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[Tchill13]

its been a while since i've played with about half these players. should be fun.

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VOTE: RB

blatant sheeping because 2inamillion has the best avatar i've ever seen.

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so should we all just say we're town now at the same time or?

I didn't get the memo.

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That moment you get excited because you remember a players avatar and remember thinking "damn. they're good" but not good enough for me to remember their name. jk lol (aka lexa)

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VOTE: tchill13
didn't acknowledge my greeting

hello eth0s. I missed it sorry.

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I used to dress goth in high school. Punk gothic, choker chain and all.

I cant help but feel like rqs isnt the answer either. We must strive to progress.

Like, for instance, I played the first few boonitoons, but havent been around much. what has boon tried?

I believe this is your fifth BooneyToonz game. That’s the record, I believe. Tchill might be tied with that record.

I'm coming for you pisskop.

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I was born in the booneytoonz, molded by it. I didn't see a regular mafia game until i was already a man.

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well now ik not to type in color lol. Votes pile up quick apparently.

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well now ik not to type in color lol. Votes pile up quick apparently.

You are next for saying something so openly scumy.
Why would you be worried about appearances if you were town.

I'm not worried about anything in rvs...

Openly scummy day 1s are kinda my thing at this point lol. I've yet to see reason to lay down a serious vote.

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Also. Throw RB into avatars I remember playing with but not names.

If I didn't remember your name on this player list I recognized your avatar more than likely lol.

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It's definitely renedict bumperpatch.

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VOTE: heyoka

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Not too much on eth0s.
Tchill, why did you put heyoka at L-2?
Screenplay got way too much fluff there.
I can understand their reasoning on Heyoka there though.
Time is up. Will post later if we are still in twilight.

just to see what happened.

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I apparently need to read the past few pages... Oh boy

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What does lynching you first accomplish if you faked a guilty? Why on earth would you lie as town when there really wasn't a specific reason needed to? Did you just fake a guilty for the sake of the push?

I'm catching up rn.

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Man kookoo was doing so good with the "long page days" rant. I was totally feeling that. Then I come back to a fake guilty....

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Man kookoo was doing so good with the "long page days" rant. I was totally feeling that. Then I come back to a fake guilty....

Had you read that earlier?

I noticed it. Looked at my phone for a minute and I thought wow this looks like a welcome addition to people ik on site.

Then kookoo just admitted to faking a guilty because kookoo isn't capable of convincing people.

Figuring things out is just as important as being able to convince people. People shouldn't try short cuts to convincing people through lies. That's a terrible idea.

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So why even say we should lynch you first when you know good and well it doesn't accomplish anything?

Kookoo is probably town that thinks they know better than everybody else. I actually see that reckless play from town so much on site... I suggest if you place your vote there you at least have additional reasons.

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Kookoo could very well be right about screens alignment but that's the worst way to go about it. I'm not saying kookoo is right or wrong. It's just frustrating to see this "well I have to do it this way because people are so stupid" style of play from so many people.

I've yet to form reads tbh. I've just glanced at random parts of day 2. I'll be catching up tonight.

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Well a) he said quicklynches are good b) he fakeclaimed and c) if he continues to give bad advice then town will lose for sure. None of these scream town to me.

The advice doesn't matter I you don't listen to it. Why are you concerned about his word carrying so much weight?

Just looks like you're throwing out weak reasons to lynch him to me. At least C is.

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Ah. I'm controlling as scum. Noted.

I really, really don't think meta is the way to read me but I appreciate your willingness to put in that much effort.

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Because you knew you never should.

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Well hold your horses there 2inamillion. No need to rush for the "strongest case". Comparing things in a particular game that fits your agenda is not so good. Looking at that case and objectively agreeing there's really only one good point in it is much better.

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Hey carry on. I can tell you're not a bad player so I'm willing to give a little leeway.

Once I've fully caught up on the game I'll give reads.

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People play this game WAY TOO EMOTIONALLY. It just hurts town due to throwing logic out the window and pushing things because "your mad" or "I'm so good It's justifiable". So if every townie would just you know, not do stupid shit. We'd probably win this game.

OK rant over.

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I really hope you guys don’t get intimidated by Kookoobird with his bad talking the player base and site. It’s a coward way to play and not fun.


I am an aesthetic. Deal with it. Lynching a claimed PR is ridiculous.

Will get back to you on your claim.

I'm not necessarily intimidated. You can just tell. Players that actually know a thing or two have a different vibe. Idk I've met a handful of people that gave me the same vibe kookoos giving me, I was never wring about them, so I feel pretty good about at least giving her some time to back track. Smart people do stupid things sometimes.

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Him .

