Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

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Howdy everyone.

VOTE: TChill

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Wow, lots of posts for a Saturday night. Well here anyway.

Good to see.

My fiance went to bed already, this is the quietest thing I can do at night.

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Bad voting.

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VOTE: tchill

this has got to die. i rolled village btw glgl me

That's just rude.

VOTE: Killthestory

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engagement and adversity is the point on mafia, lol. it's not bad when we have a 1v1 thunderdome because it gives other players a chance to sort us and make opinions that in turn helps us sort them.

it becomes bad when you grow frustrated and the other player in turn. that's not the case, so i'd hope you'll continue talking to me because i'm genuinely trying to sort you, friend.

Serious question, is your shift key broken?

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VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

Found my mason partner

Awesome post on page one man.

Elaborate?

VOTE: Katherine
Serious vote I feel like this was an obv joke/being sassy and from what i've seen scum are more then likely to take posts more seriusly because scum know people are town so there posts are legit...I prob could've explained this a bit better but yeah

VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

It seemed to cause too much controversy and took away from the RVS stage.
And I like this new one better.

Did you change this before this game or while you were making your post

I was thinking about not mentioning it at all. But then when I went to post I figured I dial it back a bit.
I think it still gets the point across tho, don’t you?

Yeah I don't fully get the context on why you needed to dial it back because it seemed perfectly fine before and maybe some people are babies but eh

idk how to take Havos change if he said it was before the game that would've made it now saying he did it while he was posting could mean self conscious scum but the tone so far feels like town who genuinely didn't want to fuck something up.
Whew sr and a tr so far Maria you are on fire
Pedit: I don't think you should give tips regardless and let us see the reaction

Both these posts feel fake to me. I really don't get the "scum takes things too seriously day 1" BS, and the Havo thing is weird as well, even if she does land on town.

VOTE: Maria

I hate myself for this quote wall already by the way.

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I'm not liking Killthestory recently. I'm not sure if his "already solving the game" junk is scum trying to look like stupid town or just really stupid town.

I still like where my vote is, but

FoS: KtS

Otherwise to catch up off the top of my head:
I'm not loving what TChill has done so far.
Havo has been pretty okay.
Maria just gets a bit worse every time she posts.
Luca seems pretty okay as well.
Gamma seems like Gamma is every game, which means I can't read him day 1.
implosion is posting but I have no read on him.
Ausuka's biggest issue is that right now I can 100% assure you she is not voting scum.
Creature is participating and therefore likely not scum.
Cedric seems like he is trying to game solve.

don't need to push you, and didn't need to read the entire game.

This is exactly what I expected. You pick and choose the information to fit your narrative at all times. Just admitted to not looking at the whole thing in context. Which I assume is how you play to push you're agenda. I feel that you're agenda is superior town but I'm not one hundred percent sure.

TChill, can you just make very clear what your read is on KtS? I am so lost.

Also, this is the closest to an actual full read list you are getting, I hate read lists and hated doing this post.

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Luca - Null, not a fan of his tunnel vision early

Havo, isn't tunnelling more of a towny action, though? That's actually why I'm thinking townier.

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i now clearly remember why i originally left this site.

Because people don't just immediately bow down to the fact that you have solved the game?

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Not really game related but these long quote chains look super ugly and are hard to read. Can we not have them this long? At some point you can cut them down to include just a few of the previous quotes, losing no functionality

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Ausuka's biggest issue is that right now I can 100% assure you she is not voting scum.

Please clarify in what sense this is an "issue"; do you think scum are more likely to not be voting right now?

I'm saying as town, the only opportunity that might be available to out is to vote.

I can tell you there is no chance someone not voting is currently voting scum. I don't scum read it, but it's passive and not good for town. So, not scummy, but also anti-town in my view.

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Ausuka's biggest issue is that right now I can 100% assure you she is not voting scum.

Please clarify in what sense this is an "issue"; do you think scum are more likely to not be voting right now?

I'm saying as town, the only opportunity that might be available to out is to vote.

