101 posts...

nope!

onto Ausuka
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Post Post #807 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:24 am

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this is only their third post of the game and they already have p.much a full readlist and things on everyone that they can. Then gives a wishy washy read on Sesq saying they are probably TWTBAW, which I normally find is scum trying to WK town and because they know someone is town. Talks about Keyser active scumhunting, which is kinda NAI because anyone can “scumhunt” first one I see they think is scummy is Volxen, which is a read of “his contributions are kind of active lurking,” like… “What?” This almost seems like an attempt for early towncred if volxen flips. Seems kinda ehh about irrelephant TR’ing NSG for “game-solvey” but they themselves talked about Keyser genuinely Scumhunting.

hrmmm looking above their SR on Reundo is pretty much entrance comments so this is an ok vote and keeps In touch with their reads. But the “ugh thanks, I forgot” seemed kinda forced.
not just this but another before this, they’re talking a LOT about 2.718 and slight defending him with their posts. I dont think this means much as their slot flipped town, but it could be pocketing/towncred
“im awful at finding scum but ill try”
You have been trying
Whose to say your awful?
To me this reads as a reason to actually not find scum, by deprecating yourself and saying your bad at scum hunting

where did this naked vote come from??
and this kinda-naked vote after saying you like them as a TR, but you come back with saying its a shitread and voting them…

nothing really bad here, but somehow they already think they have the game to 3 scum out of 6 players? Which seems overconfident to me, and they said they dont normally have confidence in 202
this is now the third time naked voting Volxen, although at least they had reasoning for the SR.
in the mindset of an Ausuka/volxen team “Do we risk the flip or can we change?”



this is their D1 ISO that i got and im getting the impression they are probably scum
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Post Post #808 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:24 am

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ill do the rest later but i aint got time for this rn
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Post Post #810 (isolation #39) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:29 am

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In post 166, Toranaga wrote:volxen/sesq/271 all fine lynches
In post 402, Toranaga wrote:
In post 399, the worst wrote:hot take: we need to hammer Sesq who will do nothing to defend themselves or flashwagon volxen who is one rung townier and will become extremely obvious later if scum

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VOTE: volxen

volxen made a lot of scumsplaining and description posts that added no leans and didn't help the game move forward. I think he has a bigger chance of being scum than sesq who is probably kind of... incoherent? regardless of what they rand.

i dont see how this is any worse than an RvS vote on volxen, a naked vote on volxen, a little explanation, and then another vote on volxen
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Post Post #813 (isolation #40) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:33 am

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In post 811, the worst wrote:funny, I would scumread myself over that but I actually think it's less partner indicative from Tor. I would have comfortably seen d1 out without that cw ever even forming if he hadn't posted so quickly lol.
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Post Post #840 (isolation #41) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:01 am

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In post 839, the worst wrote:I'm waiting for some stuffs before I fully readlist with pretty brackets and everything
pretty :cop:
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Post Post #843 (isolation #42) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:15 am

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why do you think im town because i voted with flipped scum on flipped town?
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Post Post #846 (isolation #43) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:59 pm

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BAH.

do i just trust the single SR i have or do i run myself down and try to find someone else
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Post Post #848 (isolation #44) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:43 pm

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Post Post #849 (isolation #45) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:45 pm

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In post 847, Dunnstral wrote:Are you sring Not Voting?
wut are you tryna say here?
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Post Post #850 (isolation #46) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:58 pm

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In post 814, northsidegal wrote:
In post 798, Irrelephant11 wrote:Okay hi great I'm catching up what do you think of Tora rn?
not exactly townreading him but don't have all that specific reasons to scumread him either. waiting on his explanation for his dunn read
In post 799, Eragon wrote:oh my god im the most awesomest FM player ever(complete /s)

i definitley didnt fall asleep at my desk, wake up and shut down my computer, losing all the open windows, then went to my golf tournement and forgot about everything.

Truly, none of this actually happened. (/s)
how did your golf tournament go?
pretty good actually, shot 3 over and got 4th place :3
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Post Post #854 (isolation #47) » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:29 pm

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In post 853, northsidegal wrote:
In post 847, Dunnstral wrote:Are you sring Not Voting?
"wolfy pop-in"

-ruby red, 2018
In post 850, Eragon wrote:pretty good actually, shot 3 over and got 4th place :3
congratulations! you're much better than i am
thanks :3

thats what i get for playing since i was like 5 y'know lol
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Post Post #863 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:43 am

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In post 858, Toranaga wrote:to start with irrelephant townreading my volxen vote and then scumreading my annoyingly confident tone

if this guy flips scum I can't mafia

hold me to this post
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In post 859, Toranaga wrote:keyser/duckling always town too, right?

I hope so
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In post 860, Toranaga wrote:kop/eragon is a very spicy spot indeed

the worst was talking about a world where both dunnstall and ausuka were town and it's a scary proposition but I'm gonna randomly guess that means kop is scum everytime and I'll be right too
dunn and ausuka are never both town IMO.
i mean, i know it might seem like im doing this because you said if their both town, then im scum, but as you could tell i had a SR on ausuka earlier and dunn was kinda skim SR, but not strong, so im confident that both my SR's arent wrong, i could definitely see 1 being town though.
In post 861, Toranaga wrote:like if both ausuka and dunn are town, where do we even go, right

we go kop/eragon

I don't remember a single eragon post now that I think about it
is it my avatar? 0.0
becuase i have a post <5 posts above yours
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Post Post #865 (isolation #49) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:44 am

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In post 862, Toranaga wrote:
In post 381, Eragon wrote:Aye this playerlist is lit AF.

That’s literally the reason I joined even though schools starting.

Driving home from the airport, so will maybe do stuff later
(Or just meme with teh wurst and tora)
I can't believe we're doing this for over a week and I haven't even meme'd with you yet

oh btw I was thinking of running 48/24 games here, with plurality lynch w/o maj on d1 and then plurality w maj from d2+. it's much faster than games on MS normally are but honestly a lot of games here are fucking dead so it'd be nice to try something different for a change.
oo.

sounds fun, but depends on the size of the playerlist, because im used to 72 or 96 hr days
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Post Post #867 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:45 am

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In post 864, Toranaga wrote:
In post 419, Eragon wrote:
Irrelephant11 wrote:we've got a couple hours might as well use 'em

Anyone else around?

@Huntress, what would you say if I told you scummy word choices were a reason to townread Keyser?

pedit: whatever you're thinking

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i mean, there 4 posts dont really have much to read off, tbh id read them more off the flips.

If volxen is town then i might look at them/sesq a bit more, but if Volxen is mafia i think huntress is going to be quite towny.
i know bussing is a possibility, but how easy is it to just come in, state intent to hammer, and vote sesq?
Instead, they came into the thread, gave a few starting reads, then said they dont want a sesq lynch and voted Keyzer.
then said they're fine with volxen, but preferably not sesq, so more defending sesq, who was at (L-1 was it?) and a few more reads.

so if i had to make a read right now i think id give them a town lean for their posts
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Post Post #868 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:46 am

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In post 866, Toranaga wrote:
yeah I'm not reading your ISO now

ok guys, I tried solving, you saw

I can't really mafia on MS lol
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Post Post #871 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:47 am

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In post 869, Toranaga wrote:eragon you'd like those games I'm sure. it really fits your style.

I can't really mafia on MS like this cause I need to interact with people in real time and there's almost nobody on when I'm on and I can't just talk to myself like this.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvs68OKOquM[/youtube]
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Post Post #872 (isolation #53) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:48 am

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why...

can i not show youtube ;_;
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Post Post #875 (isolation #54) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:51 am

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http://www.simpleimageresizer.com/_uplo ... _hq_99.gif


the avatar...
I have ASCENDED

from Cute kitty cat to the Evil side!

(i cant figure out how to get this gif to show up so deal with the link)

p-edit: thanks :3
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Post Post #879 (isolation #55) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:54 am

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probably town, i'll give more explanation later but right off the bat the fact that scum was the counter-wagon either means that Sesq was also scum and we changed from scum -> scum or sesq/nauci is town and becuase scum felt comfortable on sesq, the counterwagon was townlead and Sesq is town
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Post Post #880 (isolation #56) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:55 am

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In post 874, Toranaga wrote:[snip]

ok I think eragon is town
who will i fight against if everyone thinks im town ;_;
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Post Post #883 (isolation #57) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:59 am

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In post 881, Keyser Söze wrote:@Evil Eragon

Before you post one more gif you must vote
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Well I’ll probsbly iso Dunn and place a vote between Ausuka/maybe Dunn/maybe NSG(but probably not) after scum op
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Post Post #885 (isolation #58) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:00 am

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Bye
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Post Post #920 (isolation #59) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:02 pm

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In post 910, Irrelephant11 wrote:@ Reundo/Nauci/Eragon/the worst

You should put your votes on one of the two leading wagons or NSG
Especially Eragon/the worst should
VOTE: Ausuka

ill probably maybe do stuff tommorow but from what i've actually read of the thread i feel the most confident in this
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Post Post #921 (isolation #60) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:03 pm

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Also @Nauci what do you mean by "very little read on e?"
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Post Post #923 (isolation #61) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:26 pm

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In post 922, the worst wrote:
In post 919, northsidegal wrote:for the record i'm still pretty null on nauci
Nauci is in this game?

I'm fully not joking when I say I'm pretty sure this is how the Nauci I know would play scum :lol:

and I'm not gaslighting
and I'm not poking her into vomiting content

I'm just nervous
In post 917, Nauci wrote:
Spoiler: word vomit of reactions and feelings from reading the first 200 posts
-GameNBurger’s math posts are funny. This setup is very obvious: claim if you’ve seen something, or don’t claim otherwise because dying w/ no results is mostly meaningless because someone else takes over, ya? And not seeing anyone not visit doesn’t green check? And there’s no reason to ever hold on to a red check because someone else takes over when the watcher is shot.

-NSG’s 27 is awesome. I’ve never even thought of it like that: questioning someone’s townread on me for bad premises seemed natural but yeah, it totally is counter productive unless it’s because it’s scum-motivated, like if TW town reads me from now on so as not to instigate the wrath I’m apparently capable of with 1600 word posts dunking on him

-Something about Keyser’s page 1/2 posts feel like they come from a scum-making-town-sounding-posts POV… Like Keyser is perfectly capable of asking poignant questions that sound productive early in day 1. The lurker question is a classic topic to look productive without being necessarily productive, and is a topic that can often drag the game into a quagmire of debate that demotivates town

-I had the same reaction as Irrelephant’s 41 mao

-Keyser’s 42 seems very paranoid. I thought it was clear that Irrelephant asked because Keyser’s initial reaction to Sesq’s post was interpreting a lot that the rest of us may not have inferred, and therefore implied Keyser knew sesq better than we did from experience. All of his posts thus far feel like they come from a non-cohesive mindset, versus lacking information and trying to make reads. 51 makes it worse.

-I don’t really understand my predecessor’s posts in both sentiment and syntax

-Don’t agree with Reundo’s 46 but town lean for it

-god it’s hard to keep track of who’s who with multi replace slots

-Keyser you better get better like you promised because I’m at 102 and just keep feeling worse about your thought process; IIRC your town game with us was productive when scum read, not so defensive. Before anyone criticizes me for scum reading the content of those posts: I’m not. It’s a combination of tone and progression and pace that makes me feel very uncomfortable about what POV could generate that

-Rreundo’s 103 is good, in both content and the motivations I glean from it

-I’ll probably end up going into detail about my thoughts on Keyser at some point post catch up

-volxen 104 felt more posturing than genuine, like out of all of the content thus far that’s the only genuine sounding commentary they could squeeze out

-irrelephant it feels like you’re more aggressive this game :o I don’t know what it means yet but I’m curious how you play in a game I wasn’t in

-I feel like gamenburger meant to say “this is never scum” or something in 108? I thought he was saying that he was town read a lot for his high effort play style, but then he says he did it and people said “this is never town” as if he’s scum for it? But then he criticizes it by saying scum on this site tend to be lazy and therefore scum can coast with high effort IIOA, so he told everyone to not town read him for effort? That had to be have been a typo, right? I agree with the sentiment though and it’s why I run around joining games with Irrelephant just to tell everyone not to town read him for just high effort posting. Has only really post his philosophy of town play/scum hunting though, and nothing alignment indicative

-I have surprisingly little grasp of Ausuka’s tone and thought process after reading 111 what the hell; my only reaction is maybe a wiff of ausuka/keyser association

-can everyone just stop misspelling laissez faire just as a favor to me pretty please tia

-unless it’s a brazen gamble I don’t think Keyser and ausuka are scum together? But I don’t know Keyser’s scum range. Must investigate

-lock towning on Reundo after 119; explain in reads list later maybe

-121 Keyser what? It makes perfect sense that Dunn would address every instance he’s been mentioned thus far before posting his current scum read

-volxen’s 123 has somehow made me feel really bad about him but also Keyser. I hope they’re scum buddies and this is 2 birds 1 stone!

-126 is weird; I would have thought Keyser is far too experienced to think there’s no point to baiting empty vote reactions as if they’re not alignment indicative

-134 disagree with Keyser here. Irrelephant’s posts name dropping Dunn were all “waiting for Dunn to post” which isn’t really content that can be engaged directly

-148 from volxen is so strange; why this focus on Keyser not in a way that sorts the people reading Keyser but rather undermines scum reads on Keyser? Like, I defend people I think are town all the time and even in similar ways, but not until I actually think they’re definitely town which I didn’t think had happened

-150 reundo wagon makes me very uncomfortable

-Toranga’s posts seem towny, even if I disagree a lot I can see why he would react the way he did if he’s town

-170 I was worried about nsg for a spell but I think this is, in fact, townsg

-don’t have any read on Kop at all

-I’ve got very little read on e but the nonchalant apathy feels non-scum, maybe even tpr
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Post Post #924 (isolation #62) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:28 pm

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In post 725, Nauci wrote:Not even remotely caught up (I'm at like post 52) but VOTE: Keyser Söze until I'm done because like dayum
In post 916, Nauci wrote:Making progress

and not changing my vote; actually if anything I feel worse about Keyser at this point
why do you think keyser is scum?

is it the posts you pointed out in your wall or is it something else?

if its something else, what is it?
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Post Post #931 (isolation #63) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:26 am

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In post 928, Keyser Söze wrote:Oh no Nauci :( just when I’d written off the Sesq slot as town... time to have another look.

I hope you catchup with everyone soon (I won’t reply to your scum case until you have).

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Post Post #935 (isolation #64) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:55 am

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In post 931, Eragon wrote:
In post 928, Keyser Söze wrote:Oh no Nauci :( just when I’d written off the Sesq slot as town... time to have another look.

I hope you catchup with everyone soon (I won’t reply to your scum case until you have).

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also what i mean by this is that this post is super scummy.

first off, it came pretty much directly after Nauci explained their SR, and showed they had a p.strong SR on Keyser, so this is taken as an OMGUS.
on top of the fact that its "I had thought you were town until you SR me, well, now time to take another look"
Id bet a thousand bucks keyser is/was going to end up "Casing" Nauci and Scumreading them.
"I hope you catch up with everyone because im not responding to your case before you have"
Why does it matter where they are in the thread? someone can SR you for things you did D1, and you dont have to be fully caught up to have thoughts/a SR.
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Post Post #936 (isolation #65) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:55 am

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In post 934, Irrelephant11 wrote:because your push on volxen gets townier each time I look at it and also it's worth a shot
Also because [redacted], but mainly because it's worth a shot
[redacted] = because hes a duckling amirite?
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Post Post #937 (isolation #66) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:56 am

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if both scum arent in {Dunn, Ausuka, Keyser, NSG, maybe Reundo) i need help.

seriously.
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Post Post #938 (isolation #67) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:59 am

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TOWN CORE

-Nauci
-Toranaga
-Eragon
-the worst
-Irrelephant11

PoE Bracket

-northsidegal
-Ausuka
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral
-Reundo

Probably the town

-Reundo
-NSG

probably the scum

-keyser soze
-dunnstral
-ausuka
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Post Post #940 (isolation #68) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:04 am

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eh i feel less confident on it i just saw posts that pinged me.

before i was willing to pass it off to playstyle(as you could see i had him in my town block) but that was just because ive never played with him and you said its his style.

but then after that wolfy OMGUS thingy i just cant pass that off to playstyle



Im confident in Nauci, but probably my weakest towncore
im like, 85% postive i dont have scum in my town core


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Post Post #965 (isolation #69) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:31 pm

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In post 964, the worst wrote:Ooooo she maybe isn't aware of ~the tell~
its the telltale heart, right?