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Well... I hate to see screen go. I was gonna lean towards not lynching either more than lkely . It'll just make the catch up more difficult.

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Wait it's a fake guilty. Jesus I'm a moron.

UNVOTE:

I'll catch up later.

this is disgusting.

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A hammer at page five benefits town in the long run.

Sources: dude trust me

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Also why is lovebird your strongest tr

I feel like he's playing rationally here. He also seems to be the only one here who actually cares about, you know, a player quickhammering someone for no reason on the fifth page of the game. Tone sounds townie to me aswell.

Scum can play rationally and make an easy "oh that's not townie" statement about a quick hammer.

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Who me?

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No mohab lol.

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I think NK15 is the bad town and Mohab is the scum. NK15 has a better thought process and I think he really believes his inane conclusions. Screenplay is the first lynch though considering he's scum claimed.

IF screen scum claimed (i still haven't caught up) then there's still 2 more scum.

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Lol. See ya kookoo.

I like his list.

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eth0s, rb, pisskop, Tchill, Mort are town never lynch them. creen, mohab, nk15, lovebird contains 2 or 3 scum. you get your wish, I'm out.

I'm awful yet I'm locktown based on my play? huh

I've had more TR's on site due to to terrible play. Things scum never would do opposed to things a God townie does. That's where most if my TR's come from.

Scum don't fake a guilty day 2 for a lynch. No longer term motivation there.

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I don't think either should be lynched tbh. I think it's TvT due to kookoos personality and I don't think screen scum claimed.I think someone that hopped on screen early could be scum.

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No I'm not saying that's his personality. I'm saying because of his personality he's probably town. I highly, highly doubt a decent player fakes a guilty as scum there.

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VOTE: kookoo

OK. This slot will be scum read for the entirety of the game by about half the player list. If we're determined to lynch here I won't fight it.

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You never get to dictate how someone plays an alignment. People are capable of things you'd never do as town or scum.

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Like I said I think you're both town.

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If screen and kookoo is TvT then scum is probably on kookoo early due to mislynching kookoo then inevitably mislynching screenplay.

Twoinamillion and mohab probably have 1 scum in it.

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Like I said I think you're both town.

Because?

Because kookoo seems to be a "shut up I can do what I want and win" type player. I've failed to see where you scum claimed.

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How stupid do yall think scum are exactly? Stupid enough to fake a guilty day 2? Or stupid enough to hard defend an easy day 2 lynch? Geez.

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If screen and kookoo is TvT then scum is probably on kookoo early due to mislynching kookoo then inevitably mislynching screenplay.

Twoinamillion and mohab probably have 1 scum in it.

There is not much of a pro town Kookoo argument it is just confirmation bias.

It's not even bias. I've seen this play come from egotistical town too much on this site.

I guess call it a gut read. If yall have to flip him we need to get this out of the way early for townies that won't change their mind.

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I guess if we don't lynch Srceen someone can try to target him. But I'd rather just lynch him, especially since he could be scum ascetic.

Then vote him.

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VOTE: Twoinamillion

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Lol

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Like I'd much rather get one of those lynches out if the way if we can't get passed them but I'd love to be able to get passed them.

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Probably you or Twoinamillion due to where yall jumped on kookoo.

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Vote Count 2.03

Kookoobird [5]:

Not Know 15, Srceenplay, twoinamillion, Mohab500, Tchill13

Srceenplay [3]:

rb, kookoobird, lovebird,

Lovebird [1]:

pisskop

pisskop [1]:

eth0s

Not Voting [3]:

, Tchill13, Not Known 15, Mortfeld

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

Deadline ends in

(expired on 2018-04-08 12:00:00)

on

April 8th.

Mod Notes:

Not you sorry.

Mohab or Twoinamillion

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You don't have any defence of Kookoo so that's a baseless accusation.

Well don't worry about it it's only one vote atm.

I'm just saying if scum know it's TvT they know they can line up 2 mislynches. Kookoo then screen is a better mislynch line up than screen then kookoo.

I believe it's TvT due to what I think is kookoos play style and the fact I do think see screen being scum atm.

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Wait, tchill. Why do you want to get past them?

BecAuse I bet they're town. We need to move on from that.

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I can't prove it's TvT.

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Doesn't it make sense to lynch the ones that are actually acting scummy instead of saying it is TvT just because?

It's not just because. There's real reasoning to why I believe kookoo is scum. It doesn't matter though as its mostly gut and I doubt gut reads go a long way.

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Why I believe Kookoo is town.

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You're not at L-1

My vote is onTwoinamillion .

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Yeah. I'd still like Twoinamillion to be lynched.

And a Twoinamillion read explanation from Eddie lol.

