mini 2013: the chorus of i'll call b4 i cum mafia (all done)

[Ruby Red]

finally

VOTE: unabombah

[Ruby Red]

you may choose to use a string that will uniquely identify a player to me instead of the exact thing.

UnaBombaH - 1697065679
profii - 8871813186
Tchill13 - 784121683
Dunnstral - 6133218581
Azurit - 5742903693
yeasayer - 166597408
the worst - 7574812551
Performer - 3713972203
MariaR - 8873794069
LuckyOtter - 128474617
SIV36 - 7345934561
Ruby Red - 5688495079
Kokichi Oma - 9993312625

VOTE: 1697065679

[Ruby Red]

i've provided a list right there pretty plainly and clearly

not sure what's confusing about that tbh

[Ruby Red]

They think I suck

what

[Ruby Red]

- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.

Nothing has happened inside the game and nobody is town to me

And why don't you try to make anything happen?

The game just started, not sure what you want from me

wolfy

[Ruby Red]

VOTE: Tchill13 Let's see just how tchill you are.

I don't make anything out of the unabombah vote from ruby. They made a regular vote first and the number vote (clearly a joke) second, so I wouldn't take it as hiding a wagon vote.

Azurit, is your Dunnstral vote random?

humor check
logical check
questioning check

[Ruby Red]

after a great deal of consideration i've decided that i'll be treating luckyotter as town until proven otherwise. congratulations.

[Ruby Red]

VOTE: profii

Interaction between profii and azurit seemed a little contrived to me, but I won't go too hard on that. Random voting for being bad dog.

towny

[Ruby Red]

zzz can more people town/scumclaim

[Ruby Red]

VOTE: 6133218581

[Ruby Red]

VOTE: Tchill13 Let's see just how tchill you are.

I don't make anything out of the unabombah vote from ruby. They made a regular vote first and the number vote (clearly a joke) second, so I wouldn't take it as hiding a wagon vote.

Azurit, is your Dunnstral vote random?

humor check
logical check
questioning check

after a great deal of consideration i've decided that i'll be treating luckyotter as town until proven otherwise. congratulations.

doesn't seemm like a great dwal of consideration tbh.

are you accusing me of something?

that being said, you raise an interesting point. after even more consideration, i'm willing to reclassify to "town but possible deepwolf".

[Ruby Red]

Page 2 deepwolf

don't question me. if he's wolf he will be deepwolf.

wolfy post btw.

[Ruby Red]

maria was page 4 deepwolf.

[Ruby Red]

but is her role pm as red as her sparkle....

[Ruby Red]

prodge busy

hey dunnstral can you stop looking like scum and start being town

unironic request

[Ruby Red]

1 sec time to solve this game

[Ruby Red]

something weird is going on with me flying up to l-1 - I have no idea how that has even happened, so I'll be voting someone on my wagon I think.

wolfy??

[Ruby Red]

I was just thinking that if mafia were to start the game conversing with each other in the public thread, they might make a serious attempt at pointing the fingers at each other very early to dispel coinciding suspicion on both of them. The interaction kicking off with azurit and proffii (so early in RVS) seemed like it was geared by that possible motive.

this is probs town

[Ruby Red]

i'm pretty sure unab is actually a wolf

[Ruby Red]

VOTE: profii

Interaction between profii and azurit seemed a little contrived to me, but I won't go too hard on that. Random voting for being bad dog.

The heat on profii is interesting but I don't know what to make of it.

"Here is a thing that is happening that I'm a part of, and I shan't say any more about it."

Want to go ahead and make something out of the L-2 wagon that you're on?

--

Mod, has yeasayer confirmed?

