Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)
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Lol. What for?
You know scum governor getting to LYLO is an instant scum win right?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- Kerset
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I almost feel like scum wouldnt have gone for governor because it's such an obviously scummy pickIn post 27, Something_Smart wrote:Lol. What for?
You know scum governor getting to LYLO is an instant scum win right?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx- skitter30
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Oh? How did you reach this conclusion?In post 28, Kerset wrote:Draft choice is such huge source of information. With double role pick {8,9,10,11} are able to find out which roles were taken by top players. It's obv that both {9,10} are scum.
VOTE: AaronShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx- Something_Smart
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Probably not. But if anyone, scum or town, did, we need to know about it.In post 29, skitter30 wrote:I almost feel like scum wouldnt have gone for governor because it's such an obviously scummy pickIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- skitter30
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V trueShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx- skitter30
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Also flub why are you voting ss rn?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx- Sujimichi
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Sorry folks I'm going to miss most of today and tomorrow for work reasons. I will be back in tonight for a bit, but I'm apologizing for missing a decent bit of RVS.In post 31, Something_Smart wrote:
Probably not. But if anyone, scum or town, did, we need to know about it.In post 29, skitter30 wrote:I almost feel like scum wouldnt have gone for governor because it's such an obviously scummy pick
I think Governor is probably an instant scumclaim. Wasnt it paired with 5shot JOAT? Who would take governor over that?- Flubbernugget
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Town governor in lylo is an instant town win tooIn post 27, Something_Smart wrote:Lol. What for?
You know scum governor getting to LYLO is an instant scum win right?- Flubbernugget
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Scum trying to nk a way to out them if they quickhammerIn post 33, skitter30 wrote:Also flub why are you voting ss rn?- Flubbernugget
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No it's not? Scum aren't going to quickhammer if they don't know if there's a governor.In post 36, Flubbernugget wrote:Town governor in lylo is an instant town win tooIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- Something_Smart
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I'm at work, I have plenty of time to waste. Especially compared to all the incredibly productive things I could have been doing on page 1...In post 38, Flubbernugget wrote:If it's a role that you're only going to see scum pick why would you waste breath trying to solicit a claim?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- Flubbernugget
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...which is why they'd want the governor to claim, so they can guarantee that's not a possibilityIn post 39, Something_Smart wrote:
No it's not? Scum aren't going to quickhammer if they don't know if there's a governor.In post 36, Flubbernugget wrote:Town governor in lylo is an instant town win too- Something_Smart
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Sure, that's fair. It's slightly more convenient to scum if the governor claims before LYLO.
However it's also materially more important to town, especially if the governor is scum.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- Something_Smart
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Like you took what I did and assumed a scum motivation with a tiny benefit rather than a town motivation with a significant benefit.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- Flubbernugget
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It may not be tiny, but the way I see it, if there's a TvT vote in LYLO after massclaim, that voter's not likely to change their mind (although it can happen), and so even if the person they voted is lynched (not quickhammered) and it's governed onto scum, they're still probably going to vote them again.
This is of course a simplification, but regardless, I don't think that trying to fish for, and subsequently NK, a governor (which is a hella scummy pick) is at all a smart mechanical play with this many strong roles running around.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- Flubbernugget
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The Governor role in this setup is allowed to change the lynch to another player, not just stop it.In post 46, Flubbernugget wrote:What do you mean by governed onto scum?
1-shot Governor
~ Once the game has entered twilight (the final hammering vote has been cast) you have 24 hours to change who is being lynched. You may only do this once.- Flubbernugget
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Yeah.
You're not wrong about it being a scary role. But it's scarier for town than for scum.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK! - Something_Smart
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