Mini Normal 2024 - Endgame

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Oh finally noticed me

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lol almost completely forgot I replaced into this game

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I don't have the energy to do the super catchup rn though.

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Would you mind if I postponed my catch up for tomorrow?

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I could do it rn, but I gotta go sleep earlier than I usually do.

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Okay, time to do stuff

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Wish me good luck

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VOTE: Rei

I'm more of a Misato guy.

Town

Oh wait...

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14, 15 and 16 feel all town

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didn't really like page 1

thought I would get more town feelings there

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Page 2

Just some townfeeling on Alchemist

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townleaning alchemist

for the record Nauci has done this to me as tvt before

But that is a little misreppy, nauci - Notice that *my* vote is for pressure and reactions. *Her* vote is apparently because I'm scummy for not providing reasons. If that scumread expires (not super sure why it's there in the first place), I would think it would make more sense to move on, either to another scumread or to create pressure and generate discussion. Instead, she sits on me. Do her actions make sense to you?

Also nauci am I really your scummiest read in this gamestate?

oh also townleaning ejjinami

Irrelephant can be town for this

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Page 5

Tchill finally obvtowns it up

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Mumble feels town too

while I thought I was meant to be townreading Nauci by now.

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nsg is playing

good

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Ugh, this is feeling boring

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BBT - ejjinami's case on him isn't bad, and in addition he's been tunnelling Tchill from the very beginning of the game, despite camouflaging it with reading other people. Somewhat scum, could also be lyncher.

lol though

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I refuse to lunch Twain today because that Lalendra meme was too good ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

This and Nauci's avatar make me feel Nauci is just some kind of player that looks scummy but will more likely flip town.

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Btw, sorry I'm not that much of a memer (or am I?)

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Not feeling good about BBT though

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Nauci (5) - Kop, Alchemist21, Mumble, BlueBloodedToffee, Lalendra

lol this wagon

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Page 15 notes

Don't play New Star Soccer

that game makes you waste your time and then when you feel like you're done with it you suddenly feel depressive thus get feelings your reads are all off

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Calling a bunch of players town rn but I'm ready to rescind any townread.

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also not liking DrDolittle

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What if Tchill’s just scum and all of Mumble, Nauci, and Kop are Town?

VOTE: Tchill

What if tchills just town and all three of those are scum?

I have as much basis for my statement as you do. None.

Scumslip? If you knew your role PM was green you'd have at least SOME basis for that statement. Also really not feeling that progression on Kop, or the hard press on the lurkers.

VOTE: Tchill

Huh what?

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guess I reached an interesting part.

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Oh right, yeah, Kop's pure fluff from what I'm seeing.

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Not sure if scumslip but I love this post all the same

Again:

Huh what?

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ejjinami
BBT
Alchemist
Rei
Nauci
Mumble
Twain -- this is null
nsg
DDL
Kop
Lalendra
tchill

Too many scum

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Oh I'll miss nsg posting

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In nearly every game I played on this site, there was that one guy who kept saying that interaction reads are bad. And there hasn’t been a single game where anyone would have bothered to sensibly explain WHY.

Preflip associations are terrible, yeah.

Also scum are often trying to tie themselves to town while distancing from scum, and it doesn't work just like 'buddy town-bus scum".

Post-flip associations aren't bad, but not really reliable.

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Should I reconsider my Rei townread (if I ever expressed it anyway)?

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preferably what you think of kop, nsg and lalendra

Do you scumread Lalendra?

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ejjinami
BBT
Alchemist
Rei
Nauci
Mumble
Twain -- this is null
nsg
DDL
Kop
Lalendra
tchill

Too many scum

??? You expect me to have it narrowed down to 3? Lol

Maybe ordering all players town to scum is just not that good idea.