I'm curious if they confirmed and are lurking, or legit absent.

meh actually this is a good point

townread on siv rescinded i guess

[Ruby Red]

And why don't you try to make anything happen?

i (no offense) really hate every single thing about this post. will circle back to it later but need to touch on something else first.

on first read and after looking strictly at their content (particularly the stuff just before koki's initial comment and vote, all of which i'm assuming must've contributed to an idea about his play that i don't fully understand), i don't really get the read kokichi had on profil either. @koki, enlighten me if you'd please. after continuing on, i get the feeling you were just sort of baiting him for a reaction but in case you weren't and this is entirely earnest, i'd like to see where you're coming from.

in the meantime, VOTE: Azurit. their initial posts came across as very noncommittal to me and seemed like somebody trying to present themselves as participating while doing the bare minimum, albeit very awkwardly.

you can be town for now

[Ruby Red]

I can explain my thoughts more accuratly, if anybody is intrested.

Don't know why you should feel the need to ask this for approval instead of just saying it

missing thread context from not reading is +rand wolf indicative

[Ruby Red]

wtf why does like half of this game look like scum

is this multiball

[Ruby Red]

wolf poe:
{UnaBombaH, Tchill13, Dunnstral, Performer, SIV36, Kokichi Oma}

VOTE: unabombah

[Ruby Red]

you don't need to read them, just look for the votes and then sheep them and that's good with me

[Ruby Red]

pretty interesting stuff with wagon comps going on. i dont have any reads in particular atm. pretty much just generally observing. Not the biggest fan of D1.

i think this is too wolfy to be wolf btw

[Ruby Red]

Reluctantly, I'm adding red ruby as well. Not as strong of a feeling though.

why

VOTE: Tchill13

This is not town Tchill, the way he's pushing people shows he has an agenda here

name one thing tchill has pushed

in a general since a lynch day 1 has the most likelihood of hitting town. I'd be willing to bet town usually talk themselves out of lynching scum more than they talk themselves into lynching scum day 1. I usually have no preference unless i feel comfortable with my ability to read certain players or unless somehow someone lands in my "will always be suspicious of" list day 1.

i will always call this mentality dumb whenever i see it

[Ruby Red]

wolf poe:
{UnaBombaH, Tchill13, Dunnstral, Performer, SIV36, Kokichi Oma}

VOTE: unabombah

im taking siv out of this and cant remember why azurit wasnt in it in the first place

[Ruby Red]

zzz una is probscum but vla

let's do this first

VOTE: dunnstral

[Ruby Red]

I think this is the worsts town game

And Kokis

you and Siv and luckyotter are probably my best reads at the moment.

I'm struggling to find scum - i initially thought someone on my wagon was probably scum. I could see it being 1 of una/worst/koki still but not with confidence.

I would guess there is scum in one of the low posters somewhere but it's hard to say where

Yawn. Can we lynch this yet?

btw ive caught wolves before who just do this, get a fake read with exaggerated strength and do nothing but push it

[Ruby Red]

That was when I added you to my town-lean list. The way you're trying to game-solve tripped off my town-slip sensor. However, my town-slip sensor is faulty, and produces false-positives. I was reluctant because I wouldn't be completely floored if you were scum, but I still would be surprised.

no i mean earlier you were like "isn't this just what scum ruby would look like"

so what changed your fears

[Ruby Red]

yeasayer

LOL forgot this person was in the game

[Ruby Red]

kokichi is town

[Ruby Red]

Ruby's reads aren't to be trusted at all lol.
There easy to manipulate. They can be obv town when needed

LOL

[Ruby Red]

Ruby's reads aren't to be trusted at all lol.
There easy to manipulate. They can be obv town when needed

LOL

btw i can't see the reason as town you'd be saying this after 2005

[Ruby Red]

1 sec

[Ruby Red]

yeah tchill can stay in wolf poe for now

[Ruby Red]

fuck i only have like 3 townreads

[Ruby Red]

@dunn and una if you're town start fucking doing something

[Ruby Red]

Ruby's reads aren't to be trusted at all lol.
There easy to manipulate. They can be obv town when needed

LOL

btw i can't see the reason as town you'd be saying this after 2005

guess I hit a nerve~

meh

i could be mean or arrogant here but i'm not going to. it's game relevant - it seems like you're discrediting me when i don't see why town!you has that thought.