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Not for you maybe. For more you're a great lynch. Can't go somewhere I've parked at for several days now. Are you still pushing screen Twoinamillion?

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Because that's lazy and it shows you're not really trying to sort you're just settling for that being enough for your day 2 play to focus on.

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Well if we're not lynching Twoinamillion I could lynch screen.

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No, please vote Twoinamillion.

Twoinamillion is my first lynch and screen is my second.

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My problem is I create bull shit. Wait for scum to try to lynch me. The problem is town doesn’t want to look past the bull shit I create. I mean come on. What’s the motivation for scum to be scumy? Get your heads out your asses.
Town gets apathetic and waits for someone else to step up and do something for them. That’s where the decent scum player comes in. Leads the lemmings over the ledge.

GJ Eddie and Kookoobird

To be clear screen I only want to lynch you because people will always want to lynch you and we need to get your mislynch out of the way as early as possible.

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Maybe tchill? I argued why you were town screen.

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That is stupid Tchill13. You don’t lynch a claimed PR day 2 without trying to let it resolve itself.

I was even dropping hints there was more to my role.
Piss even picked up on it. Yet he votes me anyway. Even more damaging that he is scum.

Plus you post right now Tchill13 basically reading as admitting you know I m town but giving excuses for me being lynched.

So what do you do about a player you know won't make it to lylo due to other players that will constantly push him? Other townies that'll be constantly hung up on one slot?

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Twoinamillion should have been lynched.

Screen I think you can understand where I'm coming from wirh my "persistent town" idea.

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It's not tunneling. There's valid reason to it and I've yet to see you make any real contributions.

You didn't even respond to my statement saying you were playing lazily and weren't doing much sorting.

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Let's lynch Twoinamillion tomorrow please

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Still haven't seen an answer to lazy play and no sorting

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Yeah. Screen is just undrstandably mad at this point and I think he's playing with a bit of emotion. Didn't give an answer to scum if your town just talked about you digging your own grave.

I do believe Twoinamillion continues to not answer my lazy, and lack of sorting accusations.

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Seriously what's up? Mods been on

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You're not at L-1

My vote is on Twoinamillion.

ok tchill is scum

also eddie clutch replacement

why tf am i scum?

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people are saying im scum just to say it. sheesh

VOTE: twoinamillion

it didn't take a genius to see that kookoo v screen as tvt because guess what... im not a genius.

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I'm wagoning you for a great reason. Position on the the wagon you hopped on after a TvT argument.

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Why is my lynch good? You don't have to be scum to know that was TvT.

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two isn't scum here 90% sure

i haven't seen him as scum but this fits his town meta

ur scum with him arent you dunker

and you're kidding yourself if you think I wouldn't.

im pisskop. ive voted dead players in lylo. and still won

VOTE: pisskop

ye

Okay i have a serious problem with dunker here because i think 2iam is NOT his town meta, and his reason for townreading him is the exact opposite to me

thats not cool m8

then why the vote?

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Why am i scum? please one of the 4ish people lay out a case.

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if today is the day before lylo we need to mass claim.

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we are not mass claiming today

why the hell not? you do what you have to to avoid lylo.

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town. if it helped scum more undoubtedly, which if it did this wouldn't even be a discussion... ever, then i would be against it.

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also list night actions if you claim.

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i've yet to see scum play be the reason scum win on this site. Townies are terrible, including me sometimes. I'm fine with giving scum more info IF it greatly increases the chance of lynching scum, which it does. Thats a post game discussion though.

Eddie you claiming?

I believe Eddie and I had a pretty strong scum win a while back that town didn’t necessarily play poorly.

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i've yet to see scum play be the reason scum win on this site. Townies are terrible, including me sometimes. I'm fine with giving scum more info IF it greatly increases the chance of lynching scum, which it does. Thats a post game discussion though.

Eddie you claiming?

I believe Eddie and I had a pretty strong scum win a while back that town didn’t necessarily play poorly.

was i town in this game? i feel like i played in it for some odd reason lol.

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dunk claim.

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im most familiar with boon on site and i would not be surprised if he was aggravating me lol. You seem to be one of the better plays i've run into.

Eddie do you think my reasoning for pushing 2inamillion as scum makes sense?

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alright 2inamillion is next.

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right after you claim sure.

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well you can either claim or vote 2inamillion. If you do neither you're hurting town.

You can't state your against after we outed a main PR. It's a team game. Play as a team. Claim.

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I'd like to know why I'm scum? The fact I've asked this multiple times and it's not been answered yet should mean something.

We already had the PROTECTIVE CLAIM. If you don't claim after that you're hurting town.