BENEATH THE FLOORBOARDS LIE THE ANSWER
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Post Post #968 (isolation #70) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:36 pm

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In post 966, Toranaga wrote:Image

VOTE: northsidedgal
Spoiler: Large GIF i couldnt figure out how to resize, sorry.
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Post Post #971 (isolation #71) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:59 pm

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its creepy even with context
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Post Post #973 (isolation #72) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:30 pm

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In post 951, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 950, Irrelephant11 wrote:yeah I'm actually pretty interested in a Nauci flip
do you think Eragon’s
irrational hard town
read of Nauci looks better with Nauci flipping town or scum?
ooo.. saucy
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Post Post #974 (isolation #73) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:31 pm

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In post 953, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 952, Irrelephant11 wrote:??
I have no answer atm. Why do you ask?
I want your answer to use against you or to support you after flip
s :shifty: (I like your answers)


Do you think Nauci is a D2 lynch though? (Is pretty much a ‘game changing lynch’ this early. Have you re-read Sesq recently?
was this serious or was it a joke and the serious part is the (parenthesis)
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Post Post #975 (isolation #74) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:34 pm

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In post 956, the worst wrote:good morning

VOTE: Dunnstral
fun
In post 957, Dunnstral wrote:Go back to sleep ducky you're wrong
spicy
In post 958, Irrelephant11 wrote:hey dunnstral please please post five more times before leaving
each with substantial meaning

it would be v towny of you and also helpful
he didnt do this... what does it mean to you?
In post 960, Dunnstral wrote:I started rethinking Ausuka on recent postings

I think I'd prefer to get Keyser Soze and I think he's been kind of awkward around the Ausuka vs Me Dynamic
can you elaborate on why its "awkward"
and what about Ausuka makes you rethink
In post 962, Nauci wrote:
In post 950, Irrelephant11 wrote:yeah I'm actually pretty interested in a Nauci flip
No you're not
spicy
In post 972, Toranaga wrote:there's nothing creepy about monty python

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Post Post #976 (isolation #75) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:37 pm

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In post 915, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE: ausuka
In post 960, Dunnstral wrote:I started rethinking Ausuka on recent postings

I think I'd prefer to get Keyser Soze and I think he's been kind of awkward around the Ausuka vs Me Dynamic
ill go deeper on a read tommorow(yes, i know ive said this a million times) but on a surface level, either Ausuka and Dunnstral are SvS and dunn would rather get lynched than ausuka

or dunn is town

because i dont see Dunnstral backing off of his SR on the only other wagon with good traction(Ausuka) if he is scum and ausuka is town. IT just makes no sense from a scum PoV and preservation.

thats only surface level
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Post Post #977 (isolation #76) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:58 pm

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i go to sleep now
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #77) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:11 am

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Eh I’m good with dunnstral too, even if he’s not my #1

I really should probably ISO him
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #78) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:10 am

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damn speed on those 2 pages since ive been here.

and those frickin walls i wanna kms.

do you want me to catch up through the thread or case Dunn, for better or worse?
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #79) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:11 am

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In post 1083, Toranaga wrote:it's very possible I antagonized ausuka so hard on d2 that she can't really see me being town for it, and then started that associative read with TW cause he was just siding with me and sheeping it.

I think town eragon is generally townier than this, but if eragon is scum he is putting a very decent effort and looking towny at a few points in this ISO.


I'm having a very difficult time trying to find a proper lynch that isn't NSG, which might reduce the whole thing to just flipping dunnstral and hoping it flips scum

but anyone doing so should take into consideration that he literally shaded volxen's entire wagon when it was L-2 on d1. which isn't a pro-town thing to do, but it doesn't strike as someone who knows alignments.

I was wrong about stuff like that before and he hasn't been oozing towniness anyway.

I think it's gonna be mostly ausuka/nsg or dunn/nsg. I think lynching these 3 and then eragon wins the game.
im not sure exactly what you mean, if you mean the effort/time i've done its probably because im in 4 honors/AP classes sophomore year and completely overloaded almost everyday
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #80) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:12 am

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In post 1085, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1084, Eragon wrote:damn speed on those 2 pages since ive been here.

and those frickin walls i wanna kms.

do you want me to catch up through the thread or case Dunn, for better or worse?
catch up please

read my case on NSG
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #81) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:27 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1028, Toranaga wrote:ok lets lynch dunn, sure

but if it's town

aus/nsg is still where I'm at

VOTE: dunnstrall
o.0 i dont recommend killing someone you think is town with still 7 days left on the day
In post 1029, Toranaga wrote:I'm townreading it but it's such a hero read for thin things it's not really relevant and it's not strong
i agree here, but im gonna have to case them for a final read
In post 1032, Toranaga wrote:UNVOTE: dunnugh

im dumb

ok
ok. so that vote did nothing :/
In post 1033, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 984, Nauci wrote:Quick and dirty reads list before I head into the 600s

Skitter Tier
:

Reundo - Bellaphant of the ball
nsg - this is so outside of scumsg range and definitely in burned-out-townsg range

You know what? You's alright
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Toranga
Eragon
Ausuka

Wouldn’t bet on these
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Dunnstral
The worst

Naughty little boys and well actually just boys
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Keyser
Irrelephant
Myself or Irrelephant11 are very unlikely scum and shouldn’t be lynched today.

You’ll have to investigate us again Nauci :twisted:
{with the list itself}
i dont get the read on Irrelephant, but i did see you revoked it later on, so ill leave that as fine
the skitter teir made me laugh, in more ways than 1.
first off, great name :3
second off, i dont get why Reundo is so transparantly towny to you, or why you think NSG is burned up town, instead of just scum.
Then can you elaborate on your Duckling read?

{about Keyser}
the recent posts like this are what makes me think your scum, responding to someone's readlist with
"Im very unlikely scum and shouldnt be lynch, you'll have to investigate again"
its just a way to deflect the attention IMO
In post 1034, Irrelephant11 wrote:So like here's where I'm at. I think volxen was pretty straightforwardly scum, and I think his associations should be leading our lynch.

I'm gonna go double check what those were again because I forget
i agree, but i personally trust regular reads than association reads, partly just trained from my forums because some of the people are such wild cannons they'll hard defend town as scum or hard defend scum as town and mega super bus and shit like that, so ive learned not to completely trust A. reads, but i can see the validity of it.
In post 1035, Ausuka wrote:honestly I'm not very enthusiastic about a Dunnstral lynch anymore and I think it'll flip town tbh. I realize that's not very helpful and nobody wants to lynch Reundo rn so I'll make time to do something more substantial later
when nobody is probably going to be around to react to it :(
.
is it weird that both of the top wagons all of a sudden TR each other and dont want to lynch other?
i think so.
In post 1040, Toranaga wrote:1k posts isn't actually that much so let's get to it
LETS HIT IT!!!
In post 1041, Keyser Söze wrote:If Dunnstral posted the next 1k that’d be cool.
i agree, but i havent seen much presence from you recently either, i know you've had a lot of posts, and probably just RL stuff(understand) but you have lost activity
In post 1042, Irrelephant11 wrote:volxen associations:
- RVS votes GNB[tw]
- He parrots NSG's (without mentioning nsg) "why say not to townread yourself?" case on GNB[tw]
- He shades Sesq[Nauci] for poorly scumcasing Keyser
- He continues to argue with GNB[tw] and answers Ausuka's question about GNB[tw]
- Asks 2.718[Huntress] if he's still scumreading Keyser
- Answers Toranaga's question about GNB[tw] ("I'm nullreading him")
- He townreads Keyser for weak reasons; nullreads nsg in few words; nullreads GNB[tw] in very many words; scumreads 2.718[Huntress] with his most in-depth thought processes yet. His reasons for the scumread are:
> Misrepping Keyser
> Siding with Reundo against Keyser
> Townreading Reundo with poor reasoning
- Tries to direct attention off his slot by pointing at lurkers. Namely: 2.718[Huntress], Toranaga, and Sesq. Notably, part of his scumread of Tor is that Tor thinks scum is in 2.718[Huntress]/volxen/sesq. I think this is somewhat clearing for Tor (in addition to the towncred he does actually deserve for the volxen lynch) because I don't think their scum play here was to name each other in their lynchbait lists.
- Reiterates his scumreads from his previous posts. Also says Reundo/Keyser is either t/t or s/t (Keyser being town either way)
- says hi to the worst (not really indicative, I'm just being thorough)
- He answers nsg's question about knowing the worst ("yes")
& - continues to talk about nsg, this time about his experience with mafia and mafiascum.
- Becomes the fourth vote on sesq
- Welcomes Huntress
- Helps sesq try to unvote
- Welcomes Eragon
- Claims watcher in response to me
- Tries to shift wagon movement back to sesq in response to me
- Shades Reundo for attacking Keyser one more time after his lynch is inevitable
interesting, but what were your results from this dive?
coming soon.
In post 1043, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Takeaways


In the green
: Nauci is almost certainly town, as I think volxen was being survivalistic at the end there by trying to get sesq to unvote correctly and move wagons back to sesq

Toranaga is almost certainly town or is scum who bussed v impressively. He and volxen scumcased each other like they really wanted one another dead

I guess it's more likely nsg is town here for the way their interactions were always at a sort of diagonal angle? If that makes sense? Nothing to either suggest they're buddies or not aligned, with a normal amount of interaction. An ideal distance for scum buddies but I don't think it's likely that volxen was at that sort of ideal distance with his scum buddies

Reundo looks good as a player volxen seemed to think could be an easier mislynch. This one is a little weaker, but overall it just doesn't feel like scum theater

Hmmm
: Volxen never has any interaction from his side with the Kop[Eragon] slot or Dunnstral, except to welcome Eragon to the game. I think this is mostly meaningless for Eragon, less certain on what it means for Dunnstral, who actively tried to shift people off the volxen wagon early on.

Yikes
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Ausuka and volxen don't have any meaningful interaction from volxen's ISO. Instead, Ausuka lobs him an easy question, he answers, and then he ignores her.

Fine, I'll admit that Keyser can be scum here. I think it's very likely that either Keyser or the worst are scum here, actually (even though I've said I don't think they're partners - which idk if I'm right about)

Thoughts? UNVOTE:
honestly im not sure if you missed anyone, but why do you think the worst is scum from this?
In post 1044, Toranaga wrote:should start with this NSG ISO, since it's the one slot my read really radically differs from everyone else.

first 10 posts are objectively scum indicative to me. she spends a good amount of time overexplaining how it "doesn't make sense" and "seems kinda fake" for GNB to be bothered with getting townread for effort early on, just to end on a note that it didn't even ping her on a scum level (see below). she explains sesq mindset for sesq in #27, in a reply to keyser, for absolutely no reason and without even undersatanding what sesq's post was about. I know by now and I never read differently, that sesq was literally just asking to be townread? and NSG takes keyser's misinterpretation of it and answers sesq for her without even considering the possibility that sesq was not being ironic in that post.

so here is the post she says she is not pinged by GNB:
In post 170, northsidegal wrote:dunnstral seems kind of scummy right now, so that's a good a place as any for a vote.

i remember someone asking or pondering upon why i wasn't voting GNB if i was apparently scumreading him, and while i didn't and still don't really understand the mindset of what he was saying, it didn't really ping me as all that scum indicative on an instintcutal level.

anyways,
VOTE: dunnstral
consider NSG is veteran enough to understand that nonsensical thinking does not equal scummy and that questioning nonsense will very often lead to dead ends. also consider that, it's not actually that hard to see GNB's posting there as towny or understand why he'd be bothered with townreads for effort. I can see town thinking like this, even though ofc it doesn't bother me to be getting free passes for posting many words, and more importantly, even if I didn't understand it I'd be coming from a position of "is this scum motivated?" when challenging GNB on his views, which isn't something NSG is doing here. she is writing many words that lead the game nowhere, instead of pursuing things she finds alignment indicative. I'm very bothered that she'd spend half her posting at this point pursuing something that didn't even ping her at all in the first place. what pinged her? dunnstral. why didn't se ask dunnstral anything, then? why isn't she going after him, instead of creating this pointless conversation with GNB?

so I'm already at a point here, that NSG needs to town the fuck up very hard for me to townread her slot overrall and I, quite frankly, don't remember much of anything I saw from her that got me there yet. we'll see...
In post 171, northsidegal wrote:
In post 155, Kop wrote:I think Keyser is town from the quick glancing I made. I have played with Keyser quite a bit under a different alias on another website, and kinda know what his town game is, and what his scum game is. Unless his game play is different over here compared to over on the other website I play with him, but at the moment, I am getting his town game play from what I've seen so far.
how accurate would you say you are when it comes to reading keyser? i just want to know your degree of confidence here.

on a different note, kop's staccato sentences with all of the commas are standing out to me. from memory i don't really remember him talking like that, although i could certainly be wrong here. i'm going to check for myself soon (if not right after this then this should serve as a reminder), but does anyone else who's played with kop remember that?
again. this is GNB's nonread all over again. she is voting dunnstral without talking about him at all in any meaningful way, and then starts going over... commas? and if he is now talking in commas, so what? is that anything indicative? why is she not talking about her actual scumread? why are the things NSG points out so blatantly not scummy things at all?
In post 174, northsidegal wrote:
In post 173, Dunnstral wrote:For real though I've got no clue what Kop's normal posting style is like - why do you think the commas are AI?
saying that my opinion is "commas are scummy" is an utter misrepresentation of what i'm trying to say

he's typing in an awkward manner and it's an awkward manner that i'm not sure i remember him doing in the games i've seen him as town

not sure how you could frame that as my opinion being "commas are scummy"
no, dunn is right. you're quite literally shading someone's punctuation instead of going deep over their thoughts or anything smart. this is fake scumhunting if I've ever seen one and I'm astonished, I'm appalled, I'm confused and sad this is being townread.
In post 232, northsidegal wrote:
In post 176, Dunnstral wrote:I mean, that looks like exactly what you're saying here, except replace that with "Kop's commas are scummy"
i began a response to this a day or so ago but never finished it

the statement "kop's commas are scummy" implies that in a vacuum i think that the use of commas is scum-indicative (patently absurd). the punctuation itself is secondary to my main point - i noticed a stylistic difference between the way someone was typing here and the way that i remember that same person typing in a previous game as scum. i don't think anyone would possibility dispute that that has a very good chance of being in some way meaningful.

-shrug-

you're being far less reasonable than i typically expect you to be, and i'm not sure if i should take it as scum-indicative or not
this is how she is talking about someone she is voting right now. her dunn read had 0 progression so far, and her other reads had 0 progression so far. "not sure if scum indicative or not" is so slimy, too. can't it be town indicative? why don't you go one step above "you're not understanding my POV" here? is the fact that he is mocking your read alignment indicative? what is your kop read anyway? blablabla commas, and so what, is there anything else?

literally not pushing anything reasonable and not progressing the gamestate in any way. I can't see this as anything else but stalling the game. there's nothing towny here. also "you're being far less reasonable than I expect" is so over the top I wonder if it makes dunn scum with NSG. cause dunn mocks NSG, but also makes no read there, and then NSG overreacts to it. it just feels slimy from both parts.
In post 234, northsidegal wrote:
In post 187, Keyser Söze wrote:Not sure I buy into NSG’s “staccato sentence/comma” theory - unless you can clearly show Kop only posting this style as scum, I think it’s too reachy for my taste.
wasn't much of a "theory" in the first place, nor something to "buy into" before more research was done. despite how dunnstral may want you to look at it, it was really only ever something that stuck out to me as being potentially a thing / relevant, hence my asking anyone else for information. honestly, i still haven't done the meta on kop that i wanted to.
In post 206, Irrelephant11 wrote:Because NSG is hard townreading you and one of the following is true:
-She's town and probably correct
-She's scum and correct
-You're both scum <--- in this situation, I have no useful reads on any players, so I'm assuming it's not this
ah, the mathdino-style reads. i love it!
234 posts into the game and it's still just empty. what NSG did twice already, and then upped her postcount with, and very little else, was:

1 - she does a bad/unnecessary nitpicky take on a slot (GNB townreading thing, kop's commas);
2 - she then defends that her point of view is valid when people find it strange.

other reads? ausuka is town, no reasons given, dunn is scummy, no reasons given.