[Ruby Red]

btw, soulreading yeasayer as town

[Ruby Red]

maria why have you barely talked about dunn

[Ruby Red]

does anybody disagree with this lynchpool:

{unabombah, profii, tchill, dunnstral, performer}

[Ruby Red]

why not azurit exactly? I think I agree just cbf rereading

hes town enough for me rn

he can be deepwolfing but that gets dealt with later imo

[Ruby Red]

1) Because ik your main and you're super easy to play around 2) I even tried it a little as you against scum and it worked

didn't work last time

when exactly was this? and if it's something that you can't mention, you're wrong. just straight up.

[Ruby Red]

hey maria whats your read record on dunn like

[Ruby Red]

kinda feel like Performer is too unaware to be scum like their reading comprehension is well thru the floor

he has meta im just too lazy to actually go through it and also its kind of old

[Ruby Red]

lmfao. there's literally no disagreement to be had. i'll quote it for you postgame.

[Ruby Red]

lmfao. there's literally no disagreement to be had. i'll quote it for you postgame.

You're saying you're not easy to manipulate I'm saying you are. If you wanna disagree with that so be it prove me wrong go ahead.

you have never fooled me in a game we've been in together.

[Ruby Red]

my point was that i wanted to burden of proficiency you on dunn.

[Ruby Red]

meh.

[Ruby Red]

nah, not going to be petty.

[Ruby Red]

Gun to head I'd call Dunn town if you want a read so badly
Pedit: It's ok to be a little petty~

maybe i should blacklist you for calling my reads bad, then?

[Ruby Red]

Gun to head I'd call Dunn town if you want a read so badly
Pedit: It's ok to be a little petty~

maybe i should blacklist you for calling my reads bad, then?

If you're really bothered by someone calling your reads bad you shouldn't be playing mafia. Your reads aren't trash tier but they're easy to sway and that's the issue. *shrug* Why was pref in your lynch pool

it was just a cheeky little reference. tbh kind of glad you didn't get it.

not worth being rude over it.

he hasn't towned to me yet.

[Ruby Red]

I really missed the big event where Koki became obvious town. Can someone(besides ruby)run this step-by-step for me?

whats wrong with me

[Ruby Red]

Ruby why don't we talk anymore. ): I miss being fakesons

sorry ducky. hard game.

[Ruby Red]

Hi MariaR

wolfiest pop-in of all time

@town vote this

[Ruby Red]

@RubyRed

Can I get a long explanation why you read theworst as town?

sure thing, spoilered for length:

Spoiler:

i looked into his soul. he's town.

[Ruby Red]

btw ducky i want your opinion on kokichi here

[Ruby Red]

oh wait no dunnstral is fucking definitely wolf

[Ruby Red]

@ruby outside of the below quote I actually think he's probs town here. I've mixed up his d1 play for lynchbait a couple of times but like. he feels way more unapologetic in pushing his agendas. also totally oblivious to his wagon which I think is a minor town tell

def agree

[Ruby Red]

wolves are lurking this game like they do every fucking game on this site.

i'm not going to let it happen. vote dunn or vote una. either works for me.

[Ruby Red]

^that's @town, not anyone in specific

[Ruby Red]

dunn is objectively wolfy this game. going after someone like azurit or (imo) performer is just looking for a deepwolf before the just wolfy players are dead.

that lynches town a majority of the time and then you're left in lylo with scumfucks that should've been lynched d1.

[Ruby Red]

if we lynch wolfy players and get townflips for a few days then comes time to reconsider, imo not before that.

[Ruby Red]

lol my reads are shit

dunn is town from claiming vt

[Ruby Red]

did performer claim?

