Open 55 - Vanilla 2:10 (Abandoned) before 542

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Initial thoughts:

I read through day 1 and started thinking "deathsauce is scummy." Then I saw he was lynched. Then I thought, well, tobiassen was scummy, who replaced him? Oh, it was skruffs. He got nightkilled. Finally, I thought, tyler was pretty scummy. And then I replaced him (he's town). So my reads have been pretty bad.

I feel pretty good about avinash and lowell. Or, at least, I prefer this version of lowell to the one I've played with previous.

Flameaxe and jdodge and elmo are intentionally impossible to read, which is annoying, but I don't have any particular reason to vote for them.

I didn't like ryan's play (or ryan, aw snap), and I don't like skruff's play since replacing in Day 2, particularly the reason for voting. Seems like an intentionally distracting reason to give, one that could easily be backed off of if the destructor wagon loses steam.

Unvote if necessary, vote skruffs.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Vote Destructor
Now how do you feel FLameaxe?

Specifically, this post here. Its not that bad, but I think it leaves him with the option of backing off it by just saying he wasn't serious about the vote in the first place, but he's also pushing the leading bandwagon that much further.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Um, hi. I replaced tylerj. I think we could do worse than a lynch-lowell meta, but since I think skruffs is scum, I don't think I'll vote for lowell right now.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Reading is tech.

Unvote, vote avinashv.

@Skruffs: Yeah, sometimes.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Cool, I'm done with this game. Let's get it over with.

Ah, the classy move.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'm an unreformable cop-follower, I think destructor is scum.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

For elmo, regarding destructor:

Weak talk and no good play means scum.

Vote: destructor.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

You might not be the only player not posting that much, but it seems like you're talking the most while saying the least.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Scrutinize away.

I'm not sure why the wagon on destructor suddenly disappeared. He still seems like the best play to me, to be honest.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'm still not clear on why destructor is being given such a pass.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Because you've been consistently anti-town. You're arguments have been weak, and essentially you're being given a pass because "he's inexperienced to the point that he thinks there's still such a thing as a universal scumtell." Your join date says otherwise, so I'm not buying it.

But actually, no-lynching makes sense. We have a better chance of lynching scum with seven alive, then five, then three, than with eight, then six, then (no-lynch) three.

Unvote, vote no-lynch.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

How do you plead?

I plead 'skruffs should read the part of the thread where we lynched avinashv yesterday.' I was voting for him, even.

Show us how me being "inexperienced to the point of thinking a universal scumtell exists" could somehow negate the criticism you posted above, even if you don't believe it's the case.

Well, I don't know, you'd have to ask jdodge why that means you're town. As for:

Show us where my arguments have been weak, and then explain how making these weak arguments makes me scum.

To start off, you're arguing that we should lynch flameaxe because. . . he's lurking? That's not exactly the strongest case, and that's all you've presented. And how are you so confident he won't be the nightkill again?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Its not a stupid idea, but the benefits are fairly marginal, so if we can come to a consensus on a lynch, I wouldn't be terribly hurt.

Anyway, destructor, so you think we should lynch an absent player? In other words, we should lynch at random?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

The one time he seemed to get into the game was when he was under some pressure, and what he did then was ask to be replaced and self-vote.

Is that a scumtell? I tend to be fairly comfortable lynching players who are useless day 1, but day 3 I'm going to be pretty adamantly opposed to it.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Well, if he keeps on not playing, by replacement.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

If we're making choices on lurking, peg seems like a better one. He's at least playing without being very helpful. But we should still no lynch.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Second the replacement request.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

So, cases are great.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

So I. . . put the third vote on him? Jumped on a bandwagon? You'll have to be more specific.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I am indifferent toward this game continuing. If people want to keep it going, I'll keep playing, but I'm not absolutely set on it.