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Nobody has told me why I'm scum over Twoinamillion. Nobody has told anyone why anybody else is scum over Twoinamillion.

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I'll have to go back and read. So you're saying the Un cc'd protective is scum?

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I think one of pisskop and Eddie is scum. Makes sense for scum to do a big SvT so town has a reason not to lynch Twoinamillion .

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VOTE: pisskop

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im not scum but i hope pisskop is. your bold statement kinda sold me on it.

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Please do not throw out any votes atm. I need to reread. I actually haven't reread the game at all and have played most of it in real time. This shouldn't be too hard to figure out on reread after mass claim.

I want mohab to claim next.

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TAKE YOU'RE VOTES OFF. ONE MISS VOTE WINS SCUM THE GAME.

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OK cool still need to finish it

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Unvote or your scum claiming

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In already leaning tiam scum just unvote so we can be safe and make sure.

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RB can claim next. I'll claim last.

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Lmao

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No he's scum but I want to be 100 percent on that

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Well his position on the wagon after the TvT argument. Then his fake claim was outed so he claimed Miller because the investigative hasn't claimed or outed what he's done so Twoinamillions Miller claim makes sense if that was to come out which is exactly why he claimed Miller.

Twoinamillion is scum. We need to finish mass claim and find the other scum members today. We should be able to game solve today hopefully.

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I'm a town 2 shot weak friendly neighbor.

I shot screen night one, which is why I was against his stupid lynch.

And I shot mohab last night.

Mohab please confirm.

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OK. You're reaching.

Wait for Eddie to post please.

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Eh. Sorry. Let's see who thinks I'm scum though. That should be pretty telling.

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I understand the hesitation. I'll be honest as I can be.

I straight up forgot about the weak modifier. Tried to save screen because it was an obvious TvT discussion. Then I honestly didn't know who was town but mohab just gave off a very towny vibe and I just picked him for the sake of more information for somebody on town. I didn't realize it would actually clear him for me personally until that was brought up.

So if you're looking at this from my perspective ik of 2 townies and mohab knows of 2 townies. Could it be a scum gambit? Sure but why would I even mention the screen ordeal if so? That just looks worse on me as either alignment.

Anyways. From my view there's 5 players and 3 of them could be scum. Which means I personally have over a 50 percent chance of voting scum, mohab does also, and I like those odds especially after a catch up.

I understand why and how I look scummy because obviously I could me and a partner could be "protecting" ourselves but I don't believe me or mohab were ever in REAL danger of being pushed. If I was scum and Twoinamillion was town there's no need to claim. There's no need to do anything because he's literally the scummiest player here. The fact I claimed what I did AFTER his redaction and Miller claim should let you know this is something I wouldn't have to do as scum to win.

If you iso me you'll notice I've only pushed Twoinamillion, the whole game, so the fact someone put me in a team with him is odd.

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I reread the role pm before the claim so I could be sure of what I was claiming. I haven't been very active especially compared to other games of mine. I haven't even reread. Hopefully town will be able to trust me.

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I'm not gonna complain because I respect work ethic. Gives me time to catch up anyway

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i just isoed myself.

current ghuess at scum team BEFORE i reread is..

twoinamilion/RB/Mort

Mohab is conf town. NK is town due to kookoo's play. I just really hope Eddie is town.

these could change.

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RB and NK could flip flop with a sprinkle of eddie in there... ok to the reread.

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yeah reasons would be helpful instead of just finger pointing. Either actually dispute it or it's OMGUS.

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if you call me scum you call mohab scum.

I'd like valid cases on both of us because you'll need that to convince somebody.

Why would mohab agree to this if we were both scum?

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two isn't scum here 90% sure

i haven't seen him as scum but this fits his town meta

ur scum with him arent you dunker

and you're kidding yourself if you think I wouldn't.

im pisskop. ive voted dead players in lylo. and still won

VOTE: pisskop

ye

Okay i have a serious problem with dunker here because i think 2iam is NOT his town meta, and his reason for townreading him is the exact opposite to me

thats not cool m8

then why the vote?

if it helps this is why you made the scum team.

Before reread of course.

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ok so i called screen vs kookoo tvt. I still believe it was tvt so nk is town by default.

Why is mort town and you're conftown?

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Not lying. But I really don't have any defense so do what you must, it will lose you the game.

2inamillion literally said he's ok with town losing based on his fake clai so we do have 1 scum for sure. Regardless of if he retracted his statement because its lylo and scum can quick lynch off 1 vote alone.

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normally someone scumreading me isnt much of a red flag, but you coming into lylo with a claim like that, youve basically just pigeonholed the game, like your reads are literally just 'these are what my reads need to be in order to win the game'

im actually scummy rn my problem is discerning the town that think im scummy form the scum thats actually pushing it.