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Could do like me:

Grab the playerlist:
1) Creature
2) BlueBloodedToffee
3) Mumble
4) Alchemist21
5) Nauci
6) ejjinami
7) northsidegal
8) Lalendra
9) Tchill13
10) Kop
11) DrDolittle
12) Rei
13) Irrelephant11

Strike out townreads:

1) Creature

2) BlueBloodedToffee

3) Mumble

4) Alchemist21
5) Nauci

6) ejjinami

7) northsidegal
8) Lalendra

9) Tchill13

10) Kop
11) DrDolittle
12) Rei

13) Irrelephant11

though, not any townread, but rather something that when you look into the striked out names you think "yeah, rn I doubt scum are hiding among these names"

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I'm probably doing it wrong.

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preferably what you think of kop, nsg and lalendra

Do you scumread Lalendra?

I dont like her read on tchill, feels forced
so to an extent I do

so she's probtown lol

[Creature]

1) Creature TWAIN *
2) BlueBloodedToffee *
3) Mumble *
4) Alchemist21
5) Nauci *
6) ejjinami **
7) northsidegal **
8) Lalendra *
9) Tchill13
10) Kop **
11) DrDolittle
12) Rei **
13) Irrelephant11

Wow, just noticed so many prods

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wtf is this day?

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preferably what you think of kop, nsg and lalendra

Do you scumread Lalendra?

I dont like her read on tchill, feels forced
so to an extent I do

so she's probtown lol

Interesting
do you think I'm scum?

Nah, it's not because I think you're scum pushing a mislynch on her.

It's more that I feel players scumreading Lalendra is a towntell for her.

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I'm feeling like I should throw all my townreads off the window rn though

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Irrelephant, why should I townread you?

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I could get behind creature.

What do you mean here?

That you're for or against me?

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Did I accidentally replace into a geriatric game?

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I'd feel bad about lying.

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So got anything interesting?

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I townread her because of her activity in page 8

then I feel her disappearance is just NAI.

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Some town with like one scum like any town (and even scum) wagon.

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The question is: who hasn't moved out of Nauci yet?

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Give her time then.

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I don't think someone scumreads me for taking like one day to start posting stuff.

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Don't forget guys that DDL is prob scum.

Kop/DDL are scum. Unsure on the last one.

Oh right, we agree on two scum.

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I think kop is putting in effort.

Even though his reads are super weird and I don't agree with them I could see them coming from a "tryhard" town so to speak.

How are my reads super weird considering I don't think I've given any reads?

Before a Kop lynch goes through is there any chance this is town?

Yes, a fair chance. Kop's sorta weird to read.

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Irrelephant, why should I townread you?

Because I’m town

Why ask me this?

@creature let me rephrase

Why ask ME this?

because I felt like.

You were there and wanted to see how you would react.

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I'm more on Kop because him fluffing yeah.

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but also ddl. My only STRONG TR.

???

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VOTE: Kop

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How long do we have?

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No one's gonna attack me?

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lol I just voted Kop and let it go

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Oh wow, never heard of the word "prolific"

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producing much fruit or foliage or many offspring.

present in large numbers or quantities; plentiful.

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Asking who?

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also don't think scum!BBT makes that kill

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also don't think scum!BBT makes that kill

Why not?

It's like just taking the top poster besides Tchill.

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Not liking Scioness so far.

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still, that kill feels so amateur

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who do you think killed then?

idk

Scumteam is prob composed of players not willing to take risks?

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Looks like I'm going to have to effort this game seems

Yep, this comment made me tempted to just vote you.

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Though, I don't feel like parking on a single wagon this entire day.

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northsidegal (1) - Nauci

Nauci, what is this?

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VOTE: Scioness Sajj

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Irrelephant11 (2) - DrDolittle, Alchemist21

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probably because of something not nice

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Not satisfied with Scioness' content.

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Not satisfied with Scioness' content.

not satisfied with your content.

Nice attempt here

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Lalendra (1) - Nauci

geez Nauci's votes are weird

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Shouldn't have received a prod btw.

