mini 2013: the chorus of i'll call b4 i cum mafia (all done)

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Long time no see profii. Hope you've been well.

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VOTE: theworst

I'll give a warm welcome to my new friend lol.

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VOTE: Tchill13 Let's see just how tchill you are.

I don't make anything out of the unabombah vote from ruby. They made a regular vote first and the number vote (clearly a joke) second, so I wouldn't take it as hiding a wagon vote.

Azurit, is your Dunnstral vote random?

humor check
logical check
questioning check

after a great deal of consideration i've decided that i'll be treating luckyotter as town until proven otherwise. congratulations.

doesn't seemm like a great dwal of consideration tbh.

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VOTE: profii

Interaction between profii and azurit seemed a little contrived to me, but I won't go too hard on that. Random voting for being bad dog.

this seems like the only interaction at this point. Why even point it out?

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VOTE: profii

L-2

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I only now realized that Maria and Kokichi are both in here too.
And Kokichi is never town until lynched, and when lynched, they have so far never been scum..

Yes I am town.

VOTE: profil

Goodnight

He was panicked and obvious scum. Doctor on me after scum flip

tbh i just enjoy this series of post so quickly lol.

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I think this is the worsts town game

And Kokis

So I am thinking Una or Siv will be the scum

Una made some weird posts for Una to be fair but I don’t like SIV either

how comfortable are you with the worst, koki, una or siv? not reads this game but in general.

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thats what i was looking for profii. thanks.

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VOTE: SV36
Good with this might join a Dunnstral wagon
Yea Lucky can be town

VOTE: Dunnstral
on 2nd thought looking at Sivs first few posts I'm eh on voting there. The thoughts are a bit messy but you can see a pattern

VOTE: dunnstral

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pretty interesting stuff with wagon comps going on. i dont have any reads in particular atm. pretty much just generally observing. Not the biggest fan of D1.

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you think so? why?

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whaqt do you think about dunn getting to 4 and it not getting past that?

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VOTE: performer

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or... hear me out... i play day 1 with the sole intent of getting to day 2. Sprinkling in some stuff that could leads to content i could review in later day phases.

i do think siv is doing decent work on day 1 though. i like what im seeing from him.

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I'm not happy about how long it took to get there, but SIV has given a decent response as far as I can tell.

Taking a step back... I could get on board with an Una or Dunn wagon. Una appears to be active lurking. Dunn needs to respond to some things.

Performer has been on my radar since post 92. Performer, you never answered my questions in post 170.

Also, your vote on SIV feels disingenuous. If you were following along, I made it pretty clear I was trying to get some particular responses from SIV, which were provided. Did you not like them? Why not?

Just because someone doesn't share your town reads doesn't merit a vote. If scum, what does SIV stand to benefit from giving a town read on MariaR?

The comment toward TW in 181 also feels very forced.

VOTE: performer

Weak clearance for SIV being town in the maria explanation. FOS's 2 others before voting performer (the vote is fine its the FOS'ing) if one of una/dunn flip scum i'll suspect this guy to be early distancing here. Especially if performer flips town.

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Page 2 deepwolf

don't question me. if he's wolf he will be deepwolf.

wolfy post btw.

i suppose deep wolf means...? i really should know this by now

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anti-prod

Ew.

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so... performer, dunn and profii are fine lynches. which way we going folks?

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and can we get your statements on what is supposed to be displayed from town tchill? for the court records of course.

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i am not a fine lynch

damn that cute dog.

UNVOTE:

we get to a few more pages and i'll actually attempt to put effort in i guess.

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and can we get your statements on what is supposed to be displayed from town tchill? for the court records of course.

Yeah, you're supposed to lurk and never push anything and then get wagoned for doing nothing and die without properly defending yourself

sounds like you played a game where i didnt give it enough attention. sorry.