What happens if i claim VT? am i still Scum?

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oh and fucking lol, you quickhammered the day before lylo, then come into lylo with an apparent inno claim on someone as a weak neighbourizer and we're meant to trust that

well Eddie's bolded statement made sense and yeah sorry about it

had i known about the weak modifier i probably do the same thing honestly. Im technically an investigative so why whould i out myself after 1 clear? To save a townie that shouldnt be lynched anyway then im lynched that night? Then why not risk coming into lylo with a clear?

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im just saying as scum theres nothing that advantageous from my claim. It's more likely to be questioned than believed.

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no. thats not the point of my quote. You voted someone else while questioning a completely different person. Sorry for miscommunication.

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i really cant get over the fact dunker was the NK and you just fucking zero in on the post where i say i think dunker is very likely scum with 2iam, coupled with mystery FWN claim at lylo, AFTER quickhammering the day before, NOT claiming a night target in case you die and then your scumteam is me and my top townread

not real life

yeah thats a FUCKING JOKE if im scum and i think thats gonna lock up the perfect scum victory lol.

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theres also more than 1 scum?

how is finding more than one player's actions questionable a problem again? Also im pretty sure i asked dunker other questions

like i said ive only isoed myself so far. Youre the least likely of the scum team tbh.

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if youre scum you arent gonna go for perfect victory if its less likely than overall victory

maybe im wrong but youre not that arrogamt

no you always go for perfect scum victory because anything can happen on 1 day phase that turns the game over on its head. Easiest way to win as scum is to play the least amount og days possible. Nothing to do with arrogance.

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the interaction with you is more so to explain im town not convince you that you're scum lol.

I am 80 percent sure kookoo/nk is town due to that tvt interaction.

I plan on isoing, VCA, and one or two more things. We have 2 weeks to deadline and i can't tell you last time i played in lylo. Im excited to try and gamesolve tbh but i need ppl to belive im town wheni attempt to do so.

My effort level has been zero this game.

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ugh jts pointless reading into what you say bc if youre scum its just gonna be whatever is most sensible to say at this point of the game

and if im town? You're looking at my play through a bias.

if im scum the team is me/mohab/2inamillion.

2 is a scum fuck on his own and me and mohab are connected.

so please tell me how it makes sense for me or mohab to be on a team with 2?

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Tomorrow i'll start the reread of the game itself.

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BECAUSE YOU CLAIM TO HAVE NEIGHBOURIZED HIM IN FUCKING LYLO WHERE NO ONE CAN VERIFY AND IF HES SCUM WITH YOU OFC HES GONNA SAY HES YOUR NEIGHBOUR

OUFT

ok... do you think 2 is town or scum? if hes scum... why are we scum with him...

im not arguing that me and mohab could be scum together from your pov.

im arguing that we couldn't be scum with 2 due to our play and his this game.

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fuck... eddie replaced into kookoos slot.

why didnt you tell me that?

2/nk/mort scum team. easy breezy.

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wut

bussing is a thing

yeah this site is obsessed with it.

So iv'e only tried to bus my partner this game?

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im so excited eddie is town lmao.

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so im scum with him because of his actions not mine? wtf?

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hi
VOTE: nk15

will catchup now

mort and mohab town

nk15 lockscum

town:
Twoinamillion
Eddie Cane
Dunkerdoodles
rb
Mohab500
Mortfeld

not town:
pisskop
Not Known 15
Tchill13

gg

two is probably my least towny townread tho so

Can people give me their opinions of NK15

Cant read them

Townie tone.. just kinda sounds like he's not putting effort tbh. He's consistent with what he;'s saying so I don't think he's faking..

Not putting effort? Well, you could call it that.
I just want to avoid what happened in my earlier games. Every time I put lots of effort into lynching scum/preventing a bad lynch at least one of the following happened:
1.I was ignored and my reads called bad.
2.I was voted up at L-1(and sometimes lynched)
3.Town/game-ending Jester got lynched.
And most of these games got either lost, or were won not due to my effort.
The games I won were mostly games where my scumreads were not that good(and that aren't many).

nk15 is scum

reasoning: lurks until he is mentioned and then just happens to post

umm i think its obvius why dunk died

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I'm a town 2 shot weak friendly neighbor.

I shot screen night one, which is why I was against his stupid lynch.

And I shot mohab last night.

Mohab please confirm.