235 is the hedgiest read ever

then this
In post 236, northsidegal wrote:it angers me the way dunnstral has framed my argument, genuinely.
maybe they're just scum together. if NSG is voting him and thinks he "framed" her, why isn't she casing him? are you genuinely upset with someone you think it's scum cause they're trying to win? just what mindset is this?
In post 291, northsidegal wrote:
In post 277, the worst wrote:
In post 170, northsidegal wrote:dunnstral seems kind of scummy right now, so that's a good a place as any for a vote.
wHY
mainly i felt like -nothing- he was saying early was actually town indicative, which on its own might not make that much sense (not noticing towny things = scum?) but i feel like it's relevant. if someone is town thwn i would expect that they would show it in some way. here's what i mean (aka my shitty mathdino-style "lolcase" that will, going off of previous experience, get me either scumread or into a very stupid argument that lasts longer than it should):
In post 23, Dunnstral wrote:We end up at 4 people alive but 1 person is confirmed town (watcher) or there's a cc

So it's not worse
completely mechanically speaking, irrelevant to alignment
In post 117, Dunnstral wrote:I mean it's not worse than a regular game at 3 people alive

----

Keyser I don't think I caught you in the game we played, not sure why you think I should be "taking lead" today either
completely mechanical + statement of fact
In post 117, Dunnstral wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: If Dunnstral flips red I would actually wanna put Irrelephant under closer inspection (i.e ill-timed/ill-formed distancing attempt). Or vice versa. I've enjoyed talking to Irrelephant11 so he's on the green side of null so far.
This is bad preflip stuff and you have to jump to a lot of conclusions to get to this point - also it's not warranted at this time

VOTE: Sesq
This is a good place to put a serious vote
this one is arguable but pointing out questionable play is something that can be done as town or scum, perhaps even especially so as scum given that you have insight into if something is already correct (not that that's an argument for it being more likely to come from scum)

and so on (i'm lazy + washed up), i think this trend continues of things that are reasonable from an entirely objective point of view but don't actually really reveal a town mindset continues

it's also possible i'm biased because of his response to what i said regarding kop which i feel was more unreasonable than i expect from dunnstral
empty case, nothing she even points out that's actually scummy, just "not revealing as towny mindset". those interactions/vote/push with dunn are really really bad.
In post 293, northsidegal wrote:anyways, i feel as if this game i'm just going to try to get a towncore and go off of poe mainly

town:
northsidegal
2.718281828459 (unfortunate you didn't replace into this slot ducky, i think it's town)
Ausuka
Keyser Söze (presuming i can trust kop on keyser's alignment and just for now - keyser is someone who i plan to do more meta on when i get the energy or when someone bothers me about it enough)
Irrelephant11

that leaves:
{volxen, the worst, Dunnstral, Reundo, Toranaga, Kop}

which feels vaguely alright in terms of a poe
I townread her telling the worst she thinks numbers is town and is sad he didn't sub in there, but look at the phrasing. it's at the very top of her reads, she doesn't need to point out she thinks it's town any further. also, "i feel as if this game i'm just going to try to get a towncore and go off of poe mainly", how can you even tell these things? isn't every game trying to get a towncore and then killing the POE, at least until you get a proper strong scumread? why say this? weird self awareness, I don't like it at all.

what's next in her ISO? townreading hypocrisy for no reason in #298, goes from dunn to sesq without even saying why she thought sesq was scum, or anything really about sesq other than weirdly defending a mindset she didn't even had on that post to keyser.
In post 318, northsidegal wrote:-shrug-

i'm not particularly concerned about him yet, so i think it's probably fine. i might just tunnel sesq for today and leave it at that.
the worst wrote:shame there's no trackers in this setup
:shifty:
:lol:
and where are you tunneling sesq? you didn't even remember it existed when you made your list, right? and you didn't even explain why you think it was scum.

why are you guys townreading this? should I even keep reading? this is obviously scum, right? I don't care if NSG rolls over and dies every other scumgame of hers. this isn't burn out, this is scum.
In post 1045, Toranaga wrote:VOTE: northsidegal

not voting anything else today. I read another 10 posts from her ISO and none of them are towny, many are scummy. it's literally just blending in without a single post that indicates an actual attempt at solving the game. her progressions are non existant, her scum reads are empty, her town reads are blend, this isn't NSG's town game and IDC what your meta is. anyone can make 64 air balloons in posting form as scum, even the person who hates scum the most. IDK what the hell are you guys seeing here, I really don't.

sorry if wrong, don't think so.
not responding to the whole damn thing, but for the last part, i dont really see much from them, but thats the problem, i havent made a read since then, so i trust my reads over my non-reads.


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Post Post #1097 (isolation #82) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:27 am

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In post 1089, the worst wrote:Eragon this is not what we discussed in the hood
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #83) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:36 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1051, Irrelephant11 wrote:Yeah that's the strongest thing I'm pulling from it too actually

I guess nsg could be the lynch - like volxen's ISO doesn't rule it out and the way nsg made up BS to push onto sesq instead of volxen is scummy

I wonder if nsg and dunnstral would both be scum in that scenario? Where Dunnstral says the volzen wagon is bad and votes sesq and nsg follows with "reasoning"
i definitely see this as the scumteam
In post 1052, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1051, Irrelephant11 wrote:Yeah that's the strongest thing I'm pulling from it too actually

I guess nsg could be the lynch - like volxen's ISO doesn't rule it out and the way nsg made up BS to push onto sesq instead of volxen is scummy

I wonder if nsg and dunnstral would both be scum in that scenario? Where Dunnstral says the volzen wagon is bad and votes sesq and nsg follows with "reasoning"
dunn is probably scum too, yes
i got my flip flops on my chip chops.
In post 1053, Toranaga wrote:dunn is totally scum, his ISO is horrible
:?: And then later says his posts are not individually scummy :?:
In post 1054, Nauci wrote:whdn my cat stops aggressively snuggling me ill refute the nsg case im very sure shes town
or let them actually defend themself instead of WK'ing someone else
In post 1055, Irrelephant11 wrote:I mean I would love if nsg would come refute the nsg case
^
In post 1058, Irrelephant11 wrote:lol same but I would feel more comfortable townreading nsg for her own play rather than for yours

but I digress


I think my preferred lynchpool is dunnstral/tw/ausuka and if everyone I townread wanted keyser or nsg I'd compromise there
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In post 1062, Toranaga wrote:yeah probably not eragon

and definitely not keyser or tw
In post 1063, Ausuka wrote:{Nauci, Irrelephant, Keyser}
{nsg, (will just trust nauci on this particular read since I'm low on towns anyway) dunnstral}
{Eragon, the worst, Toranga}
{reundo}

about here, i'm probably missing something
can you explain how you think reundo is your biggest scum?
can you explain how you think TW, Tora, and I are scummy?
can you explain your Keyser and NSG TR's?

In post 1065, Ausuka wrote:oh ok then i'll just follow consensus reads. dunnstral and me are the scumteam. game solved yay :D
:lol:
In post 1070, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1059, Irrelephant11 wrote:mm swap keyser and the worst, the evidence mounting on keyser from many slots is a lot
Sorry keyser I'm enjoying your presence but I think you have high scum equity
Volxen knew I was town and formed his limited pushes around that.
Kop has a 100% read accuracy read on me.
You know I am town really and shouldnt be lynched today.
My D1 reads were solid.
Do you think I am underperforming as town?
kop had a read 0.0
"you know i am town really and i shouldnt be lynched"
honestly fucking stop saying this BS
"My D1 reads are solid"
So what?
"do you think im underperforming"
Whats the point of this during the game?
In post 1072, Nauci wrote:P.S. The Eragon slot is like hard gliding right under everyone's radar and that should bother all of y'all a lot
:( but my content :eek:
In post 1073, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1072, Nauci wrote:P.S. The Eragon slot is like hard gliding right under everyone's radar and that should bother all of y'all a lot
he is one foot above nsg/ausuka/dunn to me

there's literally nothing scummy about keyser btw
how is there nothing scummy about keyser?
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #84) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:41 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1076, Nauci wrote:Eragon is the new Errant
what?
In post 1077, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1072, Nauci wrote:P.S. The Eragon slot is like hard gliding right under everyone's radar and that should bother all of y'all a lot
this is fair and accurate news
i agree, but activity is normally NAI for me, i can be active or inactive as both town or scum, depending on whats happening in life
In post 1078, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral

from here on out just voting whoever I'm supposed to vote.

if anyone sees me signing up for a Mafia game ever again please spam my inbox reminding me not to
sad :cry:
In post 1079, Toranaga wrote:
In post 519, Eragon wrote:
In post 500, the worst wrote::ok_hand:
red flip d1 feels good man

drunk ducky gonna slep now gngn
I think this is actually TMI, because he was already like “red flip Day 1 feels good”

I mean, town never KNOWS that the person is scum unless a TI has a guilty, but TW acted like he KNEW volxen was scum, not HOPING that volxen was scum and not actually watcher.
this is the first kinda towny post in eragon's ISO. I didn't like some stuff and kop was hard null.

still reading...
also iirc that was my first post where i actually had some inkling of the game :lol: :lol:
In post 1081, Toranaga wrote:eragon's ISO: his reads list seem good, his thoughts seem towny on a surface level

could be scum but it's not really standing out as such and would be a poor lynch
thats all you got from my ISO :cry: :cry: :cry:
In post 1082, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1070, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1059, Irrelephant11 wrote:mm swap keyser and the worst, the evidence mounting on keyser from many slots is a lot
Sorry keyser I'm enjoying your presence but I think you have high scum equity
Volxen knew I was town and formed his limited pushes around that.
Kop has a 100% read accuracy read on me.
You know I am town really and shouldnt be lynched today.
My D1 reads were solid.
Do you think I am underperforming as town?
-A reasonable way to look at it, but it is pretty weird how you didn't call out him trying to pocket you if that was the case
-Okay, sure, I'll give this a tiny bit of weight
-I definitely don't prefer your lynch but if my townreads push you I'm not sure I want to get in the way anymore (pretend I wrote this in a less scummy-sounding way)
-meaningless, as scum can be however right/wrong with their reads as they want
-No, so I'll give this some weight too

g2g bye
i dont know why it matters if kop can have an accurate read because he only had about 14 posts this game and no thread presence, so i wouldnt really put anything in what he says
and how do you put weight when someone asks "am i underperforming as town?"
In post 1083, Toranaga wrote:it's very possible I antagonized ausuka so hard on d2 that she can't really see me being town for it, and then started that associative read with TW cause he was just siding with me and sheeping it.

I think town eragon is generally townier than this, but if eragon is scum he is putting a very decent effort and looking towny at a few points in this ISO.

I'm having a very difficult time trying to find a proper lynch that isn't NSG, which might reduce the whole thing to just flipping dunnstral and hoping it flips scum

but anyone doing so should take into consideration that he literally shaded volxen's entire wagon when it was L-2 on d1. which isn't a pro-town thing to do, but it doesn't strike as someone who knows alignments.

I was wrong about stuff like that before and he hasn't been oozing towniness anyway.

I think it's gonna be mostly ausuka/nsg or dunn/nsg. I think lynching these 3 and then eragon wins the game.
as before, effort is NAI and you should treat it as such.
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #85) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:42 am

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yw for helping with the pagetop :3
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #86) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:46 am

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In post 938, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Nauci
-Toranaga
-Eragon
-the worst
-Irrelephant11

Town based on what other people said

-Reundo

PoE Bracket

-northsidegal
-Ausuka
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral

Probably the town

-dunnstral


probably the scum
(yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum, but i know one of them wont, i just dont know which)
-keyser soze
-NSG
-ausuka
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #87) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 1024, Toranaga wrote:it's funny nsg gets so townread for doing basically nothing when nauci has so many very deep thoughts and towny attitude all game and you guys don't see it as obvtowning

shrug
who is you guys 0.0
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #88) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:54 am

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In post 1108, Nauci wrote:ErrantParabola was scum in my last game with Keyser/irrelephant/tw and sounded generally towny without making any particularly committed or controversial reads and coasted by while other players post a lot more for a long time
sadness..

i replace in D2, have the 5th highest post count, and people think im coasting

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Post Post #1112 (isolation #89) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:55 am

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{pretty much D2 cause i didnt do shit D1}
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #90) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:58 am

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i like this right now, we actually have posts in real time
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #91) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:00 am

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In post 1115, Nauci wrote:
In post 1110, Eragon wrote:
In post 1108, Nauci wrote:ErrantParabola was scum in my last game with Keyser/irrelephant/tw and sounded generally towny without making any particularly committed or controversial reads and coasted by while other players post a lot more for a long time
sadness..

i replace in D2, have the 5th highest post count, and people think im coasting

:doc:
I'm finally getting around to reading the section where you post a lot though

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Post Post #1129 (isolation #92) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:33 pm

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No. what I want to know is who "e" is....

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Post Post #1130 (isolation #93) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:34 pm

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OOAOOAOAOAOOA

I get it now.

e the number.

LMAO
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Post Post #1180 (isolation #94) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:38 am

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In post 1142, northsidegal wrote:
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i am about to start my catch-up, but this post deserves a special mention.

I don't give a crap HOW rude it is, you could be the dickiest person out there and it doesnt matter(your not, just an example, hence the could), because getting angry/being rude isn't really scummy/bad.

But when you start going "If you think im scum that means your either shit or scum"
that type if post is BS and if your town, i sincerely hope you never make a post like that again as town.
if your scum, go right ahead
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Post Post #1182 (isolation #95) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:46 am

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In post 1131, Nauci wrote:
In post 1127, the worst wrote:
In post 1124, Nauci wrote:scum nervousness tics
why do you act so confident about seeing the difference between my scum nervous tics and general nervous tics lmao I have a very weird typing style
I mean I think I'm seeing the same psychological reactions but I'll comb through your town games and see if they're present there as well
i think we need a psychiatrist over here :3
In post 1138, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1043, Irrelephant11 wrote:In the green: Nauci is almost certainly town, as I think volxen was being survivalistic at the end there by trying to get sesq to unvote correctly and move wagons back to sesq
i'm not making any comment specifically on the context of this game, but moreso this as an idea in general

i think a good case study for why what you're saying here may not necessarily always hold true and should definitely be re-examined come later days (or today; nothing says you have to wait) is Mini Normal 1996, which i modded. early on day 1 pretty much the entire scumteam got caught - that is, at different points throughout the day all of them had major wagons start to form on them. they recognized this, and as a strategy decided to immediately all turn against eachother and hardbus. scum got lynched day one, but going down he made his partners look really good by contributing to their wagons. the scumteam didn't even know for which of them the lynch would actually go through on, but no matter who it was they would turn out looking good.

and so that's exactly what happened, scum got cleared from associations for a few days before i think some role shenanigans brought it back for town.

my main takeaway from that game was that a scumteam that's caught early on might turn on itself as a strategy, pushing one person down to raise the rest of them up. there was actually a time where i was considering making a "reminders / advice / 'words of wisdom' " section on my wiki and including that there, but i never got around to it.

anyways, that just reminded me of that thing that i had been thinking about for a while but never really had a chance to say.
a lot of words and stories that all end up meaning
"Don't make a confident association read on Nauci"
In post 1140, northsidegal wrote:"not pushing" things is not scum indicative because that's who i am as a person. it's been a while since i've pushed something very hard. the only times i really push scumreads hard is on secret alts where i care less about being wrong and as such am less meticulous. obviously a meticulous style when i'm as busy as i am recently ends up being more of a lazy style as i put off things more and more (i.e. metadiving people), but that's who i am.

"oh no, she's not """progressing the gamestate!""""
want to know who isn't doing that but is also actually scum? dunnstral.
well i guess you cant be wrong if you dont try, so there that :?
but you also cant be right.

IMO you have to try to play, then if your wrong, so what!? learn from it and do even better the next time.
if you play one game, and get 1 scum out of 3, next game get 2!
In post 1145, northsidegal wrote:is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?

not sure!
lol
In post 1147, Nauci wrote:
In post 1145, northsidegal wrote:is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?

not sure!
is this about me

I'm so lost
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #96) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:03 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1152, the worst wrote:BTW for disclosure:
my main back of mind concern with Nauci is that her read on me is sloppy and I haven't seen a strong tell from glancing thru her posts

I'm still v v null on a player I don't like being null on which means I still need to put in quality sorting time :cool:

if anyone wants to engage me pre emptively on Nauci I would be fine w that
im still very confused at the tell, but IMO Nauci is quite transparantly towny.
In post 1153, Dunnstral wrote:Can somebody remind me why we need me specifically to post more in this game? I don't think I caught that
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
this is a mafia game. People need to post to make reads/find scum/lynch scum/win.
You haven't been posting. The game needs posting. People want you to post.
now start posting comments, especially if your town.
In post 1157, Toranaga wrote:IDK

nsg posts literally anything and everyone townreads her


let's just get shit through then

dunn is annoying as well. "why do I have to post?" well good job mate, everyone wants you lynched and this is your contribution
ya-ha-ha-ha-no. i dont.

agree about dunn
In post 1158, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1153, Dunnstral wrote:Can somebody remind me why we need me specifically to post more in this game? I don't think I caught that
also, do you know why? cause this isn't your standard potato mafiascum game. a lot of people in this are actually good. if all you do is roll over, you get POE'd down and killed.

so gj getting lynched dunn, was a pleasure playing with you my mate
potato. a word i only thought could relate to the stupidity of some of the games from ToS forums, but follows me, unvariating, everywhere, ceaseless, creepy, stalking me throughout the boards, silently, quietly, scary...

DA POTATOE
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In post 1159, Nauci wrote:
In post 1148, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1146, Nauci wrote:
In post 1142, northsidegal wrote:
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:lol:

Thanks for saving me from making a wallpost for 2 hours :o
don't let me stop you :wink:
In post 1147, Nauci wrote:
In post 1145, northsidegal wrote:is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?

not sure!
is this about me

I'm so lost
yeah. my was about why volxen's push on your slot as he was going down may not be a reason to associatevly townread you (which you agreed with). what did you think it was about?
I thought it was but get reeeeaaally paranoid-awkward when there's room for misinterpretation

like the same feeling as when I'm on a sidewalk with someone coming the other way and we both try to dodge each other but end up blocking each other and I have to guess which way they're going and oh no ive fallen down a pit of awkwardness and will now cringe myself out of existence ok bye
relatable. have a nice day.
In post 1160, Nauci wrote:He has almost no sense of smell and I have a nearly super human sense of smell

He's Indian and makes Indian food with like 5x the spices so I can taste his food with my eyeballs from upstairs sometimes

Fish though

Fish oil sticks to everything
a super-human sense of smell for a super-cat
spices. eyeballs. smells.
sounds fun.
In post 1163, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1153, Dunnstral wrote:Can somebody remind me why we need me specifically to post more in this game? I don't think I caught that
Do you think you’ve solved this game? (In your last post you concluded I was scum - I think you’ll need to read a bit more).