Haha

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Oh hi, any way this game isn't going to end catastrophically?

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Just let me check to see if I'm not posting in a game thread I'm not in.

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Oh nvm, I'm not.

So which scum ever kills Irrelephant?

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Can someone pull a scumcase on me?

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RIP Tchill

Our activity source went too fast.

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I hope they will

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He is?

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My reads really need to be updated, but I can give my old reads.

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DrD scum
Nauci town with horrible votes
Sajj meh
Mumble town

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I need to first update my reads.

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but I need some time I'm feeling it.

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but I need some time I'm feeling it.

Toranaga replaces northsidegal

like now

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I still think scum!BBT doesn't make that kill.

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Yey Nauci can still be town

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BBT
HWS
Nauci
me

+2

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VOTE: Rei

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just noticed it wasn't HWS that replaced Tchill, it was Krazy.

Still will keep both on the list.

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just noticed it wasn't HWS that replaced Tchill, it was Krazy.

Still will keep both on the list.

that's a list of town yes?

Yep

unless you think I'd include myself in my scumlist

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My hand smells milk :/

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My scumreads rn are Rei and Alch.

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Creature, where did DDL go from your scum reads?

probably going back to my scumreads along Rei and Alch.

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I have like your same thoughts except I used euphemisms.

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VOTE: DrDolittle

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not gonna wait someone become obvscum to vote them

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Oh nvm, I'm not.

So which scum ever kills Irrelephant?

do you have thoughts on this or are you asking a question?

My only thought is that I don't think BBT makes that kill.

You're free to give your own answer.

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My scumreads rn are Rei and Alch.

rei - yes, alch - why?

idk, I've only seen Alch trying to pocket me.

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You mean this?

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Oh I love being the special case

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panthaleon and DDL probably not together.

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BlueBloodedToffee - Mentioned that this feel kinda like the scum on the wagon. Wild guess he was also the scum on Nauci's wagon.

and you scumread Nauci for?

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Mumble - Mumble is...fine? Like, some of our reads line up, which isn't 100% reassuring, but is at least a place to start with the null-leaning-town.

*puts HWS null*

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Vote Toaranaga

How exactly does one do 33 posts with 0 votes?

Guess I've done more.

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More worried about the possibility of me dying during the night.

That Irrelephant kill feels so generic

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Tchill's replacer is town
Toranaga too
Nauci probtown
ejjinami a little lower but still town
panthaleon's my newest townread

(it's not in order)

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Assuming I got it all right:

gg

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Mumble feels more like, but I gotta recheck.

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I'm a little disappointed that BBT turned out to be town

lol you

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Hopefully we can bring the game back to odd.

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Hey, let's be frank. I haven't read the game yet.
I didn't have time and right now I'm just too tired to force myself to do shit. Just don't quickhammer and I'll be able to catch up.
Lol, normally I'd lurk until I catch up at least a bit, buuuuut

I'm a gunsmith and I got a

red check

.

I'LL SAY WHO MY CHECK IS AROUND 10 DAYS FROM NOW ON.

You know the deal. Just

don't guickhammer

and I'll be able to catch up later.


My

n1 check

was

lalendra (sci)

and I crumbed it here

GUN TO MY HEAD, Sci is town.
Her lack of motivation and uncaring attitude when people are reacting to her posts badly feels more like coming from tired/demotivated town, than scum.
She just replaced in, so if scum, defending herself now would be her first time to do her job.
And if town, considering that she had to read the thread and get some reads, she would have been doing her job for quite some time now.
Getting reads is generally easier for scum than town imo, so I don’t think her acting demotivated is scum motivated. NAI at worst.
That’s not a strong read, so I def won’t be keeping that read for long, but she’s ok to me rn.

well, GLHF, I'm out. I'll come back when I'm a little less tired

felt the compulsory need to post this somewhere:

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wait what

that's exiciting

I'm more happy that I won't need to sort you.