Look at this claim.
Look at it.
We have LYLO today.
Tchill claims to be a WEAK role.
That acted LAST NIGHT.
That is not a town claim.
This is mafia trying to cross

confirm

themselves.
Their other supposed target was LYNCHED without them ever claiming an innocent.
Bullshit.

also he jumped on this immediately lol. The most telling part is

"this is not a town claim"

while its not the prettiest claim its town aligned. Of course the scum motivation bleeds through that statement.

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I think one of pisskop and Eddie is scum. Makes sense for scum to do a big SvT so town has a reason not to lynch Twoinamillion .

So how do you feel about this?

You can also be a scum neighbourizer, and mohab actually be town

i think im not perfect and im allowed to get things wrong. I was pretty pissed we werent lynching 2 at that point.

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yeah i agree my claim is terrible from your perspective.

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thx mort i was getting there.

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well. All i can say is that i was in no real danger of being pushed today, neither was mohab.

I lead with a claim right after 2 did something incredibly scummy

a claim more like to be fought than accepted.

a claim that brings more attention on me if im vt and if im scum all it does is bring attentio to me and mohab, who were never really in the spotlight.

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just trying... sorry.

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It makes you a 'conftown' as insurance after 2iam is lynched as well

well if me or mohab flip town it'll confrim the other so scum won't kill us this night phase.

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wheres the CASE? not "im scum for one play or mohab is scum for one play" wheres the scum case on our collective play?

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if i flip what i claimed and he said he confirms it should?

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if you cant make a scum case on my play theres no reason for me to claim what i did.

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but i would have died if i actually shot him and he flipped scum and my role pm would confirm that. I would have to be lying also and theres no reason for me to lie as town.

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Mohab and eddie are locktown for me.

2/nk/mort/rb is scum from scummiest to towniest.

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but i would have died if i actually shot him and he flipped scum and my role pm would confirm that. I would have to be lying also and theres no reason for me to lie as town.

Because you're a weak friendly neighbor. I see.

HAHAHAHA

nice fakeclaim

whatever. Scum know if town gets past this day phase they'll lose due to my confirmation of mohab and the fact that if one of us are nk'd it'll confirm the other. We just have to get past today, which we will with 2. im not worried.

I urge town not to vote no matter how sure they are im scum. please let everyone come to agreement.

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im glad you also see the HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM with the claim

you arguing the claim is actually why i wouldnt claim it as scum here. its too suspicious.

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Tchill, you need to say who you're sending your message to today.

im 2 shot i already used it on screen and mohab.

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i mean damn 2 and nk are scum lol.

this isn't hard.

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ik. Worst FAKECLAIM ever. its a real claim.

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if im scum mohab is scum...

so it cant be nk/2 if me or mohab is considered to be scum.

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good job Killimg the doc asshats

morts a neighborizor
he neighborer lovie n1
grilled the shit out of him
was a flacid potato to.me
Eddie didnt want him to claim
a notty/eddy/mort team is viable

and look at this shit. Town has a neghbor and a neighborizer?!?!?!

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well thats understandable.

do you understand how terrible i am if im scum and i claim this instead of just claiming vt?

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Boon is insane and might have actually put a neighborizer with a neghbior tbh. Definately not pushing mort just because of that.

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There are lots of good reasons not to lynch me. I could claim but I don't really want to.

I don't think I should. At least not if I want to be alive tomorrow.

2 was setting up the miller claim before the others claimed. I think he's scum for sure.

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mohab where is your head at?

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i dont want to be biased in my eddie TR so i'll need help with that one tbh.

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FROM MY PERSPECTIVE HE KNEW I WAS TOWN WHY WOULD I WANT HIM TO DIE IF I THINK HE'S TOWN?

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i have a guilty on screenplay. lynch screenplay or lynch me and then lynch screenplay, idc.

Woo! Game just got easier.
VOTE: Srceenplay

Kookoo is very focused on optimal play, thus would never fake a guilty as town. Either he's scum or Srceenplay is. Gamesolved!

Wait it's a fake guilty. Jesus I'm a moron.

UNVOTE:

I'll catch up later.

VOTE: Srceenplay

VOTE: tiam

VOTE: srceen

(Rb/tiam)/Eddie/tchill

Mohab could be scum too

2 already hung himself.

This is giving me scum tingles big time.

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Once again like reasons are so much better than finger pointing.

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i have a guilty on screenplay. lynch screenplay or lynch me and then lynch screenplay, idc.

Woo! Game just got easier.
VOTE: Srceenplay

Kookoo is very focused on optimal play, thus would never fake a guilty as town. Either he's scum or Srceenplay is. Gamesolved!

Wait it's a fake guilty. Jesus I'm a moron.

UNVOTE:

I'll catch up later.