If you don’t want to contribute anymore replace out.
the first part: honestly just stop. if your going to post that in nearly everypost, id rather you not post at all, "If you think im scum, you'll have to reread some more"
this is subtly shading dunn and subtly saying "I'm town"

the second part: I agree
In post 1166, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1128, Nauci wrote: [*]
@Keyser
Why did me scum reading you for the first 8 pages make you want to scum read/re-evaluate my slot? What would be the scum train of thought to do something like
My tone was semi serious: but tbh Sesq on D1 gives me enough reason to not lynch you today.

D2, your slot has been focused on killing townies. I just think you need to re-evaluate the playerlist.
OMFG. you may believe your reads are right.
you may think your God-like with all your reads and nothing is ever wrong.
You may believe your always perfect.
BUT YOUR NOT!!!!!
SO DONT FRIKIN ACT LIKE YOU ARE.

"D2 your slot has been focused on killing townies"
FROM WHOSE PERSPECTIVE????????????
just because Nauci pushes people that you THINK are town, DOES NOT MEAN that they are actually town.
so dont tell nauci to re-evaluate the playerlist when you could very well be wrong.

In post 1168, Nauci wrote:
In post 1166, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1128, Nauci wrote: [*]
@Keyser
Why did me scum reading you for the first 8 pages make you want to scum read/re-evaluate my slot? What would be the scum train of thought to do something like
My tone was semi serious: but tbh Sesq on D1 gives me enough reason to not lynch you today.

D2, your slot has been focused on killing townies. I just think you need to re-evaluate the playerlist.
Okay first of all, it's really bizarre for you to say "D2, your slot." While talking to me. That's some weird 3rd person round about stuff.

Second, my slot has spent more time declaring and protecting town reads thus far while I continue to work on my scum cases when I have time. So that's either confirmation bias refusing to see what I'm spending my time on, or a misrepresentation.
basically this ^, but i feel much more strongly about it
In post 1171, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1170, Nauci wrote:
In post 1166, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1128, Nauci wrote: [*]
@Keyser
Why did me scum reading you for the first 8 pages make you want to scum read/re-evaluate my slot? What would be the scum train of thought to do something like
My tone was semi serious: but tbh Sesq on D1 gives me enough reason to not lynch you today.

D2, your slot has been focused on killing townies. I just think you need to re-evaluate the playerlist.
It's disappointing how little you've engaged with all of the content from the last 5+ pages (while asking others to contribute more).
I’ve read and made conclusions.

Dunnstral and Toranaga are no longer in my PoE today.

I want to sort NSG and TW now. If I exit D2 with strong reads on either slot I will count that as a success.
the only success leaving D2 is either having 2 confirmed(FYPOV) scum going into D3 or lynching scum D2.
dont settle for just making a read on someone else.

In post 1174, Nauci wrote:
In post 1172, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1170, Nauci wrote:all the content from the last 5+ pages
Highlight which alignment indicative observations / scum cases you think I have ignored and I will offer you my take/read on it.
Otherwise, I believe I am up to date.
I want you to explain which things you reacted to and caused the updates in your reads.
^

also when(read:if) you respond to things i said, please dont quote the whole wall
also i had to unspoiler the "rude thing" to make BBcode work, sorry
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #97) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:10 am

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In post 1175, Keyser Söze wrote:No, you said I ignored all the “content” from the last 5 pages.
What alignment indicative posts / scum cases are you referring to?
You can’t just throw that out there and expect me not to react.
I have been fully engaged in this game thank you.


Do you think Toranaga and Dunnstral are the last two mafia goons?
If so, convince me to return back there.

Toranaga has convinced me 1) he is unlikely mafia and 2) he also convinced me I was a blind idiot for being on Dunnstral’s wagon all of today.
Tor never flips goon(i stg if you pocketed me again Tor :evil: :evil: :evil: )
dunnstral could very well scum, and im almost confident, even though that towny unvote thingy he did.
also Nauci never said you ignored "all the content" from the last 5 pages.
they said "I dont like
how little
He's reacted to the content of the last 5 pages"
so dont try to twist their words to make it seem like you are doing as much as everyone else and that they are wolfy reaching.
In post 1176, Keyser Söze wrote:Dunnstral:

- defends scum
- opposes wagon on scum
- attacks town
- encourages wagon on town
- not motivated (or happy to be seen to not be motivated) about scum hunting
- no pro-active urgency demonstrated while being the lead wagon today
- weak ISO
- zero town cred won from D1 (Volxen bud was there for the taking)
- zero motivation to gain town cred for D2
- Lame OMGUS read
- minimal WIM


Tora opened up my eyes to town read him via WIFOM.

Scum-Dunstral would never survive to LYLO playing like this.

Proof of the pudding: he’s been in nearly everybody’s POE today, and likely some people will even want to kickstart his wagon before the deadline.
most of the stuff you put down should be scummy, but then you said Tora makes you think dunn is town by WIFOM.
and whats the point of the proof pudding?
In post 1177, Toranaga wrote:keyser is town as fuck
please explain this.
Im in shock you read it that strongly.
How?
In post 1178, Toranaga wrote:glad we're seeing the same things wrt dunn
yee

In post 1179, Keyser Söze wrote:I do feel cleaner coming off his wagon. I was being lazy and short sighted.
ahh, the self-deprecation, always the distancing from yourself being scum, because scum isnt likely to point out where they did bad
In post 1183, northsidegal wrote:-shrug-

it was more of a joke than anything serious. i don't really think that if people don't townread me they're bad or scum
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #98) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:44 am

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In post 1186, Keyser Söze wrote:@Eragon - why is your vote not on me?
You have just listed many (bad) reasons why you strongly think I am scum.



Btw, I never said I was "god like" - I'm a below-average mafiascum player with still lots to learn. However, my reads have been on point so far this game. If Dunnstral and tora flip town, I'll feel even better about my developing game :giggle:
because your not my strongest SR, because most of the reasons are more like, post thoughts and tonal reads? along with a bit of playstyle maybe? so im not sure how stongly I SR you rn, also becuase i havent voted since making those posts o.0
and also partly because i just forgot about the vote :dead:

then if you think that, dont tell people to re-evaluate the playerlist because they have a few SR's in your TR's, or vice versa.
people can be wrong, including you.


I want to pull up part of a document from this site

You have a better chance of dying IRL than winning the lottery.

Do not fool yourself into thinking you can call the scumteam, especially before anyone has flipped scum. Don't bother with trying to draw connections between players until one of them is dead. It's tempting! but futile.
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Post Post #1229 (isolation #99) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:12 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1189, the worst wrote:I'm immortal pls recalc my lottery chances accoridntky
In post 1190, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1188, Eragon wrote:because most of the reasons are more like, post thoughts and tonal reads? along with a bit of playstyle maybe?
I suggest you don't get too emotional over these type of things.

In this game, capital locks and bold letters should only be employed when sharing gripping/convincing/important alignment indicative evidence against a player.





As I requested earlier... what important scum alignment posts / scum cases did I fail to engage / comment on / react to?
(It sounds like you agreed with Nauci).
caps and bold(i didnt even use bold) should be used to highlight/point out important things and things one feels strongly about, not even neccesarily in an AI way.

i dont neccesarily agree with Nauci, i was saying you twisting and misinterpreting her words was bad, becaudse she very clearly said
"i dont like how little Keyser has reacted to the past few pages"
Not
"OMG HES DOING COMPLETELY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND ITS TERRIBLE"
as you made it out to seem
In post 1192, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1185, Eragon wrote:ahh, the self-deprecation, always the distancing from yourself being scum, because scum isnt likely to point out where they did bad
FTR: "self-deprecation" doesn't just come from scum.
It is very common for
honest
townies
on mafiascum to be critical of their own game :good:
uh ya...

no
In post 1193, Keyser Söze wrote:The worst, who do you want lynched?

I don’t know what you’re currently doing.

Active lurking looking at the last few contributions.
>active lurking while Duck is on V/la but also posting in real time..
>???
>profit?
In post 1195, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1192, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1185, Eragon wrote:ahh, the self-deprecation, always the distancing from yourself being scum, because scum isnt likely to point out where they did bad
FTR: "self-deprecation" doesn't just come from scum.
It is very common for
honest
townies
on mafiascum to be critical of their own game :good:
lol no it's not

if people were critical of their own games town winrate would skyrocket here
:doc:
In post 1199, Toranaga wrote:volxen was townier than NSG.
so what?
In post 1203, Irrelephant11 wrote:VOTE: Keyser Soze
In post 1207, Irrelephant11 wrote:yeah I am
I don't think the things you've listed as a wifom towncase add up to town
he didn't know volxen would be the flip when he started to push against that wagon
he was probably hoping to (and almost succeeded) make sesq the lynch instead

but who's your vote now? nsg? hmmm
agree here.
In post 1208, Keyser Söze wrote:Dunnstral has a long list of surface level scum behaviour (none of them knockout factors like you say)
But when you connect all these pieces together you see a picture of a townie continually making the wrong choice:
Both tactically and in terms of keeping people happy.
>towny can make the wrong choice
>scum is always right(implied)
>Dunn must be town becuase he makes the wrong choice a lot
>???
>more $$$$
In post 1209, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1153, Dunnstral wrote:Can somebody remind me why we need me specifically to post more in this game? I don't think I caught that
I will add this to my signature after this game regardless of what Dunnstral flips :lol:
I’ll actually be more impressed if this is scum-Dunnstral talking to the everyone like this, despite having the group scrutiny on his slot. Would even scum-TW get away with this?
this isnt AI at all, its just someone who really doesnt care to even bother reading the thread.
also, FTR i dont think TW would ever get to that point, where hes being asked to post.
In post 1210, Keyser Söze wrote:This game is about survival.
And Dunnstral’s supposed scum game isn’t helping him survive.

Scum-Dunnstral gets no benefit out of this or his remaining teammate: even if his partner busses, they’d get no town-cred.
It’s tactical suicide.

I believe scum are in my middle ground reads.
So what if his "scum game" is helping him "survive"
did volxen's "scum game" help him survive?
Does scum that gets lynched D1 "scum game" help them "survive"
Does anyone that die, does their "scum game" help them "Survive."

If your answer to those questions is "no", then you are correct and you proved your own point wrong
If your answer to those questions is "yes", I will question your sanity.

And does it matter about "Town-cred"
This game isnt called
"search for people that try to get towncred"
This game is called
"Forum Mafia"
where you need to look for people that look scummy and should flip mafia, not who votes scum and gets towncred and who makes mistakes that dont give themselves towncred.
In post 1212, Toranaga wrote:irrelephant, please take your horn outta your ass and townread keyser already thx
No.
In post 1214, Irrelephant11 wrote:well, "townread" being too strong a word here actually
I don't prefer him as my #1 lynch option

Have you actually responded to anyone's Keyser cases? There's some goodp oints
i should hope.
In post 1218, Irrelephant11 wrote:mmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg

I don't know this day has gotten unclear. I feel like I have good townreads but we can't agree who to lynch
where's Reundo
VOTE: the worst
spicy
In post 1220, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1210, Keyser Söze wrote:This game is about survival.
And Dunnstral’s supposed scum game isn’t helping him survive.
Scum-Dunnstral gets no benefit out of this or his remaining teammate: even if his partner busses, they’d get no town-cred.
It’s tactical suicide.
i think this is fallacious

the fact that someone may not be playing a
good
scumgame does not preclude that person from being scum. i know that my scum game certainly doesn't help me survive very long, and yet it's not as if i can just
choose
to not play the way that i do as scum.

basically, you boil someone's scumgame down to a matter of entirely choice, which in my opinion is not a very accurate picture at all.
^ basically this too
In post 1227, Irrelephant11 wrote:guys come sheep nsg with me
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Where I'm at: ready for a flip
id rather make the use of our time
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #100) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:15 am

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@ducky

even if your immortal you will still die before winning the lottery

@Myself

YAY I AM EXACTLY AT 100 POSTS. PRETTY NUMBER


p-edit: until now
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #101) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:19 am

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TOWN CORE

-Eragon
-Irrelephant11
-Toranaga
-Nauci
-the worst


Town based on what other people said

-Reundo

PoE Bracket

-Ausuka
-northsidegal
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral

Probably the town

-Ausuka

probably the scum
(yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum, but i know one of them wont, i just dont know which)
-NSG
-keyser soze
-dunnstral


these are all in order of strength from top to bottom.

So Irrelpephant is my strongest TR(other than me)
and TW is my weakest Town circle(still like 90% positive hes town tho)
Reundo is in his own category because i havent seen him do anything at all today and im just going based off what others say
Ausuka is my weakest SR
While Dunn is my strongest, although its very very close between him/keyser/NSG and i am happy to go any way
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #102) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:26 am

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oh my god its so hard to see that.

i dont know what im thinking thinking i can see that.

its almost impossible

/s

but tbh i havent really cased NSG, if they had continued "people pushing me are scum or bad" i woulda hard-pushed them, but they said its a joke so ehhhh
i think tora had a pretty good case overall, but other people are defending too.
thats why NSG is my weakest SR, on top of the fact a Keyser/Dunn Scum team could actually make sense(pre-flip associations. gotta love em good. /s)
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #103) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:30 am

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In post 1236, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1233, Eragon wrote:but tbh i havent really cased NSG, if they had continued "people pushing me are scum or bad" i woulda hard-pushed them, but they said its a joke so ehhhh
do you think it's a scummy thing to do or something? that sounds like you would push me just for personally disliking the "people pushing me are bad" argument

and while i don't disagree with disliking that argument i would question pushing someone over it
i 100% think thats a scummy thing to do, if you had continued it.

its an easy way to deflect an argument, especilly given no reasoning, as well as a way to hop into an OMGUS.

EX: Tora cases you, you pull that quote up. You dont respond to case. You vote Tora.

Its a way to get out of defending yourself and a way to vote people that think you are scum, all while being pre-ordained
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #104) » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:36 am

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In post 1239, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1237, Eragon wrote:i 100% think thats a scummy thing to do, if you had continued it.

its an easy way to deflect an argument, especilly given no reasoning, as well as a way to hop into an OMGUS.

EX: Tora cases you, you pull that quote up. You dont respond to case. You vote Tora.

Its a way to get out of defending yourself and a way to vote people that think you are scum, all while being pre-ordained
-shrug-

as an argument (especially it going as you put it) it's fairly ridiculous and i would never make it. i might make some specific variation of it (i.e. this person wouldn't be pushing me as town because of our history together, etc.)

in any case i still think in the situation you described you would be voting that person moreso for the things they do
using
that argument rather than the argument in the first place, i.e. voting someone fo rnot giving any justification or not responding to a case

not actually for the argument in the first place

although i guess this point isn't really all that relevant.
agreed. i dont SR your for it as it stands because you said it wasnt serious, and i mean , a ?meta? defense, like you said(the person wouldnt be pushing me if he were town because ....) thats one thing , its entirely another to just call them bad or scum because they think your scum.
but we digress
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Post Post #1273 (isolation #105) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:28 pm

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this may seem a bit off-topic, but what was the *general* read on dunnstral at the end of D1?

I dont mean individually, but did most people seem to SR him, TR him, or NR him?
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #106) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:35 am

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In post 1273, Eragon wrote:this may seem a bit off-topic, but what was the *general* read on dunnstral at the end of D1?

I dont mean individually, but did most people seem to SR him, TR him, or NR him?
still want this answered btw.

and im about to go catchup from what I missed
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Post Post #1293 (isolation #107) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:01 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1241, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1098, Eragon wrote:
In post 1063, Ausuka wrote:{Nauci, Irrelephant, Keyser}
{nsg, (will just trust nauci on this particular read since I'm low on towns anyway) dunnstral}
{Eragon, the worst, Toranga}
{reundo}

about here, i'm probably missing something
can you explain how you think reundo is your biggest scum?
can you explain how you think TW, Tora, and I are scummy?
can you explain your Keyser and NSG TR's?
Reundo is my SR due to my view on the gamestate (Mafia are comfortable now and this sort of town isn't the kind to ace a game based on today, bussing is therefore likely), Keyser things, and the fact he has a wide lynchpool of popular suspects that he's stating willingness to chainlynch. I am open to other ideas but dunn/Keyser isn't really one of those ideas, sorry. Although it doesn't matter what I think really.

Tor is an old read that just decayed over time, tw gives me bad vibes, you're kind of not readable for the most part and some things you do ping me vaguely. Like why am I suddenly 4th scummiest when you've been tunneling me this whole day?