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from the little ive played with dunn i believe he always keeps his posts short and sweet. thats definitely one of the more accurate reads of my meta day 1 though.

in a general since a lynch day 1 has the most likelihood of hitting town. I'd be willing to bet town usually talk themselves out of lynching scum more than they talk themselves into lynching scum day 1. I usually have no preference unless i feel comfortable with my ability to read certain players or unless somehow someone lands in my "will always be suspicious of" list day 1.

I didn't push my "play style" i asked dunn what towny tchill is. Quite laughable you gave a better answer than he did. Not surprising though. I dont really care to talk about my play style but I will if i have to.

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i would like to know where kokichi stands on the profii push now?

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Ik what I'm gonna get if I try to interact with him. A lot of short statements. I'm good lol.

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We're already talking about meta too much... Tbh I feel like scum is more than likely lurking. IF profii is town we're all just probably town talking to town. I don't think the worst is the best vote here. I feel like Siv and Worst are good TRs. I'm working from there.

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I said the worst is not the best vote I thought?

As in I think voting the worst at this moment is a bad idea and there are better options to vote.

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Profii do you have any town leans or scum leans?

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Kokichi do you have a read on anybody else?

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Yes I remember the event. Don't think I'll forget it any time soon. I do believe avoiding conflict is generally more dangerous than pursuing it. Scum have reasons for avoiding conflict. Town do not. It helps town solve the game. Scum don't get any help from conflict unless it's conflict that doesn't involve scum. Even then though smart townies can get correct reads off TvT conflicts. So if you're avoiding conflict altogether it's scummy imo.

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Kokichi fits into the "just push one read forever" scum category though...

Dunn trying to push me after there's other wagons that can be pushed almost gives me a towny vibe from him... Almost. Seeing how that's a path of more resistance and there's really no need for scum to do that atm.

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VOTE: kokichi

L-2

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VOTE: profii

that'd be too stupid for scum d1. waaaay too stupid. trading a townie for scum is fine especially day 1. So now either profii or kokichi is scum. I can't see kokichi being that stupid as scum.

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VOTE: kokichi

i was gonna counter claim cop but profii didn't let me have my fun

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this games a bit slower in terms of pace than im used to...

I'd rather you care either way. make the case. fight for town if you're town. don't just give up in frustration. makes it more difficult for town to win.

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Typical day 1. Nobody wants to lynch anybody lol.

If we wagon every single player then honestly there's no reason to wagon anyone at all. Feel free to do so though.

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Idk who's scum.

Worst and Siv are town.

That's about it.

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I'd have to say

Kokichi, ruby, profii, performer.

That'd be my lynch list from greatest to least.

Now why is kokichi town?

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Tbh I'm not too worried.

If the scum team isn't maria/worst/dunn I'm pretty sure towns gonna win.

I have a good bit of faith in half the player list which I can't say for most games.

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Una where's your head at? You got any decent reads yet?

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I'd have to say

Kokichi, ruby, profii, performer.

That'd be my lynch list from greatest to least.

Now why is kokichi town?

What. How could you want to lynch both me and prof

Because if I only wanted to lynch one of you that would mean I feel really good about one of your alignments. I don't feel like yall are the same alignment. I just don't know which is which.

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Obv town in 3 posts and I'm assuming he's the guy you wanted to play with?

Makes sense.

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Oh yes lol

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@Tchill

Why would you like to see profii and performer lynched?

idk which is scum but i doubt they are the same alignment.

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yes im adding fuel to any wagons you are correct.

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i would like to point out i will not participate in lynching players i can trust to play town in a way that helps town win based off experience with them.

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Will not lynch today: Maria, Morality, SIV, Worst, UNA

Will lynch today: literally anyone not in the above list.

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@Tchill

Why would you like to see profii and performer lynched?

idk which is scum but i doubt they are the same alignment.

So you think that one of them is mafia because you think that one of them is mafia?

yeah pretty much.

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as far as like actual reasoning... i think its fishy kokichi made a joke about an illegal role and then the wagon seemed to at least slow down in momentum. Could be NAI but i just got a "helpless and thrwoing crap at the wall to see if it sticks" vibe.

very concentrated vibe ik.