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I think a 4-player scum team

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Damn, my computer's super slow

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Most precisely my internet actually

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need help

would 4 people scum team be too much for 13p game?

Unless they're all goons and we're all PR, then yeah?

3 v 10 still means a few TPR already I think

With a vig that could get to lylo so fast unless it's a 1s vig

Why?

What garbage setup speccing is all this?

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First action in the game is hard buddying up to Creature. I don't really know if this is done to implicate him or if this is indicative of the two of them being related.

Scum do love reading me.

My alignment is like pretty obvious for everyone and being the first to claim a townread on me is somewhat a good source of towncred.

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NSG did same kinda thing to Creature that Tora did btw

Townread easy-to-read Creature first for towncred

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place your bets

Nauci + Alch

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and please, withhold it for fun

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now that I think of it, it might actually be a good idea

it's not like we're anywhere near LyLo, so we can spare a scum lynch to get more interactions imo.
What do you think about NOT lynching my check today?

Normal scum-hunting should be a priority anyways, becuase I'm not sure if I'll be able to provide any more checks from now on (RB-er / kill / etc)

Don't get cocky, we only got one of them.

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im pretty ready to do nothing except sheep ejj today

I wouldn't recommend that.

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Creature you do realize the quote where I mentioned the four player scum team was me responding to another player and explaining it was extremely unlikely, right?

Just pretend I quoted Scioness.

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Hey creature why is Nauci scum now?

I'm tempted to sheep your feelings

also PoE

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lol we're so cocky when we're like one mislynch away from MyLo with two scum left.

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with Alch it's 3

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lol we're so cocky when we're like one mislynch away from MyLo with two scum left.

1 of them is confirmed and we need info

you seem to agree that people shouldn't blindly follow my check, so why are you against it?

Scum can't both go antispew, so let's torment them.

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panthaleon, who are you?

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Of course I am interested to know who you checked. I thought it was Creature. You seemed cautious of him on a quick iso read. But I do/did townread him. How are you so sure this person is scum? I thought you targeted creat because you were unsure of him. How sure are you that you're not tunneling by accident? I just want to be sure. I fully believe your claim but it doesn't make you infallible.

Wait, you discredit the check just because you thought I was the check?

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The lack of a vig kill N1 could mean some scum ability involved.

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still, vig + gunsmith v goons still feel somewhat scumsided

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you get lynched for not wanting to lynch my check.

"I don't want to lynch my check today, but I want to lynch anyone who doesn't want to lynch my check"

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HWS discrediting the check just because he thinks the check is me is so bad I somehow want to townread it.

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I don't believe in a fake positive at this point.

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I'm now sorta agreeing on lynching not necessarily the guilty.

though, if I happen to wagon the check, most likely I'll go with it.

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I have Alch, Nauci and panth as the PoE.

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rei's ISO is scummy

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Toranaga's ISO feels worthless.

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Time to go Krazy

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What happened to your DDL suspicions, friend?

They died.

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He obviously knew I'm town, so he didn't bother to look at the crumb

I didn't either.

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1249 and 1337 come from different days

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1399 to 1401:

1399 maybe this is interesting

Let me check for more on Tor's ISO

1401 nvm this is pointless

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also I've listed you on the PoE because I don't know your scumplay and could get paranoid.

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He obviously knew I'm town, so he didn't bother to look at the crumb

I didn't either.

What is your read on HWS

Town

but obviously it's like one of those reads I'm likely to get outtalked from.

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Oh, it was that post that made me townread DDL.

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ugh this game goes into mylo really fast

because vig

and we wasted the two first lynches on two players we can't read.

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still, I'll miss having games with a lot of weak town PRs where we gotta sort which claim is bullshit.

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I think we lynch Alch today and hope the check is elsewhere

or we can do Nauci too.