NSG read explanation is in my readslist. Keyser feels genuine and I don't really get how he's meant to be scummy.
so your completely ignoring that Reundo spent almost their entire D1 bussing their partner?
>ok on tor
>can you explain the vibes on TW?
>ok, thats the first time ive been called unreadable lol, but why are you exaggerating the fact that I "am tunneling" you. I most certainly am not tunneling(all ive done is a case and a vote and a read) so im not tunneling, and your 4th scummiest because I find the others scummier.
>NSG Re: tor "Nauci is TR'ing NSG because NSG is doing ___"
>"I dont get how he's meant to be scummy"
U wot m8?
In post 1252, Toranaga wrote:I'll maintain that both wolves are in ausuka/nsg/dunn and if we kill all of them we win the game most of the time

if you wanna lynch dunn this gameday, I'm not gonna stop you.
agreeeeed. but add Keyser there
In post 1255, Nauci wrote:VOTE: dunnstral no time to post but I'll be slightly useful this way gl
cool
In post 1256, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1223, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1176, Keyser Söze wrote:Dunnstral:

- defends scum
- opposes wagon on scum
- attacks town
- encourages wagon on town
- not motivated (or happy to be seen to not be motivated) about scum hunting
- no pro-active urgency demonstrated while being the lead wagon today
- weak ISO
- zero town cred won from D1 (Volxen bud was there for the taking)
- zero motivation to gain town cred for D2
- Lame OMGUS read
- minimal WIM


Tora opened up my eyes to town read him via WIFOM.

Scum-Dunstral would never survive to LYLO playing like this.

Proof of the pudding: he’s been in nearly everybody’s POE today, and likely some people will even want to kickstart his wagon before the deadline.
like that same viewpoint is reflected here and in my opinion it's entirely counterintuitive - you're recognizing a lot of reasons for why dunnstral is scum and then coming to the conclusion that "no way would he make it that obvious if he were scum"

and to that i would say

sometimes maybe you should keep it simple and see what happens
True, sometimes the simple answer is the right one - but is Dunnstral really this shit as scum?
the fuck lol?
people make mistakes
people dont have WIM and play bad
People just play bad in general
People sometimes just get unlucky
and you are actually town reading someone for "being too bad to be scum"
can I have 10 of what your smoking?
In post 1259, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1257, northsidegal wrote:not sure how much of an authority i am to speak on the subject, although a line i remember from team mafia is "scum!dunn is incapable of original thought"
First of all, I'll argue that I've shown original thought in this game, I just haven't posted much admittedly (but so what?)

Second of all, I think that line was from salty guy who also incorrectly read me that game or something along those lines. Either way our team was 4 town in team mafia
you can't think of anything better to post than saying you've posted thoughts and explaining a quote that shows no meaning overall
In post 1264, Keyser Söze wrote:@Eragon - sorry to be annoying again but I don't think your vote is where your current reads are.

Would you say (Dunnstral, Keyser) has more chance of flipping scum than (Ausuka)?

Can you also explain why you labelled NSG “probable scum” too.
probably not, because att of posting reads(iirc) there were 3 votes on Dunn, who I didnt want to put to L-1, 2-3 votes on NSG, I was on Ausuka, and im still debating you.

I definitely see you and Dunn flipping scum more often then Ausuka.
IMO we Lynch Dunn > Keyser > NSG/Ausuka > NSG/Ausuka and thats a wrap.
In post 1268, Toranaga wrote:yeah idk man

I think dunn gets lynched regardless of this read on him

I think with you that at least 3 if not more people, that think the way he defended volxen doesnt really happen as svs. I'm the one who initially postulated this idea ITT and I think it's correct, but it's absolutely very very thin and his attitude/posts outside of that are not towny. it's quite the hero read given the context where dunn is just potatoing the game really hard.

I absolutely don't understand anything on your paragraph about NSG. also I think between her and ausuka, ausuka is a lot townier and the town between the two if there is one town between the two.
I disagree that someone defending scum is not SvS, I dislike reads like that, even if sometimes they are accurate.

In post 1275, Keyser Söze wrote:I do love Reundo’s novella-style reads on players. They feel like a warm blanket that re-assure me.

His work on Volxen D1 was exemplary. For those alone I elected Reundo into my top tier of town reads at the start of D2.

His recent post regarding Dunnstral strengthens my resolve not to hang Dunnstral today.

Reundo also weakens my desire to flip NSG D2 (pointing out their D1 actions surrounding the Sesq counter wagon was not the scum-optimal-play).

Finally, Reundo has re-opened my reluctant suspicion of Ausuka, who jumped off the Volxen wagon, to join the Sesq wagon, then finally rejoining the Volxen wagon. Even though I town-lean the Ausuka slot, those actions are scummy in isolation (in the conventional VCA sense). This is
my dilemma
In post 1276, Keyser Söze wrote:Right now, I’m basically left with TW and Eragon in my PoE.

That is the crazy world we live in.


If TW and Eragon offer their thoughts of eachother that would be great.
p.much hard pocketing of Reundo right here

and so you think Ausuka is scummy for their "bad/scummy actions" involving Volxen, but you think Dunn is towny????
:Lol:
also TW is town.
In post 1277, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1231, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Eragon
-Irrelephant11
-Toranaga
-Nauci
-the worst


Town based on what other people said

-Reundo

PoE Bracket

-Ausuka
-northsidegal
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral

Probably the town

-Ausuka

probably the scum
(yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum, but i know one of them wont, i just dont know which)
-NSG
-keyser soze
-dunnstral


these are all in order of strength from top to bottom.

So Irrelpephant is my strongest TR(other than me)
and TW is my weakest Town circle(still like 90% positive hes town tho)
Reundo is in his own category because i havent seen him do anything at all today and im just going based off what others say
Ausuka is my weakest SR
While Dunn is my strongest, although its very very close between him/keyser/NSG and i am happy to go any way
I don’t like this readslist.

It kinda vibrates a going-with-the-popular vibe.

I still don’t know why Eragon isn’t voting me or Dunnstral.

When I pressed Eragon what the nature of her scum read was of me, it basically sounded like for tonal/playstyle reasons, which is strictly NAI for me. Plus, I personally didn’t like Eragon piggy-backing Nauci’s attack on me. It felt like keeping the sustained pressure/attention on my slot without committing to a vote (which I would have expected to be the next logical step. Still no vote).

I don’t know why she has labelled NSG “probable scum” too. All I know is NSG was a viable wagon for a many (including me at some point today).

Why is TW in her “town core” too? I’m having a hard time t/reading TW, so please share this conclusive evidence of TW warranting “town core” status.
1. im a dude. not a gal.
2. yes. I said gal, but im not southern. deal w/ it
3. you can literally say "going-with-the-popular-vibe" to ANYONE with the same reads, yet you single ME out of the plentiful others that have these reads. think about it logically. If its POPULAR, that means that lots of PEOPLE think that, so everyone that has the SAME reads is "POPULAR." so you can apply this to everyone else. This is reachy, incorrect, and wolfy.
4. because I haven't gotten around to it
5. uh no, not play style reasons. and tonal not as in the way you post, but the what you post.
6. "piggy backing Nauci's attack on me" u wot m8? so just because I think your scum, and so does nauci, that means im piggy backing on Nauci? Nice deflection my dude, by not one that will get you far.
7. again, the vote I just haven't gotten around to, as ive explained
8. I already explained my read on NSG
9. I've TR The Worts since I joined this game, and nothing has changed that. I couldn't really care less whether you agree or not.
In post 1282, the worst wrote:VOTE: Dunn
head saying this is right but telling me dunn/aus are t/t
I think I'm wrong abt Dunn before Aus tho so stfu gut!
:3
In post 1285, Ausuka wrote:who is scum?

should I attempt to regain motivation for this game by playing on an alt or should I not bother?

how was your weekend?
do the reverse alt.

go main from alt instead of alt to main
EZ game
In post 1289, the worst wrote:
In post 1285, Ausuka wrote:who is scum?

should I attempt to regain motivation for this game by playing on an alt or should I not bother?

how was your weekend?
probably Dunn I guess but mostly because reading into other people right now is effort

:0 up to u if you have an exciting alt idea

my weekend was pretty good. I'm really exhausted today tho. how's yours going?
what is
YOUR
read on Dunnstral little duckling 0.0.
and dont say scum, can you give something on it?
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Post Post #1294 (isolation #108) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:02 am

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and with that.

VOTE: /unvote

im debating whether I want to state intent yet or not.

Please stand by :yawn:
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #109) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:03 am

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uhh I screwed that up lol

UNVOTE: Ausuka
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #110) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:35 am

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Spoiler:
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mandatory hammer gifs EVEN THOUGH TW STOLE MY GLORY(also tora to a lesser extent)
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #111) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:39 am

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If dunn flips scum, i think the most likely scumbuddy would be Keyser, based on the weak "WIFOM" defense and stuff.

So lynching Keyser
should
end the game, but if somehow thats not the case i have to believe that my town circle is not wrong, and say the last scum is in NSG/Ausuka.
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #112) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:43 am

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In post 1306, Irrelephant11 wrote:yeah if this hammer flips red keep going down the obvious paths, it's worked so far
If it flips green do some re-evaluating but don't totally paranoia freak out till there's two mislynches in a row imo

also hi I'm back, hopefully I did indeed return to a solved game
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #113) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:44 am

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In post 1308, Reundo wrote:Meh, I'm not too happy with this lynch, but it is what it is. Let's see if we can't get some spicy twilight reactions from Dunn.
good luck trying to get Dunn online

We've been trying to this whole day
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #114) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:27 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1310, Keyser Söze wrote:I've always seen these type of lynches flip green, but good luck ladies and gents.
when Dunn flips scum im looking back at this.
In post 1311, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1305, Eragon wrote:So lynching Keyser
should
end the game
Me and Dunn were town I think, so yeah, scum is in your town circle.
It's all about re-evaluation though this game.
i dont need to re-evaluate when my town circle is perfect.
In post 1312, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1153, Dunnstral wrote:Can somebody remind me why we need me specifically to post more in this game? I don't think I caught that
Competent
scum don’t tank like this (unless scum-Dunn thinks his remaining partner can win the game from here).
or he just doesnt feel like playing right now or doesnt have time???
This WIFOM-y defense is very buddy-like.
In post 1313, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1276, Keyser Söze wrote:Right now, I’m basically left with TW and Eragon in my PoE.

That is the crazy world we live in.


If TW and Eragon offer their thoughts of eachother that would be great.
I was catching up on got here right about when I read this
In post 1277, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1231, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Eragon
-Irrelephant11
-Toranaga
-Nauci
-the worst


Town based on what other people said

-Reundo

PoE Bracket

-Ausuka
-northsidegal
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral

Probably the town

-Ausuka

probably the scum
(yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum, but i know one of them wont, i just dont know which)
-NSG
-keyser soze
-dunnstral


these are all in order of strength from top to bottom.

So Irrelpephant is my strongest TR(other than me)
and TW is my weakest Town circle(still like 90% positive hes town tho)
Reundo is in his own category because i havent seen him do anything at all today and im just going based off what others say
Ausuka is my weakest SR
While Dunn is my strongest, although its very very close between him/keyser/NSG and i am happy to go any way
I don’t like this readslist.

It kinda vibrates a going-with-the-popular vibe.


I still don’t know why Eragon isn’t voting me or Dunnstral.

When I pressed Eragon what the nature of her scum read was of me, it basically sounded like for tonal/playstyle reasons, which is strictly NAI for me. Plus, I personally didn’t like Eragon piggy-backing Nauci’s attack on me. It felt like keeping the sustained pressure/attention on my slot without committing to a vote (which I would have expected to be the next logical step. Still no vote).

I don’t know why she has labelled NSG “probable scum” too. All I know is NSG was a viable wagon for a many (including me at some point today).

Why is TW in her “town core” too? I’m having a hard time t/reading TW, so please share this conclusive evidence of TW warranting “town core” status.
qft
UNVOTE:
So should we flashwagon Eragon now or
you actually think thats a good reason? did you read my response, where, if I am going with the popular vibe, that means lots of other people share those reads, which means that other people are also going with the popular vibes, so picking solely me to call out for being popular, thats wolfy.
In post 1315, Irrelephant11 wrote:Hi Ausuka
I don't think you'll get a Reundo lynch, but I am curious if you're still scumreading him after his most recent post

Also did you wanna start a wagon on someone new
why would their last post be towny? jw?
In post 1319, Irrelephant11 wrote:For the record I think eragon has played a very towny looking game
And I need to review ISO before actually flashwagoning
But I think there's some good points about dunnstral being town and if he's scum I doubt he'll win with his play so far so I'm willing to lynch someone else today

ausuka has appealed to my emotions somewhat successfully and in a more towny than scummy way imo, nsg is almost definitely town as are nauci/keyser/tor/reundo

So I'm ready to lynch eragon or tw and leave the lynchbait around for tomorrow
If I should be aiming for ausuka someone convince me in real time

pedit: I think you should be townreading most of his posts, though maybe not his activity
why would you ever not lynch someone because "i doubt he'll win like this"

i agree reundo is towny overall
In post 1321, Keyser Söze wrote:I’m currently thinking a one-on, one-off theory regarding the Dunn wagon.


Eragon’s “readlists” isn’t even a readslist if you break down his individual reads, it’s a ‘this is a wagon I would jump on’

Im wondering how sincere all those ‘town core’ reads are actually town (what strength and why) and why he is scum reading his ‘probably scum’, which may even be null reads. Is it in fact a mere PoE list?

I.e I want to see a real readslist tiers (e.g town lean, scum lean, null scum lean).
my readlist is a PoE list. this game i feel a lot more confident in my TR's, and we have the numbers to back it up, especially once we lynch dunn and he flips scum. that will give us like 7 v 1 or smth. ( i didnt do maths i just guessed) with an eternal watcher. with those odds its nigh impossible to lose, so im perfectly good PoE'ing the shit out of this game.

the Town Core is absolutely sincere and Im like 90% confident its correct. im 100% confident in Tor, Nauci, Irrelephant, and me, and slightly less confident on TW, but still confident. All of my "town core" reads are people im never supporting a wagon on, unless its the only other option.

A PoE list is 100% viable and there is no reason it is bad, especially when i have narrowed it down to 4 people and we have 2(or more) mislynches and 2 scum. which gives us a 100% chance to win.

The tiers should be obvious.
Towncore= always town
Town because others say so= i havent seen anything but others say that Reundo wouldnt hard-bus volxen D1 and i did read that, so i trust that
PoE bracket is everyone i dont townread
Probably the town is the person i see flipping scum the least
Probably the scum is the 3 people i SR the most.
In post 1322, Keyser Söze wrote:At least Eragon has a chance to vote/hammer Dunn now.
He’s been pushing my lynch and Dunn’s all D2 (or at least linking the chain lynch too) without committing to either wagon.
i dont always commit with a vote, nor is a vote mandatory to put my thoughts across. also, i did explain att why i did not place a vote, but you seem to be incessently tunneling that point.
In post 1327, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1325, Ausuka wrote:How would you feel about lynching Eragon?
no u answer
YOU HAVE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!
In post 1328, Ausuka wrote:I would be okay with lynching Eragon.
why do you want to lynch me?
PoE is an acceptable answer
In post 1329, the worst wrote:Dunn has been wolfy
Dunn is l-1 and has disappeared
Dunn is good at town and can be awkward as scum
why the fuck would we lynch anyone else but that D:
also Eragon feels like his fingers are bleeding as much as his heart I might need to reacquaint myself with his scum meta before I'm OK with a lynch there

P.S. sent you a gift Ausuka, hope it hatches a regional!
^this man knows whats up.

In post 1330, Irrelephant11 wrote:yeah after a number of hours I am still good with a dunnstral lynch
but that fake twilight got boring u kno
so I had to unvote

VOTE: dunnstral
you should always still be good lynching dunn
In post 1331, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1329, the worst wrote:Dunn has been wolfy
Dunn is l-1 and has disappeared
Dunn is good at town and can be awkward as scum
why the fuck would we lynch anyone else but that D:
also Eragon feels like his fingers are bleeding as much as his heart I might need to reacquaint myself with his scum meta before I'm OK with a lynch there

P.S. sent you a gift Ausuka, hope it hatches a regional!
I can vibe with this

I don't think lynching eragon makes any sense today

dunn, ausuka and NSG are all being kinda obtusely unhelpful, but at least with ausuka I can vibe with her feelings and I think her emotions are genuine. I agree dunn's d2 was scummy, and he is a slot we're flipping as soon as we lynch anyone else and they don't flip scum, cause even dunn defenders have him POE'd down. we should just commit to this lynch now and move on, before we all lose any will to keep playing. I'm sure we're all bored by now.
tired. maybe
busy. maybe
Can barely get on. maybe
Bored. NEVER
/s
fr tho, im not bored yet, im actually really really vibing this game right now.
probably my favorite game on MS so far
In post 1334, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1324, Irrelephant11 wrote:Ausuka
Eragon
the worst
Dunnstral
Good PoE.