VOTE: Srceenplay

VOTE: tiam

VOTE: srceen

(Rb/tiam)/Eddie/tchill

Mohab could be scum too

2 already hung himself.

This is giving me scum tingles big time.

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You hopped on the result of a TvT argument early. You distanced from tiam. You hopped back on screen for the lynch. You pushed a possible team that excluded NK or tiam. (Rb/eddie/tchill) you fos'd mohab who in my eyes is conftown but ik that's not the case for yall. Then you've thrown tiam to the wolves after his play that will lead to his death.

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(Rb/tiam)/Eddie/tchill

This alone shows your willingness to bus tiam but not NK if your scum with them.

Then I don't think you ever mentioned NK as a possible scum player until we decided dunker got killed because of NK's push.d

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I'm a town 2 shot weak friendly neighbor.

I shot screen night one, which is why I was against his stupid lynch.

And I shot mohab last night.

Mohab please confirm.

Look at this claim.
Look at it.
We have LYLO today.
Tchill claims to be a WEAK role.
That acted LAST NIGHT.
That is not a town claim.
This is mafia trying to cross

confirm

themselves.
Their other supposed target was LYNCHED without them ever claiming an innocent.
Bullshit.

From my perspective this statement and dunkers iso makes NK scum.

Scum is gonna push my lynch hard because my claim is very suspicious. Which is why IF I was scum it would have been better off for me to claim VT.

"It's not a TOWN claim"

That sticks out like a sore thumb. Sure its not the towniest way to go about it the way I did but I'm town. That's my role. He's pushing a case of tchills claim isn't towny. Which is exactly what Scums gonna push.

Had he been really suspicious of my role why not bring up the fact a neighbor and a neighborizer don't make any sense? That's a mechanical argument.

NK chose to argue towniness above everything else.

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So it's very possible

Mort/nk/tiam is the scum team.

I've individually laid out a case for NK and tiam. Morts is a matter of PoE and associations.

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How. How am I scum with tiam MY ONLY PUSH THIS GAME HAS BEEN HIM.

How is mohab scum with tiam.

Reasons people. Use reasons.

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Like if you push that so much it makes me think you could be scum with tiam preparing for a tiam scum flip.

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If I'm scum with tiam so is mohab.

So I just want to see a case on why tiam is scum with me.

Then I want to see a case on why tiam is scum with mohab.

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Heyoka is hard null, but if they're town RB, Pisskop, Screenplay, Tchill contains 2 scum.

Pisskop, eth0s, Not Known 15, and Mohab have no tangible content.

I just noticed that they put Pisskop in both the no tangible content and the contains scum categories, for no apparent reason.
VOTE: Kookoobird

Heyoka is hard null, but if they're town RB, Pisskop, Screenplay, Tchill contains 2 scum.

Pisskop, eth0s, Not Known 15, and Mohab have no tangible content.

I just noticed that they put Pisskop in both the no tangible content and the contains scum categories, for no apparent reason.
VOTE: Kookoobird

I don't see that this has been answered or responded to. I guess it is because Kookoo is scum wanting to hide this scumslip.
After we lynch Kookoo and they flip scum we need to take a look at Pisskop because they were probably misplaced as scum partner of Kookoo.

Lynch Kookoo

If Kookoo is some strong mafia power role I'd say the Screen accusations could be a bus; more so because they didn't claim ascetic Day 1; you just need to look which role died last night to know why this would be a terrible idea as Town; it is more likely to come from scum.

No I'm not saying that's his personality. I'm saying because of his personality he's probably town. I highly, highly doubt a decent player fakes a guilty as scum there.

Oh really.
Decent players would do that there. Provided they think that they can get away with it. And it looks like there are too many town that think that way, so it is not entirely unreasonable. I am pretty sure that if Kookoo is a decent player they thought they can get away with it. Don't fall into that trap.

No I'm not saying that's his personality. I'm saying because of his personality he's probably town. I highly, highly doubt a decent player fakes a guilty as scum there.

Oh really.
Decent players would do that there. Provided they think that they can get away with it. And it looks like there are too many town that think that way, so it is not entirely unreasonable. I am pretty sure that if Kookoo is a decent player they thought they can get away with it. Don't fall into that trap.

I'm not understanding the assumption that he's a decent player.

I am not really convinced that Kookoo is a decent player, hence the "if"
I am convinced that Kookoo is scum.

VOTE: Pisskop
We have scummy behaviour here:
Not voting before post 49, the 6th post of Pisskop.
It is usually scum who likes to avoid random votes early.
Post 6; completely by chance, yeah sure. Look at Pisskop, they are so town! Not buying that.
Fluff in their posts. Trying to look like they are doing more than they are.
Post 88: sheeping on Heyoka without any reasoning. After rb made a similar vote; even using this as cover up...
Post 621: LAMIST again.
Post 537: misrepresenting the argument of TIAM on Tchill, could be a honest mistake, so low confidence in this indicator.