I can tell you there is no chance someone not voting is currently voting scum. I don't scum read it, but it's passive and not good for town. So, not scummy, but also anti-town in my view.

Also I'm not voting either so why are you picking on Ausuka?

As I said, it's the only negative I see so far from her slot.

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Thoughts on me overall then?

I have a town lean at this point, but its a light town lean.

I've seen a few questionable things there, though.

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Plus that last post wasn't...awful

I somewhat want to vote in aus/Luca/impo
I get cold feet when I wanna place a vote though I'm gonna assume that's cause it's 6am and for some reason I'm on a mafia site

So, which of these three is your biggest scumread, if you want to vote them?

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Killthestory seems to love to be the center of attention. I feel like he's too obvious of a choice to be mafia. Maybe it's WIFOM, but he's not blending in with everyone at all, so I'll put him in the probably town category and just label him as the person most likely to secretly be Chumba.

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Plus that last post wasn't...awful

I somewhat want to vote in aus/Luca/impo
I get cold feet when I wanna place a vote though I'm gonna assume that's cause it's 6am and for some reason I'm on a mafia site

So, which of these three is your biggest scumread, if you want to vote them?

An interesting question to ask someone you scumread I don't think my answer would really influence your state of mind. I want to vote impo because Aus engage with me made them less scummy then impo for me. Normally this is the part where I'd explain why I sr impo but ask me again at a later time frame cause rn I don't feel like it

Despite you being a scum read for me, wouldn't I want to draw out more information?

I mean, if my read is correct, I can still get some info from what you are saying, if I find out through some method that I am wrong, then I will have this information later.

I will take whatever information exchange I can get if it has the possibility to help later, plus maybe your answer, had you given a full answer, would change my read of you.

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Also, I don't scumread Luca.
I'd still vote him though

Why would you vote someone you don't scum read?

And I don't know if you can change my mind about my read unless you actually do it. Right now, I don't know that you need any further sorting from me, but I am willing to admit that I'm not perfect and sometimes people have convinced me through their actions, but being willing to vote for Luca when you don't SR him is... well, not exactly townie.

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implosion has 22 posts and I still haven't seen anything to be considered actually fully AI, that's a bit of a concern... I'm mulling over whether I want to put him to L-1 already.

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implosion has 22 posts and I still haven't seen anything to be considered actually fully AI, that's a bit of a concern... I'm mulling over whether I want to put him to L-1 already.

Have you found anyone who’s done scummy AI things?

I still think Maria. That's why my vote is there. I'd go into more detail, but technically I am working, so long post at work is not a great idea.

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implosion has 22 posts and I still haven't seen anything to be considered actually fully AI, that's a bit of a concern... I'm mulling over whether I want to put him to L-1 already.

Have you found anyone who’s done scummy AI things?

I still think Maria. That's why my vote is there. I'd go into more detail, but technically I am working, so long post at work is not a great idea.

any chance you'd go with a kts or tchill wagon?

I would not be against tchill wagon if I had to choose between the two. I'm not scum reading him but certainly not a townread.

As much as kts's posts are bad, I'm still more on a townie's bad posts which irk me for the style of posting rather than the actual contents.

implosion has 22 posts and I still haven't seen anything to be considered actually fully AI, that's a bit of a concern... I'm mulling over whether I want to put him to L-1 already.

Why would you want to put him L-1 at this point?

If I voted him there, it would have been L-1, that was the only reason I didn't vote that early was because I didn't want to put him at L-1 without more thought.

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Policy lynches are really stupid, we shouldn't do them. People will blame the rest of the town when they get lynched rather than look and think whether they could have done anything to prevent their lynch, the only reason I would policy lynch under some very very limited circumstances.

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Policy lynches are really stupid, we shouldn't do them. People will blame the rest of the town when they get lynched rather than look and think whether they could have done anything to prevent their lynch, the only reason I would policy lynch

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under some very very limited circumstances.

EBWOP. Mea Culpa, I forgot a verb.