Mine: Same names, different order for me though. I'd have Dunstral most likely to flip town from those names.
Re: Keyser: "You are going with the popular reads here in your PoE list"

but seriously.
he calls me out for doing a PoE bracket that "is popular"
then he says Irrelephant has a GOOD PoE bracket.
why is one PoE bracket good and another is bad?
also, he says "same names" and looking at the names
Ausuka, dunn, TW, and me
those are p.much all "popular" reads.
so what he's calling me out on, he's doing himself.
this hypocrisy.
In post 1337, Toranaga wrote:
In post 419, Eragon wrote:
Irrelephant11 wrote:we've got a couple hours might as well use 'em

Anyone else around?

@Huntress, what would you say if I told you scummy word choices were a reason to townread Keyser?

pedit: whatever you're thinking

Spoiler:
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i mean, there 4 posts dont really have much to read off, tbh id read them more off the flips.

If volxen is town then i might look at them/sesq a bit more, but if Volxen is mafia i think huntress is going to be quite towny.
i know bussing is a possibility, but how easy is it to just come in, state intent to hammer, and vote sesq?
Instead, they came into the thread, gave a few starting reads, then said they dont want a sesq lynch and voted Keyzer.
then said they're fine with volxen, but preferably not sesq, so more defending sesq, who was at (L-1 was it?) and a few more reads.

so if i had to make a read right now i think id give them a town lean for their posts
I find the excessive associatives with the volxen flip quite alarming, especially considering eragon had just subbed in 2 hours ago. this feels very unnatural from a recent replacement.
i was actively going through Volxen's ISO and I saw Volxen hard pushing Huntress's slot(2.718) and i didnt think scum would hard-bus their partner D1 and the stuff i said about Huntress having a chance to hammer without lynching their buddy.
i dont see 4-5 lines as excessive really, but you do you.
In post 1343, Toranaga wrote:irrelephant is definitely town

I'm 1/3 of the way through eragon and yeah, he is very LAMIST, but if I were to scum case him it'd be over nitpicky things/reactions he had that aren't quite right as town. he is a slot to resolve down the line IMO, not for the next 2 gamedays.

kinda vibing with ausuka being town btw.
can you point out whats LAMIST-y?
(Also, i really hope you can resolve me in the next 2 gamedays, because by then the game should be over lol)
In post 1344, Toranaga wrote:anyone should be able to townread keyser
why?
In post 1345, the worst wrote:ye scum Dunn = town Keyser as well imo

town!Keyser is kind of a sheep in a wolf's clothes :lol:
how are their interactions indicative of Tkeyser and Wdunn?
if anything i see it as SvS or Wkeyser and Tdunn, based on the defending and WK'ing Keyser is doing of an inactive slot thats being lynched.
enlighten me

In post 1349, Keyser Söze wrote:just for fun I'm gonna post every time Eragon has shaded something NAI I've written or expressed suspicion over something I've posted:

"So lynching Keyser should end the game"
"i think the most likely scumbuddy would be Keyser"
"agreeeeed. but add Keyser there"
"can I have 10 of what your smoking?"
"I definitely see you and Dunn flipping scum more often then Ausuka."
"IMO we Lynch Dunn > Keyser > NSG/Ausuka > NSG/Ausuka and thats a wrap."
"p.much hard pocketing of Reundo right here"
"This is reachy, incorrect, and wolfy"
"Nice deflection my dude, by not one that will get you far."
"on top of the fact a Keyser/Dunn Scum team could actually make sense"
"i was saying you twisting and misinterpreting her words was bad"
"ahh, the self-deprecation, always the distancing from yourself being scum, because scum isnt likely to point out where they did bad"
"so dont try to twist their words to make it seem like you are doing as much as everyone else and that they are wolfy reaching."
"this is subtly shading dunn and subtly saying "I'm town""
"probably the scum"
"yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum"
"honestly fucking stop saying this BS"
"how is there nothing scummy about keyser?"
"its just a way to deflect the attention IMO"
"but i havent seen much presence from you recently either, i know you've had a lot of posts, and probably just RL stuff(understand) but you have lost activity"
"probably the scum"
"if both scum arent in {Dunn, Ausuka, Keyser, NSG, maybe Reundo) i need help."
"also what i mean by this is that this post is super scummy."




...still waiting for him to vote me. All I know is he has my lynch lined up after Dunnstral's (who he's still not voted...)


I need advice from a neutral party:

Does this look like confirmation bias? Or someone suspiciously chaining misslynches / linking a townie-to-scum?
what is the point of this? pointing out what ive accused you of?
i did already explain why i voted, and AGAIN your deadset focused and tunneling the fact that I didnt vote you or dunn...
In post 1353, Irrelephant11 wrote:VOTE: Eragon
can you explain why you think i am scum?
again, PoE is an acceptable answer, but not one i can really respond to
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #115) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:29 am

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In post 1355, Keyser Söze wrote:@Dunn - why do you suspect Eragon?
you ask dunn but none of the other people that voted/called me scum.

interesting...
In post 1358, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1356, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1349, Keyser Söze wrote:I need advice from a neutral party:

Does this look like confirmation bias? Or someone suspiciously chaining misslynches / linking a townie-to-scum?
@Irrelphant11 - what does it look like to you?

You are a good person to ask as you scum read me in our last game.
wow shucks this is a good point
He does look a lot like I did that game
man idk anymore
if you couldn't tell :lol: :lol: :lol:


pedit: Ewo yes I like walking y do u ask
what?
In post 1359, Keyser Söze wrote:VOTE: Eragon

Probably gonna stay here for the rest of D2.

Dunnstral vs Eragon wagons competing makes most sense in my reads universe. Not going to give any town-scum, scum-scum association theory until we see a flip.
kay.
In post 1360, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1355, Keyser Söze wrote:@Dunn - why do you suspect Eragon?
feels kind of detached from the game

the damn irony LOL
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #116) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:30 am

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O GAWD THE BBCODE
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #117) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:30 am

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VOTE: Dunnstral

ye its time to end this
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Post Post #1369 (isolation #118) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:32 am

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In post 1368, the worst wrote:BRO COME ON
VOTE: Eragon
what 0.0
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #119) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:33 am

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In post 1370, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Eragon
lol the OMGUS here
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Post Post #1373 (isolation #120) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:34 am

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>dunnstral rarely appears in thread
>calls me scum for being detached
>i vote him
>he votes me right away
>???
>huge profit??????
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #121) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:36 am

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In post 1374, the worst wrote:> eragon pushes scum!Keyser without voting
> wagon on Dunn forms
> eragon is called out as scum
> eragon hops onto Dunn wagon near lynch with classic mislynch "let's end this" rhetoric
>ive been calling dunn scum all day
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #122) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:36 am

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also, dunn has had a wagon p.much all day
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #123) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:39 am

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In post 845, Flicker wrote:Votecount 2.08

Dunnstral (2)
- northsidegal , Irrelephant11
Ausuka (2)
- Dunnstral , Toranaga
Reundo (1)
- Ausuka
Toranaga (1)
- Reundo
Keyser Söze (1)
- Nauci

Not voting: Eragon, the worst , Keyser Söze

The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).
dunnstral has been either tied for the lead wagon or the lead wagon ever since this post.
In post 1377, the worst wrote:you're attacking the rhetoric and structure of my argument not the content

is it exaggerated? why would town!me vs. scum!me exaggerate it and load it with rhetoric? what does it tell you about my slot and my push on you rn?
fine

>i dont always NEED to vote to push someone or call someone scum. A vote is a weapon, not a tool.
>the wagon on dunn HAS been formed, as i showed above, so that means really nothing
>yes i was called out as scum, so what?
>i hop on the dunn wagon because im good with ending the day here
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #124) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:41 am

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In post 1377, the worst wrote:you're attacking the rhetoric and structure of my argument not the content

is it exaggerated? why would town!me vs. scum!me exaggerate it and load it with rhetoric? what does it tell you about my slot and my push on you rn?
i feel you exxagerated it a little, it could just be your perspective so i dont really think its a towny tell or a scummy tell, just your PoV.
Your push is fine, albeit maybe *slightly* reachy, but ive certainly seen town be reachy at times, so again, hard to make a read on that
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #125) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:45 am

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In post 1380, the worst wrote:you don't have a strong read on me and don't feel misrepped atm?
no issues with the case on scum!you floating around rn?
i do have a pretty strong TR on you, what?

i feel you exaggerated it a bit, as i said, but again, different people read things in different ways, so im not considering it scummy if you read it that way, at least the first time.

And if the case is what you showed, then no, because i refuted it and explained it, so what else do i have to worry about?
if theres another case, i would LOVE to see it
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #126) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:50 am

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In post 1382, the worst wrote:mostly Keyser's recent posts but your read on Nauci early did feel p icky too

i didnt know his recent posts were meant to be a case :lol: :lol: :lol:

did you mean pockety?
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #127) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:51 am

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and if you think they're pockety, can you explain which posts and why?
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Post Post #1388 (isolation #128) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:53 am

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In post 1386, Toranaga wrote:
In post 492, Eragon wrote:No matter what volxen flips he’s always the lynch
this is bad phrasing :/
why?

i thought i had explained myself.

If they were the watcher, then they just Nk'd anyways and we dont have a chance to catch scum at night.

If they were backup faking watcher, then umm, lets not talk about that

If they were scum faking watcher, yip-hip-hooraY!
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #129) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:54 am

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In post 1387, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1373, Eragon wrote:>dunnstral rarely appears in thread
>calls me scum for being detached
>i vote him
>he votes me right away
>???
>huge profit??????
You should have voted him pages ago. Or me.

Again, looking at your recent posts more linking me with Dunnstral:

"when Dunn flips scum im looking back at this."
"This WIFOM-y defense is very buddy-like."
"if anything i see it as SvS or Wkeyser and Tdunn, based on the defending and WK'ing Keyser is doing of an inactive slot thats being lynched."



Why are you repeating yourself?

The association tells don't even make sense anyway :lol: you think scum-keyser has been hard-defending scum-Dunn? :giggle:
you very well could be hard-defending dunn.
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #130) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:55 am

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also, i just remembered still no one has answered,

what was the general read on Dunn at the end of D1
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #131) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:56 am

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In post 1393, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1385, Eragon wrote:and if you think they're pockety, can you explain which posts and why?
the piggy backing.
the unsupported top town read of nauci in your town core.
1. i was asking TW specifically, because hes the one who called me on "pocket-y read on nauci"
2. what piggy backing?
3. Nauci is playing the literal definition of town.
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #132) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:00 pm

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In post 1395, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1392, Eragon wrote:also, i just remembered still no one has answered,

what was the general read on Dunn at the end of D1
I don't think I paid any attention to dunn. NSG was scumreading him and I think that's mostly it as far as anyone taking any stance on dunn.
finally gets me somewhere. cool

now.

i think there should be daychat based on it being MS norm and shows in the online setup spec, but just to be sure

@Ficker
is there mafia daytalk?
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Post Post #1398 (isolation #133) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:00 pm

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In post 1396, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1390, Eragon wrote:you very well could be hard-defending dunn.
Scum-keyser busses both Volxen and Dunn and sails to easy victory 100 times out of 100.

I wouldn't put myself through all this bullshit.
or thats what you want us to think

:shifty:
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #134) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:01 pm

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In post 1397, Eragon wrote:
In post 1395, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1392, Eragon wrote:also, i just remembered still no one has answered,

what was the general read on Dunn at the end of D1
I don't think I paid any attention to dunn. NSG was scumreading him and I think that's mostly it as far as anyone taking any stance on dunn.
finally gets me somewhere. cool

now.

i think there should be daychat based on it being MS norm and shows in the online setup spec, but just to be sure

@Flicker
is there mafia daytalk?
EBWOP

sorry flicker i didnt mean it uwu
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #135) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:10 pm

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In post 1402, Toranaga wrote:
In post 385, Dunnstral wrote:tinfoil theory: Eragon is scum and his partner(s) felt the need to welcome him in thread to try to seem like they're not talking in pt

Not a serious theory jsut something to consider I guess
but volxen also welcomed huntress 0.0
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #136) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:11 pm

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In post 1405, the worst wrote:
In post 1385, Eragon wrote:and if you think they're pockety, can you explain which posts and why?
p icky
pretty icky
pockety would be an interesting? read but not what I had in mind exactly
OH LOL.

In post 1406, Toranaga wrote:I'm not suggesting dunn is correct, I just think it's towny that he said that
you think him doing that is towny o.0
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #137) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:34 pm

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In post 1415, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1412, Toranaga wrote:
In post 491, Eragon wrote:Literally the only play is to kill volxen.

If we lynch him and he’s watcher, then someone else takes his place and we get their results N1

If we lynch him and he’s scum, GREAT!

If we don’t lynch him and he’s watcher, and he’s town, he dies tonight and we don’t get results for N1

If we don’t lynch him and he’s scum, we’ll then we lynch him tommorow, which is a day later than we should
this lacks nuance
My confirmation bias says it’s a bus post.

Perfect timing to try to get t/cred just as the lynch has all but been delivered.
You wanna talk about timing?
I replaced into the game, and made that post in under 24 hours of replacing in.
And there’s no other time I can feasibly make that post, as it was brought up when volxen claimed watcher.
So
1. I couldn’t have made it at a different time
2. I wasn’t even in the game at a different time
3. It was brought up by the fact hat volxen claimed watcher
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #138) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:07 pm

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Spoiler: My life
I walk a lonely road
The only one that I have ever known
Don't know where it goes
But it's only me, and I walk alone

I walk this empty street
On the boulevard of broken dreams
Where the city sleeps
And I'm the only one, and I walk alone

I walk alone, I walk alone
I walk alone and I walk a

My shadow's the only one that walks beside me
My shallow heart's the only thing that's beating
Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me
Till then I walk alone

Ah ah ah ah ah
Ah ah ah ah ah

I'm walking down the line
That divides me somewhere in my mind
On the border line of the edge
And where I walk alone

Read between the lines
What's fucked up and every thing's all right
Check my vital signs to know I'm still alive
And I walk alone

I walk alone, I walk alone
I walk alone and I walk a

My shadow's the only one that walks beside me
My shallow heart's the only thing that's beating
Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me
Till then I walk alone

Ah ah ah ah ah
Ah ah ah ah ah

I walk alone, I walk a
I walk this empty street
On the boulevard of broken dreams
Where the city sleeps
And I'm the only one, and I walk alone

My shadow's the only one that walks beside me
My shallow heart's the only thing that's beating
Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me
Till then I walk alone
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #139) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:07 pm

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In post 1428, Toranaga wrote:VOTE: eragon
why do you SR me?
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #140) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:08 pm

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In post 1410, Toranaga wrote:
In post 461, the worst wrote:I'm not the watcher.... I'm a duckling



duh
I'm impressed you weren't NKed n1 with the amount of TMI posting that volxen was scum at that EOD
why would he be killed for giving off TMI??

isnt TMI bad?
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #141) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:09 pm

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In post 1421, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1180, Eragon wrote:
In post 1142, northsidegal wrote:
Spoiler: rude comment inside, i apologize in advance
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i am about to start my catch-up, but this post deserves a special mention.

I don't give a crap HOW rude it is, you could be the dickiest person out there and it doesnt matter(your not, just an example, hence the could), because getting angry/being rude isn't really scummy/bad.

But when you start going "If you think im scum that means your either shit or scum"
that type if post is BS and if your town, i sincerely hope you never make a post like that again as town.
if your scum, go right ahead
what about this post?
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #142) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:10 pm

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In post 1422, Toranaga wrote:what if dunn, nsg and ausuka are all town
nice meme
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Post Post #1435 (isolation #143) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:10 pm

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In post 1426, Toranaga wrote:would NSG pick on a scum partner's posting style the way she did with kop?
:think:

you think I would be buddies with NSG
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #144) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:12 pm

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If your seriously decide to Lynch me over Dunn, I will accept it.

but please please please just remember to chainlynch Dunn and Keyser.

I am absolutely confident that at least one of these are scum, and I am fairly confident the other is too.

if for some reason one of them is town, the final scum is always in (NSG/Ausuka)

dont be a moron and Lynch duck
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #145) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:14 pm

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I dont see any reason why Dunn
shouldn't
be lynched today, but that could just be bias.

either way at least let me have some time to give out my thoughts, if it so happens I get lynched
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #146) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:18 pm

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In post 1437, Flicker wrote:
{snip}

Mod notes
@Eragon
: No, mafia do not have daytalk
so this interests me.

I'll have to go back to see if anyone implied mafia NOT having day chat, because that could very well be a scum slip.


Also, the reasons I was asking about people's reads on Dunn, was because in the case there was no day talk...

Dunn and keyser(lets assume they are scumbuddies in this world) go into D2 having lost a member d1.
Keyser decides that he will push Dunn for associations and maybe a self-clear.
Thats what they agree on during the night.
Keyser comes into D2 with a vote on Dunn and some pushing
Then, when Toranaga brings up a thought about Dunn maybe being town,
and Keyser hops onto that and holds it tight, even though its just a WIFOM read
The fact that there is no day talk prevents strategy, and increases the likelihood of something like this happening.
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #147) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:22 pm

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In post 1440, the worst wrote:
dayvig: eragon


it's been fun everyone
oh noes.