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ugh this game goes into mylo really fast

because vig

and we wasted the two first lynches on two players we can't read.

yeah but if krazy picked wrong we would be in mylo today

maybe it feels this way because i repped in

I mean vig usually fastforwards the game.

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Creature, do you have any thoughts on why you have got special treatment?

Players tend to clear me by postcount.

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For defs. I just would like Creature to claim first.

Ascetic Townie

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still, I forgot I was ascetic till the moment I re-checked my role PM which was like about now.

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Who's next to claim?

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likely HWS will just lolcat the rest of the day.

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Obviously town will have negative utility roles.

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I find DDL's claim the most unbelievable.

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Is HWS claiming not using action N2?

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Oh right, I had forgot Alch was copped town.

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Creature - Ascetic
HeWhoSwims - Neapolitan
Alchemist21 - Peeked VT
Nauci - VT claim
ejjinami - Gunsmith
Scioness Sajj - No gun VT
DrDolittle - JOAT whatever
panthaleon - Neighborizer

Lynch Neapolitan

if he flips scum we can clear Alch

DDL docs ejji

ejji probably gunsmiths Nauci

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Lynch Neapolitan

I mean HWS

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^Normal guidelines say a player can’t act and kill on the same Night.

unless mod announces they can.

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So last scum can't roleblock and kill.

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Creature - Ascetic
HeWhoSwims - Neapolitan
Alchemist21 - Peeked VT
Nauci - VT claim
ejjinami - Gunsmith
Scioness Sajj - No gun VT
DrDolittle - JOAT whatever
panthaleon - Neighborizer

Lynch Neapolitan

if he flips scum we can clear Alch

DDL docs ejji

ejji probably gunsmiths Nauci

Lynch HWS
DDL docs ejji
ejji gunsmiths Nauci

Is this fair?

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You can probably neighborize anyone (but me obviously).

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tbh I think scum are all among the investigative claimers {DDL, ejji, HWS}

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and rn I find it unlikely for HWS to be town

he like gave up

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Yeah, the fakeclaim is horrible for scum

but sometimes scum do horrible fakeclaims

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even if hws is scum, say you are bussing your partner to shit, clear a town tomorrow, and ride your conftown mobile straight to a scum win

Say HWS flips scum, I kill one clear (presumably Alch), I mislynch you then I kill the gunsmith:

Creature - Ascetic
Nauci - Cleared through gunsmith
Scioness Sajj - Cleared through gunsmith
panthaleon - Neighborizer

I would either need to push panthaleon being scum (somehow informed) neighborizer or last scum being doctor.

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I guess he gave up

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Do we have a plan incase HWS flips town (even though I find it unlikely)?

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Okay...

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so if HWS is town we go anarchy?

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what about tonight?

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though, I guess ejji and DDL still do the same I've told them.

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Can we end the night earlier?

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I attempted to neighborize him last night

lol you

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DDL

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Still, what really happened with night one vig?

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This setup is becoming too crazy for my liking.

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rn we have like two unlucky PRs alive.

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Did anyone leave crumbs?

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I think DDL's and Nauci's roles are incompatible to be both in this setup.

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also I think Nauci can confirm himself if he jails ejji and ejji claims no result.

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or if we're afraid of a possible roleblocker scenario, we can also have Nauci jail panthaleon.

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idk, ascetic townie is like an ideal negative utility to counter the ammount of town PR this game.

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If we can confirm she's jailkeeper then yes she's cleared.

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Nauci and Scion can't be scum roleblocker, neither can panthaleon.

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(Full?) Gunsmith
Loyal Jailkeeper
Full Vigilante
Ascetic Townie (as some negative utility)

v

One possible scum PR

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still don't know where to put DDL and/or panthaleon.

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Ejj - Nauci confirms me town when Scioness doesn't get in my neighborhood

can't you just choose to not neighborize anyone?

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I'll prob be alright if you neighborize someone and rn I townread you.

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Ugh this game better end with DDL lynch.

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VOTE: DDL