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I mean im willing to begin a town block of SIV, worst (myself not included) and look for the next town lock day 2.

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Role as in just play? I skimmed his iso and didn't see a claim. Did I miss that?

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I mean im willing to begin a town block of SIV, worst (myself not included) and look for the next town lock day 2.

This post screams fake.

How? Why?

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wolves are lurking this game like they do every fucking game on this site.

i'm not going to let it happen. vote dunn or vote una. either works for me.

ooh i like ruby.

VOTE: dunnstral

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You've gotten a correct read on me one time.

The other one you only got because of an illegal fake claim. Una can't read me lol.

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VOTE: SV

I CANT LET THESE BAD POSTS GO UNVOTED

What the hell. Sivs posts are great.

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The fake hammers are getting old. I bet there's more fake hammers than day 1 lynches combined here recently on site. It's ridiculous.

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And what the hell is that progression on me? I'm scum because I TR Siv or because I unvoted profii? Profii's case is better imo. Both are garbage though.

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VOTE: tchill

If you thought that was a claim town doesn’t announce it

What claim?

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You've gotten a correct read on me one time.

The other one you only got because of an illegal fake claim. Una can't read me lol.

The claim I'm referring to happened in a different game with me and UNA. Not the copy claim in the game that says NO COPS...

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No. Softs on day one aren't necessarily good to read into anyways. Scum can always soft early to avoid the NK of a vig or a night action then never bring it up again.

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"i can read such and such every time but they're really good at scum"

pat yourself on the back more lmao.

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i could lynch azurit.

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What's the actual case against profii just so we're clear on day 2 or 3 why people kept pushing him?

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I'm ready for a lynch. Obviously.

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VOTE: performer

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OK this is ridiculous.

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Tbh I'm OK with giving dunn a chance on day 2 more so than I am with giving performer a chance on day 2. Pretty just because I've seen dunn play before and honestly his endgame was good as town. Got better as he went.

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Please let us just lynch somebody.

Performer has definitely been scummy. Off of actions alone I'm pushing kokichi or performer and honestly performer would be my preference. His wording is very methodical imo. So that guy feeling plus other things that have already been mentioned makes me completely fine lynching performer. If not performer then anyone is fine. I think this is a fine lynch to actually push through though. If dunn is in fact scum we can figure that out later. I doubt profii of all people is gonna be the one to derail this performer wagon seeing how he's scummy enough as it is.

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Gut feeling

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Yeah this is great stuff. Multiple people on the fence but not wanting to commit to anything. It's been like that with every wagon.

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Even further - I think I'd be willing to lynch Performer over Dunn, but

simply because Chill chose that wagon over the other, makes me hesitate.

To clarify: I have no trouble seeing WHY people scumread Performer.
But if one of the two wagons is on scum - I'd bet my money on Dunn now. (on whom I have a null-read)
That is how strongly I feel on scum!Chill.

I'm just gonna take your obsession of me as a form of flattery. At what point have I been on a specific wagon for a specific reason? I haven't. Stop making shit up. Performers grew. I voted there. He simply happened to be one of the two people I said I'd vote since I didn't know them from past games AND performer was actually scummy also. Dunn hasn't been quite scummy. He's just lacked a lot of content. The content he has provided isn't as scummy as kokichi or performer though. THAT BEING SAID I simply voted performer because it was a new wagon. Just like all my other votes.

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He’s back from the past

VOTE: Dunn

If Tchill magically gets momentum, I’d go there but a lynch Tchill ran away from also makes sense

I ran from a few others under those guidelines. Too bad you can't vote 3 ppl at once... And people wonder why I play the way I do day 1. Smh.

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Even further - I think I'd be willing to lynch Performer over Dunn, but

simply because Chill chose that wagon over the other, makes me hesitate.