:dead:
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #148) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:24 pm

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but seriously, im not sure if your just not reading it, maybe because its in all my spoilers and what nots, but all of Keyser's pushes on me are reachy, misinterpreted, and opportunistic, as well as hypocritical.

He calls me out for a PoE bracket and "popular" reads, but then he gives Irellephant approbations for having a "good PoE list" and " I agree" when the reads are popular...
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #149) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:25 pm

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and his defense of Dunn is just

"scum wouldn't be this bad"


which is 100% false, weird, and idk how they could reach that conclusion
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #150) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:26 pm

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and has anyone even said why they think I'm scum except for kinda tor and Keyser?

I'm ignoring Dunn because he said "you feel detached" which is just ???, especially coming from him

feels like an easy way to get on a mislynch wagon
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #151) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 1446, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1432, Eragon wrote:
In post 1410, Toranaga wrote:
In post 461, the worst wrote:I'm not the watcher.... I'm a duckling



duh
I'm impressed you weren't NKed n1 with the amount of TMI posting that volxen was scum at that EOD
why would he be killed for giving off TMI??

isnt TMI bad?
knowing volxen is scum requires one to be the watcher, or scum.
not the watcher... because that was D1
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #152) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:32 pm

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In post 1445, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1431, Eragon wrote:
In post 1428, Toranaga wrote:VOTE: eragon
why do you SR me?
I'm starting to think NSG and ausuka are actually town, and my POE has been those two + you and dunn for a while. I think if you were town you'd be a lot townier than you've been, from that one game we played together. I'm scumreading some small things. I think dunn gets lynched tomorrow regardless of your flip.
understandable.

I still dont get why you people are turning a completely blind eye on Keyser, but I can agree with you on most of the rest.
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #153) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:33 pm

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sadness
In post 1447, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1435, Eragon wrote:
In post 1426, Toranaga wrote:would NSG pick on a scum partner's posting style the way she did with kop?
:think:

you think I would be buddies with NSG
nah, I think if you flip scum that likely clears her even
Oh I get it, you said that NSG wouldn't pick on Kop IF they WERE buddies.

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Post Post #1453 (isolation #154) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:35 pm

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Do you know what's worth fighting for
When it's not worth dying for?
Does it take your breath away
And you feel yourself suffocating?
Does the pain weigh out the pride?
And you look for a place to hide?
Did someone break your heart inside?
You're in ruins

One, twenty one guns
Lay down your arms
Give up the fight
One, twenty one guns
Throw up your arms into the sky,
You and I

When you're at the end of the road
And you lost all sense of control
And your thoughts have taken their toll
When your mind breaks the spirit of your soul
Your faith walks on broken glass
And the hangover doesn't pass
Nothing's ever built to last
You're in ruins
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #155) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:42 pm

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I need a fluffy ducky huggy 0.0
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #156) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:42 pm

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In post 1454, the worst wrote:c'mon stick with American idiot :>
too pumped up for my current depression

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Post Post #1458 (isolation #157) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:50 pm

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In post 1457, the worst wrote:I will have one of our cuddle division units dispatched
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #158) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:56 am

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In post 116, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 111, Ausuka wrote:
Spoiler: Keyser Söze
looks to be genuinely scumhunting? I guess I could see how he's being defensive but I don't think it's scummy to be defensive tbh. Also I kinda get where he's coming from w/ Reundo. I think he's wrong about 2.718 but like when somebody comes into the thread like that with a case you don't understand at all it's understandable that you would vote for that person.
I think you're the first person to understand my defensive disposition this game. Well done. Can I jump in your pocket? :giggle:
In post 111, Ausuka wrote:
Spoiler: Irrelephant11
I think I kinda understand where his tr on nsg is coming from in that she was being gamesolvy? In general I find his posts as, uh, "adequate" more than anything else. I don't exactly scumread his approach but it's also not that towny and I don't get why he's fixated on Dunnstral specifically; what thoughts are people supposed to have about Dunnstral considering he's only made one mechanic-related post back in RVS?
If Dunnstral flips red I would actually wanna put Irrelephant under closer inspection (i.e ill-timed/ill-formed distancing attempt). Or vice versa. I've enjoyed talking to Irrelephant11 so he's on the green side of null so far.
In post 111, Ausuka wrote:
Spoiler: Reundo
I kinda dislike his entrance. Like, with Sesq and Keyser, I can see both sides - I don't think keyser's opening was LAMIST but I can totally see how somebody could see it that way. I almost feel like he's trying to push Keyser? but holding back for some reason. I don't see how it's really supposed to be scum-indicative for someone to dislike their posts being portrayed as lamist. The whole scum daychat thing appears to be kinda irrelevant? Like, I don't see the argument that Keyser as scum for some reason uses scum daychat as an example of something NAI whereas town!Keyser acknowledges it's NAI and moves on. What could the scum motivation ever be for lying in such an insignificant way? I also don't get why it's scummy to say "this is NAI" when someone pushes you for things you think are NAI. I also don't see how it's scum motivated to stop talking about his sr on Sesq as scum; I don't think scum would really mind repeating the same thing over and over at all? And why does scum!keyser pretend to forget about hypoclaiming? Like I might just be being stupid but I don't understand this at all.
Yup yup yup. Wouldn't mind some more pressure on Reundo. I don't know what and why Reundo is arguing. I realise I'm an easy player to provoke, but he's got to start looking at the whole playerlist, and be less fixated on this
scum-day-chat/"defensive"/hypoclaiming/"driving discussion away"
scum theory non-sense. It's arguing over fluff which is concerning. Even scum-me would be laughing at his scum case on me.
scrolling through the ISO of dunn i saw this.

Keyser starts off with a SR of Dunn by around post 100, and continues it through D2 until tora gives him an out by saying "Dunn could be town because WIFOM"

add this to how keyser said he would bus and save himself the trouble :igmeou:


Dunn Case

NAI, but I notice the vote on Sesq and it feels opportunistic in some ways.
“I'd rather be weird than scummy” who doesn’t want to be scummy at all? scum. So him saying id rather be weird over being scummy is almost a scumtell. And before anyone says Town doesnt want to be scummy either, Its a lot worse for scum to be scummy than town to be scummy, because if a town gets lynched they at least still have their reads and could solve the game before they die.
I think its less he doesnt agree with the vote than he’s confused because you voted sesq for no reason.
explains the vote, but basically just gives the reasoning “they’re focused on keyser” when its been 5 posts for them and 160 total posts. Theres plenty of time.
feels like a sarcastic shade of NSG
NANI?!
calls Volx towny but nothing on it, so could be buddies there.
Relating back to the shade of NSG o.0
defends volxen in a defensible way(that is to say, its a valid defense) but it still defends the huge momentum on volxen and lowers the momentum a bit.
YOU
Whats the problem with Sesq question dodging? Or are you just trying to sweep momentum off volxen still?
Valid read, albeit slightly opportunistic if thats the only reason for the read.
why arent you? The only reason you had given was the very beginning and weak. So why are you focusing on that?
im not sure if I can see this as anything but a scumslip. He called out volxen as scum and shaded me while doing it, then said “while not talking in PT” implying scum dont have daytalk, which is not an easy conclusion. So yes. This is a scumslip.
then also shades huntress.
finally appears outta nowhere and votes Asuka without reasoning. He says he doesnt like wagon uildup without disccusion, but he didnt give discussion
explains it 70 posts later, and its just a vote
sounds like annoyed scum. You had no problem posting D1 it seemed.
I dont see why they cant bring it up? Just because you dont post doesnt mean you HAVENT posted and that people cant make reads on you.
Shade
??? Shade or just over-defensive?
dense and detached.
you gotta love self Meta amirite?
[pst]1338[/post]Popular except irrelephant, so does Keyser call him out on this? no.
you dont believe their push? What? votes.
calls me detached. The sick irony.
I vote him, and then he direct OMGUS’s me directly after, and only 2 posts between his NSG vote. Also, hes never said anything about me all game except for shade with volxen saying welcome
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #159) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:57 am

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In post 1467, Nauci wrote:I don't know if it's alignment indicative that Eragon has the same psyduck.mp4 reaction to it that I did
psyduck 0.0?

where psyduck?

im quite... confused :3


ok got to get to school kbye
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #160) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:28 am

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In post 1534, northsidegal wrote:i'm fine with either a dunnstral lynch or an eragon lynch

i should note that i have't really put in much effort to read eragon but one thing i do remember (that the ducky pointed out, i think) was an apparent sudden switch to wanting dunnstral lynched right as a wagon on him was about to form, which seems pretty scum indicative
I’ve wanted a Dunn lynch p.much the whole day...
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #161) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:30 am

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In post 1537, northsidegal wrote:oh what volxen claimed watcher and got lynched anyways?

genuinely was not aware of this. i should probably reread that section of the game. i guess i townread tw a little less from what i've read (going back to my thing about the associatives and such). there wasn't really any "theater" between the two but tw certainly seemed quite confident in volxen flipping scum. not sure right now how to evaluate that.
Yes, becuase w shave backups, we don’t want to have a claimed TI alive going into the night, as we lose a night of results
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #162) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:30 am

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In post 1539, the worst wrote:lynch Eragon not Dunn
the fuck
The fuck indeed
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Post Post #1545 (isolation #163) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:30 am

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In post 1541, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: eragon
What is
your
reasoning for SR’ing me?
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #164) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:34 am

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@nauci

I agree with you on Keyser being scum, but I feel more strongly about Dunn being scum, and it seems you think Dunn might be scum too?
Vote Dunn today, we lynch scum, and then tommorow you can push Keyser and we can sort that out
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #165) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:46 am

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In post 1549, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1545, Eragon wrote:
In post 1541, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: eragon
What is
your
reasoning for SR’ing me?
your Dunn/Keyser team is really :v and your play just kind of feels slimy. like you clearly went into your case with the intent that Dunnstral should come out looking worse than he did before it and I don't at all get where your high confidence in every read comes from.

also I don't think you've wanted Dunn lynched for the entire day. You wanted me dead p much that entire time.

It's kind of late so sorry if this doesn't make sense, it makes sense in my head.
Why is my Dunn/Keyser team bad at all?

Keyser is walking on eggshells around Dunn, first going from scum to town and now scum again, while Dunn is just... you know... not here?

What about my play is bad?

About the case, well, that’s what I read into it when I made my read, I was just putting my reads into words.
So why shouldn’t it make him look scum if that’s where my read comes from?

The confidence is from the amount of transparent townies this game and just easy reads.
Irrelephant11, Nauci, And Tor are playing like an innocent Child, while TW is pretty natural and I feel towny.
That leaves only 4 people to be in the renaming scum, and I am fairly confident the two are Keyser/Dunn.
That’s not a 100%, just a fairly confident.

I’ve had Dunn in my top 2 SR’s for the day.
I’m not sure if I’ve ever voted, until recently, but as I said before, I vote as a weapon, someone I actively want to kill. I don’t vote as a tool to show who I think is scum. I vote to kill.
So when I had my vote on you, you were my strongest SR. Then around where I started SR’ing Keyser and Dunn more than you(I didn’t change votes becuase closeness to lynch on Dunn.) that’s when I re-valuated my read on you
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Post Post #1552 (isolation #166) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:48 am

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Also, the fact that your talking about MY confidence is ???

Keyser went from hard-defending Dunn with nothing but WIFOM read, and then he suddenly switches to
“If Dunn flips town I’m replacing out”
That’s literally staking his part of the game on dunn’s Flip being red.

If that’s not confidence, then I don’t know what is
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Post Post #1553 (isolation #167) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 1102, Eragon wrote:
In post 938, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Nauci
-Toranaga
-Eragon
-the worst
-Irrelephant11

Town based on what other people said

-Reundo

PoE Bracket

-northsidegal
-Ausuka
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral

Probably the town

-dunnstral


probably the scum
(yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum, but i know one of them wont, i just dont know which)
-keyser soze
-NSG
-ausuka
New and improved with pretty colors too :3
Actually looking back I realized that Dunn wasn’t always in my top 2 reads, but honestly I forget what happened here
0.0

I don’t remember my progression on why I put Dunn in the “town out of PoE” block
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Post Post #1554 (isolation #168) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:51 am

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In post 938, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Nauci
-Toranaga
-Eragon
-the worst
-Irrelephant11

PoE Bracket

-northsidegal
-Ausuka
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral
-Reundo

Probably the town

-Reundo
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probably the scum

-keyser soze
-dunnstral
-ausuka
I did have it earlier back here tho
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #169) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:56 am

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In post 1531, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1496, Keyser Söze wrote:I’ll take it as a compliment you are scum reading me.

If Eragon is actually town who is trapped in confirmation bias / suffocating paranoia, so be it.

All my actions (even though innocent and NAI) are being scum read by Eragon and Nauci - but I’m ok with that. I like the content and rationale behind Nauci’s other reads though. If she opposes the Eragon lynch strongly there’s only one way to go and end today:

Dunn’s flip
. the ultimate info lynch for D2. If he flips town, I’ll probably need to replace out though.
Don't replace out <3
in fact you've made this game very fun for me please be in more games I'm in
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In post 1492, Nauci wrote:
In post 1446, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1432, Eragon wrote:
In post 1410, Toranaga wrote:
In post 461, the worst wrote:I'm not the watcher.... I'm a duckling



duh
I'm impressed you weren't NKed n1 with the amount of TMI posting that volxen was scum at that EOD
why would he be killed for giving off TMI??

isnt TMI bad?
knowing volxen is scum requires one to be the watcher, or scum.
are

are you a time traveler
he claimed watcher, remember?

so if you're the watcher you might behave like TW
I can't decide if this is a smart note about tw being scum or a dumb outing of our only PR
Ausuka read the first part of this.

Thats the post that shows keyser’s confidence in Dunn’s lynch.

Which is my point.

He comes into d2 pushing Dunn, it looks like Dunn has a chance to live, hard defends Dunn with WIFOM, then has a Uber-confident scumreads on Dunn.
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #170) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:59 am

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In post 1555, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1552, Eragon wrote:Also, the fact that your talking about MY confidence is ???

Keyser went from hard-defending Dunn with nothing but WIFOM read, and then he suddenly switches to
“If Dunn flips town I’m replacing out”
That’s literally staking his part of the game on dunn’s Flip being red.

If that’s not confidence, then I don’t know what is
I really don't think that was Keyser being confident in his Dunn SR since he doesn't seem to have one?

Also that's still not explaining the confidence? It's still like saying "these players are town, these players are scum" just in a long-winded way. I can infer that you're townreading people for effort and tone?
Question: do you, or does anyone(excluding Dunn but whatever) not have an almost lock town read on tora/Nauci/Irrelephant11

The answer is no(also ignore NSG -> becuase that’s just NSG annoyed Tor is pushing her)
Which shows that it’s pretty obvious they are town

And I can see that too, and I am confident in those threee always being town, albeit slightly lighter on the fourth. TW.

I don’t see why there’s anything wrong with being confident in the obv. Town reads?
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Post Post #1560 (isolation #171) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:05 am

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In post 1558, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1552, Eragon wrote:Also, the fact that your talking about MY confidence is ???

Keyser went from hard-defending Dunn with nothing but WIFOM read, and then he suddenly switches to
“If Dunn flips town I’m replacing out”
That’s literally staking his part of the game on dunn’s Flip being red.

If that’s not confidence, then I don’t know what is
I’m not confident of Dunn flipping red. You have misunderstood my post.

I will lose interest in this game if he flips green.
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whats the difference?

If you think Dunn is town, then why are you voting him and why would you lose interest if he flips what you expect?
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Post Post #1561 (isolation #172) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:06 am

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In post 1559, Keyser Söze wrote:You should have voted for me or Dunn earlier,
instead of chain-linking us together ALL day.


If Dunn flips red, this will be very interesting.
legit lie right here.

ill go pull up posts
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Post Post #1562 (isolation #173) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:15 am

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In post 593, Eragon wrote:19999999999999% confirmed town{Nauci}
Spoiler:
kidding.



{Irrelephant, The worst, Keyser}
{toranaga, nauci}
{Ausuka, NSG}
{dunnstral, Reundo}


right now Im not very confident on the reads themselves, because I haven't had ISO dive time yet.
Basically this is just the strength of my reads, so the top bracket is my strongest town reads(but not, like, confirmed town, or "IMO never ever flips scum town")
second is town reads, but could sort of go either way
Ausuka and NSG are basically null
And dunn and Reundo are both small scum reads, but not very confident in them
In post 920, Eragon wrote:
In post 910, Irrelephant11 wrote:@ Reundo/Nauci/Eragon/the worst

You should put your votes on one of the two leading wagons or NSG
Especially Eragon/the worst should
VOTE: Ausuka

ill probably maybe do stuff tommorow but from what i've actually read of the thread i feel the most confident in this
In post 938, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Nauci
-Toranaga
-Eragon
-the worst
-Irrelephant11

PoE Bracket

-northsidegal
-Ausuka
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral
-Reundo

Probably the town

-Reundo
-NSG

probably the scum

-keyser soze
-dunnstral
-ausuka
In post 1102, Eragon wrote:
In post 938, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Nauci
-Toranaga
-Eragon
-the worst
-Irrelephant11

Town based on what other people said

-Reundo

PoE Bracket

-northsidegal
-Ausuka
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral

Probably the town

-dunnstral


probably the scum
(yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum, but i know one of them wont, i just dont know which)
-keyser soze
-NSG
-ausuka
New and improved with pretty colors too :3
i really dont feel like you could have accidentally missed this saying that i thought you and Dunn were scum ALL DAY
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Post Post #1564 (isolation #174) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:19 am

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In post 1563, Nauci wrote:
In post 1527, Eragon wrote:
In post 1467, Nauci wrote:I don't know if it's alignment indicative that Eragon has the same psyduck.mp4 reaction to it that I did
psyduck 0.0?

where psyduck?

im quite... confused :3


ok got to get to school kbye
just seemed like you were as confused by why he would post the stuff he did as I was
Oh I thought you meant I posted a psyduck gif.