Ok. Reads didn't change much.
VOTE: Pisskop

The scumteam is:
Mohab
Tchill
TIAM

What happened that cleared the kookoo/eddie slot for you NK?

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TAKE YOU'RE VOTES OFF. ONE MISS VOTE WINS SCUM THE GAME.

We have to finish the massclaim yes, but it's a lot more useless in lylo when anyone can fake claim yolo and if we mislynch its over.

TIAM saw no movement.
I am a Non-Consecutive Night Doctor.
No action Night 1.
I acted Night 2.<-and TIAM saw no movement
No action Night 3(obviously)

TIAM is lying.

Very coincidental that tiam was your only interaction which directly contradicted his claim.

So you push for a tiam lynch but you obviously believe my "claim" is more suspect than tiams play. Seems like a bus could have been planned here if a miller claim wasn't accepted.

Mort and Eddie both wanted to lynch tiam immediately after his claim... Ugh.

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Wtf.

No it doesn't matter. I'm leaning lynching nk15 /tiam/Mort in that order.

Eddie please stop being scummy.

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So you're a neighborizer Miller Mort?

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Your role contradicts two other roles and that's why they're scum? Lol.

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Yeah I'm leaning towards voting NK over tiam.

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Lol at tiam for only posting to vote someone else.

You just gonna give up completely or at least act like your town?

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Gah I feel like this is scum theater.

Mort made sure to point out they probably aren't scum together.

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oh my lord... im waiting on eddie

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If we lynch nk/tiam/Mort

We should win and any confusion should be cleared up.

If you believe my claim then the NK of me or mohab conf towns the other which means scum can't afford to do that

So scum would have to kill off a mislynch target in the night phases which would make the game easier for town.

I'd rather lynch NK over tiam because of evidence and the fact Mort only wants to lynch tiam.

Morts iso shows a willingness to vote tiam but never NK.

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@nk I need an answer on the kookoo/eddie read

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I'm ultra paranoid the scum team is NK/eddie/Mort

Which would mean tiam is the worst townie ever.

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Man... Mohab I'd appreciate it if you got in here and tried to break it down.

I have to pick between making RB or Eddie a hard TR. I can't TR Mort at this point.

Then after that we just have 1 mislynchable player between tiam or eddie. I don't think they're scum together.

It's either nk/Mort/eddie or nk/mort/tiam

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If NK is scum then eddie has to be scum right?

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Lmao. I just know NK is scum. Which points to Mort scum.

Eddie possibly scum. Possibly town due to NK's iso.

Tiam made such a dumb play I don't know what to think of it.

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Nobody is even trying to figure the game out.

Make your case for why you're town.

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Like seriously you can't be town lmao.

You're night action and NK'S night action directly and ONLY involves each other

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Scum is just sitting around waiting for town to lay a vote down.

Towns so confused they don't know what to push. Come on guys.

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The only case against me is that I messed up my claim. Which I readily admit.

You never scum hunted and all I remember is you hoping on an easy wagon after a TvT argument.

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Like seriously you can't be town lmao.

You're night action and NK'S night action directly and ONLY involves each other

The fact that this was your fake claim makes this worse.

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NK for sure.

Tiam/Mort/eddie are the possibilities.

RB and mohab are town. As of rn.

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I'll do some more research tonight but unless someone changes my mind I'm laying down a vote on NK by the end of the irl day.

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It's still a toss up between eddie or RB honestly.

My gut says eddie is town.

I don't think we'll have to have your vote to lynch nk so I'm not worried.

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Where's your wall post? Lol

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I should probably lunch Tchill actually. He's ignored two questions of mine so far

This is laughable. Your gonna lynch someone not answering questions over someone cc'ing you? In lylo? Good joke.

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Nope not lying.

Genuinely confused between RB/eddie and I'd like to have a strong read on them before I lynch someone

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Eddie you're a pain in my ass atm.

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Mort you said you'd vote me for not answering you.

You also said neighbor and nighborsizer isn't exactly a cc.

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I'll be expecting it lol.

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Yeah the CC is not why I'd vote for you.

Not why you'd vote tiam either apparently.

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If someone doesn't answer you it's an automatic excuse to threaten a vote right?

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My gut is screaming

NK/tiam/Mort

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Idiot

So tiams first claim had a direct contradiction with NK.

His second had a direct contradiction with Mort.

That's just a coincidence?

Meanwhile NK and Mort refuse to mention voting each other?

This is distancing.