To clarify: I have no trouble seeing WHY people scumread Performer.
But if one of the two wagons is on scum - I'd bet my money on Dunn now. (on whom I have a null-read)
That is how strongly I feel on scum!Chill.

Why?

Una. Tchill was on the Dunn wagon, too.

Una and profii. Both of you seem to be voting tchill mostly based on gut reads and his wagon hopping. With less than a day left, this looks more like trying to avoid being on the lynch than trying to rally the troops for a better lynch.

UNAs post is just dumb as hell.

Otter, Siv, worst strong TR's. I'm done with this day phase unless I'm asked a question.

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VOTE: dunn

Shoouuld be L-1

Somebody hammer.

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VOTE: performer

Screw this. Dunn is probably town.

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You don't have a bit left. You got about 24 hours.

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There's a lot of resistance to Performer being lynched here, tons of people saying they'll hammer but nobody voting

Dunn gives me hope. Of course this won't look too great if performer flips town but I do like the point. Lot of talking no action. Makes me think somebody thinks they'll benefit from saying they'll lynch performer.

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Imma cop Tchill >:[

you think he was vig shot? thats interesting lol. I didn't get any fruit btw. I fully expect to be pushed though.

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I understand. I think we should chainsaw the d1 wagon. Seeing how scum rarely get lynched without being bussed d1.

at least we got scum d1 so im fine with my mislynch being 1st (I can't be in lylo) then we still have a decent amount of wiggle room. We need to commit to the chainsaw though.

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why the hell wouldn't scum kill profii after "imma cop tchill"?

if there is a vig and they shot maria it's only worth outing if they're 1 shot. if it's multiple shot i wouldn't mention it.

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I'm just gonna go ahead and claim.

2-shot gunsmith. Morality doesn't have a gun.

Do as you wish. I completely understand. Please chainsaw the rest of the wagon until we hit scum though.

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I'm not gonna discuss potential scenarios because of PR discussion.

I think the scum that's bussing is otter if I had a gun to my head. I doubt both scum bussed so I'd say one scum is off the performer wagon.

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yeah and im not sure why you believe if iwas scum why I would let profii go through with that if at all possible for me to do something about it.

If I was scum I would have no reason to believe he was a "weak" role which means I would have killed him and I'd be in this same predicament EXCEPT Maria would still be alive.

So imo Maria's death should cause a bit of hesitation for you of all people boon considering our history.

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Imma cop Tchill >:[

Vote count 1.final

Performer (7):

Dunnstral, the worst, LuckyOtter, Tchill13, Kokichi Oma, Morality, profii

Dunnstral (4):

Ruby Red, Azurit, Performer, SIV36

Tchill13 (1):

UnaBombaH

profii (1):

MariaR

not voting (0):

with 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

its practically the last damn post of the day phase.

thats straight up negligence on my part if i was scum.

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yeah and im not sure why you believe if iwas scum why I would let profii go through with that if at all possible for me to do something about it.

If I was scum I would have no reason to believe he was a "weak" role which means I would have killed him and I'd be in this same predicament EXCEPT Maria would still be alive.

So imo Maria's death should cause a bit of hesitation for you of all people boon considering our history.

i mean i understand...

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its ok. i'd kill me every time. go after otter next.

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if a vig were to shoot profii then would i have gotten fruit at all had profii actually targeted me? if mafia were to kill profii then would i have gotten fruit at all if profii had actually targeted me?

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well i didn't get any. I'm just trying to think of a reasonable scenario. I never understood why weak roles even attempt an action n1 anyways.

I completely understand the suspicion im just asking for a little more thought due to the fact profii wasn't the only death.

I can't stress enough the fact he said he was committing his action 2 posts before the thread got locked. Scum have to go out of their way not to see that.

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I have a soft guilty on Tchill anyway, so lynch it if it hasn't been lynched

How many roles targeted me night one?... Sheesh...

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GG everybody. Good effort una lol.

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Hey I take that investigation as a compliment

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Yeah.