And I was like

(Maybe I should post a psyduck gif now)
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #175) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:20 am

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In post 1184, Eragon wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 1152, the worst wrote:BTW for disclosure:
my main back of mind concern with Nauci is that her read on me is sloppy and I haven't seen a strong tell from glancing thru her posts

I'm still v v null on a player I don't like being null on which means I still need to put in quality sorting time :cool:

if anyone wants to engage me pre emptively on Nauci I would be fine w that
im still very confused at the tell, but IMO Nauci is quite transparantly towny.
In post 1153, Dunnstral wrote:Can somebody remind me why we need me specifically to post more in this game? I don't think I caught that
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
this is a mafia game. People need to post to make reads/find scum/lynch scum/win.
You haven't been posting. The game needs posting. People want you to post.
now start posting comments, especially if your town.
In post 1157, Toranaga wrote:IDK

nsg posts literally anything and everyone townreads her


let's just get shit through then

dunn is annoying as well. "why do I have to post?" well good job mate, everyone wants you lynched and this is your contribution
ya-ha-ha-ha-no. i dont.

agree about dunn
In post 1158, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1153, Dunnstral wrote:Can somebody remind me why we need me specifically to post more in this game? I don't think I caught that
also, do you know why? cause this isn't your standard potato mafiascum game. a lot of people in this are actually good. if all you do is roll over, you get POE'd down and killed.

so gj getting lynched dunn, was a pleasure playing with you my mate
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DA POTATOE
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In post 1148, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1146, Nauci wrote:
In post 1142, northsidegal wrote:
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Thanks for saving me from making a wallpost for 2 hours :o
don't let me stop you :wink:
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In post 1145, northsidegal wrote:is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?

not sure!
is this about me

I'm so lost
yeah. my was about why volxen's push on your slot as he was going down may not be a reason to associatevly townread you (which you agreed with). what did you think it was about?
I thought it was but get reeeeaaally paranoid-awkward when there's room for misinterpretation

like the same feeling as when I'm on a sidewalk with someone coming the other way and we both try to dodge each other but end up blocking each other and I have to guess which way they're going and oh no ive fallen down a pit of awkwardness and will now cringe myself out of existence ok bye
relatable. have a nice day.
In post 1160, Nauci wrote:He has almost no sense of smell and I have a nearly super human sense of smell

He's Indian and makes Indian food with like 5x the spices so I can taste his food with my eyeballs from upstairs sometimes

Fish though

Fish oil sticks to everything
a super-human sense of smell for a super-cat
spices. eyeballs. smells.
sounds fun.
In post 1163, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1153, Dunnstral wrote:Can somebody remind me why we need me specifically to post more in this game? I don't think I caught that
Do you think you’ve solved this game? (In your last post you concluded I was scum - I think you’ll need to read a bit more).

If you don’t want to contribute anymore replace out.
the first part: honestly just stop. if your going to post that in nearly everypost, id rather you not post at all, "If you think im scum, you'll have to reread some more"
this is subtly shading dunn and subtly saying "I'm town"

the second part: I agree
In post 1166, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1128, Nauci wrote: [*]
@Keyser
Why did me scum reading you for the first 8 pages make you want to scum read/re-evaluate my slot? What would be the scum train of thought to do something like
My tone was semi serious: but tbh Sesq on D1 gives me enough reason to not lynch you today.

D2, your slot has been focused on killing townies. I just think you need to re-evaluate the playerlist.
OMFG. you may believe your reads are right.
you may think your God-like with all your reads and nothing is ever wrong.
You may believe your always perfect.
BUT YOUR NOT!!!!!
SO DONT FRIKIN ACT LIKE YOU ARE.

"D2 your slot has been focused on killing townies"
FROM WHOSE PERSPECTIVE????????????
just because Nauci pushes people that you THINK are town, DOES NOT MEAN that they are actually town.
so dont tell nauci to re-evaluate the playerlist when you could very well be wrong.

In post 1168, Nauci wrote:
In post 1166, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1128, Nauci wrote: [*]
@Keyser
Why did me scum reading you for the first 8 pages make you want to scum read/re-evaluate my slot? What would be the scum train of thought to do something like
My tone was semi serious: but tbh Sesq on D1 gives me enough reason to not lynch you today.

D2, your slot has been focused on killing townies. I just think you need to re-evaluate the playerlist.
Okay first of all, it's really bizarre for you to say "D2, your slot." While talking to me. That's some weird 3rd person round about stuff.

Second, my slot has spent more time declaring and protecting town reads thus far while I continue to work on my scum cases when I have time. So that's either confirmation bias refusing to see what I'm spending my time on, or a misrepresentation.
basically this ^, but i feel much more strongly about it
In post 1171, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1170, Nauci wrote:
In post 1166, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1128, Nauci wrote: [*]
@Keyser
Why did me scum reading you for the first 8 pages make you want to scum read/re-evaluate my slot? What would be the scum train of thought to do something like
My tone was semi serious: but tbh Sesq on D1 gives me enough reason to not lynch you today.

D2, your slot has been focused on killing townies. I just think you need to re-evaluate the playerlist.
It's disappointing how little you've engaged with all of the content from the last 5+ pages (while asking others to contribute more).
I’ve read and made conclusions.

Dunnstral and Toranaga are no longer in my PoE today.

I want to sort NSG and TW now. If I exit D2 with strong reads on either slot I will count that as a success.
the only success leaving D2 is either having 2 confirmed(FYPOV) scum going into D3 or lynching scum D2.
dont settle for just making a read on someone else.

In post 1174, Nauci wrote:
In post 1172, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1170, Nauci wrote:all the content from the last 5+ pages
Highlight which alignment indicative observations / scum cases you think I have ignored and I will offer you my take/read on it.
Otherwise, I believe I am up to date.
I want you to explain which things you reacted to and caused the updates in your reads.
^

also when(read:if) you respond to things i said, please dont quote the whole wall
also i had to unspoiler the "rude thing" to make BBcode work, sorry

I think this is where i first started to SR you
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #176) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:21 am

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In post 1231, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Eragon
-Irrelephant11
-Toranaga
-Nauci
-the worst


Town based on what other people said

-Reundo

PoE Bracket

-Ausuka
-northsidegal
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral

Probably the town

-Ausuka

probably the scum
(yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum, but i know one of them wont, i just dont know which)
-NSG
-keyser soze
-dunnstral


these are all in order of strength from top to bottom.

So Irrelpephant is my strongest TR(other than me)
and TW is my weakest Town circle(still like 90% positive hes town tho)
Reundo is in his own category because i havent seen him do anything at all today and im just going based off what others say
Ausuka is my weakest SR
While Dunn is my strongest, although its very very close between him/keyser/NSG and i am happy to go any way
And this is where I started associating you
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Post Post #1603 (isolation #177) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:54 pm

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wow... ok then...

im like 95% confident last scum is in (keyser/NSG)

i could see TW, but i just really dont...

VOTE: Keyser Soze


p-edit: Tora, those posts are hot damn...
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Post Post #1604 (isolation #178) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:54 pm

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convince me your town and convince me ducky is scum
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #179) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:00 pm

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In post 1579, Flicker wrote:Votecount 2.28 - FINAL

Dunnstral (6)
- northsidegal ,
Eragon
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Toranaga
, Keyser Söze ,
Nauci
, the worst
Eragon (3)
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Irrelephant11
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Dunnstral
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Ausuka

Ausuka (1)
-
Reundo


Not voting: N/A

A lynch has been achieved!
this is yesterday's final VC, it really tells us nothing, but when you put it to the VC at the top of the same page, TW was voting me, and when it seemed there was no turning back from a dunn lynch, he hammered.

also, he gave up his dunn TR with "eh, maybe i was dreaming it"

and then finally, his fake hammer on dunn for ?false spew?


p-edit:UNVOTE: Keyser
ill give ya time m8
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Post Post #1614 (isolation #180) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:01 pm

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uhh, that p-edit was really late lol
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #181) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:01 pm

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In post 1609, Toranaga wrote:last scum is actually incredibly hard to figure out and I can see eragon's posts on d2 as not w/w with dunn as well

I really don't know where to go.

are we sure nauci is town?
yes.

nauci is VT(vomit town)
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Post Post #1620 (isolation #182) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:03 pm

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In post 1589, northsidegal wrote:yeah

anyways
VOTE: toranaga
why do you think tora is scum?

other than the fact he's pushing you?
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Post Post #1623 (isolation #183) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:05 pm

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i see W/W interactions with dunn from both Keyser and TW.

For me i think solving those 2 are golden, with a backup side of fries being NSG.

(yes, i know i posted earlier that i was confident in scum being Keyser/NSG, but i changed my mind. sue me)
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Post Post #1625 (isolation #184) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:05 pm

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i see W/W interactions with dunn from both Keyser and TW.

For me i think solving those 2 are golden, with a backup side of fries being NSG.

(yes, i know i posted earlier that i was confident in scum being Keyser/NSG, but i changed my mind. sue me)
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #185) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:07 pm

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In post 1622, the worst wrote:
In post 1621, the worst wrote:
In post 1609, Toranaga wrote:are we sure nauci is town?
no
actually eh
probably
:igmeou:
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #186) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:11 pm

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In post 1630, the worst wrote:last scum is obviously good lmao
it's just in {Tora, Rel, Reundo} outside chance of Nauci everyone else is like too high town equity

can't really be bothered crossing names out if this bracket atm but i know I need to
who is rel?
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #187) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:12 pm

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LOL

you actually think irrelephant is scum here?
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Post Post #1642 (isolation #188) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:16 pm

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In post 1539, the worst wrote:lynch Eragon not Dunn
the fuck
In post 1573, the worst wrote:
In post 1539, the worst wrote:lynch Eragon not Dunn
the fuck
In post 1576, the worst wrote:actually I think I dreamed up reasons to townread Dunn
VOTE: Dunnstral
if this greens Eragon tmrw obviously and we have his partner in the fucks who tried to manipulate the wagon : ]
In post 1615, the worst wrote:KING DUCKLING
LOLHAMMERING SCUM SINCE 2K18

brb
i dont really think that these posts feel natural to me with Dunn interactions
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #189) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:23 pm

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its really weird...

becuase the worst is scummy...
and his current actions are scummy

but then he goes and calls 3 almost-lock-town scum, and votes...
basically closing off the easy routes.

so either TW
1. gave up because its like 1 v 6 or 1 v 7 or smth, and is just trying to through doubt
2. is actually town
3. scum WIFOM like you said
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #190) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:27 pm

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In post 1654, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1644, the worst wrote:early vote park on his rvs on Dunn doesn't actually feel partnery at all..switch to Sesq was legit and Rel jumped on the same E issues I had originally

yuck I hope this isn't scumRel or I'm fucked
Already said scum-Irrelephant has already won this game :P
But I think this is the same inquisitive soul that I played with in my last game. He’s had his nose and fingers in every pie this game. Not in a scummy/opportunistic way, but in a global scum hunting style. Plus, he’s had so many chances to misslynch my ass this game it’s not funny. Nauci-Irrephant would have powered through any lynch if they stood together.
pie?
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Post Post #1659 (isolation #191) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:32 pm

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In post 1658, Keyser Söze wrote:@Eragon - “If you say that someone has a finger in every pie, you mean they are involved in a lot of things. He very much likes to have a finger in every pie. He's a man with fingers in a lot of pies.”
(its a joke)

(like a cat for catnip. but instead pie)
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Post Post #1660 (isolation #192) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:33 pm

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In post 1653, the worst wrote:
In post 1651, Eragon wrote:its really weird...

becuase the worst is scummy...
and his current actions are scummy

but then he goes and calls 3 almost-lock-town scum, and votes...
basically closing off the easy routes.

so either TW
1. gave up because its like 1 v 6 or 1 v 7 or smth, and is just trying to through doubt
2. is actually town
3. scum WIFOM like you said
yo sp00kyboy engage with me so when you mislynch me you know where to lynch next :)
:twisted:
like I said, scum is always within (you, NSg, Keyser)
we good fam
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Post Post #1661 (isolation #193) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 1652, the worst wrote:viewtopic.php?f=11&t=76623

can someone better at meta reads iso Reundo in this game? something intangible is just missing.
eh ill look at it but I dont really like meta reads in general
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Post Post #1668 (isolation #194) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:37 pm

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In post 1665, Keyser Söze wrote:Why NSG? Eragon
basically PoE and some of the stuff Tora said was good.

I dont have much of a strong read on her, but I think if neither you nor ducky flip scum, then its probably them
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Post Post #1671 (isolation #195) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:38 pm

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In post 1662, the worst wrote:what if I told you NSG is 1000000% town
and keyser is 75% town

pedit: Thank you, just talk to me about how you ~vibe~ it
then id be uncomfortable and probably vote you
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Post Post #1676 (isolation #196) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:42 pm

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umm...

holy shit...

why...
no not why... how...
does Reundo post so much stuff
(this is about the other game)
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Post Post #1677 (isolation #197) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:48 pm

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eh TBh I am seeing a lot less activity/WIM in Reundo this game, but other than that its p.much the only difference,

I dont really like how he came on during the lolhammer and said "eh I dont really like thislynch, but whatever"
then doesn't come back to the thread during EoD, and instead parks his vote on Ausuka.

I think this is a bit too stretchy for a read, but the thought is nagging that he COULD be scum.

Just for reference, he had about 100 long wall posts in the link provided, while this game he has about 20 of them.

It could very easily just be real life and/or availability(I know firsthand), but it can also signify being frozen scum,

I still dont think I feel comfortable lynching him until we have like, no other options
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #198) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:51 pm

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In post 1678, Keyser Söze wrote:I guess Reundo would only be lynched if he got to the last 3.



His intricate scum case on me was so well constructed, painting me as Volxen’s perfect partner...
But I don’t see two scum trying to set me up like that for a single misslynch.
It felt more like a townie starting with a scum read on me, then turning everything I wrote into something scummy, and every thing Volxen wrote as a link to me. I’m nobody though, just a man with a vote.
my thoughts exactly,
but wait!
isnt...
every role something!
They turn into watcher when the real watcher dies!
so.. is this a lie!
/s
In post 1680, Nauci wrote:That's 3 players who see the same weirdness from Keyser this game and at least 2 of us aren't scum lol

People who hard town read Keyser: what's the thing that has you most convinced he's town?
Its weird, my thoughts on Keyser are so disjointed its crazy.
like... My brain is telling me its 100% Keyser,
but then my gut tells me its 100% not Keyser.
Im just confused rn
In post 1682, northsidegal wrote:yeah so my super scumread on the ducky was pretty much mostly a reaction test (didn't exactly get anything spectacular)

that's not to say i townread him (still think there's a decent chance he's scum, i'm just not as sure as i projected. need to do a bit more research and reading)

anyways, i would be surprised if this game wasn't won by lynching toranaga, the worst and eragon (maybe in that order)
remove me and toranage,
add TW and Keyser I guess?
In post 1684, northsidegal wrote:eragon scum being based off of how dunnstral came at me when i noted the punctuation thing about kop in much the same way that he only really showed up to attack the people scumreading volxen

ducky scum being based off of potential overconfidence in volxen's scumflip and maybe the eragon wagon / position on dunnstral day two (obviously given town!eragon if ducky!scum)

toranaga scum being based off of just my own personal scumread, as well as i guess the really weird way that his dunnstral read flipped like 10 times during the first few days of Day 2
I could see the Dunn read flips, but that also happened with Keyser.
In post 1686, northsidegal wrote:dang, will i have to give up my pet scumread of toranaga? we only have 3 lynches left really
yes
In post 1688, the worst wrote:I feel like yday is really anti associative for scum!Eragon like Dunn actually wanted him dead. I think him jumping at you on the grammar thing was probably more likely to be chomping down on lynchbait than defending a scumbuddy but that's like just my take

pedit: ya lmao
:D
In post 1691, the worst wrote:there's probably a world where it's just Era but I'm convincing myself we don't live in that world : /

his posting has been more or less ok too just some of his reads have felt a little forced
#relatable
#pikachu!
In post 1692, northsidegal wrote:hm, more i read of reundo more i think he's got a decent shot at being scum.
:yawn:
sad thing is I agree
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Post Post #1696 (isolation #199) » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:54 pm

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uhh

brainfart meant reundo lol
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