Mini Normal 2015 - Lab Rat Mafia - Finished

[UnrealSeal]

Damn, did not expect this to start up so quickly. Anyways, hey all.

Golden Robster and Espeonage good posts, Ircher's latest "You're scum for secret RVS reasons" is most likely a reaction test and I'm going to VOTE: joral because I don't see any other good reasons to vote anything else

[UnrealSeal]

Woo boy, this thread progressed 4 pages without me. Glad to know the game is active but jesus is this gonna be a read.

I'll read through this thread in the morning and try to find some people to scream angrily at over the Internet

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Alright, I've read through some stuff.

I agree with Espeonage vote since they seem to be more focused on trying to find "scum" (as in, trying to find reasons why someone is scummy) instead of townhunting, but I'm kinda nervous to put him at L-2 so early in the game, I'd like to see at least a couple more people on the spot before it comes to that, since I find L-2 can quickly become volatile.

I think Bryon and Hopkirk are pretty towny, both seem to be providing good analysis. Khan's a bit condescending but he's probably just asshole!town, seems like he's just trying to provoke reactions with aggression.

[UnrealSeal]

Can you elaborate on your Bryon read?

He seems to want to keep town together, as evidenced by the fact that he's oppossing Khan's more condescending posts, although that could be me reading too much into something that's NAI, but furthermore I thought his 144 was pretty good and his 122 looked to move things along.

@TommyEgan, I can see how my 168 looks scummy combined with my 69. I didn't get a chance to explain why I thought Espe and Golden had good posts due to IRL factors that limited my time. Also 4 pages was a lot at the time because I was wrapping up academic stuff. Now that it's over, I can dedicate myself to this game more.

I agreed with Espeonage's first post because Penguin did seem somewhat adamant about only those two wagons. Shallow, I know, but keep in mind I only said it was a good post, not that I was shouting "confirmed town" or anything. Golden Robster's post gave good analysis and although in the end it didn't really move RVS along all too much, it does at least show he's looking for scum motives.

I'd also like to rebuke at you that if I'm sus for blindly agreeing with Espeonage why do you also not have sus on PP for also blindly agreeing with Espe?

Why do you want to force only two wagons?

Great first post btw.

He said nothing more than this for a while. (this is not to say I scumlean PP or anything, simply a question for Tommy)

[UnrealSeal]

@TommyEgan Ignore this question I guess

I'd also like to rebuke at you that if I'm sus for blindly agreeing with Espeonage why do you also not have sus on PP for also blindly agreeing with Espe?

Why do you want to force only two wagons?

Great first post btw.

He said nothing more than this for a while. (this is not to say I scumlean PP or anything, simply a question for Tommy)

Also, Penguin please keep in mind that sarcasm doesn't translate well over the Internet, and especially in a psychological game like Mafia.

[UnrealSeal]

oh I guess I used the wrong tags for that.

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Thanks, I forgot to put the =

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But anyway that is the most obvious sarcasm from PP in that post and if you can't notice that then I won't be able to explain it to you.

listen man I'm dumb as fuck, it's why I don't talk much IRL kek

also yeah how the fuck did performer think that was L-1 when we got a VC in 175, he votes creature in 177 and then goes directly back to espeonage, all within in the span of about 20 minutes.

nobody gets confused that easily, but I can't really think of any scum-motivations for it, so it just kinda baffles me.

also ircher, gonna look through your ISO, the wording you used really irks me.

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I figured out why it irked me and it's pretty much NAI, so continue.

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@Tommy and Seal, thoughts on each other?

Eh, Tommy's most likely town, can't see any scum motivations for attacking me specifically, especially with the Espe wagon getting so big

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So first of all, shouldn't Joral be replaced or at least prodded? I thought prod timer was 48 hours with a 24 hour grace period. Dude hasn't posted since Monday.

Secondly, I looked through Joral's ISO again and while I can agree with Byron's analysis that he was acting very defensively before he suddenly went radio silent, I have no idea where Creature's claim of "It feels like he's just doing what we ask" comes from, so I'd like to ask Creature if he can point to stuff indicative of this.

[UnrealSeal]

Hey N_M that's a nice

Guilty

result you gave me there my boy. Why don't you give me a claim.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[UnrealSeal]

If your a VT how did you visit Kublai Khan last night.

Hi, I'm a

Mason Tracker

[UnrealSeal]

Second question, why now are you suddenly posting willy-nilly

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I've read some of N_M's games in the past, I didn't expect him to give any reads even if he was town.

And yeah I probably should've just claimed vanilla tracker but whatever, a scum lynch is a scum lynch.

[UnrealSeal]

Yes, I am in fact conftown to one person, I won't out him since he's screaming at me enough as is but I'll leave this here in case he starts getting wagoned for some stupid reason

_ _ _ n _ _ _ b _ _ _ _ _ _ l _ _ _ _ _ e _ _ r _ _ e _ _ _ _ _ n _ , _ _ _ s _ _ _

Also, N_M, reading through your past games, I've noticed that you generally spot one person out and yell "X is scum". There was none of that this game so this is why I tracked you.

[UnrealSeal]

Ah, the Espeonage defense.

can you just tell me who your scumbuddy is already?

[UnrealSeal]

yet you still quickhammered ByronVilla despite not having time to catch up.

That's another thing, you quickhammered Byron and then Kublai called you out for it. Kublai died.

I know it'll probably be fake as hell (or knowing you will simply have UnrealSeal=Scum as the only words) but if you're really hankering to prove your VT, why don't you give us some reads.

[UnrealSeal]

why don't you give us some reads

[UnrealSeal]

well then read and then tell me who your scum partner is.

I'm ignoring your posts until you do

[UnrealSeal]

obviously don't actually tell me who your scum buddy is but you get the point

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It is in fact, not a gambit. I tracked Not_Mafia to Kublai Khan last night.

[UnrealSeal]

PenguinPower is my personal guess. His first vote was on N_M, only person besides Hopkirk he interacted with on D1, and PP doesn't have the best ISO, as he wasn't on the Byron wagon and gave very little actual analysis on D1

[UnrealSeal]

2 responses with exactly zero actual argument against me in about 2 minutes flat. Another one in about 4 minutes.

I dunno man, that seems kind of defensive

[UnrealSeal]

more content would've been less defensive, it would've made it seem like a less knee-jerk reaction to being called scummy.

[UnrealSeal]

why don't you give us some reads.

Never had mason tracker in a game before but seems super strong; UnrealSeal, am confused, why didn't you just ask for his reads before his claim?

One part over-excitement and another part the fact that he's N_M. He doesn't give reads even when he's town lol. At this point I had nothing though, so I thought I might as well try.

And yes, having the other Mason confirm would be terrible. I already left that Mason code, he can confirm himself when he needs to, but having him claim right now would just give scum the advantage since we don't know scum roles. It would also mean that any actual town protectives (if there is one) would have to decide between saving two people instead of just me.

[UnrealSeal]

@Hopkirk yeah sure scum can fake the mason code if they're stupid as fuck. If they faked it my partner would just counterclaim and even if you somehow end up lynching my partner the guy who fakes the code will just by lynched the next day.

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UNVOTE:

As JJD said, Tommy and ProjectMatt haven't posted and there's a strong chance N_M will quickhammer himself. Unless people think that we have all the info we can get right now, we should hold off until we find N_M's scum-partner

[UnrealSeal]

Creature also hasn't posted beyond his initial reaction.

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@Creature

your thoughts on last scum.

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Oh hey we won

GG town.

Oh yeah Performer sorry for the shot, that was me who told GR to shoot you.