[Ruby Red]

{Tchill13, Dunnstral, MariaR}

This team is pretty out there

If I go solely from my NAND-list, (not town-read anyone), the teams are:

Spoiler:

UnaBombaH, Azurit, LuckyOtter
UnaBombaH, Azurit, MariaR
UnaBombaH, yeasayer, the worst
UnaBombaH, yeasayer, MariaR
UnaBombaH, the worst, Kokichi Oma
UnaBombaH, the worst, MariaR
UnaBombaH, LuckyOtter, Kokichi Oma
profii, yeasayer, Ruby Red
profii, Performer, Ruby Red
profii, LuckyOtter, Ruby Red
Tchill13, Dunnstral, the worst
Tchill13, Dunnstral, MariaR
Tchill13, the worst, MariaR
Dunnstral, yeasayer, the worst
Dunnstral, yeasayer, MariaR
Dunnstral, the worst, Kokichi Oma
Dunnstral, the worst, MariaR
Azurit, LuckyOtter, Ruby Red
yeasayer, the worst, MariaR

Here is said NAND-list based on my perception of player interactions :

Spoiler:

Azurit,Dunnstral
Kokichi Oma,profii
the worst,profii
Dunnstral,Ruby Red
the worst,Performer
yeasayer,Azurit
LuckyOtter,Performer
LuckyOtter,Dunnstral
LuckyOtter,MariaR
Tchill13,profii
Kokichi Oma,Azurit
Ruby Red,Tchill13
Dunnstral,Ruby Red
Dunnstral,profii
Performer,UnaBombaH
Performer,MariaR
Kokichi Oma,Performer
profii,MariaR
Kokichi Oma,Tchill13
Azurit,profii
MariaR,Kokichi Oma
Ruby Red,Kokichi Oma
MariaR,Ruby Red
Ruby Red,UnaBombaH
the worst,Azurit
Tchill13,Azurit
Performer,Azurit
yeasayer,Performer
Performer,Tchill13
the worst,Ruby Red
Tchill13,UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH,profii
LuckyOtter,yeasayer
UnaBombaH,Dunnstral
Performer,Dunnstral
LuckyOtter,the worst
yeasayer,Tchill13
Kokichi Oma,yeasayer

Now, I'll probably keep my eye out for bussing and scum theaters.

sharing this is probs a bad idea btw

[Ruby Red]

hey boon

hammer performer right now y/n

[Ruby Red]

siv is town

[Ruby Red]

obliterate this

VOTE: tchill

ducky i have words for postgame

[Ruby Red]

yo ducky you have good reads this game

whos the last

[Ruby Red]

sorry, i didn't enunciate my words very clearly. what i meant to say was:

OBLITERATE THIS

VOTE: TCHILL

[Ruby Red]

not voting (10): UnaBombaH, Tchill13, Dunnstral, Azurit, Morality, the worst, LuckyOtter, SIV36, Ruby Red, Kokichi Oma

tchill flips wolf

imo dunn, ducky, otter, siv, kokichi still v

leaves una, azurit (deep), morality? (haven't read anything hes posted)

[Ruby Red]

last is una maybe?

[Ruby Red]

eh fuck it i look like the last scum anyways, heres my contribution to this game:

i hardclaim tracker, tracked tchill to mariar last night

[Ruby Red]

tracked una there was no visit but i dont think its that meaningful

hey ducky and morality its 2005 all over again, scum dead end of day 1, tracker guilty d2, thinking una might be the lsat day three

let's find the last wolf today and complete the similarities

[Ruby Red]

luckyotter and siv imo are still probtown

tbh i have read very fucking little of thi s game

[Ruby Red]

hey idiots, slow the fuck down

ive been sick

[Ruby Red]

morality and ducky especially whtat the fuck you doing

[Ruby Red]

god

[Ruby Red]

1 lynching me is fucking idiotic because i either produce a conftown a day or scum kill me tonight. theres no alternative if scum had a ninja they would hsave fucking killed last night. this is exactly like mini 2005. ducky and morality should fucking know this.
2 thoes conftowns will be coming from everyones lynchpool. if scum decides to no kill town ev goes up to fucking like 2000%. if they start killing the people i target then theyre basically acting as a seocnd lynch for us. don't be an idiot.
3 siv is obvtown
4 otter is p obvtown imo? like maybe could be wrong and getting hard deepwolfed but i doubt it
5 morality you said koki was mechanically confotnw, why

[Ruby Red]

Don't lynch Ruby today

hey dunn you know i really like it when youre a voice of reason but why is it so often that your voice of reason is so quiet

[Ruby Red]

anyways, hot take: kokichis game long push on siv is fake

[Ruby Red]

Okay, what are all the possible reasons scum submitted a no-kill?