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Policy lynches are really stupid, we shouldn't do them. People will blame the rest of the town when they get lynched rather than look and think whether they could have done anything to prevent their lynch, the only reason I would policy lynch under some very very limited circumstances.

so then you must have an idea on how to get mumble to participate. let's hear it.

ignoring = enabling and I am not down for that option.

Admit that this isn't about teaching Mumble a sort of lesson like you said in post [p]418[/p] and I'll consider it.

If you are going to policy lynch don't hide behind some bullshit that they are going to learn it's wrong to do and just admit you don't want him in your game.

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Killthestory seems to love to be the center of attention. I feel like he's too obvious of a choice to be mafia. Maybe it's WIFOM, but he's not blending in with everyone at all, so I'll put him in the probably town category and just label him as the person most likely to secretly be Chumba.

lolpls I don't think those two are the same people at all, they're both very aggro but their way of speaking is different. I recall Robb uses t/s and as you can see kts uses v/w

Lol. Yeah they aren’t. Trust me on this.

But you never know what might pop up.

Just saying......

Okay, to end this, the Chumba thing was a joke. I've had to point this out before, but I'm not funny.

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Cedrick's stocks are definitely falling in my books

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VOTE: Cedrick

I've seen enough of this dance.

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VOTE: Cedrick

I've seen enough of this dance.

so you've seen AI stuff from me? if yes what?

Yes, your posts.

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yeah, my posts show me trying to lynch my scum reads, giving the names of other people I find scummy, and trying to sort a player who is trying to not let himself get sorted. That is all town AI stuff so do you want to try again?

No, I'm good, thanks for saying you'll give me a second shot if I need it, though.

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I still don’t know why so many people town read me.

Ech this feels like scum trying to fake paranoia or smth

Add that in with him telling me he is doing stuff that is totally Town AI and he's again making no sense.

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yeah, my posts show me trying to lynch my scum reads, giving the names of other people I find scummy, and trying to sort a player who is trying to not let himself get sorted. That is all town AI stuff so do you want to try again?

No, I'm good, thanks for saying you'll give me a second shot if I need it, though.

ok, just don't want you making any excuses when i flip town.

I won't be making any excuses if you flip town. I'm just pursuing my reads. Sometimes I'm wrong, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop playing.

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I won't be making any excuses if you flip town. I'm just pursuing my reads. Sometimes I'm wrong, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop playing.

My issue was you supposedly had somebody you had AI reasons for and you wanted to hop off them for somebody you didn’t and then you vote me and you say you have reasons but you didn’t really give any.

Looks like you were trying to get off whoever you were voting for some reason and you didn’t really care what that reason was.

I mean, I look at MariaR's posts and think they are scummy, I also look at your most recent posts and believe that they are scummy as well. I personally have already expressed a dislike for walls of text, and do not feel the need to justify my vote to everyone unless I am going to actively push that scumread at the very moment.

If you want my full reasons, you seem to be less scum hunting and more feeling out what everyone else's reads are, looking for which wagon you can push. I did not like that I posted about implosion, and you tried to shepherd me over to TChill or kts, in particular and since then it has all been downhill.

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Cedrick's stocks are definitely falling in my books

oh I could have told you my stock was a bad investment. I have done nothing to earn all those town reads I had so people dropping them is par for the course.

VOTE: Cedrick

I've seen enough of this dance.

don't you agree with him that he never really earned those TR's? people kinda just gave him TR's.

Yes, even my read on him was exactly what it was early on, it seemed like he was trying to gamesolve at the time, but now he seems to just be looking to get people off of their lynch and onto his.

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VOTE: Cedrick

I've seen enough of this dance.

so you've seen AI stuff from me? if yes what?

Yes, your posts.

are you 12 or are you just purposefully chastising someone?

No.

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@mod just replace me, I'm completely checked out of this game.

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@mod just replace me, I'm completely checked out of this game.

Wait where did this come from?

I just find I don't like Normals, to be honest. I've been in three now and have not completed one because I stop paying attention. Guess I'll just stay out of normals from now on, sorry my dudes.