It’s either ScumRuby hoped a doctor would protect the claimed Tracker and they’d come across as conftown, or they were afraid of said TownRuby Tracker shot.

Both reasons go back to Ruby.

Actually, there’s going to be WIFOM on the Ruby slot no matter what happens from this day forward. Scum can easily coast from there, and the conftown they give us cant even be hard trusted in the fashion that it doesn’t clear Ruby. It clears whoever they pick, but it doesn’t clear Ruby. Ever. Ruby is 100% not able to be cleared.

Actually, there’s going to be WIFOM on the Ruby slot no matter what happens from this day forward. Scum can easily coast from there, and the conftown they give us cant even be hard trusted in the fashion that it doesn’t clear Ruby. It clears whoever they pick, but it doesn’t clear Ruby. Ever. Ruby is 100% not able to be cleared.

Scum either no kills every night or gives away clears from rubies investigations, we don't have to lynch ruby until final 3/4/even 5

I disagree. ScumRuby coasts off this and never gets confirmed.

All that happens is ScumRuby will be confirming townies that they don’t think will be lynched.

Sure, it sucks to flip the last potential PR, but if it was a gambit, there’s zero chance of ever proving it.

We allow Ruby to live because if there is a kill, and they track someone, no matter what, Ruby is confirming them as town.

Ruby does NOT make it to lylo. I repeat, Ruby does NOT make it to lylo.

If you are in some sort of 1v1 with Ruby before lylo, you lynch there. No chancing it. You go Ruby before lylo.

ScumRuby can clear townies too. TownRuby with a guilty in the next few days before lylo is grand, but anything else is coming from ScumRuby.

Do not chance the guilty on the last day. No bringing Ruby to lylo.

I have hard coasted on a day 1 tracker claim as scum and won the game as solo scum before. This is very similar.

Actually, there’s going to be WIFOM on the Ruby slot no matter what happens from this day forward. Scum can easily coast from there, and the conftown they give us cant even be hard trusted in the fashion that it doesn’t clear Ruby. It clears whoever they pick, but it doesn’t clear Ruby. Ever. Ruby is 100% not able to be cleared.

Scum either no kills every night or gives away clears from rubies investigations, we don't have to lynch ruby until final 3/4/even 5

Day BEFORE lylo/mylo. So 5 people left is when you lynch Ruby.

We understood?

If ruby is alive at that time, when the day starts with 6 people or 5 people, Ruby is 100% the lynch, no questions about it.

Designated path for lynches should be Otter—>Azurit—>Ruby—>SIV.

Scum should lose with that path.

chill the fuck out

[Ruby Red]

mod notes

ruby's back

[Ruby Red]

lol ok, I love rereading ISOs and having crazy breakthroughs but... last mafia is indeed probably LO.
strongly suspect they're an encryptor actually, either way probability of a ninja encryptor seems really low

imo it's kokichi but yeah if you believe this i trust you, you've had good reads this game

[Ruby Red]

azurit didnt visit anyone

[Ruby Red]

so huh

im p sure there isnt a scum ninja given the no-kill earlier

so azurit is clear. i still think the ducky is town but i guess i should put more effort into that, still think dunn is town too

so imo its between una and morality

[Ruby Red]

I'm a night 3 vig and shot siv

bad shot

[Ruby Red]

I'm a night 3 vig and shot siv

bad shot

Who should I have shot?

una imo

[Ruby Red]

@mod do you have rules for ties / continuous no killing

mora visited noobdy obvs

[Ruby Red]

i guess ill track unab again

[Ruby Red]

uhh my bad i think?

although i thought una was scum. probably shouldn't have tried to be cute with saying id track someone and actually tracking someone else

gj town